How to Write Modern Jazz Chord Progressions Like Wayne Shorter

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  • @gilevansinsideout
    @gilevansinsideout  3 місяці тому +4

    Hey there, I hope you enjoyed the video and try out some of the chord techniques. Here is a link to Lalal . ai if you'd like to try it out. link: www.lalal.ai/?fp_ref=alex82

  • @noble2122
    @noble2122 3 місяці тому +13

    ive been waiting for more people to build on that idea from adam, “jazz impressionism” the video had me looking at different impressionist painters and listening to wayne all week, thank you so much for this video

  • @RobberZhi
    @RobberZhi 3 місяці тому +12

    I fell in love with this kind of music as a young and mostly musically illiterate listener. It must have made some intuitive sense to me, or I wouldn’t have listened so persistently, but even now, something like Nefertiti can seem like black magic when I try to pick it out by ear. This really helped pinpoint what I must have been picking up on some level and this is a great framework for exploring in greater depth, but also in a way just adds to the appreciation of the unfathomable genius of these musicians. Sincere thanks.

    • @gilevansinsideout
      @gilevansinsideout  3 місяці тому

      Thank you! Yes it is interesting music isn’t it? Glad to have helped

  • @seedwards521
    @seedwards521 3 місяці тому +5

    i’ve been a fan of your channel for years now, love your content and it just keeps getting better

    • @gilevansinsideout
      @gilevansinsideout  3 місяці тому

      Thank you! I’m always happy to hear suggestions about what you’d like me to cover

  • @RobberZhi
    @RobberZhi 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks!

  • @markyachnin1901
    @markyachnin1901 3 місяці тому +2

    This is wonderful! More videos in this vein please.

  • @beryllium9112
    @beryllium9112 3 місяці тому +2

    THANK YOU SO MUCH I’ve been looking for a video exactly like this for so long!!!!

  • @hugoescobar2243
    @hugoescobar2243 3 місяці тому +2

    Your videos are amazing, please please keep up the content you are doing blessed work.

  • @altosax75
    @altosax75 3 місяці тому

    Another in-depth, engaging and highly effective resource! This is wonderful! 🔥🎷

  • @tomphillpotts
    @tomphillpotts 3 місяці тому

    Hey Alex, I've been thinking about understanding jazz harmony better and trying to use it more in my music, and your video pops up. Nice one!

    • @gilevansinsideout
      @gilevansinsideout  3 місяці тому

      Hey Tom! Oh cool, yeah I thought someone like you might enjoy this different look at harmony

  • @Jordu7
    @Jordu7 3 місяці тому +1

    Very well presented intriguing concepts! Thank you Alex. So many possibilities again to keep an arrangement interesting and "spicy". The use of "AI" tools will increase a lot in all areas. We'll see what we gain and what we loose.

    • @gilevansinsideout
      @gilevansinsideout  3 місяці тому

      Thank you. Yes indeed we’ll see what we lose/gain! 😀

  • @jazzman1945ify
    @jazzman1945ify 2 місяці тому +1

    I see that you and I have a similar harmonic concept; but I base it not on the work of Ron Miller, but on the Soviet musicologist Yuzef Kon; who, in the context of decomposition of functionality, proposed a mathematical algorithm for an alternative analysis of the relationships of tensions and relaxations in chord progressions in the music of A. Schoenberg and Alban Berg based on three parameters: chord saturation (interval structure), chord position, chord register (1967).

    • @gilevansinsideout
      @gilevansinsideout  2 місяці тому

      Oh I’m not sure if I have read that persons work! I’ll check it out, as I’ve read quite a lot on Schoenberg 😄

    • @jazzman1945ify
      @jazzman1945ify 2 місяці тому +1

      @@gilevansinsideout If there is someone in your area who can translate Yuzef Kon's article from Russian, I can send you a PDF of the almanac containing it.
      ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD,_%D0%AE%D0%B7%D0%B5%D1%84_%D0%93%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BC%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

    • @gilevansinsideout
      @gilevansinsideout  2 місяці тому +1

      Oh wow. I know some Russian speakers, but not that well. I’ll look him up though

  • @jtoddmusic7090
    @jtoddmusic7090 2 місяці тому +1

    Ron Miller's books are great!

  • @traevoli
    @traevoli 3 місяці тому

    Great video (as always)! Could you follow this up with more on chord progressions as they relate to reharmonization? I sometimes pick chords for color and have a hard time making them work functionally in a progression. I'd love to hear your insight on this topic!

    • @gilevansinsideout
      @gilevansinsideout  3 місяці тому +1

      Oh yep. That sounds like a good idea. Can you expand on what you mean by ‘making them work functionally’? As usually when you’ve selected a new chord it tends to fit within the progression already.

    • @traevoli
      @traevoli 3 місяці тому +1

      @@gilevansinsideout, I'll try. As a singer and player of other melodic instruments, I'm particularly interested in how a melody note interacts with the underlying harmony of the moment. You can convey so many different emotions! Sometimes, to punctuate a word in the lyrics, I choose a chord *only* be the emotional impact that I feel it has in relation to the melody notes of the moment. This can get me into trouble, because I wasn't actually looking at the "function" of the chord in tonal Western music. There's one particular jazz reharmonization I've been struggling with. My last pass at it got some great color at the appropriate moments, but when I showed it to a few jazz musicians, they weren't convinced it worked. I clearly need to rework it again, but I'm at a loss for where to begin this time.

    • @gilevansinsideout
      @gilevansinsideout  3 місяці тому +1

      Mmm sounds interesting. A lot of the progressions in Wayne’s and herbies music don’t ‘work’ either. So it might be a case of setting up a more modern sound or context from the start of the tune. Like I usually mention in my harmonising videos and you say in your comment , the bass line is important! Consider the interval to the melody and ‘melody’ of the bass

  • @giacomobaroni398
    @giacomobaroni398 3 місяці тому +1

    Could you do an analysis of the whiplash pieces like too hip to retire, overture for whiplash, first rehearsal, upsingin

    • @gilevansinsideout
      @gilevansinsideout  3 місяці тому

      Hey there, oh I’ve seen the movie but don’t know the exact pieces. I’ll check them out

    • @sabribaroni3065
      @sabribaroni3065 3 місяці тому +1

      @@gilevansinsideoutplease please please😭those pieces are fenomenal jazz big band writing
      i love how the section are utilized and the armonizations

    • @gilevansinsideout
      @gilevansinsideout  3 місяці тому

      Are the scores available anywhere?

    • @sabribaroni3065
      @sabribaroni3065 3 місяці тому +1

      I tried to check but i didn’t find it, for too hip to retire there’s a score on musescore but i think it’s not the same as the original

    • @gilevansinsideout
      @gilevansinsideout  2 місяці тому

      Thanks

  • @richardblough
    @richardblough 3 місяці тому +1

    What is the program that you use to transcribe?

    • @gilevansinsideout
      @gilevansinsideout  3 місяці тому

      Hey there. Its called Lalal.ai link: www.lalal.ai/?fp_ref=alex82

    • @gilevansinsideout
      @gilevansinsideout  3 місяці тому

      It's called Lalal. link: www.lalal.ai/?fp_ref=alex82

  • @shayznati9424
    @shayznati9424 3 місяці тому +1

    weird click at about 50 seconds in. might wanna check it out

  • @GAoctavio
    @GAoctavio 3 місяці тому

    great explanation of this non-functional harmony