The Ultimate Doom - E4M2: Perfect Hatred (UV, Pistol Start)

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  • Опубліковано 9 тра 2009
  • If you thought the PSX version was nasty, then you need to wake up.
    This is undoubtedly the hardest level in all of The Ultimate Doom. Ammo is somewhat scarce, and there are Barons at almost every turn outside of the main chamber, which if attacked immediately after one another, can drain ammo resources in no time.
    The trick is to take things slowly, going back to scrounge extra shells whenever available, and taking out monsters from vantage points. Once you get your hands on the Plasma Rifle, things get considerably easier, although merely spraying a load of destructive energy at everything won't solve your problems at all.
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  • @halobro27
    @halobro27 3 роки тому +6

    I would like everyone to know that I made it all the way to this level without realizing there is a sprint button.

    • @inthebasement1592
      @inthebasement1592 3 роки тому +2

      I didn’t know either until I saw this comment...

    • @YogiTheBearMan
      @YogiTheBearMan Рік тому

      @@inthebasement1592 ha, same.

    • @The_Chimera
      @The_Chimera 5 місяців тому

      Same here, haha.

    • @geraldpfeffer
      @geraldpfeffer 20 днів тому +1

      What...The... Duck... THERE IS A SPRINT BUTTON!?

  • @EonFafnir
    @EonFafnir 10 років тому +18

    Man, you are like a living Terminator. You never miss a shot and strife most skillfully. Unbeliable.

  • @AndrewSFTSN
    @AndrewSFTSN 12 років тому +5

    The level design on this is so fiendish. I've just finished TNT Evilution and its repeated huge open area fire trade-offs got stale- then I played this tiny level and had a blast with all the claustrophobia. The chainsaw definitely comes into its own here.

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  11 років тому +3

    True, a lot of us have beat this map on a UV/Pistol Start run. But so many more haven't; this is just here to help the less fortunate.

  • @Hrithmus
    @Hrithmus 4 роки тому +2

    Started playing doom again and this level out of the entire game and expansions kicked my ass so many times

  • @YouLoseAndIWin
    @YouLoseAndIWin 14 років тому +2

    "This is undoubtedly the hardest level in all of The Ultimate Doom"
    Agreed.

  • @DecoSBoss
    @DecoSBoss 9 років тому +7

    4:36 - You got the "ouch face"!

  • @finnw1
    @finnw1 13 років тому

    I have finished this level on UV before but learned some new tricks from your demo, thanks!

  • @vanishy0urself
    @vanishy0urself 14 років тому +3

    Thank god they at least have the courtesy to stock you up at the end of this and at the start of E4M3 so that you don't enter the next level COMPLETELY ammo-drained.
    I've beaten this level on UV *today*, though I had a little shotgun from E4M1. Man, what a beast of a level.
    After this, it's smooth sailing until you hit E4M6.
    Right now, I'm at E4M7 and so far it isn't that hard.
    E4M2 seems to be the hardest "official" Doom level ever.

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  13 років тому +4

    @underpantssquirrel
    It didn't 'randomly' die. I telefragged it.

  • @redkoalabare
    @redkoalabare 15 років тому +1

    damn i searched this becuz after i killed everyone from the start point i couldnt figure out where to go, and I tried just jumping across like a 10 times at least. Good video though, glad someone actually put this level on tube.

  • @Mr_Boss_Smile
    @Mr_Boss_Smile 10 років тому +6

    How the fuck do you go over the gap like that? I can't do that.

  • @kotletschabowy4169
    @kotletschabowy4169 2 роки тому

    I've been trying UV pistol start without knowing about any secrets for like 2 hours, thanks

  • @mason3750
    @mason3750 13 років тому

    I have Doom downloaded from the Xbox Live Arcade. I'm working on getting the achievement for beating this episode on Hurt Me Plenty difficulty or higher, and I was stuck. However, thanks to this awesome video, I just now beat it! (= haha, thank you for uploading this! You beasted it up! =)

  • @UnconditionalLove777
    @UnconditionalLove777 12 років тому +3

    Lol, I love how you started the level. I'm doing that for all levels.

  • @JasanQuinn
    @JasanQuinn 11 років тому +3

    I emerged from E4M2, bloody but triumphant, and when I looked back I saw two sets of bloody footprints, yet in that dark place of Perfect Hatred there were but one. I turned to the Lord and I did say "Lord, did you carry me through this WAD?"
    And the Lord said, "You're fucking joking mate! You let me behind at House of Pain!"
    "Then who carried me?" I asked.
    "DeimosComaBlack did," the Lord replied, "and don't you fucking forget it!"

  • @Pawlacz2137
    @Pawlacz2137 8 років тому +12

    John Romero make this map in 8 Hours

    • @TaoQuaLP
      @TaoQuaLP 8 років тому +4

      no, starts at midnight and finish at 6am. 6 hours ;)

  • @aeris2001
    @aeris2001 6 років тому +1

    Respect, I have just beaten this level on ultra violence and got 100% everything. But it was with the PS3 PSN port, where you can save anywhere, almost like an emulator. I must have died like 50 times. Would have been more if I didn't know the cyberdemon trick. The idea of beating this level all in one go with such class and precision boggles my mind.

  • @vanishy0urself
    @vanishy0urself 14 років тому +3

    OK so I finally beat episode 4 today. E4M2 and E4M6 are the two hardest maps in the episode. E4M1 is the most unforgiving simply because there are practically no ways to restore health. All others are relatively simple, if a bit tricky in places.

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  13 років тому +3

    @OUfootballAuthority
    Early on, it's about making every shot count. If you can kill all the Cacodemons at the start without expending too much ammo/health, you've just earned yourself some considerable breathing room.

  • @jcbbb
    @jcbbb 8 років тому +5

    fuckin pro start

  • @yophey
    @yophey 14 років тому +2

    The cyberdemon scared the CRAP out of me when I saw it the first time I played this level. It's hard.

  • @Akaipl0x
    @Akaipl0x 12 років тому +2

    One thing I have to say about that beginning is the infighting should be utilized as much as possible. There were a few cacodemons that were focused on you then went to fighting the imps and whatnot and you wasted a few shells there. Very good though; I personally don't play pistol start because I'm a wimpy wimp.

  • @PinkFloydrulez
    @PinkFloydrulez 8 років тому

    nicely done

  • @hexen93
    @hexen93 13 років тому +2

    Hands down the hardest level in Ultimate Doom.

  • @fatalist6663
    @fatalist6663 11 років тому +1

    Very good! I didn't even know you could teleport on the Cyber Demon...

  • @MetaSarcasm
    @MetaSarcasm 14 років тому +1

    dude, u are the god mode of this game lol

  • @mdmenzel
    @mdmenzel 9 років тому +2

    A fresh pistol start is actually an advantage in E4M2 as opposed to starting it after completing E4M1. It is impossible to get through E4M1 with much ammo left at all (there isn't much supplied), and you're really really good if you can leave with 100% health as there are no medkits or stimpacks (nine health potions, 12 armor helmets). It is crowded and has five barons.

    • @trem0lo
      @trem0lo 8 років тому +1

      If you're low on health from the previous level, first thing to do is grab the rad suit and book it to the supercharger. Easier said than done.

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  15 років тому +1

    I'll eventually get around to a full playthrough, I guess. From here on out though, E4 isn't too bad, with the possible exception of E4M6.

  • @ZuluRomeo
    @ZuluRomeo 12 років тому +1

    Telefragging the cyberdemon: priceless.

  • @Tommybotham
    @Tommybotham 15 років тому

    Well thanks to you I finally completed Perfect Hatred in 10 mins on Hurt Me Plenty. Got 98% kills cuz I didn't know how to kill the Cyberdemon. But was pretty epic.
    Any tips for Sever the Wicked? I got owned from the get go.. :-(

  • @rpgcinema7916
    @rpgcinema7916 Рік тому

    thanks

  • @swackman15
    @swackman15 15 років тому +1

    howd you jump the ledge at 1:50?
    i did what u did but kept falling

  • @OUfootballAuthority
    @OUfootballAuthority 13 років тому

    I'm trying to beat this level on UV. But there is so many damn demons and practicaly no cover. But your vid gave me some ideas.

  • @glitchhunter09
    @glitchhunter09 12 років тому

    This level is a pain in just about any version, but the DOS version especially. (which is also the XBOX Live version pretty much... Ugh.... I'm stuck here. But thanks for showing this, this gives me some nice strategic ideas.

  • @yujm7
    @yujm7 10 років тому

    Impressive

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  11 років тому +1

    I've previously had a word with E4M6, and then I pissed in its face while laughing about abundances of ammo from the very beginning.
    In other words, I've already recorded a run of that.

  • @jobobbob5825
    @jobobbob5825 9 років тому +1

    Y'know what's fun? getting through the grey area with the lost souls, killing the blue skull Baron and going through the teleporter only to be immediately killed by another Baron of hell. Fun. Fun. F̷̻̤͙̰̦͚̹U͖N̤͇͚̗̤̣̭͡.̖̜͕͙̝̼̹

  • @timemonkey
    @timemonkey 11 років тому +1

    I think this level was very well named. XD

  • @aloedg3191
    @aloedg3191 Рік тому

    This my favorite map

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  15 років тому

    I have.
    It's possibly the best weapon mod out there.

  • @TheWolfgangGrimmer
    @TheWolfgangGrimmer 10 років тому +1

    Didn't want to bother with the secret exit? It was all you were missing to UV-Max this. On the other hand, I do think this is the only video that doesn't exploit the BFG trick.

  • @AndrewSFTSN
    @AndrewSFTSN 12 років тому +1

    Although sadly I didn't know you could telefrag that cyberdemon and pumped loads of rockets into it in an inefficient and panicky manner.

  • @cuddlydog
    @cuddlydog 12 років тому +1

    Just finished this map the other day on the hardest difficulty; it was such a pain in the neck having to restart a hundred times after dieing haha, nice vid though, but you missed the secret exit :/

  • @nowhereman424
    @nowhereman424 12 років тому

    i have the xbox 360 version of this game and how do u get across at the starting

  • @WhiteNightRiots
    @WhiteNightRiots 13 років тому

    Stuck on this map right now, giving me some trouble. So many damn barons! I'm scared to play the plutonia maps though, people saying that their harder than this haha

  • @TadRaunch
    @TadRaunch 14 років тому

    Ouch!

  • @drewn85
    @drewn85 12 років тому

    how do u telefrag the cyberdemon?

  • @DesuAvenger
    @DesuAvenger 14 років тому +1

    This level really isn't *that* bad once you get the hang of it.

  • @TechnologicallyTechnical
    @TechnologicallyTechnical 9 років тому +1

    I wish I could strafe/strife on the app

  • @weegeespaghetti432
    @weegeespaghetti432 12 років тому

    i remember beating this level and the whole episode on ultra violence when i was just 12 years old

  • @JennyTheNerdBat
    @JennyTheNerdBat 12 років тому

    Probably one of the hardest (if not hardest) levels in Classic Doom's history.

  • @Sephuku
    @Sephuku 13 років тому

    @WhiteNightRiots You better don't search 'Go 2 it on Nightmare!'.

  • @SonicTheJackrabbit
    @SonicTheJackrabbit 11 років тому +2

    >Hardest level in Doom 1
    E4M6 would like to have a word with you. :V

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  15 років тому

    It's still capable of some things that DECORATE is useless at without a bunch of ACS scripting.
    I'm pretty well-versed at both formats, but I still prefer DDF. Especially when it comes to fully replacing weapons/monsters - the originals still exist in zdoom/gzdoom/skulltag.pk3, and as such can still be inadvertantly placed/equipped, which can cause all sorts of problems in certain game modes.

  • @xWolfDOFR
    @xWolfDOFR 12 років тому

    I've just complited it yesterday on UV, SP and FM 100% xD even through I'm playing with DOOM EDGE it was freaking hard

  • @Vitilevu23
    @Vitilevu23 14 років тому

    if possible, you should sometimes let the Baron attack the Cacodemon accidentally and watch them fight. Once they drain eachother's health, you can attack them. I'm just giving an idea.

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  15 років тому

    You just... run off the edge.

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  15 років тому

    Check my video list; a 'guide' to that map is in there somewhere! :P

  • @Zellio2011
    @Zellio2011 11 років тому

    Heh, yeah. I loved the Ultimate Doom maps. Doom 2 difficulty without the extra enemies or weapons. However, it's not really all that balanced. Gets easier as you go. Plus, even the harder levels (like this) are kinda deceptive. Once you get passed the beginning trap and esp. the baron trap, it's decently easy to beat.

  • @underpantssquirrel
    @underpantssquirrel 13 років тому

    How did that Cyberdemon just randomly die?

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  15 років тому

    Oh, I know :)

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  11 років тому

    Again...
    "I didn't miss it, I chose not to use it."

  • @Max16032
    @Max16032 10 років тому

    holy fuck, those cacodemons always piss me off. And the barons ever worse.

  • @milanpoolbarca
    @milanpoolbarca 12 років тому

    I just jumped my way to the exit w/o blue or yellow key...can u imagine how difficult that is w/o d blue key

  • @tshirtjay
    @tshirtjay 12 років тому

    @cuddlydog Secret exit?

  • @steam-powereddolphin5449
    @steam-powereddolphin5449 2 роки тому

    Personally, I find Hell Beneath harder, at least on UV. Low ammo and even less healing, with _multiple Barons._

  • @adamcassar8218
    @adamcassar8218 3 роки тому

    ou can kill the cyberdemon quite safely I have found using the rocket laucher and plasma gun but the of course the downside is you use alot of ammo. After you kill the cacodemons position oyurself near the entry door and face him if you are in thew right position and angle the cyberdemon will lauch rockets but they will hit wall and you should recieve little dmage. It takes a while using your plasma gun and rocket laucher just keep firing and eventually it dies.

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  11 років тому

    Hahaha, I like that one.

  • @archy9752
    @archy9752 12 років тому

    @tshirtjay There's a secret exit that leads to E4M9, I have a video of it (Doom E4M2 "Perfect Hatred" UV-MAX) though Anders Johnsen does it in a much more clear and fast manner. You can see him here:
    /watch?v=xFuPv9WEgOI
    Just ad it to the end of your youtube url.

  • @lymandecoconut4832
    @lymandecoconut4832 8 років тому +1

    Ok so it looks like beating this level will be impossible on my computer...for some reason if I try to strafe, fire, and move at the same time, the entire display rotates (e.g. strafing left while firing makes the display turn 90 degrees so everything is sideways. I got to the part in this level where you get the plasma rifle, but it seems impossible to get past all those barons and get the orange key without being able to strafe and fire simultaneously.
    What's funny is that I first played Doom in the mid 90s when I would have been somewhere around 6 or 7 years old. I was taught to play by my Dad, who apparently didn't know about strafing in the original Doom games. So, until very recently, I didn't know you could strafe at all in these games. So I've beaten every level in Doom and Doom II (except every level in Thy Flesh Consumed past the first level, obviously) on Ultra-Violence without strafing. If I could only manage to make my computer's display not flip around, I might be able to finally beat Thy Flesh Consumed and make some progress in Nightmare...

    • @DeimosComaBlack
      @DeimosComaBlack  8 років тому +1

      +Will Davies That's a retarded (and useless) shortcut to rotate the display. You can disable it in your video driver control panel AFAIK (I've never actually been hit by this issue).

  • @helsiclife
    @helsiclife 7 років тому

    omg this map is so difficult!

  • @swackman15
    @swackman15 15 років тому

    nm now, i just found the sprint button, but thx anyways

  • @michaeloffgrid
    @michaeloffgrid 10 років тому +2

    I'm playing the game all the way through for the first time right now (yes, ever), and I'm a little disappointed that Episode 4 is only harder because of more, tougher enemies. Just throwing a bunch of bullet sponges at the player is lame. I guess it is a 20 year old game, so I can understand, but I'm finding it difficult to want to continue this frustration.

  • @DerlebendeBeweis
    @DerlebendeBeweis 4 роки тому

    The 9 dislikes are probably given by Imps

  • @kararandazzo6374
    @kararandazzo6374 9 років тому

    I'm playing it on ps 3 e4m2 and I cant go across the first opening to hit the switch. please help!!

    • @CubiStudios
      @CubiStudios 9 років тому

      I can't make that either, how do you do it?

    • @kararandazzo6374
      @kararandazzo6374 9 років тому +4

      Hold down L1

    • @CubiStudios
      @CubiStudios 9 років тому +2

      Kara Noodwang Thanks! Didn't even know Sprinting was a thing.

    • @kararandazzo6374
      @kararandazzo6374 9 років тому +1

      Me neither... no prob

    • @kierapants
      @kierapants 5 років тому +1

      And on Xbox it’s left trigger

  • @milanpoolbarca
    @milanpoolbarca 12 років тому

    Anybody knows where to download duke 3d with gud seeds

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  12 років тому

    @cuddlydog
    I didn't miss it, I chose not to use it.

  • @Zellio2011
    @Zellio2011 11 років тому

    Meh. Deimos did pretty well but a lot of us have beaten this map on UV. What I'd like to see is someone beat this map on Nightmare, now whoever could do that would be worthy of what you said..

  • @harbourlunatic23
    @harbourlunatic23 13 років тому

    @DeimosComaBlack I like you.

  • @kasouyumi
    @kasouyumi 14 років тому

    I thought this level was in episode 3? Doesn't matter. The thing is that no matter how many times play this map, I end up having to use God mode.

  • @marvingarcia3915
    @marvingarcia3915 11 років тому

    John Romero made this in 6 hours.

  • @sk8terboi10003
    @sk8terboi10003 4 роки тому

    Not to mention on ps4 they added a shit ton of cacodemons at the beginning

  • @kingof-eu5kx
    @kingof-eu5kx 4 роки тому

    1:52 did you just fuckigg JUNP

    • @DeimosComaBlack
      @DeimosComaBlack  4 роки тому

      Yes, I junped. My honour remains intact though, for I didn't jump.

  • @fukyeah1000
    @fukyeah1000 10 років тому

    .gets yellow key. .3 barons appears. OH, YOU MUST BE KIDDING ME!!!

    • @badreligionbomb
      @badreligionbomb 9 років тому +1

      thats where I got and they ate my soul lol

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  14 років тому

    @roxasfruit
    None of that, danke.

  • @blindandwatching
    @blindandwatching 13 років тому

    How much does the Doom guy get paid a week to take on these monsters from hell?

  • @archy9752
    @archy9752 12 років тому

    @archy9752 Wrong link, here's the right one:
    /watch?v=Dza6DQvQj-Y

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  15 років тому

    I don't.
    I run, like every other Doomer.

  • @redkoalabare
    @redkoalabare 15 років тому

    ME 2!

  • @Graszczur
    @Graszczur 9 років тому +1

    It's fucking impossible to finish at Black Metal difficulty

    • @DeimosComaBlack
      @DeimosComaBlack  9 років тому +7

      Which is why BD is terrible, and you should feel terrible for using it.

    • @petarded3
      @petarded3 9 років тому

      Jim Wielebny black metal aint no doom difficulty i ever heard of

    • @Graszczur
      @Graszczur 9 років тому

      nagasockittome Brutal Doom

    • @petarded3
      @petarded3 9 років тому

      man ill acknowledge hdoom difficulties before that bd garbage

    • @Graszczur
      @Graszczur 9 років тому +2

      nagasockittome what's wrong with brutal doom?

  • @zeebpc
    @zeebpc Рік тому

    this lvl is near fucking impossible on UV pistol start omg

    • @DeimosComaBlack
      @DeimosComaBlack  Рік тому

      Nah. Just learn the flow of things.

    • @zeebpc
      @zeebpc Рік тому

      @@DeimosComaBlack yea i just beat it . check the vid on my channel. i didnt even know about the telefrag or BFG though lol

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  14 років тому

    L4D sucks balls.

  • @cupriferouscatalyst3708
    @cupriferouscatalyst3708 7 років тому +3

    i dont know how john romero could slip up this bad. all his maps in episode 1 are great, but this one is just awful. i know that he made it in 6 hours, but thats no excuse. tiny platforms above lava pits in a game with no jump button and barons of hell spawning right in your face out of nowhere is NOT good level design.

    • @help4343
      @help4343 5 років тому +1

      That is what makes it memorable. It is so hard even though it is only the second level in the episode.

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  10 років тому +1

    You can't run? Shame.

  • @patrykzukowski7471
    @patrykzukowski7471 9 років тому

    Uuuuuum. This doesn't look hard at all man, it looks like a normal level, just with many enemies. And all they do is shoot slow projectiles. I mean, maybe it just looks easy, but I feel like I played way harder stages in modern shooters.

    • @PinkFloydrulez
      @PinkFloydrulez 8 років тому +6

      +Patryk Żukowski skilled players make things look way easier than they actually are. out of curiosity, what stages from modern shooters do you feel are harder?

    • @jcbbb
      @jcbbb 6 років тому +1

      looooooool yeah ok

  • @herobrinesblog
    @herobrinesblog 7 років тому

    worst map in my opinion

  • @DeimosComaBlack
    @DeimosComaBlack  15 років тому

    "I never new their was a sprint key"
    Who's a dipshit?

  • @Tommybotham
    @Tommybotham 12 років тому

    This is such a noob playthrough LAAAAAAL