I always have one guy who is bored with trolling so I put on a free slider attached to a separate pole and have him work the slider up and down triggering strikes . He’ always surprised when he hooks up!
I always put a small clear plastic bead right above the swivel on the rigger rod to prevent the swivels from coming together and possibly prying one open.
Years ago while using Cannon DR's with the two rear mounted rod holders, I was stacking with 2 separate rods on each rigger. Had 4 guys in my 21' boat and wanted 12 rods in use. This worked well all day until all of a sudden the most horrific noise of cracking, breaking followed by a splash. The rod holders built into the rear of the plastic Cannon riggers broke off the body of the rigger! and both rods went into the water. I spun the boat around quickly, ran back and dropped the rigger ball to within 5' from bottom and ran over where I thought the lines were. I snagged both rods by reeling up the rigger and retrieved all my gear. Had an absolute career ending tangle....but I got them back. Ever since that, I don't put that amount of strain on those cannon riggers and I now Use the set depth, snap release method. Great informational video.
I've been stacking two rods on Cannon DR'S for sometime with no issues. I like your method though getting more bait in the water and keeping rod counts legal ! Thanks for sharing your techniques!
Lloyde Duncan that is a good point. With a stacked rod you can also leave a spoon in the water while you fight a fish on the other rod. There’s a couple benefits to stacking. 👍🏻
My grandfather loves stack lines, he likes to run duplicate spoons 5 ft apart to replicate fish splitting from a school. To me it has it's time and place.(mostly when fishing the harbor, where I can't run long lines do to boat traffic)
Seems like if you get hit on the slider it will slide down to the bottom spoon when reeling in a fighting fish and tangling with the bottom spoon hook fraying line and breaking fish off. And issues with this?
Curious on the dw fixed slider with the rubberized coating. I can only imagine that rubber coating getting burned through the mainline when a 20 lb king is pulling on the slider line. Seems like itd be very hard on ur mainline and ruin the rubber on that swivel.
When your bringing you ball up stop at 15'. Reel up the slack. Then continue bringing ball up till just under the surface. Remove your stacker and then pop your line out of rigger release. This avoids twist. (I always run fixed sliders with rubber band method).
One other thing I’ve seen that causes tangles is the hooks get caught on the line when the bait is put into the water. If you don’t catch it and fish for a while it will absolutely twist up your line. Make sure it’s swimming correctly once you put it in the water. Chris
So I guess you really can’t use a free slider on an SWR rig as it wouldn’t slide over the lead core section very well, may even hurt the lead core section?
Christopher Rauscher if you’re clipping the DR ball to the backing and not the lead core you’d probably be ok. The snap sliding down the core when a fish hit would have minimal friction.
I always have one guy who is bored with trolling so I put on a free slider attached to a separate pole and have him work the slider up and down triggering strikes . He’ always surprised when he hooks up!
You know, I was just trying to remember how I use to run fixed sliders and boom you post this. Thanks for the refresher course.
I always put a small clear plastic bead right above the swivel on the rigger rod to prevent the swivels from coming together and possibly prying one open.
Jim, Nice job on the video. Thank you for the work you guys put into these.
Years ago while using Cannon DR's with the two rear mounted rod holders, I was stacking with 2 separate rods on each rigger. Had 4 guys in my 21' boat and wanted 12 rods in use. This worked well all day until all of a sudden the most horrific noise of cracking, breaking followed by a splash. The rod holders built into the rear of the plastic Cannon riggers broke off the body of the rigger! and both rods went into the water. I spun the boat around quickly, ran back and dropped the rigger ball to within 5' from bottom and ran over where I thought the lines were. I snagged both rods by reeling up the rigger and retrieved all my gear. Had an absolute career ending tangle....but I got them back. Ever since that, I don't put that amount of strain on those cannon riggers and I now Use the set depth, snap release method. Great informational video.
Nice work getting your stuff back! I feel your pain knowing the mess it caused.
Thanks, Jim! At least I assume, according to Chris, that you should get the credit!!! Great job showing and explaining how to set it up!👍👍
Jim gets the credit on this one. He's the slider master.
Chris
Thank you telling us last Sunday that Jim had done the video. Thank you to both of you for putting in the effort!!👍👍
Excellent how too some methods and equipment I did not know about👌🏻🎣🐟
Very good tips.
Thanks for showing us.
I've been stacking two rods on Cannon DR'S for sometime with no issues. I like your method though getting more bait in the water and keeping rod counts legal ! Thanks for sharing your techniques!
I do still stack it allows you to run your high line a lot further back away from the boat
Lloyde Duncan that is a good point. With a stacked rod you can also leave a spoon in the water while you fight a fish on the other rod. There’s a couple benefits to stacking. 👍🏻
My grandfather loves stack lines, he likes to run duplicate spoons 5 ft apart to replicate fish splitting from a school. To me it has it's time and place.(mostly when fishing the harbor, where I can't run long lines do to boat traffic)
In maine , only one lure or baited hook per line
You definitely have to watch your state’s regulations. Like you mentioned this don’t work everywhere. Legal in our state of Michigan though.
Yes please do a video on how to stack multiple lines on a side rigger.
Just uploaded the stacking video. 💪🏻
My sliders keep tangling to the main line while trolling, any suggestions?
Make sure you’re using quality ball bearing swivels.
Seems like if you get hit on the slider it will slide down to the bottom spoon when reeling in a fighting fish and tangling with the bottom spoon hook fraying line and breaking fish off. And issues with this?
Brad Shelton none. It’s a good practice to check your leaders before redeploying no matter what line it is though.
@@tangledtacklefishing amswome will have to give it a shot maybe double stack with sliders on both haha 😉👍
Can I run a slider with braid on my DR rods?
Yes
Curious on the dw fixed slider with the rubberized coating. I can only imagine that rubber coating getting burned through the mainline when a 20 lb king is pulling on the slider line. Seems like itd be very hard on ur mainline and ruin the rubber on that swivel.
The line releases from the rubber on the action stacker so the is zero friction. Works great!
Tangled Tackle Fishing gotcha
I think stacking DR is a better option. More accurate depth and less change of tangles. IMO
Pros and cons to both for sure.
How do you stop the tangles? Everytime I bring up the rig, It seems like it is twisted around the main line. More hassle than it is worth.
When your bringing you ball up stop at 15'. Reel up the slack. Then continue bringing ball up till just under the surface. Remove your stacker and then pop your line out of rigger release. This avoids twist. (I always run fixed sliders with rubber band method).
Tim H be sure to use ball bearing swivels on both ends as well.
One other thing I’ve seen that causes tangles is the hooks get caught on the line when the bait is put into the water. If you don’t catch it and fish for a while it will absolutely twist up your line. Make sure it’s swimming correctly once you put it in the water.
Chris
Good recommendations guys. I will give sliders another try.
Id like to see how to run two rods on one rigger.
How and what do I tie to the main line,( leader) and lure?
Hector Heredia palomar know are both ends, leader is mono or fluorocarbon (your choice), and we’ll run a spoon on the slider.
Thank you I need to try this...
Fist time going out to salmon fish lake Michigan with down riggers
Good luck!
Do you run sliders above flasher/fly, or meat rigs?
Bob Hunter no. Too much opportunity to twist the lines together with rotators.
Super helpful
So I guess you really can’t use a free slider on an SWR rig as it wouldn’t slide over the lead core section very well, may even hurt the lead core section?
Christopher Rauscher if you’re clipping the DR ball to the backing and not the lead core you’d probably be ok. The snap sliding down the core when a fish hit would have minimal friction.
Thanks. Vary helpful.