Drum Teacher Reacts: KAI HAHTO | Wintersun | 'Sons Of Winter And Stars' (Drum Playthrough)
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thank you very much Andrew!
Thank YOU!
New fan here. 🥁👊
Wow. Love your work.
Loistavaa nähdä sun aktiivisuutta näissä reaktio videoissa, törmännyt useampaan kertaan 😎 ja ei muuta kun Loistavaa jatkoa ja jaksamista 👌😎
Listen to the entire song and you will hear all the other tones shine through even with the speed
Hands down the best drummer Finland has ever produced.
Kai is the nicest and most humble guy you'll ever get to meet. I too have taken lessons from Kai and stayed at their home during that time. After the first days lessons we ate, drank some red wine and watched Todd Suchermans Methods and Mechanics. What a legend!
Now that sounds fun. What an experience!
Kai is the sort of technical monster that little metal drummers aspire to be when they grow up. Dude is scary good.
The fact this man was over his career so far with Rotten Sound, Swallow the Sun, Wintersun and now Nightwish is a testament to his versatility. Fantastic drummer.
And yet Kai considers himself as a jazz-drummer... well his background is in jazz...
Wow I love wintersun and recently found swallow the sun which blew my mind with how good they were but had no clue it was him on drums as well.
It's actually kind of obvious once it's pointed out. Feel kinda dumb I didnt make the connection.
@@6ic6ic6ic Only for 2 albums, actually. That includes New Moon though, which is my favorite album of theirs, right next to Hope. ;)
"Is this their Magnum Opus, is this Kai's time in the sun"......erm no, this is just Wintersun!!! Literally every track is like this!!
HAHA! Awesome Richard
@@AndrewRooneyDrums I would have to agree. I don't think there is a magnum opus, it's all kind of like this. Kai is an absolute legend. Great vid Andrew!
I mean they also take 10 years for an album (that I happily wait for no problem) so they can do that, and make every song basicly a magnum opus
Jari, the lead singer and the composer/writer, has said Starchild is his personal Magnum Opus - they have a remastered 2.0 version on YT - lyric video only though
Some Interviewer: Hey Kai what do you do for a living?
Kai: I play drums for Nightwish.
SI: You seem to be in very good shape what do you do for exercise?
Kai: I play drums for Wintersun.
SI: Well if you play drums for a living, and for exercise what do you do for fun?
Kai: I play Jazz drums. ua-cam.com/video/K3naB-LGhmQ/v-deo.html
😃😂🤘❤️
and have been playing in band that do songs for kids :D kai is just awesome. and im lucky to play with him one of his clinics early 2000 and try to jam with him but ofc he outplayed me and told to keep practising.
I had the pleasure of taking a weekend of lessons with Kai a couple of years back.
You definitely got that that practicer part right; he said that he still, even after 40+ years of playing the drums, aims to practice an hour every single day, with mirrors in front of him, and both the left and the right side of him, on a practice pad, just working on his hand technique. And you could really tell that.
You're also spot on about him being such a nice and a humble guy.
I practice skin flute in front of mirror and on my left and right side working on my hand technique everyday.
i had the chance to work for him as his tech and he was so nice he just told me to build his drum kit like i felt like and it would be fine... he didnt even change the drum kit even tho i saw him try to learn the kit... he didnt want to bother me more than needed... i was paid to do it...
I had the honor of sitting behind Kai Hahto's kit on a Wintersun gig some eight years ago and it was mindblowing. The normal reaction would be to curl up in a fetal position and cry about how you will never be that good . But after you get past that it is one of the most inspiring thing of my drumming career. I learned more on that night than I had for years.
Kai is a beast! 🔥🔥He's a very kind person and very humble, you can tell that only from his interviews. He is also always very respectful of his bandmates. Thanks for this reaction. And its one song.
It was great to see how his bandmates in Nightwish accepted him so readily after Jukka left. It could have turned into a problem; instead it turned into something so wonderful.
@@mikegershon8528 I believe Kai and Jukka are at least some what friends, I read somewhere that it was Jukka's idea for Kai to fill in for him in Nightwish. it also helps that Jukka left without bad blood between him and the other members. Jukka is also still active with Nightwish behind the scenes.
From jazz to grindcore Kai does it all.
One very long song. In the middle of the song is break from drums but Kai takes a swig then improvises through what was a drum break. He’s a beast for sure. Where does he get that energy?!
I saw Kai yesterday at Vaasa festival (Finland). He really is humble and nice guy.
I bet!
Sons of Winter and Stars is one song, with a little 'acoustic' guitar (no drums) section in the middle. It gives Kai some time to drink some water, wipe his face and check his kit. It's only a one and a half minute break though in a song of 13.5 minutes. Fun fact: he did drum some improvised bits over the part that is actually his break.
Not 2 songs.... 1 song with a break for acoustic interlude. You're right - the man is a BEAST! If you haven't already, you should listen to the actual song - live studio playthrough. You'll enjoy how Kai's drumming fits with the music.
and in the drum brake he insisted to just bash the drums anyway for the fun on if!
Working with metal musicians from Finland is usually a treat, I much prefer working there to here at home in Sweden. Finland is so much more chill and there is a lot less bs in the studio.
Good to know!
Now imagine there are guys like Heikki Saari (Finntroll, Whorion, etc) for example, who had to learn this song among all the rest of the Wintersun catalogue to fill in for Kai Hahto when he was busy touring with Nightwish :D
Good lord. HAHA
I´ve seen Wintersun live twice and both times with Rolf Pilve on the drums, and he definitely deserves some credit too. But I´ve seen Heikki with Finntroll as well and the guy is a beast on the drums as well. Same goes for Jocke Wallgren from Amon Amarth or Daniel Erlandsson from Arch Enemy, to bring in some swedish "counterparts"...I assume to play drums in metal and especially extreme metal, you need to bring a decent amount of talent and skills and tons of practice. (doesn´t mean you need to bring that for other genres of music as well though)
@@brothernemiel6465 Since we're naming names, let's not forget Timo Häkkinen, who also played some shows with Wintersun! There are many absolute monsters out there!
There is video Heikki Saari playing with Wintersun, pleas check out ua-cam.com/video/SRKFbo3Qgzc/v-deo.html
In a band like this, it doesn't really work unless everyone is on the same level. In this case, that level is outer space. They're all just crazy. He definitely is a beast. Nice work Rooney.
I've taken three 6 hour long drum lesson sessions from Kai and he really leveled me up!
Fun fact: Kai is left handed but plays a right handed kit. 😁
I’d give my right arm to be ambidextrous…! ~Yogi Berra
That would make Kai the "Jimi Hendrix" of drums.
Then I have at least one thing in common with Kai. I've always felt it was foolish to start learning a new skill, especially one that uses both hands like drumming, as a leftie. Why bother turning everything around every time I go to a lesson or a gig with a shared kit? I just learned the way most people play drums.
I know little to nothing about drumming, but I play Snooker and Billiards as a hobby - and I for myself as a right handed person play Billiards with my left hand - and I know why: I am left eye dominant, so when I put a queue under my chin my left eye is dominantly producing the picture to my brain (and centers it around it, perspective wise) and my right eye is completing the picture.
I don't know if that might be a factor with drumming, but I know a lot of sports rely on the dominant eye rather than hand dominance.
But even if this doesn't matter to drumming - Kai is a beast :D
@@marcel1416 I would assume eye dominance is not a big factor in drumming because I spend like half my practice time with my eyes closed to feel my way around the drums rather than seeing it, but I would be a weirdo and everybody else in the world uses their dominant eye. What do I know?
This guy is a human metronome.
I'm more used to see him with Nightwish than Wintersun. Both him and Jukka Nevalainen (former Nightwish drummer) are pure beasts.
Can’t wait to see/hear more Nicola! 🥁🙌
The vibes I get from them are that Jukka is a soul trapped in flesh who experiences freedom through playing the drums, while Kai is a machine with a soul that he expresses through his drums. One is about the experience of the expression, and the other is about expression through an experience; a subtle but meaningful difference which makes for two distinct but equally impressive and entertaining viewing experiences.
@@Trevor21230 One of the cool analogies that I have read is that Jukka is the Sith Lord and Kai is the Jedi Knight...
That was epic. Its so much better to hear the playthrough than the recording from a drummer's point of view. The stuff Kai does with Nightwish is like his retirement plan compared to Wintersun.
or also "a step higher", now he can play more calmly (not worse, he remains very good) and he probably earns twice as much and still plays and plays metal. What can you expect? I would also like to ...
Kai has played with his own style in Nightwish. After every 2 hour concert he is the sweatiest human on earth for a while.
I dunno Tribal was pretty well done. He had to expand his drum kit to cover it
Well, compared to Wintesun, maybe, but Nightwishe’s drums are no joke either, and considering how seamlessly they blend into the songs and melodies is a testament to how well they’ve been put together and played.
The previous Nightwish drummer Jukka was actually mentored by Kai, so also in that sense it makes sense how well his style fits Nightwish
Yeah. Nightwish isn’t as intense as Wintersin but the technicalities are still there. Kai adds his own flare. I remember when he first joined and I saw and interview and he said that some songs took a while to get down. That section in the middle of Storytime in particular took him a while to nail.
I sometimes think how lucky it is that Kai and Jari met and collaborated.
Jari got piece of art drums for his songs, and Kai got an opportunity to unleash his talent at 100%.
Notice also his foot work. For example at 16:51 you can see him closing the hi-hat with his left foot while doing double kick.
Thanks for taking a look at the video.
I was in the crowd and tried my camera for the first time that day, so
sorry for the shaky hand and the sound.(I was too excited to watching
him and got distracted sometimes... )
The cut in the middle was tho the fact that I didnt know the song at
that time and thought it was over... luckily i pressed the record button
again.
Kai told me afterwards that is was his first clinic outside of finland.
Also since he was explaining and showing some techniques to the
crowd (playing/talking/playing/talking...) he had to play the whole
song out of the cold, what was quite challenging.
He said "there is no way he is gonna keep it up" I went "PFFFFFFFFFFFFFT" and then came the meme and I lol'd.
The look on his face when playing! It really feels like he is having so much fun to be honest!
The oxytocin in "that accuracy is out of control" deserves a meme LOL
Not 2 songs, just one long unforgiving beast, although there is a drum free instrumental in the middle. You should check out the studio recording of this song.
That DrumTalk interview is good for knowing him better😉
I have watched this video around a thousand times. I'm gonna watch it yet again. I love this man!
So good!
I can confirm, he is a nice guy. Really chill and down to earth. 🤙🏻 and of course, an amazing drummer! 🤘🏻
I love the joy that Kai brings to his performances. You can just see it in the way he smiles. Carol, my wife of 41 years, and I had the great joy of watching him perform with Nightwish on May 18th, 2022, at the Warfield Theatre in San Francisco... and it was pure magic. What an amazing night. Thank you Kai and thank you Andrew for taking us through this drummer's breakdown.
Yes he uses an auxilliary high hat as you noticed on his previous performance with Nightwish. By the way it might be worth listening to the whole performance to appreciate how the drumming fits into the song.
Kai has also tought like half the finnish metal drummers, my drummer included and is apparently the nicest dude ever, though giving some nightmarish lessons :P
HAHA! I bet
this man is greatest from alll
SO GOOD!
Kai is the best drummers in the World! From Finland 🇫🇮
at 16:50 that hi-hat choking when he is playing doubles :D
One of the best y ever
See in my life!!!!!!
MASTERPIECE 🥁🎼
This guy is a Monster
Kai you are great🇫🇮
Yes! 🥁🙌
"This accuracy is outta control"! That's actually the truth :D
The whole thing is one huge, 14-minute song, but it has got four "movements":
The first two parts start at 2:48 and 6:25.
The third part starts at 13:10 (the camera briefly pauses at 13:14). This part is normally without drums, and gives Kai some time to drink and dry off his sweat. Although, this time he is actually playing on most of this part.
The final part starts at 14:59.
Thank you!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums you're welcome :-) I really recommend listening to the "normal" version of this song (Sonic Pump Studios live rehersal). You will find that Kais drumming is not just technical; it really fits into the song as well. You will also find out that the song is really great :-)
@@AndrewRooneyDrums ua-cam.com/video/Tl5T-glTdXw/v-deo.html
well if you reach that level of mastery and you haven't learned humility from the journey to get there, you've learned nothing.
Hats down to Mr Kay Hahto.
Kai Hahto is on this moment one off the greatist drummer .
Kai is a beast! Hope someday you could react to Nightwish - Weak Fantasy drum cam with Kai’s drum solo intro
I'll get there!
@@AndrewRooneyDrums Yes, well worth it. BTW, thank you for all your great vids and the time you've put into them. Much appreciated!
Looking forward to this one. Blast beats and coffee. Best way to start your day.
I recommend Kai's "Tips and Tricks" video of this song. With his normal set up he kids the left bass while using his heel to kick his HH.
Kai playing with Rotten Sound will melt your face. React to the Rotten Sound - Obey drum cam.
Be sure to check out his Rotten Sound videos too! You'll be even more amazed! Kai is a beast!
Yeah... he played Rotten Sound without tick track on top of that...
@@ssc00p True! And Rotten Sound were groovy af with Kai too! He complemented their songwriting very well!
You should check out as much Wintersun as possible! incredibly talented folk.
Here is a video of Kai talking about the techniques, timings and polyrhythms he uses in this song.
ua-cam.com/video/BGMbHHgga18/v-deo.html
This one will be...🔥🔥🔥
I love that. 'He won't be able to keep that up for the full 13 minutes'
Well, no, it gets harder, and then they give him a little acoustic break. Amazing drummer, amazing band
So many fkn parts to remember and he just beyond jigsaw pieces it together. Phenomenal.
Masterful drumming. The full band version live is so much better when you hear the drumming in it's right element. Since the camera angle is static it doesn't really add anything.
This is going to be epic!
Several parts song, 1500 tracks. Best song ever written.
9:13-9:16
You can see Kai's technique in his right feet to 'stop' from double paddling to give way for Jari's Guitar pluck to be heard more. What a beast.
Super choice! I can't wait! C'mon, Andrew!!!
Oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy, finally. 😁
And Kai hits those drums hard.
Kai really can blast like 2 hours easily for sure! Been playing with him lot’s of tours!!!! It is just you can’t never ever play these Finnish grooves! And He is a drum educator, one of the best . So wanted to see ya even try that 😃🤣 you don’t have enough Skills 😂😂🧐
The fact that Kai had the drum fill, WHERE HE DOESNT DRUM IN STUDIO. What a machine.!
I subscribed! I commented to get you to 400 comments. You are an excellent producer thank you for showcasing Kai
Thanks Patrick!
If you want to have it on good sound quality, check out the same song but as a live reherseal version.
Kai also spent time in NY studying Jazz drumming.
Andrew, if you ever get back to watching Kai, playing Nightwish. There is a new drum clinic of Kai doing Noise by Nightwish posted about 3 months ago from the Finnish Drummers Association Drum clinic back in 2021. Just to compare to what he was doing with Wintersun.
Kai is so good Pearl won't tell him what drums they give him, "here's a hybrid set, super secret, try it".... He's the SR-71 or X-15 pilot of drums, very elite crew
Having met Kai, he is extremely nice and super passionate, infectious human being.
Wow! What a performance! Drumming on the highest level. Overwhelming!
Truly awesome 😎 So many styles nice to enjoy another drummer new to me!!👍👍🔥
The Machine 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻!!!
How have I not see that video of Kai, what legend
It's like a drum solo during the whole song...amazing talent. Saw him live with Rotten Sound a few years back. Mindblowing!
Kai is such a great drummer and a humble person. Appreciate to see he is getting love and respect for his amazing skills and the amount of training.
Glad he joined Nightwish.
Black Forrest Platoon reporting
Ps. There was no real break between the parts, the video was just cut half for some unknown reason. (In the video i included earlier you see the the whole thing without breaks)
"The accuracy is out of control" 🤣 that meant something else
I was giggling a bit too at that 😁
Best drummer !!
So good Ari!
Awesome. Glad you got to this song/performance.
Lol thats Kai basically on almost every Wintersun song.
1 song 2 parts.
damn, I've always loved Kai Hahto, but never actually thought about his accuracy. He's like a machine, 100% locked in to the tempo. Alex Rüdinger is the second one that comes to my mind with as precise playing. In those straight parts the groove is so precise it almost doesn't sound human at all. Thankfully he also has great humane groove on the not-so-straight parts lol
Kai Hahto perfection live is insane too, rotten sound in general had some insane speed with Hahto on the drums.
You should have checked this out in the live studio rehearsals. There you can hear all the instruments and how crazy this song accually is.
He was destined to be a legendary drummer... his name is an anagram of HI HAT A OK
😮🥁🙏🙌
@@AndrewRooneyDrums and Andrew Rooney is an anagram of "Annoyed Rower"
@@WynEvans1 That's something ANYONE can REWORD
@@anttipere7220 you are absolutely correct Trainee Pi
@@WynEvans1 Yep. I read it on navy news
So many colors to his swings!
jeezus!!! dude is balls! I'm floored.... just started and I feel the need to comment
It‘s really worth watching the official video of that song, which is filmed in a studio.
Another great song by Wintersun and Kai is „Time“. Also filmed in that studio.
Dude is amazing!!!!
If you haven't already have a listen to the Sonic Pump Studios version of this track (full band live rehearsal), seen them a couple of times and Kai was good enough to indulge my fanboyism and take a few seconds to shake my hand on his way off stage one of those times. Great drummer and a nice dude :)
Just one big epic song!!!
There is also a drum cam of this with his double bass setup.
Thats one song 🤘🏻🤘🏻
Hahto is a great guy, he was my drum teacher for a while back in the day. I was a kid but i remember thinking his house was the best ever. It was all metal cd:s and a bed in the middle of the living room cause the bedroom was converted to a rehersal studio... just drumkits and chinas everywhere xD
Kai is the beast!!!... Hail from Indonesia
Do Rotten Sound! There's plenty of drum cams from their gigs.
Kai is a god, there is nothing else to say
As other's have mentioned it is one song but that interlude, the part where you were questioning this is acoustic and does not have drums during it but Kai went nuts here. As if 15 min song is not hard enough he had impromptu drum solo in the middle of it! x)
I subscribed and now I’m above average size, wish I knew !
Thank you Andrew :D
Anyone remember Beast, the drummer from the Muppets, how they always pitched him against human drummers for an "epic drum-battle showdown"?
I think Beast would be schooled by Kai.
We have pretty good metal musicians here in Finland 🤘❤️🇫🇮
You have some of the best. The more I delve into Finnish metal the more awesome artists I keep discovering.
Ah Kai Hahto -The Metronome-man.
The studio recordings of "Hate Eternal - Faceless One" or "Hate Eternal - Behold Judas". Derek "One Take" Roddy is quite possibly one of the most technically and musically advanced drummers in the extreme metal scene, and he record directly to tape, no edits. His new project "Serpents Rise" is also amazing.
"he just laughed about it" is finish sense of humour
I am subscribed, have been for a while.