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I’ve used Olive Tree for about 8 years. I am an Elder but occasionally preach. I think Olive Tree is an excellent software. I’ve seen Logos and for me it looked too in depth for my use which is daily study, church service, and occasional sermon prep. I’ve spent hundreds on several solid commentaries. It’s plenty for me. Great video brother. I agree with your assessment.
I've used Olive tree since it was first on a PDA device (pre smart phone). I have too many books accumulated over the years to change to logos. I would like olive tree to remodel their graphic-user interface to include tabs so that multiple books can be opened at the same time like a in an internet browser. I like how my resources are available on all my devices.
Thanks for sharing your comments on these resources. I've been a Logos subscriber since the late 1990s and with Olive Tree since about 2004. I find both to be useful.
If you grab Logos 10 Gold (it has to be Gold), you can add your personal physical book library (if it is in Logos). Logos can search digitally the added books. You still need the physical book but it gives you the page number.
I've used both Logos and Olive Tree and purchased the platinum version of Logos. I'm used to learning multiple software packages at work when it comes to basic functionality I pick up on features fairly quickly. Logos wasn't hard to learn. One thing I was disappointed with Logos is when I used the phone app to scan the ISBNs of my hard copy library the book covers will show up in my Logos library but unless Logos has a publisher license for that book you cannot use the book unless you purchase it. I don't want to purchase another version of a book I already have. So, if you plan on purchasing Logos keep this feature in mind.
Olive Tree for me! I am an ordained minister. I preach, lead Bible studies, counsel, partake in personal daily devotions, etc. I have used both Logos & Olive Tree. I quit using the Logos platform years ago. I found it extremely overpriced. I found that I was spending more of my study time trying to figure out how to use it. The Logos UI was frustratingly difficult, while Olive Tree has a very smooth interface, and is exactly what I need. Plus, it's reasonable priced.
I decided to get Logos about 6 months ago. I watched many UA-cam videos about the different packages and options. I spent a lot of time on their website researching as well. Long story short, there was so much to choose from that I couldn’t decide what I wanted to do....and never purchased anything.
There are 3 software, logos bible, e-sword, olive tree. All is good. The most free options is e-sword. All software do have free options. best way is to try it out, it is a preference. Logos bible is a bit more advanced, but not to hard to learn. E-sword is very simple to understand, and so is olive tree. I have all of them.
the Church Fathers set from Eerdman's is available on the RCC iPieta app for free. However, the copy & paste functionality on that app is not the best.
Great video… for me (predominately using an iPad while I read my physical Bible), logos just flows way better for my usage (which often isn’t even that in depth, but I do like that it can dig a bit deeper as the need arises).
Olive Tree to me is like using a Swiss Army knife when I am listening to a sermon or am in a Bible study. it's great when a question pops up in my mind and I want to look up a resource at the spur of the moment.
Balanced and fair comparison. It is the advanced functionality (and the additional programmer time required) that makes the Logos version more expensive than the Olive Tree version. One other factor to be considered is having a single program for all owned resources. It becomes increasingly difficult to remember which program has a specific title, similar to having bookshelves in different parts of the house and garage Logos has almost all Olive Tree titles with thousands of additional titles. Sadly Olive Tree has only a small fraction of the titles available to Logos
There's no doubt that Logos is the platform of choice in the Bible sweepstakes but as one user who has invested almost as much in Olive Tree I find it hard to let go. MikeInMinnesota
This is a great video however there are a couple of things I think should be mentioned… 1 Although Logos has these packages if you will pay close attention to them some of the resources in the packages are either public domain or free online. Therefore sometimes it’s not as much of a values. 2 Logos sometimes makes computers run quite hard. It can be slow unless you have an updated strong machine. 3 Olive Tree is based around app functionality. The Olive Tree experience on app based software is far superior.
I had hard time binging myself to buy public domain works from Logos. But scrolling through a long scanned PDF isn’t pleasant or efficient either. It’s been pretty fast on my computer so far.
I've never really used Olive Tree, but logos has been a game changer. All those resources in one place, easily searched, referenced and linked to the Bible. Also between their sales and monthly free books it isn't horrendous for the bank balance! Have you ever looked at Accordance? It isn't as good overall like logos, but is considered by many to be better for Hebrew and Greek studies
I have. But not that much. I hate to say it, but I doubt they are around in 20 years. I hope I’m wrong about that. Logos is gobbling up companies. Sadly I don’t see them lasting.
I know that dead trees are a pain to store and move, but I am reluctant to move away from them and have always had a hard time reading books on screens. Now if they come out with a Linux version I might be more interested.
Do you mean LOGOS? Did you use the Linux version of Logos? I wonder what was your experience? I like to have the software on Linux so that I can integrate it into my ecosystem of note taking using the Zettelkasten method.
What I love about olive tree is that it includes some copyrighted bibles freely like the NKJV, NIV, ESV (Global Study Bible), etc. and includes the Byzantine text and the Textus Receptus for free too
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews Yes I'm doing fine. I started and my Greek is improving. the copy of the TR really helped me a lot and I thank you for that
I have friends who had works in Libronix for a long time, which became Logos and are now still supported. So the longevity was a huge pro to me. With that said, I’ve predominantly been a Mac user the past couple decades and Olive Tree seemed a lot better for Mac, but at this point I have so much money invested in Logos I can’t switch.
I have both and have invested heavily in books for both. I like using the Logos on my home computer because it is very flexible and customizable, but they have no app. So I use the Olive Tree app on my tablet because it is very beneficial to have at church Bible studies and sermons.
Logos does have an app for both Google, Apple, and Kindle platforms. I do agree that the OliveTree mobile app is far easier to use than Logos, but they do have one. Could also use the Logos website to have access to all your resources.
@@dustyladyv I misquoted that statement. I meant to say that the app is very limited and nothing like the online experience. It would be helpful if the app had windows where the books would follow the Bible text. But I do love the online usage and use it above Olive Tree on my PC. I only use Olive Tree on my tablet while at church. We do not have internet at church. Thanks for your reply.
I’ve just started in focused bible study and have been enjoying using the free LOGOS software. It does seem strange that there are more free resources available on mobile than in the desktop app though. The mobile app is really great, but the desktop really much more productive. I just wish I could get all the same resources I have access to on my phone into the desktop version.
I have invested in resources on both OT and Logos. I agree with you that for those who like using the iPad, OT is better as it’s primarily a mobile app and has a better workflow and easier to use interface. Otherwise for those who are primarily Macbook or PC users, Logos (or Accordance) is better - I agree the OT apps on MacOS and Windows are quite primitive in comparison.
I have used Olive Tree but I find Logos more organized and easier to use. Seems to have more features than Olive Tree for Bible teachers like me. All of the components work together well. Logos is available for as little as $10/month.
Helpful video. I own both and find value in both of them although I'd probably sell my Logos library if someone would be interested. Logos is more powerful. Olive Tree is far simpler for most people to use.
I used Olive Tree for a number of years and still have it, but as a layperson there is one area where Logos is just much better. Notes and highlights. Olive Tree is simpler to use, but it's notes and highlights features are too simple. Logos has way more flexibility and functionality. Custom highlight pallets, ability to insert pictures, bullet points/numbering, This was a big reason I moved to Logos. Of course Logos has a bigger library and more features overall, but notes and highlights is something I use daily and value highly.
I think your right, I have picked all the books I want from it so I consider my ipad a replacement to a heavy paper bible with a bolt on tool kit. I accept that I will use all the main book readers, Kindle, Play Books and apple books and there will always be paper books. Because my eyes are not as good as they have been, the ipad fonts are great which is why I am getting more use to devices over paper books. I love my books. No time for TV!
I don't have any experience with Olive Tree but I am long time user of Logis. Love the linking of the resources but I know I have only scratched the surface with all it can do
Start with Logos 9 Fundamentals gets you going, I wish I had. I'm in it for about 7Gs and still looking to do real in depth study, not having the back ground that mite of saved me! MP Seminars would help.
Is "Biblesoft" not a consideration any more? I use to sell tons of that software in the early/mid nineties. I would imagen that it's on the same level as Olive Tree?
For me, I'm after software to compare the Septuagint, Samaritan Pentateuch, Dead Sea Scrolls, Latin Vulgate and a modern translation like KJV, NKJV, ESV, NASB2020.
I love Logos. I found it before Olive Tree and have had it for years, and so became invested in it first. I can't really switch: I use Linux and now I can run Logos without a VM. I'd rather not revisit that life habit. A significant problem with Logos is that Faithlife can be shady sometimes. Fortunately they're getting better. They seem to be correcting things before a scandal hits, which makes me glad.
Hello, Sir. Excuse me. I have a question about the purchase (Olive Tree): If we purchase a book (my wishlist book is "BDAG") on our Android application, will it link to our Windows application? So we'll be able to access the same book on two different OS's, doesn't it? Thanks in advance
There are 3 software, logos bible, e-sword, olive tree. All are good tools. The most free options are e-sword. But all software do have free options. The best way is to try it out, it is a preference. Logos bible is a bit more advanced, but not to hard to learn. E-sword is very simple to understand, and so is olive tree. I have all of them.
Hi, brother! I have been using Logos for about 5 years. If you ever have questions about doing something in the software, I would be happy to catch you on a video chat and help you out!
I've been using logos inconsistently for a couple years and have been watching some of the videos recently trying to really acclimate myself to some serious bible study. I'm building up the courage to purchase logos 10 but if you're still offering that video chat help I'd like to take you up on your offer. Thanks.
The Olivetree Books are a continuous scroll with no page or location reference so when you go back to a particular book the last location is exposed as the page to continue from but you have no reference to tell you what chapter or location you are at. It gets worse when you go from one device to another and even worse when you go from an IPad to a PC as the history is not synchronised across devices like a Kindle does. It behaves well stepping forward to new locations but try and figure out where you are at the start or in a book currently in progress that’s a debacle. You buy a set of commentaries and it treats the 20 or 50 volumes as a single book. This system needs location or page numbers like every other book you buy whether it’s electronic or printed on paper. Fancy leaving location reference out of the software!
On a positive note my reading has dramatically increased. It was a long time before Olivetree installed a guide that was designated for iphones but should have said also for ipads. There ia a two finger swipe that effectively take you back in history to a precise location in the most previous book read on that particular device which helps whilst on that device. Book ribbons do get synced so they help but on a microsoft PC the dates of the ribbons are missing. I am told the ribbon at the bottom of the list is the most recent. I dont have any experience in logos but have many of the start up packages books already. I find typing notes unnatural with free thought so often I create a notebook or new section in Microsoft Onenote and then use an on an iPad drawing more freely hand written notes onto a screen shot and when finished my session, sending those screen shot photos into that OneNote recently created notebook. The same method of screen shoting I also apply to PDFs or other books I have in Kindle, google Play IBooks . Those same screen shots I can also add more underlines or type additional typed notes or hand written notes with plenty of space for more thoughts using the pencil. I have found often using an Ipad I dont have to go back to headquarters to get in front of a PC but can freely add more though and content when aat the beach or simply reviewing at a cafe. Olive Tree needs a lot of work but I do like the off line availability. The worst thing you can do is to forget to hit sync before and at the end of a session. If you dont do this and you simply pick it up where you left off you will loose that sessions history. Compared to paper books its a fast way to get around but paper books are a way to soak in the information. I have just started Accordance 13 bible software as well. Not sure on that one except first impression is there are alot of books not available on a phone. So far my work around is as above. I can draft my thoughts and notes easily with the screen shot method and OneNote combination.
Not a pastor and do not have a congregation behind me and I am retired, also I have my KJV extensively marked up with many personal notes and highlights in Olive Tree. I do not believe that their is a export to move my personal notes and highlights to Logos so I believe I will save $750 and keep my Olive Tree.
I have numerous books in Olivetree and the navigation is TERRIBLE. It has no page or location numbers and leaves you wondering where the heck you are in a book and the task of multi choice guessing when you might be. Portability is great but it’s like surfing the web type experience. The email support is prompt but the issue is the software is not user friendly like you would expect a regular book library to be like. A newspaper, a book, a kindle book, ect HAVE PAGE NUMBERS or location but NOT Olivetree. It really does leave you often up a creek with out a paddle! You just can’t beat a paper book.
Logos is definently had more functionality and books available..... EXCEPT Logos for some reason has chosen to have zero majority text english translations.
FREE is the price for Blue Letter Bible. It has LOTS of content, tools (the search function alone is incredible) and highly customizable for personal use. You get the entire BLB with the download ( which is updated periodically) and an occasional request for a donation).
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews the different greek texts the commentaries maps eg Keil and delitzsch RWP TR LXX with strongs numbers etc all free in fact I am fortunate to still have the android app which seems to have more than the PC
I've used e-Sword and am a long-time Logos user (since 2000). e-Sword is a great value, but It' not "better" (whatever that means) than Logos. It doesn't have near the power, capabilities, or resources. But it doesn't cost near as much and is great for a layman or someone who won't or can't spend a lot, which brings OT back into the conversation. Accordance is closest to Logos re:capabilities/features and is said to be a bit more capable with complex original language work. But if someone (especially, as mentioned before, a pastor, seminary student, Bible college/seminary prof, or committed layman) wants the most powerful, capable Bible software program, Logos is the superior choice.
@@lloydcrooks712 Is there a place where the Android App can still be downloaded? There is one called "MySword", but that just bothers me for some reason. I used to use esword on my android, but now its gone.
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I’ve used Olive Tree for about 8 years. I am an Elder but occasionally preach. I think Olive Tree is an excellent software. I’ve seen Logos and for me it looked too in depth for my use which is daily study, church service, and occasional sermon prep. I’ve spent hundreds on several solid commentaries. It’s plenty for me. Great video brother. I agree with your assessment.
I've used Olive tree since it was first on a PDA device (pre smart phone). I have too many books accumulated over the years to change to logos. I would like olive tree to remodel their graphic-user interface to include tabs so that multiple books can be opened at the same time like a in an internet browser. I like how my resources are available on all my devices.
Thanks for sharing your comments on these resources. I've been a Logos subscriber since the late 1990s and with Olive Tree since about 2004. I find both to be useful.
If you grab Logos 10 Gold (it has to be Gold), you can add your personal physical book library (if it is in Logos). Logos can search digitally the added books. You still need the physical book but it gives you the page number.
I've used both Logos and Olive Tree and purchased the platinum version of Logos. I'm used to learning multiple software packages at work when it comes to basic functionality I pick up on features fairly quickly. Logos wasn't hard to learn. One thing I was disappointed with Logos is when I used the phone app to scan the ISBNs of my hard copy library the book covers will show up in my Logos library but unless Logos has a publisher license for that book you cannot use the book unless you purchase it. I don't want to purchase another version of a book I already have. So, if you plan on purchasing Logos keep this feature in mind.
Olive Tree for me! I am an ordained minister. I preach, lead Bible studies, counsel, partake in personal daily devotions, etc. I have used both Logos & Olive Tree. I quit using the Logos platform years ago. I found it extremely overpriced. I found that I was spending more of my study time trying to figure out how to use it. The Logos UI was frustratingly difficult, while Olive Tree has a very smooth interface, and is exactly what I need. Plus, it's reasonable priced.
I decided to get Logos about 6 months ago. I watched many UA-cam videos about the different packages and options. I spent a lot of time on their website researching as well. Long story short, there was so much to choose from that I couldn’t decide what I wanted to do....and never purchased anything.
Yeah it’s a bit overwhelming. I suspect if they reduced the number of base packages they have, it would actually increase their sales
There are 3 software, logos bible, e-sword, olive tree. All is good. The most free options is e-sword. All software do have free options. best way is to try it out, it is a preference. Logos bible is a bit more advanced, but not to hard to learn. E-sword is very simple to understand, and so is olive tree. I have all of them.
the Church Fathers set from Eerdman's is available on the RCC iPieta app for free. However, the copy & paste functionality on that app is not the best.
Great video… for me (predominately using an iPad while I read my physical Bible), logos just flows way better for my usage (which often isn’t even that in depth, but I do like that it can dig a bit deeper as the need arises).
Very nice! Thanks for watching!
Olive Tree to me is like using a Swiss Army knife when I am listening to a sermon or am in a Bible study. it's great when a question pops up in my mind and I want to look up a resource at the spur of the moment.
I've been using Olive Tree for years along with Wordsearch, which I really enjoyed. Logos bought Wordsearch and is the reason I have it now.
Balanced and fair comparison. It is the advanced functionality (and the additional programmer time required) that makes the Logos version more expensive than the Olive Tree version.
One other factor to be considered is having a single program for all owned resources. It becomes increasingly difficult to remember which program has a specific title, similar to having bookshelves in different parts of the house and garage
Logos has almost all Olive Tree titles with thousands of additional titles. Sadly Olive Tree has only a small fraction of the titles available to Logos
Exactly right!!
There's no doubt that Logos is the platform of choice in the Bible sweepstakes but as one user who has invested almost as much in Olive Tree I find it hard to let go. MikeInMinnesota
This is a great video however there are a couple of things I think should be mentioned…
1 Although Logos has these packages if you will pay close attention to them some of the resources in the packages are either public domain or free online. Therefore sometimes it’s not as much of a values.
2 Logos sometimes makes computers run quite hard. It can be slow unless you have an updated strong machine.
3 Olive Tree is based around app functionality. The Olive Tree experience on app based software is far superior.
Those are great points to be sure!
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews one of my very first complaints when I had Logos is how slow it ran on the PC I was using.
I had hard time binging myself to buy public domain works from Logos. But scrolling through a long scanned PDF isn’t pleasant or efficient either. It’s been pretty fast on my computer so far.
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews nice! Hey… As long at it is working well for you… That’s what matters!
I love the video. Logos is powerful and addictive. My advise, if you are just starting out, skip everything else and go straight to Logos!
I've never really used Olive Tree, but logos has been a game changer. All those resources in one place, easily searched, referenced and linked to the Bible. Also between their sales and monthly free books it isn't horrendous for the bank balance!
Have you ever looked at Accordance? It isn't as good overall like logos, but is considered by many to be better for Hebrew and Greek studies
I have. But not that much. I hate to say it, but I doubt they are around in 20 years. I hope I’m wrong about that. Logos is gobbling up companies. Sadly I don’t see them lasting.
It’s the ESV, which is not my preferred translation.
"Thumbs up" for making me laugh about your sponsors. LOL
I know that dead trees are a pain to store and move, but I am reluctant to move away from them and have always had a hard time reading books on screens. Now if they come out with a Linux version I might be more interested.
Yes I totally understand that. I love paper books too. Sadly they are disappearing. Many sets are disappearing quickly
Amen, I am waiting for the Linux version or even a web version would help.
Do you mean LOGOS? Did you use the Linux version of Logos? I wonder what was your experience? I like to have the software on Linux so that I can integrate it into my ecosystem of note taking using the Zettelkasten method.
What I love about olive tree is that it includes some copyrighted bibles freely like the NKJV, NIV, ESV (Global Study Bible), etc. and includes the Byzantine text and the Textus Receptus for free too
Yes that’s a huge blessing! How have you been Nathaniel? Have you started your Greek studies yet?
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews Yes I'm doing fine. I started and my Greek is improving. the copy of the TR really helped me a lot and I thank you for that
I have friends who had works in Libronix for a long time, which became Logos and are now still supported. So the longevity was a huge pro to me. With that said, I’ve predominantly been a Mac user the past couple decades and Olive Tree seemed a lot better for Mac, but at this point I have so much money invested in Logos I can’t switch.
Yes. I think Logos has the best shot being here 25 years from now.
I have both and have invested heavily in books for both. I like using the Logos on my home computer because it is very flexible and customizable, but they have no app. So I use the Olive Tree app on my tablet because it is very beneficial to have at church Bible studies and sermons.
Logos does have an app for both Google, Apple, and Kindle platforms. I do agree that the OliveTree mobile app is far easier to use than Logos, but they do have one. Could also use the Logos website to have access to all your resources.
@@dustyladyv I misquoted that statement. I meant to say that the app is very limited and nothing like the online experience. It would be helpful if the app had windows where the books would follow the Bible text. But I do love the online usage and use it above Olive Tree on my PC. I only use Olive Tree on my tablet while at church. We do not have internet at church.
Thanks for your reply.
I’ve just started in focused bible study and have been enjoying using the free LOGOS software. It does seem strange that there are more free resources available on mobile than in the desktop app though. The mobile app is really great, but the desktop really much more productive. I just wish I could get all the same resources I have access to on my phone into the desktop version.
I have invested in resources on both OT and Logos. I agree with you that for those who like using the iPad, OT is better as it’s primarily a mobile app and has a better workflow and easier to use interface. Otherwise for those who are primarily Macbook or PC users, Logos (or Accordance) is better - I agree the OT apps on MacOS and Windows are quite primitive in comparison.
I have used Olive Tree but I find Logos more organized and easier to use. Seems to have more features than Olive Tree for Bible teachers like me. All of the components work together well. Logos is available for as little as $10/month.
Helpful video. I own both and find value in both of them although I'd probably sell my Logos library if someone would be interested. Logos is more powerful. Olive Tree is far simpler for most people to use.
That’s what I concluded. For especially for primarily mobile users it’s probably the best option.
Hi, I am considering to use Logos, can you give me what you have in Logos and how much you intend to sell them for, thanks?
I used Olive Tree for a number of years and still have it, but as a layperson there is one area where Logos is just much better. Notes and highlights. Olive Tree is simpler to use, but it's notes and highlights features are too simple. Logos has way more flexibility and functionality. Custom highlight pallets, ability to insert pictures, bullet points/numbering, This was a big reason I moved to Logos. Of course Logos has a bigger library and more features overall, but notes and highlights is something I use daily and value highly.
I think your right, I have picked all the books I want from it so I consider my ipad a replacement to a heavy paper bible with a bolt on tool kit. I accept that I will use all the main book readers, Kindle, Play Books and apple books and there will always be paper books. Because my eyes are not as good as they have been, the ipad fonts are great which is why I am getting more use to devices over paper books. I love my books. No time for TV!
go for legacy packages on logos. there even cheeper than current base packages.
I don't have any experience with Olive Tree but I am long time user of Logis. Love the linking of the resources but I know I have only scratched the surface with all it can do
I feel exactly the same way about only scratching the surface.
Start with Logos 9 Fundamentals gets you going, I wish I had. I'm in it for about 7Gs and still looking to do real in depth study, not having the back ground that mite of saved me! MP Seminars would help.
Never used Logos, been using Olive Tree for many years. I don’t see any reason to switch, but thanks.
Is "Biblesoft" not a consideration any more? I use to sell tons of that software in the early/mid nineties. I would imagen that it's on the same level as Olive Tree?
I’m not familiar with it unfortunately.
For me, I'm after software to compare the Septuagint, Samaritan Pentateuch, Dead Sea Scrolls, Latin Vulgate and a modern translation like KJV, NKJV, ESV, NASB2020.
Which software does that
Which starter packages do you recommend for logos?
I think I should do a whole video on this one. Depends on your interests, I recommend starting with a very small package at first.
I love Logos. I found it before Olive Tree and have had it for years, and so became invested in it first. I can't really switch: I use Linux and now I can run Logos without a VM. I'd rather not revisit that life habit.
A significant problem with Logos is that Faithlife can be shady sometimes. Fortunately they're getting better. They seem to be correcting things before a scandal hits, which makes me glad.
Hello, Sir. Excuse me.
I have a question about the purchase (Olive Tree):
If we purchase a book (my wishlist book is "BDAG") on our Android application, will it link to our Windows application?
So we'll be able to access the same book on two different OS's, doesn't it?
Thanks in advance
Yes indeed
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews well.. thanks, Sir 🙏
Thank you, Pastor 🌹🌹🌹🌹
There are 3 software, logos bible, e-sword, olive tree. All are good tools. The most free options are e-sword. But all software do have free options. The best way is to try it out, it is a preference. Logos bible is a bit more advanced, but not to hard to learn. E-sword is very simple to understand, and so is olive tree. I have all of them.
Hi, brother! I have been using Logos for about 5 years. If you ever have questions about doing something in the software, I would be happy to catch you on a video chat and help you out!
Thank you very much!
I've been using logos inconsistently for a couple years and have been watching some of the videos recently trying to really acclimate myself to some serious bible study. I'm building up the courage to purchase logos 10 but if you're still offering that video chat help I'd like to take you up on your offer. Thanks.
Thank you, Brother 🌹🌹🌹🌹
The Olivetree Books are a continuous scroll with no page or location reference so when you go back to a particular book the last location is exposed as the page to continue from but you have no reference to tell you what chapter or location you are at.
It gets worse when you go from one device to another and even worse when you go from an IPad to a PC as the history is not synchronised across devices like a Kindle does.
It behaves well stepping forward to new locations but try and figure out where you are at the start or in a book currently in progress that’s a debacle.
You buy a set of commentaries and it treats the 20 or 50 volumes as a single book.
This system needs location or page numbers like every other book you buy whether it’s electronic or printed on paper.
Fancy leaving location reference out of the software!
On a positive note my reading has dramatically increased. It was a long time before Olivetree installed a guide that was designated for iphones but should have said also for ipads. There ia a two finger swipe that effectively take you back in history to a precise location in the most previous book read on that particular device which helps whilst on that device. Book ribbons do get synced so they help but on a microsoft PC the dates of the ribbons are missing. I am told the ribbon at the bottom of the list is the most recent. I dont have any experience in logos but have many of the start up packages books already. I find typing notes unnatural with free thought so often I create a notebook or new section in Microsoft Onenote and then use an on an iPad drawing more freely hand written notes onto a screen shot and when finished my session, sending those screen shot photos into that OneNote recently created notebook.
The same method of screen shoting I also apply to PDFs or other books I have in Kindle, google Play IBooks . Those same screen shots I can also add more underlines or type additional typed notes or hand written notes with plenty of space for more thoughts using the pencil. I have found often using an Ipad I dont have to go back to headquarters to get in front of a PC but can freely add more though and content when aat the beach or simply reviewing at a cafe.
Olive Tree needs a lot of work but I do like the off line availability. The worst thing you can do is to forget to hit sync before and at the end of a session. If you dont do this and you simply pick it up where you left off you will loose that sessions history. Compared to paper books its a fast way to get around but paper books are a way to soak in the information.
I have just started Accordance 13 bible software as well. Not sure on that one except first impression is there are alot of books not available on a phone. So far my work around is as above. I can draft my thoughts and notes easily with the screen shot method and OneNote combination.
LOL quick shoutout to the sponors of the video........yeah, uh..no sponsors lol
Not a pastor and do not have a congregation behind me and I am retired, also I have my KJV extensively marked up with many personal notes and highlights in Olive Tree. I do not believe that their is a export to move my personal notes and highlights to Logos so I believe I will save $750 and keep my Olive Tree.
That’s probably wise, I think.
I found olive tree difficult to use. I bought a digital bible for my fire tablet for 16.00. I love it and didn't think I would. Yes I love paper book
I have found Olive Tree to be much easier to use especially on my ipad. Although logos has so much to offer.
Summed up the whole video! Exactly
I have numerous books in Olivetree and the navigation is TERRIBLE.
It has no page or location numbers and leaves you wondering where the heck you are in a book and the task of multi choice guessing when you might be.
Portability is great but it’s like surfing the web type experience.
The email support is prompt but the issue is the software is not user friendly like you would expect a regular book library to be like.
A newspaper, a book, a kindle book, ect HAVE PAGE NUMBERS or location but NOT Olivetree. It really does leave you often up a creek with out a paddle!
You just can’t beat a paper book.
Agreed!
Amazing information 👍
your library is very distracting lol but thank you for the information brother God bless
Thanks
I got e-sword and a fair number of free resources but am yet to really use it so Logos and Olive Tree would probably be wasted on me.
Logos is definently had more functionality and books available..... EXCEPT Logos for some reason has chosen to have zero majority text english translations.
I just wish there was a FREE Bible software program. Sorry, but my husband & I are retired & on a strict budget.
FREE is the price for Blue Letter Bible. It has LOTS of content, tools (the search function alone is incredible) and highly customizable for personal use. You get the entire BLB with the download ( which is updated periodically) and an occasional request for a donation).
praise the only true living LORD and GOD bless you all glory be to the HOLY TRINITY forever and ever amen 💖✝️✝️✝️
Thanks for watching
My two cents.
Olive tree for 90% of folks out there. Logos for the 10% who are really serious about more in depth study.
Probably a very good summary
Thanks
Logos is where it’s at. I’ve accumulated a pretty big digital library over the years.
Only fitting that Logos of Fire should use Logos Bible software 🙂
I love Accordance
I'm 56 yeas old and olive tree wasn't easy for me compared to anazons
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I find e-sword easy to use....-
Missing BibleWorks
I never got into Bibleworks unfortunately
Neither are actual Bibles if there are only 66 books. The Holy Scriptures have 82 books ( Ethiopian Bible), true teaching of the Almighty God.
*The Ethiopian bible has been supernaturally changed by the AC into his UNholy word just like every other version has been.*
@@residuejunkie4321Amen
E sword is better than both
What do you like better about e-sword?
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews the different greek texts the commentaries maps eg Keil and delitzsch RWP TR LXX with strongs numbers etc all free in fact I am fortunate to still have the android app which seems to have more than the PC
@@BiblicalStudiesandReviews in fact the Greek and Hebrew text also have the tenses etc great for word search and parsing
I've used e-Sword and am a long-time Logos user (since 2000). e-Sword is a great value, but It' not "better" (whatever that means) than Logos. It doesn't have near the power, capabilities, or resources. But it doesn't cost near as much and is great for a layman or someone who won't or can't spend a lot, which brings OT back into the conversation. Accordance is closest to Logos re:capabilities/features and is said to be a bit more capable with complex original language work. But if someone (especially, as mentioned before, a pastor, seminary student, Bible college/seminary prof, or committed layman) wants the most powerful, capable Bible software program, Logos is the superior choice.
@@lloydcrooks712 Is there a place where the Android App can still be downloaded? There is one called "MySword", but that just bothers me for some reason. I used to use esword on my android, but now its gone.
I wouldn't buy from Logos if everything was half price. They can't be trusted!