Athens vs Sparta: Deep Thinkers vs Military Might?

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  • @WorldHistoryEncyclopedia
    @WorldHistoryEncyclopedia  4 роки тому +13

    Athens vs Sparta, which city would you have chosen to live in and why? Let us know in the comments below!

    • @MultiCappie
      @MultiCappie 3 роки тому

      When Epicurus opened his "garden" (school, basically) in Athens, he admitted women. I would rather live as an Epicurean in Athens any day.

    • @itsrosysky2413
      @itsrosysky2413 3 роки тому +1

      Athens!

    • @Σοβαρευτείτε
      @Σοβαρευτείτε 2 роки тому

      In Constantinople a pure Greek city, when it's liberated and given back to Greece.

  • @sophiaroth1930
    @sophiaroth1930 4 роки тому +20

    Thank you. This was exactly the information I needed for my school work.

    • @WorldHistoryEncyclopedia
      @WorldHistoryEncyclopedia  4 роки тому +6

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @isamkamel
      @isamkamel 4 місяці тому

      She excluded the self destructing mindset of Sparta which had some relevant diciplines was acted full af hate and aggression against all neighbours with savage brutality derived from their divine indoctrination that they were the chosen people and therefore it justifies to enslave others...

  • @miwa5606
    @miwa5606 3 роки тому +9

    Thank you! Saved me for my history exam :) Exactly what i was looking for

  • @philipsullivan4885
    @philipsullivan4885 4 роки тому +15

    I'd live in Athens. I'm more for learning than fighting.

    • @WildcatArts
      @WildcatArts 4 роки тому +1

      Same, though I would at least try to understand self defense. Do you think they had conceal-and-carry for a sword?

    • @StarRider253
      @StarRider253 3 роки тому +1

      You'd still have to fight

  • @xenipavannardino4286
    @xenipavannardino4286 3 роки тому +9

    Honestly, as a girl, I'd want to live in a little of both. I'd do the Spartan military training, but maybe disguise myself as a boy to attend Athenian school, so that I could learn all the philosophy and literature. Then I'd go back to Sparta and live my life.

    • @aheartoflovecanneverbedefe4596
      @aheartoflovecanneverbedefe4596 2 роки тому +1

      That's pretty much interesting as I would be interested in both as well... Yeah! Use military skills to stay invisible yet visible and use my persuasive skills, learned at Athenian school, to talk my way through awkward encounters.

  • @beatricehamstein5716
    @beatricehamstein5716 Рік тому +1

    I love your channel! I have adhd and studying for an ancient greek exam writing is really hard but this channel has helped me SO MUCH. Amazing work!!

  • @nitikadwivedi1973
    @nitikadwivedi1973 3 роки тому +2

    Very well explained.Thankyou.

  • @MichaelJohnson-ik9vi
    @MichaelJohnson-ik9vi 4 роки тому +20

    They both had both good and bad things about them both. But if I had to choose it would be Athens.

  • @spartanparty3894
    @spartanparty3894 4 роки тому +24

    I would live in neither, Athens was nationalistic and arrogant in a poisonous manner, Sparta had more equality but was much more brutal. I was born with scarred lungs and a heart murmur, I would have been thrown out as a baby though I'm fit and athletic now Sparta would not have given me the chance to develop.

    • @StarRider253
      @StarRider253 3 роки тому

      A society where 75%+ of the population are enslaved is not "more equality"

    • @spartanparty3894
      @spartanparty3894 3 роки тому +1

      @@StarRider253 It is, because unfortunately Athens had the same issue. When Athens was disgusted by Sparta's slaves, it was because they were Greek, not because they were slaves. Furthermore, Athens was much more imperialistic, and completely annihilated cities enslaving the women and children.
      Both cultures are immoral and have evil elements, hence my answer.

    • @StarRider253
      @StarRider253 3 роки тому

      @@spartanparty3894 That's definitely correct but I just took issue with Sparta being described as more equal. For women, perhaps, but in general no. They were both slavery societies like you described. I'm not super familiar with Athenian slavery but didn't they have greek slaves as well? I know the Helots in Sparta were greek

    • @spartanparty3894
      @spartanparty3894 3 роки тому

      @@StarRider253 They had Greek slaves through war, instead of a steady population of locals like with the Spartans.

  • @roy00kk
    @roy00kk 3 роки тому +4

    It would be great if a kid were with an Athenian father and a Spartan mother living in Kefalonia.

  • @findlaynicol9697
    @findlaynicol9697 4 роки тому +1

    Good clear introduction to them both.

  • @sergeflores560
    @sergeflores560 3 роки тому +1

    Being a father of three beautiful daughters and advocating the breaking of the glass ceiling in the corporate world; Sparta for me no doubt.

  • @MultiCappie
    @MultiCappie 3 роки тому +1

    When Epicurus opened his "garden" (school, basically) in Athens, he admitted women. I would rather live as an Epicurean in Athens any day.

  • @inno3
    @inno3 4 роки тому +1

    Good lecture, but why dont you include short movie to emulate the life in both sparta and athens

    • @trinityy7035
      @trinityy7035 4 роки тому

      @Zahid Wazir I- come down Jamal don’t pull out the 9

  • @gmicg
    @gmicg 2 роки тому

    In Sparta, girls were regularly defeat boys in wrestling. The girls wrestled topless and were wearing during the matches a tiny leather skirt but the boys were completely naked. (Pausanias)

  • @avichaigrafstein9787
    @avichaigrafstein9787 4 роки тому

    I think I would have lived in Sparta.
    Thank you for the video.

  • @SIPHEMVINJELWA02
    @SIPHEMVINJELWA02 4 місяці тому

    A man would obviously choose to live in Athens because the system there favors him like the democracy, and a woman would obviously choose to live in Sparta because the system there favors her.

  • @mjd4287
    @mjd4287 3 роки тому

    Ok I'd want to live in Athens but only if it had extra military backup by an ally of some sort

  • @js.3490
    @js.3490 Рік тому +1

    Athens had some good ideas.

  • @gmicg
    @gmicg 2 роки тому

    Comparing Sparta and Athens, Plato said that any society that doesn't give the same rights and opportunities to both genders deprives itself of half of its members.

  • @PrincessAuguste
    @PrincessAuguste 4 роки тому +8

    Sparta cuz I will have more rights as a woman

  • @matthewtom905
    @matthewtom905 4 роки тому +5

    IDC

  • @isamkamel
    @isamkamel 4 місяці тому

    Why do you exclude the self destructing humanity hating mindset of Sparta?

  • @samuelgomes7395
    @samuelgomes7395 3 роки тому

    Coloca legenda em português ( Brasil ), gosto do seu conteúdo, mas não entendo nada, porquê não falo inglês. 😪

  • @ifanmaulanaali6283
    @ifanmaulanaali6283 Рік тому

    Spartaaa❤❤❤❤

  • @dantae666
    @dantae666 3 роки тому +1

    Sparta its were the best looking women were

  • @kaykay865
    @kaykay865 Рік тому

    Spartans were thinkers too
    Read plutarch or xenoophon

  • @georged2745
    @georged2745 3 роки тому +1

    Ugh how she says Ekklesia is somewhat annoying. Lol. Being Greek n knowing how it's really pronounced. But I don't fault her because learning Greek is most definitely one of the hardest languages to learn. Shit I can't really speak it myself but I understand it more then I can speak it. It pronounced Eh-Cla-Sia.

  • @goodtry1005
    @goodtry1005 7 місяців тому

    04-03-2024

  • @gyeppmester
    @gyeppmester 2 роки тому

    women ruled in Sparta not kings ! women has wealth and power in Sparta If you are man your main focus war all important things done by women

  • @aadil7302
    @aadil7302 3 роки тому

    Athens ..

  • @mesolithicman164
    @mesolithicman164 2 роки тому

    It makes sense that in a world controlled by war, the people that do the fighting - and dying- to protect their land, get the right to make the rules.

    • @jasonworks1454
      @jasonworks1454 2 роки тому +1

      Everyone does the dying in a world controlled by war. We all die, and the starved out ones that didn't steal as well probably would have contributed more to society then the more kleptoparasitic by nature. the kleptoparasitic would thrive in certain niches, but that's not a reason for them to make rules.