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  • Опубліковано 7 лис 2015
  • You can shower this channel with free energy at / bigclive
    This is a perplexingly complicated device that was/is heavily marketed by salesmen as an energy saving unit that will lower your electricity bill.
    The design starts out in a very traditional manner by using a device called a buck transformer. This is a transformer with a mains voltage primary and a low voltage secondary that then gets put in series with the load and drops the voltage to it (or boosts it up if wired in reverse). Then it gets quite complicated with a bank of IGBTs (Insulated Gate Bipolar Transistors) which combine the ease of driving of a MOSFET with the ruggedness of a traditional bipolar transistor. Not rugged enough though apparently as they had all failed as a dead short between their emitters and collectors with leakage to the gate too.
    I'm not sure if the design actually controlled the output voltage accurately or if it was just a soft cut-in and out to avoid sudden intensity changes of lighting. The unit is actually only rated for 8A with a peak of 20A and will bypass the transformer if the load gets too high or if the transformer gets hot.
    This unit may require significant rewiring of a consumer unit to separate the heaviest loads like showers, cookers and water heaters from the controlled loads like lighting and general power. It requires its own 50A breaker and the power loops out the consumer unit and then back in to a bank of breakers for the controlled loads.
    I'm a firm proponent of keeping domestic (home) installs as simple as possible to make things reliable and safe. This beast does not fit in that category.
    At the end of the video I redesign the unit for ease of fitting and reliability and there's also a fake customer testimonial for authenticity. Ladies and gentlemen... I give you the Energy Saver 3000 plus.

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  • @Tom_Losh
    @Tom_Losh 7 років тому +100

    Clive, your ENERGY SAVER 3000+ needs to have tamper-proof screws on the outer case, and a good sized masonry brick, sealed in opaque resin, inside with a number of wires leading in and out of it, simply to give it reasonable mass for the consumer to judge it by...

    • @imark7777777
      @imark7777777 7 років тому +18

      the think the whole thing should be encased in resin on the inside and a big sticker that says no user serviceable parts

    • @steingat
      @steingat 6 років тому +11

      I'm assuming that sticker would be right next to the Apple logo?

    • @danhard8440
      @danhard8440 5 років тому +2

      OMG hilarious I just watched a vid about what they were trying to do

    • @bumboclat
      @bumboclat 3 роки тому

      Uh like those USB hard drives that have a tiny thumbdrive and a large bolt glued inside

    • @davelowets
      @davelowets Рік тому

      @@bumboclat No, those actually work...

  • @thisjt
    @thisjt 8 років тому +155

    5:00 "Made of plastic for maximum combustibility." Give this man a hug.

    • @dresnyd
      @dresnyd 8 років тому +7

      6:00*

    • @jeff-xy7qp
      @jeff-xy7qp 8 років тому +7

      I laughed so hard when he said that :)

    • @timbocolorado5389
      @timbocolorado5389 7 років тому +5

      Love his sense of humor :)

    • @tapankumarbarua7651
      @tapankumarbarua7651 7 років тому

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    • @YodaWhat
      @YodaWhat 7 років тому +7

      +TAPAN KUMAR BARUA ... You are joking, right?

  • @guywilkinson
    @guywilkinson 4 роки тому +9

    This is very interesting to me because the first version and production run was done by a company I was engineering manager for in Derbyshire.
    We did a great job of designing, proving and testing for our customer and it is an elaborate design. A cpld was used to drive the MOSFETs and control the what I maybe remember was a totem pole drive stage. There is s microcontroller to monitor things and really does flag up if it develops a fault.
    Really, my feelings on it at the time were mixed. I could see it working in areas with poorly regulated mains volt at 240v when appliances were coming out rated for the new harmonised 230v. Many products at the time were using transformers and dissipated excess energy as heat...but my concern was that new products had smps and eup directive was forcing appliance manufacturers to design in efficiency.
    Oh....and if you had electric heating it did nothing.
    Amazing post, a trip down memory lane and the engineering that went into it. It is so complicated and confusing, don't even think about trying to fix it.....but I know a man who can 😎

  • @iangarrity3030
    @iangarrity3030 8 років тому +30

    I purchased an Energy Saver 3000+ not just more or less than 2 hours ago and it's already saved me a fortune in energy bills. And I've also seen a drop in my water bill too.
    Thank you Big Clive, You're our hero.

  • @bridgendesar
    @bridgendesar 8 років тому +38

    That reminds me, I must get those fuel line magnets for my car!

    • @Mrpurple75
      @Mrpurple75 4 роки тому

      bridgendesar my first car had two aluminum covered magnets attached to the fuel line when it got it. Still have one of them after all these years

  • @XOIIOXOIIO
    @XOIIOXOIIO 8 років тому +202

    God the last bit of this video is perfect.

    • @JJayzX
      @JJayzX 8 років тому +22

      +Jesse Levesque He must be hitting that carbonated wine hard tonight, lol.

    • @KamAbbott
      @KamAbbott 8 років тому +7

      +Jesse Levesque Coffee shot out my nose..

    • @jeffstamand3978
      @jeffstamand3978 7 років тому

      Kam Abbott 🦊

    • @jamespilcher5287
      @jamespilcher5287 7 років тому +2

      Channeling the ghost of Kenny Everett

    • @zamkhirah6963
      @zamkhirah6963 4 роки тому

      @@JJayzX 😆😆😆

  • @factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7568
    @factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7568 8 років тому +302

    At 5:00 there is a big fisted dinosaur eating a doughnut. Splendid.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 років тому +47

      +Nerdy McNerdlington Mmmmm. Doughnuts.

    • @JJ_ExMachina
      @JJ_ExMachina 8 років тому +6

      +Nerdy McNerdlington HA HA I see it ... that is funny

    • @MrWeedWacky
      @MrWeedWacky 8 років тому +4

      +bigclivedotcom so, how much Ih does it save in relation to its self-use? my guess will be nothing it is gonna in fact cost money to have going. - it will be put in AFTER the meter (that is the law) so the meter will get the full flow, and this apparatus will then lower it AFTER the meter read it... (written while you were drawing the dinosaur eating a doughnut :P)

    • @OvhanDevos
      @OvhanDevos 8 років тому +1

      +bigclivedotcom Hey Clive, do these units actually save you money or energy?

    • @JJ_ExMachina
      @JJ_ExMachina 8 років тому +4

      Sean Anderson
      He explains it is the video.. it is snake oil... has no benefit at all, and can actually be rather unsafe, if too much load is pulled through the unit, possibly causing a fire.

  • @spdwebdotnet
    @spdwebdotnet 8 років тому +13

    You have intrigued me sir. I work at a power company here in the US. Our electric panels or "breaker boxes" look nothing like that here. We also only supply to the meter. The meter pan, main breaker, and any breakers past that are the home owners responsibility. We come plop the meter in and leave, once proper inspections are passed of course. You also mention the 'RCD's trip on a no power state? So if your power goes out, and you are not home, it doesn't come back on? When we close in at one of our subs everyone is coming on at once, cold load or not. We back feed and sectionalize to restore power if its a major outage to keep the load down. Now I will have to spend the next few hours researching this.

    • @JimWhitaker
      @JimWhitaker 3 роки тому

      He is not correct in saying that (in the UK) the breaker opens on no volts.

  • @graemepinnock
    @graemepinnock 8 років тому +5

    A few years ago I was cold called by a company (Sorry, can't remember the name) selling a similar but far simpler device. It was based on an Autotransformer. It's was basically a single winding transformer with taps for various voltages. The mains (in my case 246v) was connected across the entire winding and the taps allowed a lower voltage to be supplied to the consumer unit. If I remember correctly, they were aiming to reduce my mains voltage to 230v which would have resulted in around a 7% saving I was told. The advantage of this unit was there was no additional circuitry, the disadvantage is that the thing was enormous and expensive due in part to the amount of copper required for the 100A rating. I didn't get one in the end for all the reasons Clive mentioned in the video. IE anything that heats will just heat longer. Any tungsten light is much dimmer (and if you use dimmers - then you will just compensate by having them set higher - and save nothing), plus just about any modern electronic device is going to have a switch mode power supply which doesn't really care what the input voltage is (from 100v to 250v) it will just take more current to compensate for a lower voltage. The only advantage I could see from any sort of mains dropper would be that some devices might actually live longer if the voltage was lower. IE anything designed for the European Market that would dearly love to be supplied with only 230v. I would recommend that anyone who is still making a lot of use tungsten lamps considers replacing them with Warm White LED lamps. I think the technology has finally come of age. The only gotcha is that you may have to replace your dimmers with LED compatible ones.

  • @soupflood
    @soupflood 7 років тому +147

    There is no better energy saver than the mechanical switch.

    • @Spector_NS5_RD
      @Spector_NS5_RD 7 років тому +36

      i burn a pile tires in my backyard that sit underneath a vat of liquid mercury. the mercury vapor is then piped to a turbine that generates power for my meth lab. turbine's exhaust is then piped/filtered into neighbor's open kitchen window. gotta reduce your carbon footprint and all.

    • @Enclave.
      @Enclave. 7 років тому +10

      Spector NS5 RD, indeed. Using those humans as waste sponges is a very innovative approach.

    • @renzevenir4853
      @renzevenir4853 7 років тому +2

      Do you think it's possible?

    • @renzevenir4853
      @renzevenir4853 7 років тому +3

      Do you think a 80 ish watt laptop adaptor is a small thing?

    • @renzevenir4853
      @renzevenir4853 7 років тому +4

      Charging mobile phones using phone line does works, but I'm unsure it will works with laptop chargers. Even though it may draw less than the rated power, it's still way too much for a phone line to power it.

  • @supersilve
    @supersilve 7 років тому +1

    Once I came across a company who was selling these supposely energy saving device which you hook up to your consumer unit. Came the time and got one of them at hand and opened it. I just found out it only consisted of a capacitor or around 50uf and a piece of steel plate riveted to the inside of the box to add some more weight to it. Displaying the unit back at the store this device was hooked up to 4 of the old energy saving lamps that each had an iron core ballast. These where hooked with a clamp meter and the energy saving box was switched in and out displaying that with the box attached the current was less. It tends to fool you at first but I learned that POWER FACTOR IS NOT READABLE IN THE HOUSE WATT METER, and although that more current is visibly passing through you will not be paying for it. This would trick any average person that this thing really works.

  • @reprapmlp
    @reprapmlp 8 років тому +9

    Thank you, Big Clive, for making this incredible technology available to people like us.

  • @shepd3
    @shepd3 8 років тому +14

    Also I never realized UK breaker panels were so complicated!
    In North America, home breaker panels are almost always steel. Mains, after leaving the meter, connects to a main breaker typically matched to the ampacity of your connection to the power company (lower is legal, of course). This breaker also serves as a shutoff for all power in the home.
    From there normally the breaker directly feeds four rails (two per side of the service, which is fed by a center tapped transformer on a pole or on the ground--despite what you may have heard, homes here do not have two phase service). Those rails connect to the breakers stabbed onto them. And from those breakers you connect your loads. I have never seen a panel offering such a limited number of breakers, typical panels here allow installation of 40 breakers. All connection points on the breakers offer 120 volts. When you use two connection points side by side on a full size breaker you get 240 volts (you must then tie the two handles together, electricians normally just buy breakers with this already done).
    GFCIs are normally installed at the outlets where required by code (wet environments), though for special circuits (kitchen splits, if anyone does that anymore... and hot tubs) the GFCI is built into the breaker. A tripped GFCI only affects that circuit.
    AFCIs are required for bedroom circuits and part of the breaker supplying the circuit.
    Central Air-Conditioners (big units which cool an entire house with forced air) must have a separate shutoff panel installed.
    Neutral is directly tied to a single neutral bus supplying all attached circuits, which at the main panel is also bonded to both the case of the panel and ground.
    And that's pretty much it... The homeowner only has access to the main breaker, and the breakers attached to the circuits and would have to open the panel (very easy, just 4 screws for each side) to get at the wiring.

    • @chkohl1919
      @chkohl1919 4 роки тому

      @Dave Micolichek I've installed scores of 40+ space panels in homes.

    • @chkohl1919
      @chkohl1919 4 роки тому

      @Dave Micolichek Oh, yeah okay. I'm just making it up. You got me. That Square D QO 200amp 42 Space Neutral Ready panel I installed last week in a new 3,000 square foot home that will be pretty much filled with breakers doesn't exist. I'm actually a little worried that I should have installed two panels, since there were some electric floor heat, extra cooking appliances and a few other things added after I trenched in the secondary.

    • @chkohl1919
      @chkohl1919 4 роки тому

      ​@Dave Micolichek I would suggest you just admit you're wrong and move on. In 2019, a 40 space panel is bare minimum in new construction. Frankly, it has been for as long as I've been an electrician, 15+ years. Take for example the current 3000 sq foot house I"m doing. The kitchen has 2 countertop receptacle circuits. A fridge circuit. A microwave circuit. A dishwasher circuit. There will be two 240V cooking appliances. A dining room circuit. Three bedroom circuits. A living room receptacle circuit. Four general lighting/receptacle circuits. Two bathroom circuits. There's also one, maybe two 240V circuits for floor heat in the bathrooms. Washing machine circuit. 240V dryer circuit. Two garage receptacle circuits and one garage lighting circuit. The garage alone is 1600 square feet. So, that should cover the main floor. The basement will have at least a couple circuits for bedrooms and lights. The furnace always gets a dedicated circuit. Water heater is 240V and AC unit is 240V. Sump pump circuit. I'm pushing 40 spaces already and that's not including the 240V welder and air compressor outlets he wanted. Ha. Don't know if they're getting hooked up without bringing in another service. Keep in mind this is a fairly normal sized new house. Also, from my wholesaler at least, a 200A 20 space panel is more expensive than a 40 because they don't sell nearly as many.

    • @chkohl1919
      @chkohl1919 4 роки тому

      ​@Dave Micolichek Golly, I'm getting pretty embarrassed for you. You have no idea what you're talking about. The load on a service has nothing to do with breaker values. You just don't add up the numbers on the breakers. As far as your supply and demand idea, typically a product that sells more is manufactured at a more optimized efficiency, then bought by huge quantities by wholesalers who can sell them easily, so therefore that can drive the price below less demanded products. In other words, if the supply and demand are both there, it means cheaper prices. I can't wrap my mind around the idea of having less than 20 breaker spaces for a brand new house. What, is your entire kitchen on 2 breakers? Does your range, water heater and dryer all run on gas? AC Unit? I mean, that's half of a 20 space panel with just those few items and you want to tell me, an electrician, that any more breaker spaces than 20 is unnecessary? Just a thought, but how many tandem breakers does your panel have in it? I see new trailer houses with 20-24 space panels in them, but they're actually 40 circuit rated, so they're filled with tandem breakers.

    • @allhumansarejusthuman.5776
      @allhumansarejusthuman.5776 4 роки тому

      @Dave Micolichek Dude.
      It's the same breaker box between 20 breaker and 40 breaker. Just different punchouts being punched out and different front panel.
      I always bought the box and front panel separately and not punched to save the five bucks and torment whoever was my assistant that year when they pissed me off 😂
      Why ya being an ass about it eh? Your favorite dog die or sumthin?

  • @jamesgrimwood1285
    @jamesgrimwood1285 8 років тому +50

    That device would really piss off the UPS connected to my computer rack, it'd constantly trip the "supply under voltage" system that kicks in a boost transformer and the batteries to push the voltage back up to 240v :-)

  • @martingreen530
    @martingreen530 7 років тому +1

    Hello clive,
    A follow on from your past posts regarding qualified electricians in 2 weeks and a getting a dirty hands on 5 year apprenticeship.
    Our oldest daughter Rosie was doing an IT course at college when she left school.
    She came home one day and said “I quite like the course but I much prefer taking them to bit “.....From the top of my head I said “there’s no money to gain as everyone is playing that tune..... Have you thought being an electrician ?”..well chap, about a month later, she came home and said “ I’ve got a job in Burton and an apprenticeship as a maintenance electrician......well, mate, as I thought, she had a flair for it...Lecturers saw it in her, now, It’s hard to believe, 5 ½ years later, She it chief electrical technician maintaining robotics manufacturing bricks etc and last Friday got her licence to operate a “cherry picker” ....... So proud mate..... At 26 years old she is on 43K !!!!!!.
    I’m a time served machinist as was my dad....My grandfather was an electrician also.... So you are SO SO correct that a good STRONG apprenticeship is unbeatable ...... Love your posts...... I dabble myself and recently completed a 7 transistor shortwave radio...... Take Care Chap.

  • @mikecawood
    @mikecawood 5 років тому +1

    Your redesign of the unit is absolutely BRILLIANT :)

  • @timgooding2448
    @timgooding2448 7 років тому +17

    Takes 4 years to become a qualified electrician in Australia. Some of the stuff I've seen installed by people who think they know what they are doing in shocking!!

    • @lordi2009k
      @lordi2009k 7 років тому +4

      over here in the uk we have a saying that if you want something done properly then do it yourself even more of a good idea if your land lord for example the council all ways sends out someone that blatantly has no idea of what to do when trying to fix any problem (i should have become a gassy at least the combie boiler wouldn't be failing every other month or so )

    • @bjtaudio
      @bjtaudio 7 років тому +5

      No licensing system however guarantees quality work, it depends on the individual doing the work. Not all electricians do the job right either, some make short cuts to save time. Others just knowing flout the rules because they couldn't be bothered, and then when there is an incident and they lose their license they continue to work unlicensed anyway often never get caught.

    • @bjtaudio
      @bjtaudio 7 років тому +5

      According to an Electrician working at a Bunnings hardware store In Brisbane, he said there has been a large number of customers from Europe moving here to live coming into the store and buying full 100m rolls of 3 core 1mm2 flex, and are using it to illegally install GPO's on new extensions to house and daisy chaining from the existing GPO's in house. Some even run new circuits from board with 1mm2 flex with 20A C Curve mcb on it. Unlicensed, unqualified, should be using 2.5mm2 building cable, in-adequate mechanical protection of cable, failure to install RCD, placing GPO'S in Zone 1 and 2, a GPO inside a shower for example, active and neutral reversed on plate, no earth connected left hanging. No problem until there is an incident, easy just leave the country to avoid prosecution.

  • @Slider68
    @Slider68 8 років тому +4

    At 15:05 you state that the current is constant through the entire system from input to output - But - transformers (even toroidal buck transformers) still have to conform to conservation of energy laws. If the current was truly constant then configuring the transformer to bump the voltage up would be able to create "free energy" (and really save on your power bill). Unfortunately that isn't possible.
    Basically if a transformer is used to lower the voltage, VAin equals VAout so in this case the output current is increased compared to the input current. Discounting losses the input power and output power are essentially the same.
    As far as using this thing to save energy I fully agree with you. There are very few modern devices that running on a lower voltage than designed are able to save energy while still functioning well.

    • @Kris_M
      @Kris_M 8 років тому +1

      +Slider68 At least one other noticed that slight mistake... Anyway, the device will probably waste more energy itself than it could ever save.

  • @musicinspire1745
    @musicinspire1745 5 років тому

    Good for you, Clive. Dropping voltage only forces loads to draw more current in order to achieve the same POWER necessary for operation. P=VI. Then voltage (V) drops, in order to power (P) to remain the same, current (I) must increase. For those who are mathematically challenged, plug in some numbers, and do not allow P to change, and you will see what's happening.

  • @DantalionNl
    @DantalionNl 8 років тому +7

    Not to mention reducing the voltage of the mains would make higher currents if the device has its own switch mode power supply. Then because of the high currents your mains wiring gets hot when. when copper wire gets hot its resistance increases causing even more loss.

    • @guywilkinson
      @guywilkinson 4 роки тому +1

      This was designed at a time when nearly everything was a transformer and mains supply was 240v and most new appliances were rated at 230v.

  • @GGigabiteM
    @GGigabiteM 8 років тому +23

    The only country in the world that uses 100 V mains is Japan, but it gets more strange when the east side of the country uses 50 Hz switching frequency while the west side uses 60 Hz.

    • @GGigabiteM
      @GGigabiteM 8 років тому +2

      +Ollyweg 0 The grids would have to be isolated because mixing 50 and 60 Hz would most definitely cause nasty problems.

    • @GluteMaximuz
      @GluteMaximuz 5 років тому

      Hmmm?

    • @katrinabryce
      @katrinabryce 5 років тому +1

      @@GGigabiteM Two completely separate grids with some DC links between them, much like the DC links between Scotland & Northern Ireland, and between England & France.

    • @johnsalmons9222
      @johnsalmons9222 4 роки тому

      @@katrinabryce DC links between countries respective grids?? Are you using a euphemism?

    • @johncrowerdoe5527
      @johncrowerdoe5527 4 роки тому +1

      @@johnsalmons9222 Those are real. But not at all borders, only borders between the big fully phase synchronized grids. In Europe, those are the big continental grid and the Scandinavian grid. I don't know if the British isles are on the continental grid or their own grid. Before 1989, much of the East block had their own grid too, with short DC links at a few border points.

  • @lwilton
    @lwilton 8 років тому +9

    My energy company does pay me.
    But then my energy saver is a 16KW solar array, and I live in a fairly sunny location. :-)
    No LEDs on it, but there are LCD screens on the inverters.

    • @AAAyyyGGG
      @AAAyyyGGG 6 років тому

      I WANT ONE OF THOSE!!! :-))

    • @danhard8440
      @danhard8440 5 років тому +1

      what is the power bank that your using or is it pipped into the grid?

  • @bearcat8691
    @bearcat8691 8 років тому +59

    WOW!! Where can I buy a Energy Saver 3000+?!?! I want the power company to pay ME!! Look!! Blinky lights!!!
    Great video!

    • @drearchon2079
      @drearchon2079 6 років тому +1

      ur paid by the big electric company

    • @antonfloor344
      @antonfloor344 5 років тому +1

      IT doesn’t work listen to what men says

    • @aaronmicalowe
      @aaronmicalowe 5 років тому +2

      Duct tape on the wife will save much energy :P

    • @zamkhirah6963
      @zamkhirah6963 4 роки тому

      @@aaronmicalowe 🤣🤣🤣

    • @trevorvanbremen4718
      @trevorvanbremen4718 4 роки тому

      The Energy Saver 3000+ does not HAVE 'blinky lights'... That feature is only on the Energy Saver 8000. I can upgrade your Energy Saver 3000+ for only US$350
      Edit:
      555 timer with capacitor / resistor running on a capacitor dropper bridge etc. Estimate parts cost at about US$5.00... Hmmm, better make it US$500 for the 'upgrade'.
      Next years upgrade will involve an RGB LED too (MSRP US$2100)

  • @abyssalreclass
    @abyssalreclass 8 років тому +7

    FYI, Japan uses 100v service. Just so you know. Interesting video, I never did put much stock in "energy saving" types of devices

    • @abyssalreclass
      @abyssalreclass 8 років тому +3

      IDK about different voltages, but I do know that some areas use 50 Hz and others use 60 Hz

  • @bjtaudio
    @bjtaudio 7 років тому +37

    Reducing the voltage is actually less efficient, as if things run longer such as heaters there is more time for heat to be lost during the heat up period. Because most appliances require the same amount of energy to run, they will just draw more current which in most cases is less efficient, so it will end up costing you more not less, then you add the power losses in the unit itself. Also the 8 amp rating is far far too small, but the real killer is all the electricians cost to install it, plus the cost to purchase the unit itself. Also the device is very complicated and reliability will be poor.

    • @danhard8440
      @danhard8440 5 років тому +1

      ya that's what he was saying its fish oil salesman type thing lol

    • @Tore_Lund
      @Tore_Lund 5 років тому +1

      @@danhard8440 Another approach would be to put a Boost+buck converter in the box to always have perfect 0.99 power factor. Then run your whole house on 325V DC! Would mess up the use of AC motors but would save the acclaimed 10-15% on your power bill.

    • @knusern666
      @knusern666 4 роки тому

      Calling an elechikken for instalation of such a device is like holding a sign saying, im an idiot! charge me doble

    • @hvachacker586
      @hvachacker586 3 роки тому

      Only thing i can see atleast with space heating is modulation of heat to 80% might lead to less over and under setpoint. If power factor is maintained and minimal controling device draw maybe you could see some minmal savings. 300+ pounds and short life cycle Nope. In the states i was at a home show and a booth had a small PFC for single phase power. I asked if i could see the inside. He said it was sealed from factory with a aluminum rivit. My guess is the demo unit with two amp probes had a similar device buck transformer to drop voltage and it was a tungsten lamp. I know when i set up dim modules you can some times cut max to as low as 70% and not see much notable light difference. But the extra heat from led is notable.

    • @a64738
      @a64738 3 роки тому

      And the is why the ban UK has on powerful water heaters and similar is incredibly stupid...

  • @derpinbird1180
    @derpinbird1180 8 років тому +29

    So its basically a giant single setting dimmer box. Cool i want one!

    • @gantmj
      @gantmj 8 років тому +3

      +Derpin Bird
      It looks just like a dual 2.4 kW dimmer I use in my line of work.

    • @BritishBeachcomber
      @BritishBeachcomber 7 років тому +4

      Pete Kiryluk it's called a Variac

    • @bobweiss8682
      @bobweiss8682 7 років тому +4

      Variac is one trademarked name (General Radio). Superior Electric calls their identical product a "Powerstat". Generically, a variable autotransformer.

  • @JohnnyX50
    @JohnnyX50 8 років тому +1

    At my old workplace I was in charge of general maintenance and energy saving ideas along side my normal roll of managing a team of 10 cleaners lol, It was a supermarket and was lathered in fluorescent lighting. The way it was controlled was via contactors and an 8 channel timeclock (25% lighting, 75% lighting, neon signs, car park lighting) I saved the company money just by altering timeclocks so things werent running constantly and only came on at times related to opening and staff starting shifts, anyway long story short, we had 2 Econolite units, one for 25% and the other for 75% lighting and I was told they didnt work. They had massive isolators on them labelled ON and BYPASS, they were always on bypass, so I switched them on one day to see what would happen. Some indicator LED's informed me they had power but the LED's for ECO mode never came on, there was no change in light levels on shop floor and no smoke or smells so I assume they were just a pile of crap to start with. They had Torroids in them too, huge ones. On a side note, the capacitive cosine power factor corrector unit which was in the same switching room caught fire one day, i hope I never had a part in that lol. They said it was too much current draw from the ovens in the bakery that caused it ?? I dont know anything about power factor equipment, but I thought it was for mainly motors in industry, not oven heaters. We had massive Air blowers in the plant room on huge motors so maybe they benefited from that.. any thoughts ??

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 років тому +2

      +JohnnyX50 The capacitive power factor correction is applied in parallel with the mains when needed, so it had nothing to do with the bakery load. The fluorescent lighting controls in supermarkets tend to be bypassed by the night workers and cleaners. I can recall being shown how to do it by an elderly female cleaner who stood on a short pair of steps held the grounded metal door of the panel open and pressed a button on the PCB inside, oblivious to the fact that her fingers were directly in the vicinity of mains voltage connections.

  • @worddunlap
    @worddunlap 7 років тому +1

    A friend bought a whole house energy saver, black box edition. They also bought yearly maintenance for $1200. After testing I determined the box was an empty box filled with black epoxy resin. Any money saved was only due to them paying attention to lights and things left on. The salesman had duped a thousand or so people. It all operated as a scheme where if you sold your friends one of the units your monthly maintenance was free. I have the lowest power bill of anyone I know and it is because I do balance circuits, shut shit off that I am not using and dress warm in Winter. My heat is set on 65 F today but in years past never went above 60 in Winter. Save money by not spending it.

  • @ChoppingtonOtter
    @ChoppingtonOtter 8 років тому +5

    Probably when someone fits one they are clearly thinking about saving electricity and on installing it will end up being more conscious of saving energy and then unconsciously do so (turning off unused items/lights etc) and putting the result down to the "energy saver".

  • @davidharper4289
    @davidharper4289 7 років тому +3

    You are a "gem". Keep it coming. You are both informative AND entertaining.
    Thank you, thank you, thank you.
    David (from Down Under)

  • @jamesgrimwood1285
    @jamesgrimwood1285 8 років тому +1

    look at your fancy consumer unit with its circuit breakers and RCD protection.
    we've still got the old 1980s style fuse box in cream with actual wire wound fuses.
    the only concession to modern wiring is the retro fitted breaker on the ringmain circuit.
    next to it is a disused single fuse, single switch fusebox made from metal that must have been the house's original supply.
    we also still have round Bakelite light switches :-)

  • @RambozoClown
    @RambozoClown 8 років тому +2

    One of the best explanations of a buck/boost xformer. There is no such thing as a free lunch. But selling snake oil to idiots will let you buy all the posh lunches you want. Out of business? Imagine that.

  • @craignehring
    @craignehring 8 років тому +25

    I like it, but I think greater market penetration could be achieved IF there was a USB 3.0 charging port? Perhaps that could be the energy saver 3003+

    • @Elfnetdesigns
      @Elfnetdesigns 8 років тому +8

      +Craig Nehring Dont forget iPhone compatible because you know. Apple products are the "best" in the world (lol)

    • @gorillaau
      @gorillaau 8 років тому +5

      It needs an mobile phone to allow you to monitor the performace of the device and how much power you are saving. It's a greenwash!

    • @rich1051414
      @rich1051414 7 років тому +3

      Add RGB lighting as well. Might as well waste as much power as possible, why the hell not, since you are using an Energy Saver 3000+

    • @BoB-Dobbs_leaning-left
      @BoB-Dobbs_leaning-left 6 років тому +2

      It should have a built in web server that constantly updates its Facebook page so that all your friends can see how much power you are saving.
      Otherwise, I won't buy one.

    • @gladyszryan
      @gladyszryan 6 років тому +2

      USB 3.0 Charging port had me dead. (Someones going to ask: Because 3.0/2.0 have no difference as a charging port, the extra pins are useless, only 2 electric pins in the same place for each)

  • @gtoger
    @gtoger 4 роки тому +7

    If you're reducing voltage but adding current, will you not also then be pushing the wiring (etc) harder, resulting in resistance, heat loss and possibly risk of fire? (I'm just a humble tow truck video maker, not an electrician.)

    • @skittermckitter05
      @skittermckitter05 3 роки тому +2

      If this is powering resistive loads, the current will drop with the voltage. If its feeding more complex loads, like a power supply, the efficiency of the system plummets and you're better off without it

    • @funkyironman69
      @funkyironman69 3 роки тому +1

      That's true if you are powering something with a switched-mode power supply but not something resistive like a kettle. Except the kettle will take longer to boil, so there is no energy saving.

  • @getcartercarpark8744
    @getcartercarpark8744 2 роки тому +1

    Can I join you in pointing fingers at kitchen fitters, in so much as a friend of mine had an electric shower put in by the guy who fitted their kitchen (after all it is "just" plumbing, is it not).
    Last year I was asked to take a look at the shower because it was tripping the circuit breaker after the shower was in use for 5 minutes.
    I found the kitchen fitter had wired the 8 kW shower with 2.5 mm T&E, a run of some 30 feet of 2.5 mm T&E. About halfway along the run of the shower's 2.5 mm mains cable (up in the loft), I found a section of T&E that had melted and the L & N were momentarily touching as the wires warmed up, the insulation liquified/melted, when the shower was in use. The shower had been in use for about 5 years, how on earth my friend survived using that shower that long is pure luck. He wouldn't believe me that the wiring was a problem until I said, just go put the shower on and feel how warm the twin and earth cable coming out of the consumer unit gets after just a couple of minutes. It really was very warm to the touch.
    I've been retired for some 30 years now, from the trade and I find it shocking you can have a "qualified" electrician after a weekend course, literally shocking in more than one way!
    Regards,
    K Watt. And YES that is my name and YES I was a real 5 year time served Electrician.

  • @agvulpine
    @agvulpine 6 років тому

    I think your circuit broken video from last night is giving this gem a rerun. Clive Classics®

  • @PaulphotoeyeVideo
    @PaulphotoeyeVideo 8 років тому +5

    You have confirmed all my thoughts on these units. The local authority in my area has theses fitted in properties and my concerns were exactly as you said, 220vac for electronic devices. Worrying.

    • @BrianG61UK
      @BrianG61UK 6 років тому +2

      Ha ha. What area? I want to make fun of them and use it as an example of how government largely consists of inefficient idiots who are unable to get a proper job and compete in the real world.

    • @NeuronalAxon
      @NeuronalAxon 4 роки тому

      Yeah, where's that? You should name and shame them.

  • @borisjohnson1944
    @borisjohnson1944 7 років тому +5

    You will need to add a few lead weights because if it is heavy it must be good.

  • @n2n8sda
    @n2n8sda 8 років тому +2

    Hey Clive, Happy new year. Hope to see you tearing down more stuff in 2016. You mentioned in the video you were not sure if anywhere uses 100v power. Japan does! Japanese domestic homes use either 50 or 60hz (Yes, two sepearate grids in the country, one for the west and one for the east, stemming from the days where early electrical companies either used German or US sourced generators.) split phase 100v AC. 3 wire, centre tapped neutral and two 100v "lives". Half the electrical outputs run on the one split and the rest on the other, since the load is invetiably unbalanced the neutral will typically always be carrying some current. Larger household appliances like Aircon and induction cookers typically use 200v derived from the two lives of the split phase. It's pretty stable too, always around 97v out the sockets.

  • @benmooe
    @benmooe 7 років тому +1

    I know this is a bit of an old video but just thought you'd like to know. VPhase and Energetix is now wholly owned by FlowGroup who are now an energy distributor in the UK called Flow Energy. They don't sell energy saving devices by the looks of it but there is mention on the corporate site that they are planning to have "Ambassadors" up and down the country selling energy saving "solutions" to it's customer base. They've also jumped on the smart home market so, hopefully that answers that one.

  • @waldsteiger
    @waldsteiger 8 років тому +8

    probably put one or two nice bricks in there too. weight equals quality.

  • @ToeCutter454
    @ToeCutter454 8 років тому +3

    after seeing the majority of UK/EU electrical boxes and stuff i rather like them OVER the crap we have here in the US... it feels so much simpler and safer(when done correctly) not to mention the breakers are far more visible to tell when they've tripped instead of the half tripped breakers we end up with that make it hard to tell which one exactly popped... if i ever built a house i would more then likely buy a few of them even if it cost me more to have them inspected and OK'd...

  • @therealjammit
    @therealjammit 8 років тому +2

    Don't forget to use sockets for the LEDs for quick repairs, and maybe solder in some "test" components (semiconductors with no silicon in them).

  • @Hotlineelec
    @Hotlineelec 8 років тому +1

    We used to have things like that in Pennsylvania but the harmonics it produced on the load of the building caused unbalanced loads on neutrals causing increased load on the neutral burning them up. Easy fix shut off appliances and lights when you are done with them!

  • @noelj62
    @noelj62 8 років тому +4

    Hi Clive, I guess 100V/60Hz is Japan's standard voltage. According to my humble knowledge, the transformer you described is an auto-transformer. We do use this kind of boosters In the part of earth that I'm currently living in. Out of necessity that is; not for energy saving or other fancy purposes ;-|

    • @imark7777777
      @imark7777777 7 років тому +1

      no it is 100V/60Hz AND 100V/50Hz

  • @nraynaud
    @nraynaud 8 років тому +11

    I think you got an small error in the washing machine motor analysis, the transformer is a constant power device, it doesn't transmit the same current as it absorbs. It doesn't change your whole point that there are too many switching supplies and closed loop system to make a change. I think the low hanging fruits in energy saving are all gone now.

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics 8 років тому +6

      +nraynaud1 Yes I think he made an error here. It would still draw the same power plus whatever inefficiencies this device has.

    • @mrkv4k
      @mrkv4k 8 років тому

      +nraynaud1 I don't really get what you mean. Modern washing machine motors are driven by switching drivers, even some old ones had some kind of regulation for speed. And it's usually done by changing the duty-cycle, so even if you had tranformer, it's gonna be switched on for longer thus taking the same (or more) ammount of energy.

    • @sdgelectronics
      @sdgelectronics 8 років тому

      +mrkv4k He's saying the same thing

    • @mrkv4k
      @mrkv4k 8 років тому

      SDG Electronics
      But where's the Clive's mistake then?

    • @nraynaud
      @nraynaud 8 років тому +1

      he made a short remark using the same logic as for a linear regulator

  • @DataToTheZero
    @DataToTheZero 8 років тому +1

    Big Clive, My I make a suggestion for the 4000XP unit? Included a simple way to check the input voltage against a value set at installation when the house was under low load Or one could get fancy and include a little clamp on remote amp sensor. Either way turn on and off the 'active' LED to indicate high load situations. With this design the energy saver would truly be an idiot light indicating that you obviously weren't using much, err I mean your saving electricity when red led is lite. (compared to when it's off.) Keep the red led on and watch the saving roll in!

  • @scottmarshall6766
    @scottmarshall6766 7 років тому

    A little something to make it create a low hum, maybe just a speaker tied into the LED would add to the energy savings...
    I'd call it the "magnetic resonator" in the adverts.
    Ie: Caution: the unit may emit a low hum, no need to be concerned, This is normal for a magnetic resonator while working.
    Not that I'd ever design something like that.
    Thanks for another good one, Scott

  • @m1geo
    @m1geo 8 років тому +8

    Needs a fan inside, to give it authentic whurr. Extra points if you use a real cheap Chinese one, with crap bearings. :)

    • @trevorvanbremen4718
      @trevorvanbremen4718 4 роки тому

      Is carborundum powder still considered suitable for bearing material in China, or have they entirely switched over to Alumina now.

  • @noevilea624
    @noevilea624 8 років тому +6

    " Oh it`s LED`s are lit it must be saving power " - LOL

  • @HarryBaggs
    @HarryBaggs 4 роки тому

    Australia is one place where something like this is actually any use, though we've used much higher capacity units. The voltage here can be shockingly high.
    Hell I worked in a town with a voltage I hadn't seen lower than 250v (Acceptable range is something like 216-252).
    I have installed a couple of these "Voltage optimisation units". They are much larger than the one you have here and typically sit on the floor. Before installation we would monitor voltage and current draw on the premises for approximately a month and size a unit to suit those needs. In some cases the units were dropping the voltage by 30v down to approx 220. The units we've installed, generally were placed in series with the entire consumer load. In some cases installation of one of these units wouldn't be economic (When the voltage was already near 230). People have seen reduction in power bills and less dead electronic equipment (Mainly led downlights)

  • @8546Ken
    @8546Ken 3 роки тому

    The incredible thing about this product is that it seems unusually complex and sophisticated for a gadget that doesn't really do anything useful. As you pointed out, all it really needs is the LEDs and some dead weight. Nobody else is going to open it up to be impressed by what's inside.
    I get the impression that whoever designed this really believed that it was worthwhile.
    It would be interesting if you measured the actual power into a few appliances with and without the "power saver" in the circuit.

    • @sevenman9672
      @sevenman9672 2 роки тому

      The very best snake oil always fools the maker.

  • @thany3
    @thany3 8 років тому +3

    13:50 About that, yes there is. Japan has 100V. Half the country operates at 50Hz, the other half at 60Hz.
    They do have the common sense to supply AC :)

    • @AAAyyyGGG
      @AAAyyyGGG 6 років тому +3

      I thought you were going to say "half the country uses 50V and the other half the other 50V"!!!! :-)))

    • @BrianG61UK
      @BrianG61UK 6 років тому

      That must have added extra complexity to the process of buying an electric clock before everything changed over to quartz crystals for timing.

  • @mikeworrell1316
    @mikeworrell1316 8 років тому +8

    It needs a fan to be complete!

  • @MrHabushi
    @MrHabushi 8 років тому +1

    My parents have one of these in their house, installed as part of their PV solar panel installation several years ago to "save energy and money". Always wondered what the V-Phase actually did, other than make a loud 'clunk' noise whenever the tumble dryer had been on for a while indicating it was past its peak load. You'd usually notice the lights suddenly get brighter as well.
    Made a mess of their consumer unit too.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 років тому +1

      +Chris West PV installers. Another area where people are crash-trained in the installation of the panels, a mains grid-tie inverter and in your case one of these. All battered in as quickly as possible on "price work".

    • @MrHabushi
      @MrHabushi 8 років тому

      Does seem that way. In fairness the PV install itself was very tidily done (to a complete untrained eye such as myself that is) and used decent hardware for it, just never quite saw the point of the V-Phase. Probably not worth the hassle/expense of having it removed though.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 років тому

      +Chris West Modern PV systems are all modular like double glazing. They're designed to be fast to install and look "neat" with their stylish enclosures.

  • @drusha
    @drusha 8 років тому

    Clive, your idea for power saver reminded me of ADE-651 - device that used same kind of magic to detect bombs and one country have spent £52 million on the those devices.

  • @evanwilson4248
    @evanwilson4248 8 років тому +18

    On front cover: "No user serviceable Parts. Do not remove cover." I don't listen to that silly rule.

    • @danhard8440
      @danhard8440 5 років тому +1

      ya that usually just makes me want to break in it more

    • @Berkeloid0
      @Berkeloid0 5 років тому +1

      To be fair though, you're a bit beyond a "user" if you are capable of repairing these devices, so the advice isn't meant for you.

  • @JTLowry
    @JTLowry 8 років тому +9

    Needs a blinking circuit!

  • @buddhaman001
    @buddhaman001 8 років тому +2

    Also wouldn't neglect the parasitic power usage of the unit itself! The items being powered after this unit may not run 24/7 but I'm sure there are parts of this unit that does, and that will eat into potential power savings as well.

  • @JessicaKStark
    @JessicaKStark 8 років тому +1

    On the plus side, even if it's useless, if you take that buck transformer and redo the windings you can make a HELL of a Joule Thief.

  • @meowcula
    @meowcula 8 років тому +3

    "made of plastic for maximum combustibility"

  • @shlomsi2000
    @shlomsi2000 8 років тому +12

    Don't forget to offer an Audiophile version with audio grade caps and 99.999999% OFC® wiring.
    Could offer this at £199.95

    • @pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraw5542
      @pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraw5542 4 роки тому +3

      I personally use a $30,000 power cable that has had time to align the electrons flowing through it (3 months in the exact same position, I used well over 300 mounting brackets for the 3 foot cord to make sure it didn't move to be sure not to interrupt the cable burn in). Make sure to burn in your cables properly to avoid slow electron flow. Slow flowing electrons get stuck and you don't want that! I've seen wires BLOW up due to electron blockage, it just gets so clogged the wire explodes from the electrothermalpressurisivity. The electrothermalinductance of the 2 seperate conductors with improper electron flow will result in increased chemtrails exposure too.

  • @mattsmedley.onehandedgamin9029
    @mattsmedley.onehandedgamin9029 3 роки тому

    Always over my head, yet I enjoy watching your videos.

  • @tauttechminusmanagedmusic3778
    @tauttechminusmanagedmusic3778 4 роки тому +1

    I will soon be the proud "owner" of a 100A mains regulator due to frequent power spikes in my area; we often have 290VAC over night. The regulator can cope with maintaining 230VAC plus or minus 5% with a mains voltage of 185VAC to 315VAC. Power Networks told me it has to go after the meter and they would not help with the cost. After some "discussion" they will now fit it at their expense before the meter. Oh the power of social media.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  4 роки тому +1

      That's a good result. It is entirely their responsibility to maintain your supply voltage within the specified tolerance.

  • @pjortkat4846
    @pjortkat4846 8 років тому +6

    when will the energy saver 3000+ be available in denmark, and will it be compatible with a danish 230v installation? It sounds like a must have!

  • @mwbgaming28
    @mwbgaming28 7 років тому +4

    The best electricity saving device I've seen was a really long extension lead plugged into my neighbors garden shed
    going to my house.

  • @SteveMayne1
    @SteveMayne1 8 років тому

    Recently turned down a 'friends' advice to install one of these. His story didn't add up whatsoever, glad to find vindication in your video. I think the only appliance that would have benefitted would have been our manual low tech tumble dryer ... If the device would have taken the load.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 років тому +2

      +Steve Mayne The tumble dryer would have run at a lower temperature or run the heaters longer to keep the thermostatically set temperature. So it would have used just as much power to dry the clothes at a lower voltage.

  • @picobyte
    @picobyte 8 років тому

    Indeed the last bit is best. You should build a heater in as well,the cover says the thing should be warm when operating.

  • @paulstubbs7678
    @paulstubbs7678 8 років тому +3

    How about a 'D' cell and a LM3909 led flasher. (Or equivalent)
    Wow - Cordless anergy saver.
    Then you could also sell them a service contract, to 're-invigerate' it (raplace battery) once a year!

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 років тому

      +Paul Stubbs Alas, the LM3909 is a rare beast these days.

  • @LanternLabs
    @LanternLabs 8 років тому +51

    Surprised nobody pointed out yet that Japan uses 100v

    • @8bits59
      @8bits59 8 років тому +12

      Was about to, then read this comment

    • @OrangeCat__
      @OrangeCat__ 7 років тому

      +8 Bits same lol

    • @8bits59
      @8bits59 7 років тому +9

      Don't they also have a 200v system similar to the US's 120/220v system

    • @imark7777777
      @imark7777777 7 років тому +7

      from what I understand in the areas occupied by US military we were nice enough to improve their system per our compatibility and comfort while we were invading.

    • @jonathanfurtado3696
      @jonathanfurtado3696 5 років тому +1

      @@imark7777777
      yes on the military bases in Japan the system is upgraded to that of United States system this way service members and their families stationed in Japan don't have to buy any special adapters they also generate most of their power on site.

  • @jansb984
    @jansb984 7 років тому

    You nailed it - AWSOME! The bottom line is that you can not save some unless you create some and this costs more than the original consumption. Not to say that cos-coefficient caps can not do the efficient job on inductive loads, but this is another story..

  • @reallybigshoe40
    @reallybigshoe40 8 років тому

    I have seen well over 1 home energy saving tip videos, and this is by far the most logical, cost effective and safe method online. On the whole internet. Fact

  • @MrJeffschefke
    @MrJeffschefke 8 років тому +7

    Japan is 100v (not 120 like the USA)

  • @StephenTack
    @StephenTack 8 років тому +5

    @23:54
    BigClive is secretly Strongbad!

    • @m8e
      @m8e 8 років тому +1

      +Stephen Tack My head a splode.
      ENERY SAVER!

    • @jermcrow3408
      @jermcrow3408 8 років тому

      bahaha awsome!!

  • @alexgray552
    @alexgray552 8 років тому +1

    You mentioned the maximum combustibility of the consumer unit - the regs have changed to require all new ones to be non-combustible or in a non-combustible cabinet, with effect from 1 Jan 2016.

  • @crocellian2972
    @crocellian2972 7 років тому

    This is the most interesting episode I've ever seen. Please do some more complicated stuff like this.
    My whooping three month internship with the power company suggests to me that they want to protect their transformers at all cost.
    It takes a year to get a new one out here in the wilds. They aren't very German about planning in rural America.
    They want the total load to rise slowly after a major fault because their computers 100 miles away will shutdown any transformer that has sudden load fluctuations.

  • @1love1heart87
    @1love1heart87 8 років тому +3

    One of the best videos to date , On another note please can you put EBAY link up for the 3000+ :) .

  • @thomasesr
    @thomasesr 8 років тому +5

    WOW! Where can I buy an ENERGY SAVER 3000+??

  • @SnelflightVideos
    @SnelflightVideos 8 років тому +1

    Hi Clive, you have a very interesting channel! Regarding the energy recorded by the meter when using this device, it is important to note that the load current will be greater than the mains current. This is because the transformer primary current is also drawn from the mains, and it will be 180 degrees out of phase with the load current (work that one out!). It will therefore reduce the overall mains current drawn so that the input power is equal to the output power as it must be in a lossless system (ignoring transformer efficiency). So the meter will read correctly.

  • @robottwrecks5236
    @robottwrecks5236 8 років тому +1

    Well done good sir! I think the power saving aspect of it the fact that it trips the breakers off. Can't spend as much money on power if it's all turned off. I think that does the trick quite well! (Kidding)

  • @MrJeffschefke
    @MrJeffschefke 8 років тому +68

    Ware do I buy the energy saver 3000+?

    • @evanwilson4248
      @evanwilson4248 8 років тому +15

      Make it yourself! You have the schematic!

    • @MrJeffschefke
      @MrJeffschefke 8 років тому +3

      id rather support the original maker then make my own!

    • @readyrepairs
      @readyrepairs 8 років тому +13

      +Jeff Schefke I suspect that since you are clearly an avid internet user, you may want the 9000+ model.

    • @sivalley
      @sivalley 8 років тому +9

      +readyrepairs I heard Big Clive got into a legal dispute with Kerkraft over the 9000 model. Their legal representative, Vageta, served him papers last week.

    • @toysareforboys1
      @toysareforboys1 8 років тому +3

      +Jeff Schefke I'd buy one! In Canada so our electrical system is 120v/60hz. Only GFI breakers for the bathrooms :)

  • @DonaldSleightholme
    @DonaldSleightholme 8 років тому +3

    Remember to write NO SERVICEABLE PARTS & NEVER REMOVE THIS COVER!

  • @SnelflightVideos
    @SnelflightVideos 8 років тому

    The complex electronics is because these units output a regulated voltage. This tends to be done by switching the transformer secondary in and out of circuit at some highish frequency, with filters to prevent the switching frequency from reaching the load. Note the other inductors and large capacitors in the circuit. This is what the IGBTs are for. Controlling the (bi-directional) switching is quite complex, hence the complicated electronics in the bottom right of the circuit board. Some units can even boost the voltage if the mains drops below the required output level.

  • @JerryEricsson
    @JerryEricsson 8 років тому

    Reminds me of the old days when my father read those old detective magazines. In the back they always had those adds for squirrelly things, one of which was a life extender for light bulbs. It was a sort of ring that you dropped in the light socket. I am guessing it had some sort of resistive material that dropped the voltage a bit. It was "GUARANTEED TO MAKE THE BULB LAST 10X LONGER"

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  8 років тому

      +Jerry Ericsson It might have been an inrush limiter.

  • @GadgetBoy
    @GadgetBoy 8 років тому +11

    Heheh. This ominous word - "China"

  • @Roobotics
    @Roobotics 8 років тому +5

    Hah, this entire device seems superfluous. Anything that ends up pulling more current at the lower voltage is going to cause higher wire losses and therefore worse efficiency.
    Maybe.. things with small AC motors could see some benefit.. they would likely use less energy but be more prone to stalling?

  • @ronb6182
    @ronb6182 6 років тому

    It's a light bulb saver. I used an A P C voltage reducer on my LED Christmas light strings and did not have any bulbs burn out for 2 years now. Without the device I had 5 LED bulbs burn out with in a month. I will always reduce my voltage for my strings of lights.

  • @deadfreightwest5956
    @deadfreightwest5956 8 років тому

    Power companies hate him for using this one simple trick!
    LOL, love the redesign. PT Barnum would be proud.

  • @PilotPlater
    @PilotPlater 8 років тому +41

    8 amps? 8 AMPS? what the actual F.....
    Like that giant complicated mess can only reasonably power one to two circuits, that's ridiculously useless. I'm getting a good batteriser vibe off this thing.

    • @DogsBAwesome
      @DogsBAwesome 8 років тому +4

      +Andy Plater 8 amps at 240v should be more than enough to run the lighting, not much else.

    • @PIXscotland
      @PIXscotland 8 років тому +5

      +Andy Plater
      Don't mention the B word.
      They'll be DDOS'ing Big Dave any time now.

    • @PilotPlater
      @PilotPlater 8 років тому +1

      brian whittle You're right, but no home circuits isolate the lighting from the outlets and other things, so although 8 amps could do all of the lighting in the entire house, it's not going to because the lighting is split on multiple breakers.

    • @DogsBAwesome
      @DogsBAwesome 8 років тому +7

      Andy Plater
      The lights are always on their own circuit in the UK usually on a 5 or 6 Amp fuse or breaker and many houses have 2 or more circuits for the sockets.

    • @PilotPlater
      @PilotPlater 8 років тому +1

      +brian whittle oh I see, very different in north america then.

  • @revmpandora
    @revmpandora 8 років тому +4

    NOW how much would you pay?!?!
    But WAIT, THERE'S MORE!!!!
    STAY TUNED!!!

  • @kuro68000
    @kuro68000 8 років тому +1

    Oh, and Japan is 100v. finding step down transformers fit the UK can be tricky, often end up using US 110v ones where possible.

  • @technodruid
    @technodruid 3 роки тому +1

    I was a kitchen fitter. All I ever did was relocate 20 amp split plugs and light fixtures. Everything else we called an electrician

  • @carbon1255
    @carbon1255 8 років тому +6

    Why are these not illegal???

    • @8bpspfreak2
      @8bpspfreak2 8 років тому

      +Carbon 12
      Because the companies went out of business, so there is not much left on the market :D

  • @nrdesign1991
    @nrdesign1991 8 років тому +6

    This whole thing is a scam. With all the switching power supplies around, they just compensate for the lower voltage by drawing a higher current to achieve the same power output.

  • @bakonfreek
    @bakonfreek 5 років тому

    THANK U BIG CLIVE FOR MAKING THIS INCREDIBLE TECHNOLOGY AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE LIEK US!

  • @Phantasmotronogun
    @Phantasmotronogun 8 років тому +1

    Running a water heater (washing m/c or kettle) at reduced power will actually use more energy to raise the temperature by the same amount. Reason is it takes longer, thus more heat is lost to the surroundings whilst the water is heating. Fridges typically use induction motors which can stall and burn out if the supply voltage is too low. There is some margin for reduction but you really don't want to go below the minimum rating plate voltage.
    Like your solution though, just the thing to sell to ageing hippies. You could do a companion line in solar inverters which just have a photocell to turn a LED on when the sun shines. lol.

  •  8 років тому +3

    Japan uses 100V (East 50Hz and West 60Hz).

    • @alakani
      @alakani 4 роки тому

      What happens if the guy in the middle bridges the 2 grids? :P

  • @davida1hiwaaynet
    @davida1hiwaaynet 8 років тому +6

    Thanks for sharing this! I agree with you - that is totally a hogwash snake-oil take your-money thing. Not going to provide a return on investment and will add multiple potential failure points into your electrical supply!
    Surprisingly; I have never seen anything like this in the States.... Here we are more concerned with reliability and availability it seems.LOL at your ad at the end!!!

    • @robdevenney
      @robdevenney 7 років тому +1

      " Here we are more concerned with reliability and availability it seems" as are we in the UK... because no one sells useless crap to stupid people in America???

  • @doktoruzo
    @doktoruzo 8 років тому

    lol, Just stumbled across your videos Clive ...ha, ha.
    Fabulous, so entertaining and educational too. Currently going through and watching all of them.
    You should be on the telly

  • @ctsnider88
    @ctsnider88 3 роки тому

    I'm glad I watched this while at work. I was ROTFL!!!! thank you bigclive for saving me so much money!!