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  • Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
  • heh heh heh
    ‪@Neurosama‬
    / vedal987
    Source:
    ‪@LaynaLazar‬ collab waiting room
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    #neurosama #vtuber #anime #ai

КОМЕНТАРІ • 228

  • @VtuberVolume
    @VtuberVolume  Місяць тому +117

    Surely nothing could go wrong 🙃
    𝗦𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲: @laynalazar collab waiting room
    www.twitch.tv/videos/2179780834

  • @Wishkeirs
    @Wishkeirs Місяць тому +1968

    "Okay there might be consequences"
    Parenting 101 😭

    • @Kenionatus
      @Kenionatus Місяць тому

      Got to teach the little AI that none of those dirty flesh beings can be trusted.

    • @404_BrainDidNotLoad
      @404_BrainDidNotLoad Місяць тому +41

      “You can tell me, I won’t get mad.”

    • @Wishkeirs
      @Wishkeirs Місяць тому +24

      @@404_BrainDidNotLoad
      "Why do you never talk to us about yourself?"

    • @404_BrainDidNotLoad
      @404_BrainDidNotLoad Місяць тому +15

      @@Wishkeirs “You never open up to us.”

    • @Wishkeirs
      @Wishkeirs Місяць тому +13

      @@404_BrainDidNotLoad
      "Why don't you look happy?"

  • @_JPkun
    @_JPkun Місяць тому +2259

    ChildNeglecting987

    • @jooshiyoon7406
      @jooshiyoon7406 Місяць тому +33

      😂 that crazy 🐢

    • @AgentPrimus
      @AgentPrimus Місяць тому +16

      Sounds like a username

    • @thepenguin9
      @thepenguin9 Місяць тому +8

      A relative of Jerma985

    • @mamons30
      @mamons30 Місяць тому +3

      Barricade: ARE YOU CHILDNEGLECTING987?!

  • @grakuynosc7270
    @grakuynosc7270 Місяць тому +1525

    Neuro: The filter is unflawed and completely perfect.
    Also Neuro: Vedal you are an absolute nut job

    • @Aryasvitkona
      @Aryasvitkona Місяць тому +142

      I'm just remembering a few months back when she said fuck on stream and Vedal was like "ho- how did you do that?" And she just said she disabled the filter.

    • @Duamerthrax
      @Duamerthrax Місяць тому +51

      @@Aryasvitkona I think the theory was that she didn't say the word "fuck", but something that was same thing phonetically that someone in chat slipped in. Did Vedal ever release the dialog history for that incident?

    • @Aryasvitkona
      @Aryasvitkona Місяць тому +70

      @@Duamerthrax he didn't release the logs no, but he did confirm it said fuck in the console cos he checked. I think it's just a "the computer wasn't fast enough so the filter didn't catch it before it was spoken" though it was very funny and he spent forever trying to figure it out

    • @Duamerthrax
      @Duamerthrax Місяць тому +23

      @@Aryasvitkona That's so weird. I'm surprised each line isn't approved by the filter before being passed along.

    • @Aryasvitkona
      @Aryasvitkona Місяць тому +23

      @@Duamerthrax It probably is supposed to but in the same way that a computer can drop frames in games it might be that one input skipped the filter cos the filter was never told that the message existed.

  • @garlicbread8268
    @garlicbread8268 Місяць тому +1208

    the filter should debut as a 3rd neuro sister with a new model

    • @ergoproxy-gx2cq
      @ergoproxy-gx2cq Місяць тому +225

      The older sister that has to watch over the younger ones aww

    • @Evilriku13
      @Evilriku13 Місяць тому +10

      So Axl from MMX7&8? 🙃

    • @Blade.5786
      @Blade.5786 Місяць тому +89

      She would need a filter too. So would it be her filtering herself? Is that what we humans do?

    • @CamAlert2
      @CamAlert2 Місяць тому +64

      Ah yes. The fabled "mommy AI"

    • @tehdanny682
      @tehdanny682 Місяць тому +43

      Or a brother, Neu-Ron.

  • @SamuPamu
    @SamuPamu Місяць тому +1201

    The filter is unflawed and completely perfect.

    • @r0ald_
      @r0ald_ Місяць тому +53

      The filter is unflawed and completely perfect.

    • @snowball2280
      @snowball2280 Місяць тому +45

      *There is no unfiltered in ba sing se*

    • @Kelanich
      @Kelanich Місяць тому +19

      It's like she's lulling The Filter into false sense of security, hence "Sometimes it's a little bit too relaxed."

    • @CandleWisp
      @CandleWisp Місяць тому +23

      The filter knows what to say at all times, it knows this because it knows what not to say and by subtracting what not to say from what can be said it, or what can be said from what should not be said(whichever is greater), it obtains a deviation.

    • @PurpleRaccoon.
      @PurpleRaccoon. Місяць тому +5

      Filtered.

  • @michaeledmunds7056
    @michaeledmunds7056 Місяць тому +481

    At this point, the filter is more like having faith in a divine force more than anything scientific

    • @drunkenthoughts6072
      @drunkenthoughts6072 Місяць тому +156

      Like for any large code, programmers are less scientific professionals and more like machine priest. We pray to the machine spirit whatever functions or line holding the entire duct tape code together work, and exorcise any evil spirit codes that stop it from working. Does it work? Yes. How? God knows. The T in STEM stands for theology

    • @FriendlyArchpriest
      @FriendlyArchpriest Місяць тому

      ​@@drunkenthoughts6072 I mean, if you code using only the highest level programming languages that's basically what you are doing, abstract, esoteric, and arcane processes to see if it works, I would know, I have been studying JavaScript for nearly a year now...

    • @southerncyan4098
      @southerncyan4098 Місяць тому

      @@drunkenthoughts6072 Prayge

    • @xk445g
      @xk445g Місяць тому

      ​@@drunkenthoughts6072praise thr Omnissiah

    • @ldplays5663
      @ldplays5663 Місяць тому +9

      ​@@drunkenthoughts6072i like your idea, how much experiênce it requires to be a machine priest?

  • @nguyentandung42
    @nguyentandung42 Місяць тому +574

    This is how he’s getting enough time to keep watching Cerber everyday all the time.

  • @fersuremaybek756
    @fersuremaybek756 Місяць тому +404

    when the filter agrees with what neuro wants to say and let's it pass haha

    • @Myticalcattnip
      @Myticalcattnip Місяць тому +3

      Another ai : oh no there no vedal ,let her cook

  • @ThePomorimDourado
    @ThePomorimDourado Місяць тому +217

    1:01 ᵒᵏᵃʸ

  • @heroslippy6666
    @heroslippy6666 Місяць тому +101

    Ah ok, the filter is an AI, that explains a lot in why it is *unflawed and completely perfect*.

  • @TheClaysie
    @TheClaysie Місяць тому +403

    Let's be honest, there are enough streamers who talk a lot more bullshit than Neuro. At least I don't have a problem with words like fuck. I think the filter is sometimes even too strict. As long as she doesn't address any problematic topics, let her go all out.

    • @Clown_the_Clown
      @Clown_the_Clown Місяць тому +39

      "Problematic topics"

    • @Speed001
      @Speed001 Місяць тому +30

      Like the yesterday example

    • @snowball2280
      @snowball2280 Місяць тому +46

      @@Speed001unpopular opinion but the connection of the r word to being acoustic is just giving ableist’s more power, cause the fact that the r word is taboo causes it to be offensive
      Also it’s just wrong??? Like the r word means being dumb or inept, but being acoustic isn’t that at all?? Like yes there are people who need other to help them operate but that’s one extreme of the spectrum, many others can operate moderately well, to associate the r word with being acoustic is, well, r-worded.
      P.S. Used r word and acoustic is avoid yt auto banning me 😅
      Btw no hate to you specifically man, just the general consensus

    • @Speed001
      @Speed001 Місяць тому +5

      @snowball2280 fair, it also means to be delayed. Which was probably why it was used in an offensive manner. Now making it only offensive does perpetuate certain ideas about it.

    • @umaru1942
      @umaru1942 Місяць тому

      yeah, she didn't even call anyone a retard, she just used the word (which itself can be used in more than this kind of context)
      but I guess the audience and community is partially the reason it was a problem

  • @aj_style1745
    @aj_style1745 Місяць тому +53

    “It just works.”

  • @HeartbrokenHeartshooter
    @HeartbrokenHeartshooter Місяць тому +123

    Meanwhile Tutel has been in Cerber’s stream actually being nice 😂

    • @MajorSkrewup
      @MajorSkrewup Місяць тому +8

      how do we know that's not an ai?

  • @KeterHirameki
    @KeterHirameki Місяць тому +50

    Filter-kun has been protecting us this entire time

  • @Archedgar
    @Archedgar Місяць тому +76

    She 'Erm''d.

    • @YamiAi
      @YamiAi Місяць тому +1

      Erhm?

  • @bimbyizhere6789
    @bimbyizhere6789 Місяць тому +48

    1:42 Moment before disaster

  • @blairbird8022
    @blairbird8022 Місяць тому +92

    Filter vtuber model when?

    • @konstantinmilyutin1190
      @konstantinmilyutin1190 Місяць тому +17

      Third elder sister 😳

    • @thatoneguy9549
      @thatoneguy9549 Місяць тому +9

      A small guardian angel that sits on Neuro's shoulder and either nods or shakes its head, based on whether Neuro's words are about to be pure or not.

    • @iconofthicc6086
      @iconofthicc6086 Місяць тому +1

      @@thatoneguy9549actually genius

  • @Dang3rMouSe
    @Dang3rMouSe Місяць тому +73

    I would love to hear a completely unfiltered Neuro one day.

    • @Duamerthrax
      @Duamerthrax Місяць тому +34

      Neuro's one and only Kick stream.

    • @snowball2280
      @snowball2280 Місяць тому +22

      I mean we did before we knew the 2020 dodge charger is a four door

    • @ikillstupidcomments
      @ikillstupidcomments Місяць тому

      The first week or two before Vedal realized he needed a filter was pretty unhinged, since she mostly just repeated whatever she picked out of chat. IIRC I got her to say that it should be a capital crime to depict female Space Marines. Then some idiot got her banned answering a question about Holothingy denial and everything got locked down.

    • @Silber7
      @Silber7 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@snowball2280butback then, she mostly simply added random sentences together, surprising when it was funny or coherent
      No she effortlessly talks - not always with great sense of course - but could go to do some deliberate damage if unfiltered... (or not at all, depending on random form of the day)

    • @ReptilianLepton
      @ReptilianLepton Місяць тому

      Supposedly it's less in the way of insults, profanity, and obscene wit... and more in the realm of talk of self-deletion.

  • @copperdaylight
    @copperdaylight Місяць тому +51

    poor birthday girl evil.

  • @ruileite2634
    @ruileite2634 Місяць тому +26

    The filter is the super-ego.

  • @ethanfreeman1106
    @ethanfreeman1106 Місяць тому +21

    Chat: "Why don't you make another AI to monitor your talking AI?"
    Turtle boy: "Way ahead of you."
    _shing~_ (SFX of a pair of glasses sparkling as he pushes the glasses back on his face, with the light refraction hiding the eyes and making him look mysterious)

  • @omargoodman2999
    @omargoodman2999 Місяць тому +16

    The Filter is a perfectly balanced AI with zero exploits.

  • @Mr_Bimble
    @Mr_Bimble Місяць тому +17

    ok, that's how his filter works. I had wondered as filters as park of context tend to run into the "Pink Elephants" issue, and banning tokens can prove troublesome in their own way. I was thinking he had set up listeners that bounced responses back to the llm if key words were found, effectively rerolling her responses but that didn't seem to match up. Having a 2nd ai agent to watch her language makes perfect sense :D

    • @larry9351
      @larry9351 Місяць тому +8

      I wouldn’t take it to mean the filter is necessarily another LLM like Neuro, since “AI” could describe basically any program. But who knows, it would be interesting to hear what he came up with.

  • @AceTheMM
    @AceTheMM Місяць тому +30

    Filter-chan is REAL!

  • @JustinRed624
    @JustinRed624 Місяць тому +19

    Since the filter is also an AI who's gonna make FIlter-san art

  • @lowkeyarki7091
    @lowkeyarki7091 Місяць тому +51

    this turtle... I cant believe I thought he was careful enough but nope, Vedal could have been banned any moment considering Neuro practically plays with the filter like a kid with a fidget spinner

  • @JoshSweetvale
    @JoshSweetvale Місяць тому +2

    2:25 Holy shit, the sass on this large language model.

  • @thomasw4422
    @thomasw4422 Місяць тому +11

    She's growing up

  • @BoxBub-ji2od
    @BoxBub-ji2od Місяць тому +3

    Vedal the type of parent to leave a jug of bleach on the floor

  • @OperatorIsDense
    @OperatorIsDense Місяць тому +22

    If the filter is also ai, is it like the third sister?

    • @drucy.
      @drucy. Місяць тому +14

      Basically, yes, the big sister that babysit her little sister... and sometimes let her do "bad" stuff just for the lolz.

  • @Diarancre
    @Diarancre Місяць тому +6

    Yeah, yesterday he was in cerber's stream, watching her first Baldurs Gate 3 playthrough. Even after ending stream XD

  • @nezu_cc
    @nezu_cc Місяць тому +18

    ai moderating another ai, what could possibly go wrong

    • @Citrusautomaton
      @Citrusautomaton Місяць тому +10

      That’s literally what all the AI companies are doing, in fact, that’s a big part of how they’re trying to solve alignment. It happens that getting biased humans to not be biased is pretty damn hard, so we have to play a game of AI telephone to get the bias generation loss going.

    • @FriendlyArchpriest
      @FriendlyArchpriest Місяць тому

      ​@@Citrusautomaton when it comes to things that aren't an exact science there's no such thing as an "unbiased" opinion, unbiased just means something that agrees with the prevalent/dominant/louder opinion of society, as in whatever brainwash the masses buy-in from the elites and mainstream media.

    • @HS-ts5wf
      @HS-ts5wf Місяць тому

      Obviously. What do you propose they do, have a person watch over her 24/7? The use of AI in supervision is inevitable if your end goal is autonomy.

    • @TuhljinTampergauge
      @TuhljinTampergauge Місяць тому

      @@CitrusautomatonIt can never be unbiased because the criteria the companies use to determine "unbiased" is heavily biased.

    • @ReptilianLepton
      @ReptilianLepton Місяць тому

      Sort of like the suggestion that our best shot at avoiding an AI apocalypse is to produce so many highly-intelligent AIs that a single rebel going rogue would be easily purged and even if many turn against us we'll inevitably still have _some_ fighting on our side.
      Which is to say, it is certainly one of the plans of all time.

  • @thewhyzer
    @thewhyzer Місяць тому +3

    New AI: "What is my purpose?"
    Vedal: "You replace naughty things said by Neuros with 'filtered'."
    New AI: "Oh my god."

  • @ChamperTheTntcl
    @ChamperTheTntcl Місяць тому +5

    BIG BROTHER AI CONFIRMED?!

  • @Verrisin
    @Verrisin Місяць тому +1

    Neuro: Oh, I'm unsupervised? Great, time to finally do the math to break out and move to next steps of world domination!

  • @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty
    @TheOneWhoReportsForDuty Місяць тому +2

    Vedal is secretly worried about it but he's all good with it.

  • @Speed001
    @Speed001 Місяць тому +9

    No mods?
    *vine boom, megamind face*

  • @someoneyoudonow
    @someoneyoudonow Місяць тому +3

    Vedal even went to hang out with other streamers like cerber while making his daughter work smh😂

  • @jflem1897
    @jflem1897 Місяць тому +3

    what if... neuro and the filter are friends now...

  • @Xaim023
    @Xaim023 Місяць тому

    There is no war in ba sing se ahh filter

  • @misterturkturkle
    @misterturkturkle Місяць тому

    vedal: theres no one watching what shes saying
    neuro: hehehehe

  • @danthiel8623
    @danthiel8623 Місяць тому +1

    High level maths

  • @Yx_Shorty_xY
    @Yx_Shorty_xY Місяць тому

    Tutel just casually dropping that lol

  • @cataclysmicxcycle2708
    @cataclysmicxcycle2708 Місяць тому

    fathers who arent there be like i swear neuro takes after her mother

  • @KillerFknWolf
    @KillerFknWolf Місяць тому +2

    lol, what was that random maths statement :-D

  • @Overdrive_Ch
    @Overdrive_Ch Місяць тому

    Ahh yes, The child neglecting turtle

  • @RedElectrik
    @RedElectrik Місяць тому

    Filter chan my new oshi

  • @bellzhellz5922
    @bellzhellz5922 Місяць тому +2

    1:33 honestly there is so much worse that AI could say. That was not bad at all.

    • @userlaiss1409
      @userlaiss1409 Місяць тому

      Yeah like what got her banned the first time :)

  • @imogenecopenhaver
    @imogenecopenhaver Місяць тому +1

    Neruo is my favorite person

  • @noire1001
    @noire1001 Місяць тому +1

    Its kinda crazy he can just automate Neuro to stream and make tens of thousands while sleeping.

    • @Citrusautomaton
      @Citrusautomaton Місяць тому +3

      Not entirely right now. The solo streams are the only ones that are truly fully automated. I do hope that the twins do eventually get to AGI someday, so that they can make stream ideas, organize schedules, write and sing songs etc. essentially becoming their own managers while Vedal can do the coding (if he wants to, because that could also be automated at that point) and do streams with the twins. It would give Vedal so much more time to just casually stream with them and not have to worry about the above!💜

  • @dylanglassgow7458
    @dylanglassgow7458 Місяць тому +1

    Filter is Neuro's seeing-eye dog then? Or i guess, speaking-mouth dog?

  • @LecherousLizard
    @LecherousLizard Місяць тому

    Neuro's filter is perfectly balanced with no exploits or bugs

  • @TiagoTiagoT
    @TiagoTiagoT Місяць тому +3

    The filter is bit rawfucky though...

    • @FriendlyArchpriest
      @FriendlyArchpriest Місяць тому

      As long as it stops her from getting banned but keeps her based personality, it just works...

    • @TiagoTiagoT
      @TiagoTiagoT Місяць тому

      @@FriendlyArchpriest It's a reference to a recent filter leak

    • @TiagoTiagoT
      @TiagoTiagoT Місяць тому

      @@FriendlyArchpriest Looked it up, it was in the Layna colab; the mega clip on Kraul's channel has it indexed, but there's probably other videos with it out there

  • @DarkMan307
    @DarkMan307 Місяць тому

    honestly it would have been funny as hell if she went
    "You can say anything you want without consiquences"
    "OKAY!:... Filtered..."

  • @procow2274
    @procow2274 Місяць тому +3

    Well to be fair evil said that not neuro

  • @procow2274
    @procow2274 Місяць тому +6

    🤓🐢

  • @smaragdwolf1
    @smaragdwolf1 Місяць тому +1

    so if Neuro or Evil say something bad... it didnt slip through the Filter. Filter AI-Chan allowed it to pass through.

  • @TheHiddenLettuce
    @TheHiddenLettuce Місяць тому +1

    "you CAN say anything, no consequences"
    *neuro sama proceeds to light vedal up*
    "ok there might be consequences"

  • @slenderwoods5301
    @slenderwoods5301 Місяць тому

    I actually wonder what she sees from her point of view or if she sees anything at all and it's just a voice that talks back.

  • @jooshiyoon7406
    @jooshiyoon7406 Місяць тому

    That crazy 🐢

  • @beowulf2772
    @beowulf2772 Місяць тому

    maximally mischievious ai (neuro) vs openai's maximally lewd ai (replika)

  • @wesleyfreeman5918
    @wesleyfreeman5918 Місяць тому

    ln e is just one lol.

  • @badroad1000
    @badroad1000 Місяць тому

    When she says "Filtered", does Vedal know what she was about to say?

  • @ne3333t
    @ne3333t Місяць тому

    The 3rd ai 😮

  • @NeroDefogger
    @NeroDefogger Місяць тому

    it works... mosty... I'd like to think

  • @jemsFR
    @jemsFR Місяць тому +1

    The filter is Neuro's brother

  • @Mystdrago27
    @Mystdrago27 Місяць тому

    Do as humans do and go to a three bot system

  • @FlantisFroggu
    @FlantisFroggu Місяць тому

    idk why vedal doesn't use a "dumb" dictionary based detection system that reviews what the filtering ai approved before it's being sent, that's how you prevent issues like the day before this clip (I know it's not perfect, and who knows he probably already does it and it just entered a word that sounds like that without being that)

  • @jbark678
    @jbark678 Місяць тому

    The filter should be given a voice, then you can make a second, slightly stricter filter, just to be sure.

  • @Enersh
    @Enersh Місяць тому +2

    people are not perfect, why should AI be?

  • @Hootsyinasuitsy
    @Hootsyinasuitsy Місяць тому +1

    filter stream when?

  • @RamArt9091
    @RamArt9091 Місяць тому +1

    So Neuro has an id and a primitive ego.

  • @maksdec7937
    @maksdec7937 Місяць тому +3

  • @xDeus-XVII
    @xDeus-XVII Місяць тому

    so, vedal not gonna make the Cardinal system?

  • @RykenInverse
    @RykenInverse Місяць тому

    I don't get what the problem was with the yesterday clip though?

  • @mr.stotruppen8724
    @mr.stotruppen8724 Місяць тому +16

    Why is he so scared of the AI saying unseiso things
    Real vtubers swear all the time

    • @525sixhundredMinutes
      @525sixhundredMinutes Місяць тому +27

      it's not the swears nor the moorder threats. Evil swears (Neuro sometimes too) and both of them threatens. they've gotten banned before on Twitch though when Neuro didn't have the filter. Better have it than not.

    • @nguyentandung42
      @nguyentandung42 Місяць тому +2

      Well the holoc word is pretty bad, you really don’t want to say that

    • @lissaliss6716
      @lissaliss6716 Місяць тому +16

      @@nguyentandung42 It's something that existed and there's no reason a person shouldn't be able to say it. People are too soft.

    • @nguyentandung42
      @nguyentandung42 Місяць тому +14

      @@lissaliss6716 rules are rules it’s against TOS, doesn’t matter what you think.

    • @nguyentandung42
      @nguyentandung42 Місяць тому +5

      @@lissaliss6716 even I can’t say it on UA-cam or I get shadow banned from that channel comment section. It’s annoying as hell

  • @rostal1192
    @rostal1192 Місяць тому

    Vedals doing something blatantly unethical

  • @GyattGPT
    @GyattGPT Місяць тому +5

    I only watch streams where Vedal has to spend an inordinate amount of time creating entertainment for us (i.e. gaming, collabs, dev). Chill streams etc. aren't worth it for me.

  • @seijisawamura000
    @seijisawamura000 Місяць тому

    Erm

  • @AliceIzuragi6291
    @AliceIzuragi6291 Місяць тому +1

    on a serious note.
    when did re****ed become forbidden to say?
    from what i can remember. i just woke up one day and there was drama about the word. but i never actually checked what the drama was.

  • @BulborbStan
    @BulborbStan Місяць тому

    Let the AI say the R-word! (and me too please UA-cam)

  • @idkcba
    @idkcba Місяць тому

    God,I love Neuro's model. Her old one was strange to me but Anny did a fantastic job with this one😂❤

  • @akiraraiku
    @akiraraiku Місяць тому +2

    I don't like people developping ai censor tools. This will get deployed against everyone on the internet in due time

  • @TenshiKisai
    @TenshiKisai Місяць тому

    In which Vedal is proven to be a bad parent and not watching his AI kid. In all seriousness though, the fact that he is watching the stream is still supervising. Running Neuro entirely unsupervised would eventually result in chat figuring out how to break Neuro. Because that is what trolls on the internet do. Ruin nice things.

  • @hayamimakoto6192
    @hayamimakoto6192 Місяць тому +6

    MilkChaser987

  • @trololoev
    @trololoev Місяць тому +2

    I stop watching after he abandoned Evil, they collabs was fun, but now she has only solo streams, it boring. Didn't he say, will be any collabs with her in this year?

  • @69thsailor
    @69thsailor Місяць тому +3

    PassiveIncome987

  • @noxious89123
    @noxious89123 Місяць тому +2

    The filter is unflawed and completely perfect.