How to use Dipsy Divers and Downriggers TANGLE FREE!
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- As always thanks for watching. In this video we go over how to set your downriggers, high divers and low divers without tangles. Make sure to subscribe and turn on notifications so you don't miss a thing.
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Just got home from Ontario! I wish I had seen this video before I left home! Thanks for giving good information. Keep Fishing 🎣
Thanks as always for watching the video. We know this will help many set and retrieve your divers and downriggers cleanly. We appreciate all the great comments also. I'll do a follow up video shortly and answer all the equipment and any other questions within the next few days. So if you have a question make sure to put it in the comments and I'll be happy to answer them for you.
Awesome ! Now could you show how to send out the copper or leadcore with the two divers and downrigger this help so much ! Foxbow
We’ve already got it filmed. Stay tuned.
Man do I appreciate you doing this.
Thanks Chris for the tutorial on how to deploy the divers
Happy to help.
I got my twig and berries wound up in one of those big John downriggers. Was fishing in my swim shorts and the string got sucked in and the rest is history. Haven’t been able to salmon fish since!! Too much P.T.S.D. After 6 surgeries they were able to save half my twig and one berry . Great video!!
I guess a bad day of fishing doesn’t beat a good day at work lol
Sorry to hear
Thanks Chris your videos are real informative.
Thanks for your time .love your videos .keep up the good work 👍👍
Hats off to big Jon what a beautiful setup for the divers
You're not kidding Scott. We love the set up. Big Jon knocked it out of the park.
I was wondering how late in the year do you downrigger fish before the snow flies ? Also what lures and setup do you use and most importantly HOW DEEP do you set up your cannon balls . Where are the fish Salmon and rainbow for depth in late september october ?? I have no experience downrigging in late season only early spring to midsummer salmon slammin . Thanks for all your videos on the setups you use is so super helpful to me . keep them coming please . I know there is a big difference in spring to summer fishing but no idea about end of season before the water freezes up .
Glad to see that you forget to reset the dipsy like I do :-)
It happens.
you made that look so easy! thanks for sharing
Just takes practice. 😁
New fisherman here Chris with a 19’ boat. Why high diver first? I set the rigger first because it has my fish hawk prob on it and I want temp and speed first before deploying the divers.
If you go high diver first you are almost guaranteed no tangles on your initial deploy of both divers and your downrigger. If you are not experiencing any tangling issues stick with what is working for you.
Great video! Learn something new on every video. Thanks again!
We're glad you're getting some useful tips Brian. Thanks for watching.
If you’re fishing in 150 feet of water, what depths do you typically want the downriggers and high/low divers to be? In the Summer/early Fall…
Nice job I learned a lot, thank you
Great tip, Chris!
Couldn't you free spool the divers out the back and get the same results? Great video.
Pat Matthews you want to keep tension on the diver for two reasons. 1. Wire line needs tension to prevent bird nesting and loose wire which the top layer will then bite into. 2. It prevents the diver from free falling and not moving into position like you expect. - Jim
It really helps us thank you 😊
Nice job. Love your vids.
Thanks!
Great video. Were you using the same size diver? I often use two divers one super mag and then a standard size diver to also prevent tangles
That’s a great question. We use Dreamweaver size 124 divers for the lows and 107‘s for the highs.
Ok, I am going to try next year! I have a question, low and high diver settings? Thank you very much.
Same here what numbers do u run the divers on?
Great question Beehive and Northwoodz Farmer. I'm going to do a follow up video in just a few days and answer all of the equipment and other questions for this video. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I noticed you twisting the line on your rigger release. Are you using blacks release? Also your thoughts on rubber band release. Thank you great videos
Great question Cameron. I'm going to do a follow up video in just a few days and answer all of the equipment and other questions for this video. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Hey Chris.
I'm wondering are your high and low divers different sizes or are you just setting them at different settings , like low diver at 1 1/2 setting and high diver at a 3 setting.
Thanks Henry Schmidt
Hey Henry. I am doing a live video tomorrow night at 7 PM my time to answer all of those questions. Feel free to tune in or watch at a later time. Thanks for the comment and the question.
Great video, nice setup!
Thanks and thanks.
Great video as always!!
Thanks Grizz. We appreciate you watching.
what rods are you using for your wire dipsys, I use roller rods by okuma. I see you have traditional rods. Have you had any issues with the wire cutting into your eyelets of the traditional rod?
We use the Okuma Convector Pro wire rods. They are made specifically for wire dipsy fishing. Love them.
Wish you would show your depth settings
Lows on one and highs on three.
Was hopong you would show this process for stacked downrigger & how you bring all that up without tangles. Seems i get everything set right & running good but when i turn around or bring stuff back up it becomes a mess. Cant get releases to let go to bring up each line. & do you bring in your other lines b4 reeling in a fish
I will be using my dipsy diver in about 25 feet of water..how much line would u need too put out from the rod down too the dipsy?
Depends on how deep you want it to go. There’s a chart that comes on almost all divers that will give you information on how deep it will go in comparison to how much line you let out.
How long are your diver rods? How long are your leaders from the diver to flasher?
Great question Tony. I'm going to do a follow up video in just a few days and answer all of the equipment and other questions for this video. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Do you always run a mag diver on the low diver?
Great question. I'm going to do a follow up video in just a few days and answer all of the equipment and other questions for this video. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Other question i have is where can i find this second video, title?
What is the difference in length of line between high diver and low divers when deployed.
Thanks as always Chris! I noticed you wrapping your downrigger line a few times before putting it in the release. Does this prevent false release, and is there a certain method to it or just wrap it and stick it in. I know you use mono on your downriggers; when I’ve used it, I have release problems. Thanks!
Never mind Chris, I see in the video you are using blacks. All I’ve used are Scotty, hence the confusion. I’m getting ready for my first attempt at dd with a rigger and maybe even a pump handle or two. Confidence level is pretty high because of your time, so thanks for sharing. Fishing Fort Peck salmon in Montana, as I’m too old to pack out elk, but not to learn new skills. Keep up the good work!
How do you retrieve the high diver with no fish on it? Can you just pop it and real from the side or do you bring it back in the back of the boat
Once you release it it will go to the rear of the boat.
Do you ever get double divers tangled while fighting a fish? Or are they too far apart too?
Too far apart usually.
With the long leaders on the divers, I assume you hand line the fish when the diver is at the end of the rod with a fish on? Unless you have a 20 foot handle on your net.
sheandkemwilson exactly right.
Great video. Let me ask are you fishing out of a Striper boat? If so what size? I would love to see how you have the other parts of the boat rigged. I just bought a 2601 Striper and have been looking for rigging ideas. Thanks.
It is a Striper Seaswirl 2601. Great boat and fishes wonderfully. We are currently doing a series on boat rigging where we are going to charter boats in the area and doing layout and rigging videos. We will do one on our boat also. The videos will start coming out in the next few weeks. Thanks for watching Mike.
Would like to know what settings all the dipsy divers are?
Lows on 1 and highs on 3.
How do you set 10 colored lead core out if your adding 8 oz snap weight.?
You say that you run a 16’ leader behind the dipsey. I have tried to run a long leader like that but It causes me trouble netting the fish as its too far away from the boat and I can’t reach it with the net. Yes, I have a long net handle.
Dan, you’ll need to hand line the fish to the boat with a long leader. Just don’t drop the rod in case the fish takes off again. - Jim
Super helpful vid
Thanks Corey. We're glad you got something out of it.
Hey there. I noticed on the port side of the boat, your down rigger is at the far back corner and your rod and rod holder are behind it forward of the rigger. I was taught to place the rod aft of the rigger to avoid the line on the rod and the rigger cable from getting tangled. Is there a benefit to either way? Thanks from Ontario, keep up the vids please
As long is the tip of your rod extends past the downrigger boom you’re fine. I like having the rod in a position where it can be easily obtained. I don’t like having to lean out over the downrigger to get the rod out of the holder.
maybe next year I will plan a trip with my 27 foot boat to your side of the lake but not sure how it works crossing the border on the water would be and my canadian dollars are only worth play money to yours so it would cast me a small fortune after changing currency to USA and staying there for a short time . Maybe I could borrow a boat slip of you for a few days and some gas to get back home lol .
I just bought a 400 copper rod and reel if you have 1 setup you could run off that what would it be? Thanks in advance. Ive been struggeling for about 6 years thanks toyou im finally putting fish in the boat.
There is no way I could answer that. Ten color, five color, 200 copper, 300 copper, downriggers, divers all have their day in the spotlight.
What do you do when the wind is strong and the boat is crabbing sideways as well as forward
Trolling bags can really help stabilize the boat.
I've watched both this video and your long lines video. I still don't understand how your high divers don't tangle with your 10-core long lines. Based on a #3 setting of your 107mm high diver, with 100 feet of line out, that would run about 52 feet deep. Your 10 core is also 50 feet deep. They are the same depth. The long line is out 333 feet, though... is that what keeps them from tangling?
You have to remember the lead core and coppers are on planer boards out away from the boat. The length of the lead core and copper also help prevent tangles. Also a 107mm diver set on three with 100 feet of line out would be closer to a 35 foot depth, but I get what you're saying.
@@tangledtacklefishing much thanks for the reply friend. I’m trying to learn as much as I can before I start throwing line on my reels.
Great video and appreciated as always!
Questions: Do you use 2 different length rods for your high and low diver rods or are they both the same length?
Also with running wire, do you spool all wire on your reel or do you use say a 300 feet of mono etc then like 1000 feet of wire ? Thanks again.
Thanks for watching and commenting Alan. We will be doing a follow up video shortly answering yours, and many other questions regarding the equipment and techniques shown in this video.
What is the difference in a high diver and a low diver?
The size and settings.
Chris what settings do you use for high and low divers?I don’t understand What are you actually doing winding line in circles before putting in the Downriggers release?
Setting #3 for highs and #1 for lows.
Are you using same size dipsies for high and low or mags for low and 3s on high?
The diver rods! What were the numbers set at on there dipsy 0- 3. I never heard a #.. for the high side or low..
We did a follow up video about a week after this one answering that question, and many others. If you search the channel you will definitely find it.
What does the rod tip do when you have a fish on. I have the divers and I’m reluctant to use them. Not sure to tell when there is a fish on.
You'll definitely know when a fish hits. The rod will jump like a bucking bronco.
Hi, enjoying the vids. A captain was trying to explain to me how to use a standard dipsy as a slide diver by passing your line through the diver connection point instead of clipping your swivel to it.... after that he lost me. He said he uses what I assume to be a planner board release to stop the diver from sliding down until the fish bites. I did not follow the rest of his explaination as to how he connects to the release...Are you familiar with this? He said after someone showed him he stopped using regular sliders so he could cut down on extra gear/clutter. Lemme know what you think. "Thanks as always"!!
Good question. I’ve seen similar things but have never tried them. I’m sure there are pros and cons just like anything else. I’ll stick with regular slide divers for now.
This was a great video ! Question: My dipsys don't seem to go away from the boat even when i set them to "3". And yes, I'm on the port side for the "left" setting on the dipsy. How far should they be travelling away from the boat at a setting of 3 and speed at 2.5 mph ?
They may not seem to be traveling far due to currents below the boat. Try to see which way everything is pulling and try to adjust your troll if possible. It's also somewhat of an illusion. They may not look like they are moving away from the boat but most of the line is underwater and can't be seen which may make it look like it's not traveling out and away from the boat.
Been getting tangled on my dd... probably not letting them out slow enough?
Also if not marking fish higher in the water column, do you still run a shallower spoon/plug in case? Thanks
We definitely still run some higher lines throughout the majority of the day. If you think about it you probably mark about 10% of the fish you catch. Many fish come on the divers and long lines which are well outside the cone of your fishfinder.
Will this work on a steel, braided or mono best?
Don't use mono for divers. Too much stretch. It works fine for wire or braid.
Being new to this, what is meant by high and low divers? I am guessing it's where they are at in the water. But are they 2 different size divers?
Low is closer to the boat and deep while the high is farther from the boat and shallower. To avoid getting fish tangled in other lines while you bring them in you set your lines in order from the side of the boat outward. If you could look from behind the boat at the bait they would be in a V shape. Deepest under the boat, shallowest farthest out. You also stagger distance back as viewed from above outer lines are farther back. It mostly keeps lines clear of tangles while catching fish. At least smaller fish. Lol
@@thebrushhawg thank you so much for the info. I greatly appreciate it.
Nailed it.
So when released the bottom faces the boat more the black top?
Not sure I understand the question.
When you deploy the diver the weight is set at 1-3 or so on the outside edge causing the diver to go out?
@@RedHawkOne in essence, yes. The weight tips the diver to more or less of an angle in relation to the line. Less angle = less planing to the side. More angle = more planing to the side. - Jim
What setting number do you run on high and low divers?
Lows on 1, highs on 3.
the low diver rod position kinda scares me say a king hit and ran at the boat would the rod just fall out into the water
Highly unlikely that the rod would come out of the holder. We’ve never had an issue.
@@tangledtacklefishing well I guess that takes away the worry if it hasn't happened to you with the amount of fish you catch it's all good thanks
How do you know what depth the diver will take your lure ?
They have a chart on the package.
How do I figure out how deep to put the diver verses what depth I’m in. And not by the chart on the box
That will change daily. You have to locate the fish and target those depths. I wish there was an easier answer but that’s it in a nutshell. It takes time to learn and dial it in.
Are you running 2 different settings on the high and low dipsey. Thank you
High on #3 and low on #1.
So your high diver was at 110ft and set at 3. Do you have an idea of about far off the centerline of the boat that might be running? Best guess?
When deploying hi and low dipsy’s what settings do you use and do you use the same size dipsys
Setting 1 on the low, 3 on the high. You don’t have to use the same size dipsy and this deployment method will stay the same. We use both the 127 and 107 DW Divers for high divers. - Jim
I do have few questions
Can I use this diver in saltwater and what size of disc you are using and weight? Coz usually in winters fish are below 15 meters and its really hard to target them kindly reply
Vekash Kantilal you can absolutely use them in salt water. We have used them to target fish over 30 meters deep with the 124mm size. 15 meters would be no problem. No additional weight required.
@@tangledtacklefishing thanks sir I'm going to target king mackerel in this upcoming winter season I have a 10cm disc with 160gram of weight
Good video, but no mention of settings on the dipsys? Just high diver and low diver.....so i assume you have your outside rod at shallowest depth?
High diver is somewhat of a misnomer because there are times when we are running them at the same, or similar depths as the low divers. But typically the high diver is a shallower rod. I cover all of the settings and many other diver related questions in a follow up video which was posted a few weeks later. Just look through our videos and I’m certain you’ll find it. Thanks for watching.
Low diver is deeper than the high diver?
As far as depth is concerned it can be lower, or higher than the high diver.
@@tangledtacklefishing what is meant by “high diver”? Is it the outer diver when running more than one diver per side or what?
If you only can only have 1 diver each side would you run a high or low diver.
If I run single divers it’s almost always high divers.
@@tangledtacklefishing thanks
Awesome how to video on divers rite there!!!!
Thanks BMK. We're hoping that this helps people put more fish in the box.
Are you using wire on both divers
That’s correct. I’ll be doing a follow up video shortly on our gear and the equipment questions. So make sure to ask anything else and tune in. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Wouldnt multi stacking the downrigger get the same results?
Not quite sure what you mean.
@@tangledtacklefishing using stacker clips on the same downrigger to put 2 or 3 lines on the same ball at multiple depths
My diver keeps riding on top of water, not sure why?any help would be greatly appreciated.
You are either not closing the arm, or the weight has either fallen off or is possibly turned around backwards. Hope this helps.
Arm is closed, weights on,it dives when I put in water but swims right up an stays on surface after I tighten drag and in motion, no matter how many feet of string I let out, I was thinking of trolling bags to slow me down, Thanks for answering back
@@tangledtacklefishing ,there is absolutely no videos on what happens if you're doing it wrong 😅😊
That is absolutely strange. What brand of diver are you using? And can you email me a photo of the top and bottom? Christangledtackle@gmail.com
Maybe I can remedy that.
What do you setting do you set your high and low divers at?
Low diver is set at 1, high diver is set at 3.
What lake ya on there?
Lake Michigan.
@@tangledtacklefishing nice! Hard to find good info for fishing any of the grates. Thanks for the videos!
Were both the high and low divers clocked in the same setting?
blue collar wrench 75 no. The low diver is set at 1, the high diver set at 3.
You only run 2 downriggers
How much line do you let out on rigger before hooking downrigger on line
Watch this video and how the 100 foot rule works. It’s a great starting point.
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