Ducati Streetfighter V4: 600 miles under 6K RPM for break-in?! My thoughts...
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2020
- What are your feelings on breaking in a brand new motorcycle? Do you adhere strictly to the manufacturer's recommendations? Break it in on a dyno? Ride it like you stole it from day one? Let me know in the comments below!
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I work at a Ducati dealership, and my service representatives as well and my head master tech and other experts that I use for resources have stated that you shouldn't treat the bike differently than how you would normally ride. The best way to break in the motors (and this comes from testing and experience of the shop) is riding the bike as much and as hard as you want to, but to avoid staying at constant rpm. If you are traveling down the road at 70 and holding 5k rpm on the V4 for more than 10-15 minutes, it sets unequal amounts of wear. All in all, best thing to do is ride hard, go fast, and constantly be rolling through gears and speeds until the 600 miles service.
Just got mine through it's first service. The dealer did recommend 6k but realistically says 8-10k should be fine. The main reason he said, was that if you have an issue and they have to send the data from the ECU to Ducati trying to fix it, and they see you have been thrashing it, they could void your warranty. I definately noticed it took most of the 600 miles for the quick shifter (it had already gone through the recall) to settle in so, sticking to lowish rpm (6-10) wasn't a bad idea. It was frustrating as the power definately starts to kick in in the 8-12 range. Enjoy your bike - it is a beast!
100% They say in the manual they will use it against you if they find a fault with excessively harsh use. We know Ducati download riding data too, it's how they develop fueling maps for rider enjoyment. BMW have a rev limiter, so they consider it that necessary.
It's prudent to a) follow the manual and trust the engineers (you wouldn't ignore a torque spec) b) get used to the bike c) good excuse to get out there often with your new beast
To come in on this super late wile looking up heat shield installation; it's best to ride it normally but ultimately makes very little difference. Were talking people arguing about 3hp tops and potentially better engine reliability at +20k miles.
You *should* vary the RPM, you *should* let the engine warm up to at least show one blip on the dash, and you *should* let the engine go through heat cycles. You vary the RPM because at different RPM the piston rings and valves actually spin, this is what helps them seat better. You let it warm up because metal expands, running it cold the parts are smaller than they will be at higher temps. You also heat cycle the engine for this reason, as the parts expand and cool this can strengthen the metal.
The manufacture warning is for liability. Mainly it is so you don't yeet your new bike and blame them for not telling you to take it easy. It is also for if something does go horribly wrong mechanically but to a much smaller extent. Realistically an engine isn't fully broken in until much later than 600 miles. Not to mention, any lingering mechanical defects that didn't happen because you took it easy up to 600 can still just as well happen at 601, but the manufacture can't argue that it was your fault for over reving it after 601 miles as much as they can before 600...
I took your approach in breaking mine in - ran it to about 10k but not much harder. My two favorite Ducati mechanics insist I was wasting my time, and now just approaching the 7K service it’s been absolutely rock solid. My theory is they want you to keep the rev’s down at first until you get a sense of the bike - crashed new riders don’t build market share. Thanks for your vid! It will be fun to follow your experience with the bike.
Appreciate the input! And very true on breaking in the rider as well!
Engine break-in is more to do with bedding/seating the rings and running in the cams. The metal in the oil is from the cylinder wall cross hatching. In my experience keeping it out the rev limiter, varying RPMs and loading the engine are the best way. Race bikes are different because it's only gonna do a race or two before being gone through again.
I don’t think it’ll hurt if you do what is recommended, after all, they built/design and engineered the bike. 600 miles of being good and observing does good results.
They (Ducati) never said anything else after 600 miles, so I think it’s a negligible duration. After that 600 miles, ride it as hard as you like.
It’s the same process I went through with my ex-girlfriend!!!!
And she’s now my wife, and she’s very happy and proud that I treated her well right from the beginning! Lessons to be learned boys!
Ride safe, ride your ride!!!
i throw my mine on the dyno to break it in. gsxr-1000, another gsx-r1000, and a ninja zx-10. never had an issue with any of those bikes. i'm getting a V4 S this March and i'll probably do the same thing.
Typically I just ride it...but still take care to give it some time before really railing on it. I also elect to do an oil change at about 100 miles as well. With the amount of electronics on the V4 I'm going to adhere to the manual and keep it under the stated RPMs. I can just imagine the ECU doing a data log and then if there is a problem Ducati gets a free out and can say "tisk tisk you went over 6k...no more warranty for you."
Just didn’t ping it of the limiter on my v2 for first 600. Will take it reasonable sensible for another 600 than go hard
Damn Matt and his Husky look so cool. Imagine being that cool. Damn.
So cool that you forget to buckle your helmet.
Matt Loberstein those are cool bikes. I bought my wife the Svartpilen 701, but steal it often.
I rode my Streetfighter V4S pretty "normal" in the break in stage. I will admit that I purposely did not red line or wring its neck... I have had no issues (touch wood), currently 2,000 miles on it.
One thing I would recommend is to search your VIN on Ducati's recall portal to see if there are any recalls for your bike and try and get it done in first service. I did this and there was an auto-shifter recall. On some of the newer bikes there's a flywheel issue? Anyway, Google the Ducati recall site and plug in your VIN. Worth the "trouble".
Enjoy the beast, it's a great machine.
Thanks for the advice, definitely will do that before I take it for the service!
@@DucatiSpacers if you can, check it plenty early just in case parts need to be ordered. Cheers!
Hit 192 during first week. The bike screams and never stutters lol
The only bike I ever bought new (2016 Harley Softail Slim), I followed the recommended RPMs and break in period. I didn't want to risk $20K on breaking a brand new bike. I do have a question for you Kev! How did you break in the Speciale? ;)
Looking forward to the upcoming Streetfighter mods and motovlogs!
Redline from day one, DUH!
@@DucatiSpacers LOL! ;)
Manufacturer recommended period from day 1
All the comments saying they ignore the manufacturer instructions make me laugh, Ducati spend millions on design and engineering engines and components but as always "Bloke on the internet" knows best. I get it in my job as a technical manager for a tire manufacturer I advise people on the best inflation pressure for a bike or vehicle after we have tested the product for years only to be told I don't know what I'm talking about. Everyone is an expert.
Seems like most of the comments have recommended following the manufacturer as well!
I stuck to 6 to 7k just did the 600 mile service an the manual states to run it to 7k until 1553 miles? thoughts?
My thoughts: no. 😂
1,553, like the engine knows. lmao
My V4S is now at 120/1000km. I will keep it below the orange area
Good man!
Ducati Spacers it’s more important that the oil is warmed up. My ducati dealer said it doesn’t matter that much then.
I kept mine below 7500 rpm. It has done 1000km now... My 2nd and last Ducati!! Very expensive bike and already have issues. It is cutting out while riding - happened twice yesterday. Once in mid-corner. Dangerous!! It also get stuck in gears when using the QS (3rd,4th&5th). I checked on the Ducati site and mine is not marked for recalls.... I'm somewhat disappointed!!
Cutting out as in turning off completely? Or just cutting power intermittently?
@@DucatiSpacers Like in ignition switched off...
i shit all over that rule on mine. but i did keep it under 10K and tried to not hold a steady rpm for any length of time. nothing was said about it at the first service so i assume there wasnt a code thrown that voids a warranty.
Yeah, very unlikely they’d care, though I’d be nervous if there was some sort of failure within those first 600 miles!
I’m 150 miles from my 1st service on my v4s pan. I’ve had 4 new bikes in the last 3 years including a couple ninja h2s and a 1299s. All my previous bikes I’ve more or less stuck to the manufacturers recommendations and they were a pain in the butt, especially the 1299 which felt like I was doing more damage keeping the revs low than if I’d used higher revs. With the v4, I fully intended to ignore the book once I’d covered around 50 or so miles, but I’ve found it’s more than happy up to and around the 6k(have stayed a little over once or twice) So I haven’t felt the need to over rev it. However one thing for certain once it has its 1st service the manual is going to be ignored, I think it says keep it to 7k until you hit 1500 miles lol. That would be my entire annual mileage
I'll most likely be ignoring that part as well! And agreed, the bike seems to be happy sitting around 6-7k RPM.
When I took delivery of my v4s panigale I took it redline straight from the dealership. I personally don’t think it matters too much, as long as the the rings are creating an effective seal
Brave man 😁
Broke mine in at trackdays fukya !! But the streetfighter derates itself its gay as fuk not letting ya go full power !! I paid 28 gs i want full power now not month away!! Break all my shit in hard !! No good pussy footen it the go balls to the walls lol poor engine wont like that hehe
600 under 6,000 and another 600 under 7,000.
I am a helicopter mechanic by trade. Listen to what the owners manual says. Break it in by the book. Their procedure is based on facts, testing, and hard results. Everything else is strictly an opinion.
Couldn't agree more. This is how i broke in my SF V4.
I knoooow, but it’s so painful
Short term pain for long term gain!
Sorry, but comparing a helicopter to a bike is apples to oranges. Let's see some facts that ignoring the motorcycle break in is a detriment.
Just didn’t ping it of the limiter on my v2 for first 600. Will take it reasonable sensible for another 600 than go hard