Spike is one of the few people who can make Buffy cry and laugh at the same time in the end Spike is Buffy has such a strong connection with each other
@@williamh2607 Soulless Spike could never have a good relationship with buffy or anyone Even if he tried without a soul he would always be a monster in the end so for the love of buffy He risked everything to be a better man
@@ervylondawid7620 well said! I think Spike's love for Buffy evolves as he evolves ... from the love of a demon to the love of a real man ... and Buffy understands this, that's why she loves him too truly and deeply ... Spuffy is a real couple, a couple who have been together all their lives
Spike is one of the few people who can make Buffy cry and laugh at the same time in the end Spike is Buffy has such a strong connection with each other
I don't think I agree 100%. Because when Spike dies, she still has to be a vampire slayer. It's not because of Spike that she's not the only vampire slayer anymore. Willow did that, unleashing the power of the scythe seconds before the final battle. Spike did step up and sacrifice himself, you're right. Without that necklace he wore, Buffy and the rest may have died in the fight or soon enough after. But I don't think he did it *because* she didn't want to be the one. He did it because he loved her.
"When I say I love you, it's not because I want you, or can't have you. It has nothing to do with me, I love what you are, how you try." I cry every time T.T
Spike has always been the best in words and gestures ... in fact he tells her words of true and deep love (Angel never could) and then he dies to save Buffy (reminds me a little of the musical episode when He stops her as she starts to burn and he tells her she has to go on living so one of them is living) and the world ... more hero and champion than that....
I truly feel that the reason this is so powerful is the line, “And I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You’re a hell of a woman.” He doesn’t define her as the chosen one or the slayer. Her strength and how she tries is not because of her abilities or her responsibilities but who she is as a person. It’s such a sharp contrast to the earlier parts of the episode where all of her friends and the potentials see her only as the slayer.
Right?! I feel like, out of all their moments, this one was absolutley the BEST one! Especially Spike's whole speech to her, rallying around her in order to make her feel better and just how well he truly understands her better than anyone else: it's so moving! ❤❤❤
Notice this: the entire season 7, they NEVER had sex, NEVER kissed. And yet, they seem more compatible and have more chemistry than the entirety of their season 6 sexathon. Speaks VOLUMES.
@@manuelcorrea2365 Exactly! The debate is always fun to have. Buffy and Angel or Buffy and Spike (I don't think anyone ever takes Buffy and Riley as a serious contender). But, I'll never be able to get onboard with the Buffy and Angel team. I get that Angel is her first love, and she'll always have that deep feeling for him, but from the Angel side of the relationship... Angel loses his soul and becomes Angelus, a monster who torments her, and enjoys it. That is who Angel is without the guardrails of a soul. Spike, without a soul, falls for Buffy. Everything he says in this clip isn't because he has a soul. He got the soul because he felt this way without it and wanted to be "worthy" of being with her. Or however he rationalized it to himself.
I love that spike loved buffy so much, even without a soul, that he went and endured torture to earn one. he loved her that much. angel was a soulless monster without his soul - no humanity and his soul was thrust upon him.
Not to sound like a prude, but I find it interesting that while several other couples (or just two people getting together in Faith and Robin's case) have sex in this episode, a couple that for the most part have been fighting or having sex as part of their physical relationship, can just be there in the moment and take comfort from just being close to each other. I think it's beautiful
You’re not a prude. It’s beyond beautiful. It’s true intimacy. You realized that for Spike and Buffy, especially with their past, having the night they had was the most profound thing they could share. It was a thousand times deeper than sex. I wanted so badly for them to at least kiss in S7, and now when I re-watch, I realize that focusing just on their eyes and how they are acting with their expressions, we got so much more than a kiss. We got a deep loving relationship.
@@steffnic13 this is one of the reasons I loved season 7. Buffy and Spike's relationship became what it was meant to be. They understood each other more than most people will ever understand another. That is why, I believe, Buffy was able to bring herself to leave him in the final episode. She knew it was something he HAD to do. That to do otherwise would make him less of a person, so to speak.
I don't think it's prudish. It's complex storytelling. When the world is ending (again), some people reach for the disposable comfort of the new and temporary. Some reach for deeper and more lasting, and more rooted affection. That's knowing that different people will react differently to the same circumstances and that enriches the story. A study in contrasts.
Sometimes, just having someone, ANYONE, tell you they love you without asking for anything in return can heal so many hurts. Or at least begin to. Shit, Buffy saved the world over and over again, knowing she’d never truly be recognized for it. To have someone tell her she added to their lives just by being in it-not because they needed her to save them-must have been a relief and a half.
But Buffy was recognized for what she did. Over and over again. 'She saved the world. A lot' is on her tombstone. She's not supposed to have friends as the Slayer, but she does and they constantly show her how great she and her cause is by giving up their lives to her service. They also love her just for who she is and not just because she saves them: they are fighters alongside her who frequently save Buffy as well, not dependent victims. Giles tells her what a great Slayer she is and is so proud of her. Her long list of successes validate her whether anyone else sees them or not; she has to know from that her life has worth and meaning and purposeful effect. She wins 'Class Protector' and her entire graduating class fights the Mayor with her. Buffy may well have felt lonely because no one (except Kendra/Faith at first, Angel, Spike, and to some extent Riley) shared her fighting responsibility. But it didn't make sense to me for her to feel unacknowledged. Everything she did was acknowledged as being special. 'One girl in all the world. She is the Slayer.' That's a heck of a recognition if you ask me! Not that romantic recognition like Spike's isn't always nice as well.
@@cmm5542 Yes but just before this scene, she’d been thrown out of her own house by the sister she’d died to save, the friends that had fought by her side and all the potentials. Anya said that she didn’t choose her powers she just got lucky- she’d died to save the world twice and even though a new slayer had been called in Kendra then Faith, she chose to continue fighting even though her job was done, she’d sent Angel to a hell dimension, she’d risked her life constantly only to be repaid by her friends turning their backs on her. I don’t think anyone really recognised everything she’d risked and sacrificed for everyone constantly except Spike, she didn’t even get an apology.
Spike reminding the viewer that in life he was a poet. Despite what the people in his time thought of his poetry the man knows how to string words along
I find it fitting how William was always made fun of for how bad his poetry was, and his writing did nothing but push away the girl he loved. But in this scene, Spike gives an eloquent speech to the girl he loves, well-spoken enough that I would consider it poetry, and it helps her and convinces her to want him to stay.
Spike is one of the few people who can make Buffy cry and laugh at the same time in the end Spike is Buffy has such a strong connection with each other
Spike is one of the few people who can make Buffy cry and laugh at the same time in the end Spike is Buffy has such a strong connection with each other
The most beautiful aspect of all this, is that while everyone else in this Episode is being Touched literally, Spike Touched Buffy's Heart and Soul. That they both went beyond that need of physical intimacy that we see the other characters partaking in, and instead just two beautiful souls holing one another instead due to a soul intimacy instead.
Anyone who watched this scene and could still somehow be on team Angel is beyond help. This episode solidified Spike as one of my all-time favorite TV characters. Epic stuff.
The speech that really solidified it for me was where she found out he had a soul. I know some fans have problems with this season but there's a reason why it's my second favorite (season 5 being the first) and it is ALL to do with the development of Spike's and Buffy's relationship and I'm not talking about the romantic side. They developed so much understanding for each other in this season, I know people like Giles and Xander thought it was because they had feelings for each other but that wasn't it at all (not that they didn't have feelings for each other, they did, but the understanding went beyond that). They knew each other inside and out and were not so much blinded to the other's faults but able to look past them so they could help each other in ways the other people in the story would never have thought of and also help the other become the person they truly wanted to be but couldn't have made it on their own. Without Spike no one would have made it to the final battle. If nothing else, Buffy would probably have given up after they kicked her out and Faith and the others with her would have died in their quest leaving the few potentials at the house vulnerable to attack and easy pickings.
Spike is the best character. But that doesn't make Spuffy the best relationship. She treated Angel better than she did Spike; that's my reason. Just because Spike was tough enough to take Buffy's combined scorn and neediness after a century with Drusilla doesn't mean he didn't deserve better than that. Buffy cared for Angel as much as he did her; that is a necessary foundation for any good, healthy adult relationship. Even if Buffy and Angel could never work out, Buffy should have applied those same principles to a relationship that could have worked for her, which is not what she did for Spike. She just used him. Even in this scene he's just taking care of her needs; Buffy's not even aware Spike also has needs to be taken care of! (Willow was, though. And Joyce, and Dawn, and even Anya.)
@@cmm5542 I definitely agree! I don't like the Team Angel or Team Spike stuff because we're talking about a relationship. Spike is by far my favorite character, and I wish that Spuffy could be real, but in the universe of the show we were given I don't think it should be (at least not without a lot of work, therapy, personal growth, etc). A lot of people take this to mean that I like Angel more than Spike but really it just means I care about Spike enough that I don't want to push a relationship onto him that would be unfair, unhealthy, and one-sided. Buffy needs to see Spike as an equal person first, not someone to use because they're willing to sacrifice everything for her.
@@achicken21 Absolutely. I frequently like characters separately but not ship them; and it can be very difficult to explain to people! 'Yes, so-and-so is a GREAT character, but I don't think he/she would be happy with such-and-such. No, that doesn't mean I don't like such-and-such! I love them too, just not TOGETHER . . .' Sigh. Glad we share the same view! Have a nice day 🙂
Every single time I hear this speech I always think back to the episode School Hard, when Spike was first introduced. He wanted nothing more than to kill Buffy and he ends up becoming was of her greatest allies. The transition was amazing. It worked out so well.
Funny thing is - from what I heard - Spike was supposed to last three or four episodes max. He just delivered his lines so well - the fans wouldn't let him go.
I always forget the moments where she does explain to him, as clearly as she can make sense of her feelings and fears, and you see the little facial expression on both James’ and Sarah’s faces that speak volumes about how their characters feel towards each other. You see the “omg you’re actually admitting you don’t let people in” look on Spike’s face as Buffy talks about how the Slayer made her different
Spike is one of the few people who can make Buffy cry and laugh at the same time in the end Spike is Buffy has such a strong connection with each other
Yeah. All of S7 is eyes and expressions between them. They speak volumes with their eyes. You have to watch it so closely. But you get such beauty from it. His eyes when she comes for him in the cave, as well as hers in response. Their eyes spoke of deep love and respect for each other.
Some of the greatest writing ever . Whomever found it in there soul to put these words to page felt something so deep for someone they had to write this . I thank them!
Spike is hot as hell, with an ancient, poetic soul that got lost along the way. In his pure vampire form, he lost his soul and did terrible things. And still being a monster, for Buffy, he went after his lost soul. Having that human part back, he felt the weight of each evil act and entered into reflective conflict. Spike missed a lot! However, he was the only one who could see the true essence of Buffy. These two together have undeniable chemistry and admirable companionship. It's a shame that soulmates don't usually stay together.
For me this scene and the one in the church, when Spike tells Buffy that he got his soul back! They are some of the best! God what beautiful scenes! 😍 they made me cry
Season 7 is so flush with beautiful moments between them that you will miss if you don’t look closely enough. A glance. Their eyes. All of it. This scene and when he tells her that night was the next night of his life will go down in history. This man was never Angelis level of evil on his worst day. He had compassion for her no matter what.
While it IS a love confession. The clothes, the way Spike kneels makes him look like a Knight (A Black Knight) and I think it is not coincidence Buffy wears withe (A white Lady) I say he means it when he tells her that he loves her but does not expect nothing in return. It is what a Knight would tell his Lady to offer unconditional love. And Spike HAS been Buffy's Knight this season.
Well, this scene is really very beautiful and sensual.. And in general they behave differently throughout the 7th season. And before they had a rather wrong, I would say dirty relationship.. Perhaps it was in Spike’s soul.. Therefore, I can understand those who do not accept this couple, to be honest
i’ve seen your kindness and your strength. i’ve seen the best and worst of you. and i understand with perfect clarity what you are. ✨you’re the one, buffy✨
I met James Marsters on my 16th birthday at a Buffy Con and he was SO nice! I was last in line for a meet and greet and I asked him to signed my shirt and he knelt down infront of me, put one hand oh my stomach and signed my shirt. Best birthday ever!
I've seen this first when I was 14. Many times more. I had VHS with this episode. I shipped Spuffy for years. I rewatched it probably until I was 21. I haven't seen this episode for years now - I'm 30. I rewatched the whole TV show and got to this point. I cried like a baby yesterday even though I remember every single line. I rewatched it today, and still crying. This is way deeper than I could understand when I was 14 or 20. You have to go through many levels of self-acceptance, admitting you're closed off for people and so on, and learn to love yourself to watch the pure beauty of this scene years later. Understand how much more this scene is. And also Buffy - Buffy is such a heroine that there is no other. In the end of every episode of this show I wanted to hug Buffy because I don't want her to suffer anymore and because she's such a good person. And this scene, now, was like the epitome of that feeling. It's like me, a viewer, telling Buffy that she's the one. She is the best damn personality on the TV screen. And through her you can also see how you grow over years. This is amazing. This show is so much more than anything in the world ever created.
Spike is one of the few people who can make Buffy cry and laugh at the same time in the end Spike is Buffy has such a strong connection with each other
same here, ive watched them too at around age 14,i loooved that show,all recorded on vhs ..good old days. i havent seen buffy ever since, now 33 and came across a buffy video.now i might rewatch buffy again
completely agree with you! Buffy is a heroine and has the weight of the world on her shoulders, her friends are waiting for her to work out everything and She always has to be perfect, in the end they turn their backs on her because she has to make unpopular decisions; Angel is her first love (no one can deny it), but he doesn't let her free to be herself, he controls her, finally he leaves her because he's selfish. Spike at the beginning hates her, then he loves her (just before the chip, Drusilla says it clearly "I knew before you did, I knew you loved the slayer") and this love changes how Spike changes, first it is selfish because he has no soul, then it's based on trust, strength, depth .... Spike is the only one who really knows Buffy and vice versa
I always get a little tear at this scene. Beautifully done. For all the big overblown action scenes and fighting this show does the delicate understated stuff like this better than most ‘regular’ shows. Spike was a very easy character to overcook, overplay and spoil but JM’s portrayal is just perfect. One of the very best characters ever on any screen ever IMO. It’s all still as good in 2022 as it was 25 years ago.
I love the spike and buffy moments they culdve done so much more with it unlike with angel spike actually takes responsibility for all the things hes done.
She could lose her powers, she could have never have had them - but who she is draws Spike in. As a vampire he operated like an animal and still did a damn good job for the most part keeping himself in check. Those were real tears falling from his face when she died. But he hated himself to understand without a soul he will always end up treating Buffy wrong, so he was willing to die to get one because he couldn't be around her anymore without it.
Ya know, a lot of people really dont like season 7 as a whole, but any fan has gotta admit that it has some of the best individual scenes of the entire series. This being one of them.
"Oh, you say the word, and she's a footnote in history. I'll make it look like a painful accident." If anyone needs (any more) evidence that Spike could kill Faith if he'd wanted to, there ya go.
Im not asking you for anything. When I say I love you, it's not because I want you, or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me! I love what you are, what you do, how you try!
He made her cry, he made her feel and and he made her laugh all in one breath this is what true love looks like, you can physically see how he tore her wall down that kept up this cold exterior the moment he said “I love you, I love what you are”. 🥹
It's been obvious for a long time that they both love and protect each other. They communicate with each other everything they can't tell anyone else. It's a beautiful relationship.
Spike stood by Buffy when his friends turned their backs on her. I like the direction they eventually chose to have Spike regain his soul for the sake of Buffy &/or his relationship with her. He eventually gave his life for her sake and for the sake of her mission. No girl could ask for anything more from a man.
I will always love these two. Seeing this still warms my heart. Takes me back to my highschool years where me and my friend would bicker over team Angel or team Spike. Which for me, i've always been team Spike. ❤
I always thought the amulet was meant to be worn by Buffy because its someone who's more than human who has a soul and when Buffy stepped through a portal the first slayer was a regular girl who got demons put in her to fight demons, wouldn't that make Buffy more than human?
"I'm not asking you for anything" is perhaps the most pure way to offer someone affection and words of affirmation. I mean truly, how relatable is it to be praised by a partner as a form of manipulation or a way to fish for their own validation? It's nice to see Spike sees that here, especially given his history with Buffy and what he did to her. I think having a soul was the first time he could ever realize he literally wasn't capable of love before, he only "loved" Buffy like a trophy, like a possession. And the only reason he went for a soul was because she didn't want him, not because it was "right." But here we see the end of that journey; the shame and subsequent self-improvement that happened. It's like watching someone graduate therapy!
And in return of constantly trying to change and be a better person, he got what? The loss of his girlfriend Drusilla? Alienated from the entire demon world? Relentlessly insulted and antagonized by Buffy and her peers? Mixed signals from Buffy for 3 straight seasons? A meaningless "I love you" that he didn't even believe before he died? If the message of the show is to teach people to better themselves purely because it's the right thing to do, they shouldn't make the "improving person" lose everything and gain nothing. It makes the message fall flat.
Before any of that, he had killed people. He had lied, cheated. He had done a lot of terrible things. Look, I’m Spike’s fan, and am all for his redemption arc. And this is it. His redemption. He didn’t die and lose everything, you don’t get it at all. At the last moments of his life, he understood that he was wrong. And he was happy that he understood that. There is peace when you understand what you did wrong and peace in knowing that maybe you are doing your best to make up for it. You don’t get how at the last possible moments of his life here (even if Spike appears again in Angel’s show) that he was in love. He truly understands a lot of things he didn’t when he didn’t have a soul. Now, he is grateful for it even if in the end he dies. And no, he didn’t lose everything, he slowly gained Dawn and Buffy’s trust again, and they love him for it. Maybe not everyone’s and certainly not everyone stands up and claps for his achievements but hardly that would happen for every little good thing you do in your life. If you expect there would be celebration, people clapping every time you do good stuff, then it would make your life miserable indeed. You would keep asking why no one appreciates you, why no one cares, when maybe they do, but you just look at it from the wrong angle. Sometimes the world isn’t fair to people who try to get up after getting down, but you could choose. You could choose to dwell on the unfairness of it all, or make up for what you did was wrong and gain people’s trust again. That’s possible, doable. But not everyone has strength to do it. Spike did though. He admitted his wrong, cared for people who he loved, and made sure that they understood and that he would change. That’s the start. At this point, if he didn’t die, I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone would accept him. Buffy did all good things and still her friends didn’t believe in her, see? But she is still a good person. In the comic, Buffy dated him and loved him. He had friends, and he was kinda happy. So there you go? Isn’t this better than him hurting everyone he loves because he didn’t bother understanding what he did wrong?
@@poppermintee >"He didn’t die and lose everything, you don’t get it at all" -He, by definition, lost everything. -When he was evil, he had a girlfriend, minions working for him, a reputation of defeating Slayers, and he was taken seriously. -Since falling in love with Buffy, what exactly did he get? Buffy giving him mixed signals? Denying her feelings one moment, then leading him on the next. No friendship in the demon world or the Scooby Gang. The inability to hurt humans for nearly the rest of the series despite having violent impulses. Bullied by people who he would otherwise kill if he didn't have a chip in his head. Used by Buffy to help her get over her depression. -He didn't get a single substantive thing for his redemption arc. There's supposed to be reasons for people to redeem themselves. Spike is barely given a legitimate reason other than "maybe Buffy will like him in some distant future". >"At the last moments of his life, he understood that he was wrong. And he was happy that he understood that." -So in other words, meaningless word salad? He received nothing substantive. >"And no, he didn’t lose everything, he slowly gained Dawn and Buffy’s trust again, and they love him for it." Where does it show that he received Dawn's trust?The only interaction she had with him this season was in episode 2 where she threatened him. She's never confirmed or showed that she "trusts him". -And neither did any of the main characters, who actively fought against Buffy's decision to trust him all season long. -All of this is your own made up interpretation that was never shown on screen.
Spike was always a better man than Liam, a better vampire than Angelis, and now he has a soul that is all his. And he's always been better with his words. He was a poet after all.
I love spike and his say the word and she will be a footnote in history..he just gets buffy so much better than angel ever did..spike earned her love and a chance with her way way later..angel was always just creepy to me
God Buffy was so good, one of the all time greats, smart, funny, ground breaking, heat breaking, heart warming... I'm so glad it had such a definitive ending so no one can buy the licensee to "continue the story". Make all the s***tty re-imaginings all you want, the original will always be there
"You really have problems with that word don't you" OOFT fucking hell man, that is some proper dark hard hitting writing that probably wouldn't be allowed today, despite it being innocent out of context.
Nice scene they are beautiful together, but let's remember what happened beforehand. They all literally kicked her out of her house. Like even Dawn but she never paid the bills, and I understand that all the potentials were scared to go to were Caleb was, but she got herself a axe and was right. That was the worst part of the whole season, like how tf are you going to kick her out of her house. And Faith was definitely not ready to be the leader, and Buffy was born a leader.
Oh how I wish my future significant other will say what spike said to Buffy. “Swoon”. He’s a hella of a guy and she’s a hella of a girl and together they are a force to be reckon with :)
I don't care what anyone says either: Buffy and Spike had more chemistry than a science class.
Spike is one of the few people who can make Buffy cry and laugh at the same time in the end Spike is Buffy has such a strong connection with each other
That unfortunate scene in season 6 shows that chemistry can contain toxins
@@williamh2607 Soulless Spike could never have a good relationship with buffy or anyone Even if he tried without a soul he would always be a monster in the end so for the love of buffy He risked everything to be a better man
@@ervylondawid7620 well said! I think Spike's love for Buffy evolves as he evolves ... from the love of a demon to the love of a real man ... and Buffy understands this, that's why she loves him too truly and deeply ... Spuffy is a real couple, a couple who have been together all their lives
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There's a difference though
Spike didn't have a soul when that scene happened
“When I say I love you, it has nothing to do with me”
That line is so true
Spike is one of the few people who can make Buffy cry and laugh at the same time in the end Spike is Buffy has such a strong connection with each other
she says "I don't want to be the one" so he steps up and sacrifices himself to save the world so she wouldn't have to. he's the best.
Good catch!
Don’t make me cry please 🥺
Yes.
You're Goddamn Right!
I don't think I agree 100%. Because when Spike dies, she still has to be a vampire slayer. It's not because of Spike that she's not the only vampire slayer anymore. Willow did that, unleashing the power of the scythe seconds before the final battle. Spike did step up and sacrifice himself, you're right. Without that necklace he wore, Buffy and the rest may have died in the fight or soon enough after. But I don't think he did it *because* she didn't want to be the one. He did it because he loved her.
"When I say I love you, it's not because I want you, or can't have you. It has nothing to do with me, I love what you are, how you try." I cry every time T.T
Me too that's what makes us Human!!!
Spike has always been the best in words and gestures ... in fact he tells her words of true and deep love (Angel never could) and then he dies to save Buffy (reminds me a little of the musical episode when He stops her as she starts to burn and he tells her she has to go on living so one of them is living) and the world ... more hero and champion than that....
Man Spike was the most developed character in series.
Lmao nah bro that honor goes to Wesley
Him, Cordy and Wesley. Their story arcs are the best.
@@drixcaster5169 Agreed. Those three were different. Spike and Cordeila became heroes and Wesely became a stone cold bad***.
I truly feel that the reason this is so powerful is the line, “And I understand with perfect clarity exactly what you are. You’re a hell of a woman.” He doesn’t define her as the chosen one or the slayer. Her strength and how she tries is not because of her abilities or her responsibilities but who she is as a person. It’s such a sharp contrast to the earlier parts of the episode where all of her friends and the potentials see her only as the slayer.
I don’t care what anyone says, this is one of the best scenes in the series. Sarah and James are fantastic
Right?! I feel like, out of all their moments, this one was absolutley the BEST one! Especially Spike's whole speech to her, rallying around her in order to make her feel better and just how well he truly understands her better than anyone else: it's so moving! ❤❤❤
i have to agree in the whole series this is in my top 10 if not top 5 favorite scenes in the series
I couldn't agree more!
Actually one of the best scenes ever written and filmed Big or Small screen.
This scene was my favorite and also loved the prom scene
Notice this: the entire season 7, they NEVER had sex, NEVER kissed. And yet, they seem more compatible and have more chemistry than the entirety of their season 6 sexathon. Speaks VOLUMES.
One thing I like about Spike, more than Angel, he is always true to his feelings.
Because Angel is never true to his feelings.
And Spike would still be in love Buffy even if he lost his soul again!
@@manuelcorrea2365 Exactly! The debate is always fun to have. Buffy and Angel or Buffy and Spike (I don't think anyone ever takes Buffy and Riley as a serious contender). But, I'll never be able to get onboard with the Buffy and Angel team. I get that Angel is her first love, and she'll always have that deep feeling for him, but from the Angel side of the relationship... Angel loses his soul and becomes Angelus, a monster who torments her, and enjoys it. That is who Angel is without the guardrails of a soul. Spike, without a soul, falls for Buffy. Everything he says in this clip isn't because he has a soul. He got the soul because he felt this way without it and wanted to be "worthy" of being with her. Or however he rationalized it to himself.
@@benc6613 Exactly! I 100% agree with you!
I love that spike loved buffy so much, even without a soul, that he went and endured torture to earn one. he loved her that much. angel was a soulless monster without his soul - no humanity and his soul was thrust upon him.
Not to sound like a prude, but I find it interesting that while several other couples (or just two people getting together in Faith and Robin's case) have sex in this episode, a couple that for the most part have been fighting or having sex as part of their physical relationship, can just be there in the moment and take comfort from just being close to each other. I think it's beautiful
Well put!
You’re not a prude. It’s beyond beautiful. It’s true intimacy. You realized that for Spike and Buffy, especially with their past, having the night they had was the most profound thing they could share. It was a thousand times deeper than sex. I wanted so badly for them to at least kiss in S7, and now when I re-watch, I realize that focusing just on their eyes and how they are acting with their expressions, we got so much more than a kiss. We got a deep loving relationship.
@@steffnic13 this is one of the reasons I loved season 7. Buffy and Spike's relationship became what it was meant to be. They understood each other more than most people will ever understand another. That is why, I believe, Buffy was able to bring herself to leave him in the final episode. She knew it was something he HAD to do. That to do otherwise would make him less of a person, so to speak.
I don't think it's prudish. It's complex storytelling. When the world is ending (again), some people reach for the disposable comfort of the new and temporary. Some reach for deeper and more lasting, and more rooted affection. That's knowing that different people will react differently to the same circumstances and that enriches the story. A study in contrasts.
Sometimes, just having someone, ANYONE, tell you they love you without asking for anything in return can heal so many hurts. Or at least begin to. Shit, Buffy saved the world over and over again, knowing she’d never truly be recognized for it. To have someone tell her she added to their lives just by being in it-not because they needed her to save them-must have been a relief and a half.
Having someone outside of your family love you unconditionally can help so much, knowing that they’ll always be there for you, right by your side
I love this comment!!!
Can use it in a fiction I’m writing? Is Spuffy of course
But Buffy was recognized for what she did. Over and over again. 'She saved the world. A lot' is on her tombstone. She's not supposed to have friends as the Slayer, but she does and they constantly show her how great she and her cause is by giving up their lives to her service. They also love her just for who she is and not just because she saves them: they are fighters alongside her who frequently save Buffy as well, not dependent victims. Giles tells her what a great Slayer she is and is so proud of her. Her long list of successes validate her whether anyone else sees them or not; she has to know from that her life has worth and meaning and purposeful effect. She wins 'Class Protector' and her entire graduating class fights the Mayor with her.
Buffy may well have felt lonely because no one (except Kendra/Faith at first, Angel, Spike, and to some extent Riley) shared her fighting responsibility. But it didn't make sense to me for her to feel unacknowledged. Everything she did was acknowledged as being special. 'One girl in all the world. She is the Slayer.' That's a heck of a recognition if you ask me!
Not that romantic recognition like Spike's isn't always nice as well.
@@cmm5542 Yes but just before this scene, she’d been thrown out of her own house by the sister she’d died to save, the friends that had fought by her side and all the potentials. Anya said that she didn’t choose her powers she just got lucky- she’d died to save the world twice and even though a new slayer had been called in Kendra then Faith, she chose to continue fighting even though her job was done, she’d sent Angel to a hell dimension, she’d risked her life constantly only to be repaid by her friends turning their backs on her. I don’t think anyone really recognised everything she’d risked and sacrificed for everyone constantly except Spike, she didn’t even get an apology.
Spike reminding the viewer that in life he was a poet. Despite what the people in his time thought of his poetry the man knows how to string words along
I find it fitting how William was always made fun of for how bad his poetry was, and his writing did nothing but push away the girl he loved. But in this scene, Spike gives an eloquent speech to the girl he loves, well-spoken enough that I would consider it poetry, and it helps her and convinces her to want him to stay.
Spike is one of the few people who can make Buffy cry and laugh at the same time in the end Spike is Buffy has such a strong connection with each other
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i don’t give a shit about what other people say but this scene was the best scene with spuffy
Spike is one of the few people who can make Buffy cry and laugh at the same time in the end Spike is Buffy has such a strong connection with each other
Possibly eclipsed by the scene after it where he tells her it was the best night of his life!
The most beautiful aspect of all this, is that while everyone else in this Episode is being Touched literally, Spike Touched Buffy's Heart and Soul. That they both went beyond that need of physical intimacy that we see the other characters partaking in, and instead just two beautiful souls holing one another instead due to a soul intimacy instead.
Yes.. It turned out to be very contrasting).. And it’s great, it’s very cool.
Credit to the writers but holy fuck did James NAILLLLLLLLLLLLLL the delivery. That scene gets me every time still.
Yessss!!
I think this, this moment is when Buffy realised how deep her connection with Spike was. And it's beautiful.
This and the “i save you everynight” speech, melts my heart eveytime
Hands down one of the best scenes in the entire series.
I won’t say that but yeah
Anyone who watched this scene and could still somehow be on team Angel is beyond help. This episode solidified Spike as one of my all-time favorite TV characters. Epic stuff.
The speech that really solidified it for me was where she found out he had a soul. I know some fans have problems with this season but there's a reason why it's my second favorite (season 5 being the first) and it is ALL to do with the development of Spike's and Buffy's relationship and I'm not talking about the romantic side. They developed so much understanding for each other in this season, I know people like Giles and Xander thought it was because they had feelings for each other but that wasn't it at all (not that they didn't have feelings for each other, they did, but the understanding went beyond that). They knew each other inside and out and were not so much blinded to the other's faults but able to look past them so they could help each other in ways the other people in the story would never have thought of and also help the other become the person they truly wanted to be but couldn't have made it on their own. Without Spike no one would have made it to the final battle. If nothing else, Buffy would probably have given up after they kicked her out and Faith and the others with her would have died in their quest leaving the few potentials at the house vulnerable to attack and easy pickings.
Spike is the best character. But that doesn't make Spuffy the best relationship. She treated Angel better than she did Spike; that's my reason. Just because Spike was tough enough to take Buffy's combined scorn and neediness after a century with Drusilla doesn't mean he didn't deserve better than that. Buffy cared for Angel as much as he did her; that is a necessary foundation for any good, healthy adult relationship. Even if Buffy and Angel could never work out, Buffy should have applied those same principles to a relationship that could have worked for her, which is not what she did for Spike. She just used him. Even in this scene he's just taking care of her needs; Buffy's not even aware Spike also has needs to be taken care of! (Willow was, though. And Joyce, and Dawn, and even Anya.)
@@cmm5542 I definitely agree! I don't like the Team Angel or Team Spike stuff because we're talking about a relationship. Spike is by far my favorite character, and I wish that Spuffy could be real, but in the universe of the show we were given I don't think it should be (at least not without a lot of work, therapy, personal growth, etc). A lot of people take this to mean that I like Angel more than Spike but really it just means I care about Spike enough that I don't want to push a relationship onto him that would be unfair, unhealthy, and one-sided. Buffy needs to see Spike as an equal person first, not someone to use because they're willing to sacrifice everything for her.
@@achicken21 Absolutely. I frequently like characters separately but not ship them; and it can be very difficult to explain to people! 'Yes, so-and-so is a GREAT character, but I don't think he/she would be happy with such-and-such. No, that doesn't mean I don't like such-and-such! I love them too, just not TOGETHER . . .' Sigh.
Glad we share the same view! Have a nice day 🙂
@@cmm5542 Thanks so much! It's nice to be able to share an opinion and be able to articulate it correctly lol, have a good day too!
Remember when Spike was a one time character? Yeah, neither do I.
I do.
@@jrewing1512
It was a joke....
Lol, I remember the first episode he was in, and thinking "damn this guy was funny.. will he ever come back?" And Boom!
Every single time I hear this speech I always think back to the episode School Hard, when Spike was first introduced. He wanted nothing more than to kill Buffy and he ends up becoming was of her greatest allies. The transition was amazing. It worked out so well.
Great character development.
Funny thing is - from what I heard - Spike was supposed to last three or four episodes max. He just delivered his lines so well - the fans wouldn't let him go.
I always forget the moments where she does explain to him, as clearly as she can make sense of her feelings and fears, and you see the little facial expression on both James’ and Sarah’s faces that speak volumes about how their characters feel towards each other. You see the “omg you’re actually admitting you don’t let people in” look on Spike’s face as Buffy talks about how the Slayer made her different
Spike is one of the few people who can make Buffy cry and laugh at the same time in the end Spike is Buffy has such a strong connection with each other
Yeah. All of S7 is eyes and expressions between them. They speak volumes with their eyes. You have to watch it so closely. But you get such beauty from it. His eyes when she comes for him in the cave, as well as hers in response. Their eyes spoke of deep love and respect for each other.
Some of the greatest writing ever . Whomever found it in there soul to put these words to page felt something so deep for someone they had to write this . I thank them!
Spike is hot as hell, with an ancient, poetic soul that got lost along the way. In his pure vampire form, he lost his soul and did terrible things. And still being a monster, for Buffy, he went after his lost soul.
Having that human part back, he felt the weight of each evil act and entered into reflective conflict. Spike missed a lot!
However, he was the only one who could see the true essence of Buffy. These two together have undeniable chemistry and admirable companionship. It's a shame that soulmates don't usually stay together.
True to his character, Spike is a bloody poet.
For me this scene and the one in the church, when Spike tells Buffy that he got his soul back! They are some of the best! God what beautiful scenes! 😍 they made me cry
One of the great couples of Television. So perfect. Dark warriors.
This is the definition of love. "I don't care about everything else, but you are special. That is what I love."
Season 7 is so flush with beautiful moments between them that you will miss if you don’t look closely enough. A glance. Their eyes. All of it. This scene and when he tells her that night was the next night of his life will go down in history. This man was never Angelis level of evil on his worst day. He had compassion for her no matter what.
the 4 dislikes are Angel, Riley, Drusilla and Harmony 😂
I loved Harmony. She was so funny, especially in Angel. And despite being thick as pig sh** she was a survivor.
4 losers 😂😂😂😂😂
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While it IS a love confession.
The clothes, the way Spike kneels makes him look like a Knight (A Black Knight) and I think it is not coincidence Buffy wears withe (A white Lady)
I say he means it when he tells her that he loves her but does not expect nothing in return.
It is what a Knight would tell his Lady to offer unconditional love. And Spike HAS been Buffy's Knight this season.
And some people don’t like them .... how could you not I’ve always loved them!!!!!!!!!!! 😍😍😍😍
Well, this scene is really very beautiful and sensual.. And in general they behave differently throughout the 7th season. And before they had a rather wrong, I would say dirty relationship.. Perhaps it was in Spike’s soul.. Therefore, I can understand those who do not accept this couple, to be honest
i’ve seen your kindness and your strength. i’ve seen the best and worst of you. and i understand with perfect clarity what you are. ✨you’re the one, buffy✨
Spike and Buffy forever!!
I met James Marsters on my 16th birthday at a Buffy Con and he was SO nice! I was last in line for a meet and greet and I asked him to signed my shirt and he knelt down infront of me, put one hand oh my stomach and signed my shirt. Best birthday ever!
Those Sarah Michelle reaction close-ups tho- So good . Always.
Excellent writing and acting. Sarah and James are outstanding. The vulnerability and honesty of Buffy and Spike here always makes me cry.
The best speech about love ever ❤️
How many of us would truly be able to mentally/emotionally facilitate this level of genuine affection?
I've seen this first when I was 14. Many times more. I had VHS with this episode. I shipped Spuffy for years. I rewatched it probably until I was 21. I haven't seen this episode for years now - I'm 30. I rewatched the whole TV show and got to this point. I cried like a baby yesterday even though I remember every single line. I rewatched it today, and still crying. This is way deeper than I could understand when I was 14 or 20. You have to go through many levels of self-acceptance, admitting you're closed off for people and so on, and learn to love yourself to watch the pure beauty of this scene years later. Understand how much more this scene is. And also Buffy - Buffy is such a heroine that there is no other. In the end of every episode of this show I wanted to hug Buffy because I don't want her to suffer anymore and because she's such a good person. And this scene, now, was like the epitome of that feeling. It's like me, a viewer, telling Buffy that she's the one. She is the best damn personality on the TV screen. And through her you can also see how you grow over years. This is amazing. This show is so much more than anything in the world ever created.
Buffy the vampire Slayer is a gift that joss whedon gave to the world!!
Spike is one of the few people who can make Buffy cry and laugh at the same time in the end Spike is Buffy has such a strong connection with each other
same here, ive watched them too at around age 14,i loooved that show,all recorded on vhs ..good old days. i havent seen buffy ever since, now 33 and came across a buffy video.now i might rewatch buffy again
completely agree with you! Buffy is a heroine and has the weight of the world on her shoulders, her friends are waiting for her to work out everything and She always has to be perfect, in the end they turn their backs on her because she has to make unpopular decisions; Angel is her first love (no one can deny it), but he doesn't let her free to be herself, he controls her, finally he leaves her because he's selfish.
Spike at the beginning hates her, then he loves her (just before the chip, Drusilla says it clearly "I knew before you did, I knew you loved the slayer") and this love changes how Spike changes, first it is selfish because he has no soul, then it's based on trust, strength, depth .... Spike is the only one who really knows Buffy and vice versa
I have this scene memorized in my brain
I always get a little tear at this scene. Beautifully done. For all the big overblown action scenes and fighting this show does the delicate understated stuff like this better than most ‘regular’ shows. Spike was a very easy character to overcook, overplay and spoil but JM’s portrayal is just perfect. One of the very best characters ever on any screen ever IMO. It’s all still as good in 2022 as it was 25 years ago.
He's completely right. She is an amazing woman.
I love what she is , Lightning, her heart, soul, her kindness, her smile , everything
Loves Spike . I hated he had to die. I was so hoping he and Buffy would have ended up together. They had so much love 😢
@ Melody McCoy
You are aware he comes back on Angel season 5. right?
@@miaamer7718 Also they DO get together in Season 10 which is canonical according to Masters & Whedon
He comes back on angel
I'm a hardcore Bangel shipper but this is one of the best scenes in the series.
Every time I watch this scene I cry at the exact same time as Buffy. So powerful!
My Favorite scene ever ❤️
Buffy always loved spike
I love the spike and buffy moments they culdve done so much more with it unlike with angel spike actually takes responsibility for all the things hes done.
I love these two and how they grew up and how their relationship developed. One of my fave scenes!
She could lose her powers, she could have never have had them - but who she is draws Spike in. As a vampire he operated like an animal and still did a damn good job for the most part keeping himself in check. Those were real tears falling from his face when she died. But he hated himself to understand without a soul he will always end up treating Buffy wrong, so he was willing to die to get one because he couldn't be around her anymore without it.
“you really have a problem with the word no don’t you “ 😂😂😂
Buffy And Spike later on really sorted out lots of there baggage
Grew up with Buffy. Never did I think her & Spike would have a trip down memory lane.
Spike was amazing in this scene!
After season 6, I couldn’t love Spike. When I came back to the show, I watched season 7 and fell in love with him all over again.
Ya know, a lot of people really dont like season 7 as a whole, but any fan has gotta admit that it has some of the best individual scenes of the entire series. This being one of them.
I love what you are What you Do How Yo Try That line destroys me😣😖
Spike was a better poet in death. This was poetry in motion. He was the true champion in season 7. He saved Buffy and the other slayers.
I love spike and how he spoke bout buffy her kindness
Spike, aka William the (Buffy) Conqueror.
"Oh, you say the word, and she's a footnote in history. I'll make it look like a painful accident."
If anyone needs (any more) evidence that Spike could kill Faith if he'd wanted to, there ya go.
Im not asking you for anything. When I say I love you, it's not because I want you, or because I can't have you. It has nothing to do with me! I love what you are, what you do, how you try!
It's awesome how Spikes mocked Poem "Effulgent" of how his heart has a buldge in it.. would later reflect Spikes soul pounding in his chest.
He made her cry, he made her feel and and he made her laugh all in one breath this is what true love looks like, you can physically see how he tore her wall down that kept up this cold exterior the moment he said “I love you, I love what you are”. 🥹
It's been obvious for a long time that they both love and protect each other. They communicate with each other everything they can't tell anyone else. It's a beautiful relationship.
Why am I crying I love the too
A tiny echo in there of Roy Batty's tears in rain speech.
(RIP Rutger Hauer, who was also in the Buffy movie.)
I thought this was so romantic 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Spike stood by Buffy when his friends turned their backs on her.
I like the direction they eventually chose to have Spike regain his soul for the sake of Buffy &/or his relationship with her. He eventually gave his life for her sake and for the sake of her mission. No girl could ask for anything more from a man.
I will always love these two. Seeing this still warms my heart. Takes me back to my highschool years where me and my friend would bicker over team Angel or team Spike. Which for me, i've always been team Spike. ❤
this scene is so important to me 🥺
This scene 💔
joke unnoticed: buffy: "casualties...sound so casual" 🤣
I always thought the amulet was meant to be worn by Buffy because its someone who's more than human who has a soul and when Buffy stepped through a portal the first slayer was a regular girl who got demons put in her to fight demons, wouldn't that make Buffy more than human?
"I'm not asking you for anything" is perhaps the most pure way to offer someone affection and words of affirmation. I mean truly, how relatable is it to be praised by a partner as a form of manipulation or a way to fish for their own validation?
It's nice to see Spike sees that here, especially given his history with Buffy and what he did to her. I think having a soul was the first time he could ever realize he literally wasn't capable of love before, he only "loved" Buffy like a trophy, like a possession. And the only reason he went for a soul was because she didn't want him, not because it was "right." But here we see the end of that journey; the shame and subsequent self-improvement that happened. It's like watching someone graduate therapy!
And in return of constantly trying to change and be a better person, he got what?
The loss of his girlfriend Drusilla?
Alienated from the entire demon world?
Relentlessly insulted and antagonized by Buffy and her peers?
Mixed signals from Buffy for 3 straight seasons?
A meaningless "I love you" that he didn't even believe before he died?
If the message of the show is to teach people to better themselves purely because it's the right thing to do, they shouldn't make the "improving person" lose everything and gain nothing. It makes the message fall flat.
Before any of that, he had killed people. He had lied, cheated. He had done a lot of terrible things. Look, I’m Spike’s fan, and am all for his redemption arc. And this is it. His redemption.
He didn’t die and lose everything, you don’t get it at all. At the last moments of his life, he understood that he was wrong. And he was happy that he understood that. There is peace when you understand what you did wrong and peace in knowing that maybe you are doing your best to make up for it.
You don’t get how at the last possible moments of his life here (even if Spike appears again in Angel’s show) that he was in love. He truly understands a lot of things he didn’t when he didn’t have a soul. Now, he is grateful for it even if in the end he dies. And no, he didn’t lose everything, he slowly gained Dawn and Buffy’s trust again, and they love him for it. Maybe not everyone’s and certainly not everyone stands up and claps for his achievements but hardly that would happen for every little good thing you do in your life.
If you expect there would be celebration, people clapping every time you do good stuff, then it would make your life miserable indeed. You would keep asking why no one appreciates you, why no one cares, when maybe they do, but you just look at it from the wrong angle.
Sometimes the world isn’t fair to people who try to get up after getting down, but you could choose. You could choose to dwell on the unfairness of it all, or make up for what you did was wrong and gain people’s trust again. That’s possible, doable. But not everyone has strength to do it. Spike did though. He admitted his wrong, cared for people who he loved, and made sure that they understood and that he would change. That’s the start.
At this point, if he didn’t die, I wouldn’t be surprised if everyone would accept him. Buffy did all good things and still her friends didn’t believe in her, see? But she is still a good person.
In the comic, Buffy dated him and loved him. He had friends, and he was kinda happy. So there you go? Isn’t this better than him hurting everyone he loves because he didn’t bother understanding what he did wrong?
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>"He didn’t die and lose everything, you don’t get it at all"
-He, by definition, lost everything.
-When he was evil, he had a girlfriend, minions working for him, a reputation of defeating Slayers, and he was taken seriously.
-Since falling in love with Buffy, what exactly did he get? Buffy giving him mixed signals? Denying her feelings one moment, then leading him on the next. No friendship in the demon world or the Scooby Gang. The inability to hurt humans for nearly the rest of the series despite having violent impulses. Bullied by people who he would otherwise kill if he didn't have a chip in his head. Used by Buffy to help her get over her depression.
-He didn't get a single substantive thing for his redemption arc. There's supposed to be reasons for people to redeem themselves. Spike is barely given a legitimate reason other than "maybe Buffy will like him in some distant future".
>"At the last moments of his life, he understood that he was wrong. And he was happy that he understood that."
-So in other words, meaningless word salad? He received nothing substantive.
>"And no, he didn’t lose everything, he slowly gained Dawn and Buffy’s trust again, and they love him for it."
Where does it show that he received Dawn's trust?The only interaction she had with him this season was in episode 2 where she threatened him. She's never confirmed or showed that she "trusts him".
-And neither did any of the main characters, who actively fought against Buffy's decision to trust him all season long.
-All of this is your own made up interpretation that was never shown on screen.
Besides, a heartwarming speech, what I really like about this scene is it’s just two really good friends who are there for each other.
Spike was always a better man than Liam, a better vampire than Angelis, and now he has a soul that is all his.
And he's always been better with his words. He was a poet after all.
they are literally everythingg
Loved this scene!
I love spike and his say the word and she will be a footnote in history..he just gets buffy so much better than angel ever did..spike earned her love and a chance with her way way later..angel was always just creepy to me
Damn I love his voice and his words I need a lover vampire
When Spike’s theme hits at 3:36
I just teared up...geez Spike.
Can you upload the scene after this where Buffy asks spike to stay and he lays beside her:-)
Buffy and sper love
God Buffy was so good, one of the all time greats, smart, funny, ground breaking, heat breaking, heart warming...
I'm so glad it had such a definitive ending so no one can buy the licensee to "continue the story". Make all the s***tty re-imaginings all you want, the original will always be there
The one dislike is Angel :'D
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Spike fought for his soul angel did not his soul was forced as a punishment
"You really have problems with that word don't you"
OOFT fucking hell man, that is some proper dark hard hitting writing that probably wouldn't be allowed today, despite it being innocent out of context.
Nice scene they are beautiful together, but let's remember what happened beforehand. They all literally kicked her out of her house. Like even Dawn but she never paid the bills, and I understand that all the potentials were scared to go to were Caleb was, but she got herself a axe and was right. That was the worst part of the whole season, like how tf are you going to kick her out of her house. And Faith was definitely not ready to be the leader, and Buffy was born a leader.
Spike just sayed he could defeat faith with that line
Her saying she doesn't want to be the one is reallllll
Oh how I wish my future significant other will say what spike said to Buffy. “Swoon”. He’s a hella of a guy and she’s a hella of a girl and together they are a force to be reckon with :)
I will always love you ❤️
The shows been over so long no one talks about how good Sarah and James truly were, which is a crying shame.
The fact that Spike was evil and change completely says alot about who Buffy is
Awesome scene besides the willow and Kennedy scene
Willow and Kennedy having sex in Buffy's bed. That made me spit nails.
I dont wanna be the one = I don't deserve you 🥺
Buffy recoiled from spike when he tried to touch her