That Romana story is a perfect example of how Doctor Who stories work: trying to retcon a minor continuity issue (Romana regenerating into random bodies for an unclear reason) and causing a new, more confusing but still relatively inconsequential continuity issue (Romana wasn't even in Destiny of the Daleks). I think it could have been done better if the TARDIS was responsible for the different outfits and still had Romana go on the adventure, but the whole thing's silly nonetheless.
Okay, so first and foremost, there’s a public domain version of Doctor Who. Doctor Omega was originally a French scifi character who built a spaceship and traveled to mars in 1906. The illustrations happened to look quite a lot like William Hartnell, and this was discovered in 2003. English translations happen in 2005, and people have been making their own stories using him from 2006 onwards, often mirroring the Doctor in some form or fashion (occasionally he’s on the run from “his own people” or he has a time machine, both of which are elements that do not appear in the original story). There’s also an in-universe version of the series that takes the place of Doctor Who in the Candy Jar/Lethbridge-Stewart works, with its own versions of Dalekmania, and a historical competitor of William Hartnell’s cast as the lead actor. Finally, the character of Doctor Omega has recently appeared in a Faction Paradox short story. He was thrown in prison for genociding Mars. Faction Paradox created Qanon. Probably, I guess? I’m just spitballing here, I read The Sisters of the Little Moments, and there are a ton of references to Qanon in there. Wouldn’t surprise me. The story also includes a fungal parasite who falls in love with its human host. Spiders are The Enemy. There’s a story in the Cwej anthology that’s vaguely based on the throwaway title “Last Tree of Garsennon” from Twice Upon a Time. An agent of the Time Lords killed all the Wooly Mammoths in America specifically to prevent Thomas Jefferson from having a third term as president. The Yssgaroth are Time Lords, but for another universe. There was a council of Hitlers across multiple universes, but they kicked out the socialist Hitler who wrote Mein Kapital. If I had a nickel for every time someone put a variation of the Eleven-Day Empire inside of a human being I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it’s happened twice. Have you done the Faction Paradox/Eighth Doctor Volkswagen Beetle fact yet? You, yes, you, are a character in the Doctor Who universe. Crikeytown Cancellations features an in-universe version of the person reading the short story. It also features an in-universe version of the editor. There’s an in-universe reference to how people didn’t really like Ancestor Cell. Someone suggests making the movie “Uncle Kristeva vs The Homeworld” but says it’s not the Faction’s finest hour and the public would be underwhelmed
tfw you're trying to tag Sam about how you labored in the canon mines for these facts and you want to know if he, the abusive slavedriver boss, approves, but youtube won't let you tag him. @DAVIS
Congratulations! You have made the rest of my year!! Thank you soooo much! If it helps, "The Lying Old Witch In The Wardrobe" was written almost entirely because the title came to me in some sort of fever dream.. Thank you! Edited: ...and because someone pointed out how "Romana" didn't bother with any more of her anti-radiation pills and yet, somehow, never died of radiation.
Ha! I always wondered whether the title was an homage to The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe - and now I know. Entertaining AND educational, Mr Davis. Lord Reith would have been proud of you.
For a future Broke Canon, you could talk about the several instances of Doctor Who (the TV show) existing inside the Whoniverse (not a parallel universe, but the universe proper)
_The Mutant Phase_ is the Dalek story with 5 and Nyssa (also sets up the Dalek Empire spin-off) and _Last Day at Work_ is the story about the policeman, with 2 and Jamie. They're both Big Finish, and since the latter is a Paul Spragg Memorial Short Trip, it's usually free or cheap, I think.
@@DayOldMeat Oh yea I'm aware of that I was more meaning how he briefly mentions them but doesn't elaborate. Seriously, I'm slightly obsessed with this wasp since listening to the story
Don't know if you covered this but did you know there's a canon Dalek Deception in Transformers? Well, sort of. Octus is an obscure character that only appears in a single issue in the Marvel UK comics and in the Allspark Almanac II. We never see him transform, for obvious licensing reasons, but the Allspark Almanac does specify that his alt mode is a "Mark III Travel Machine." Make of that what you will.
I'll always be angry over the role Arabella Weir received. She absolutely should've gotten a sequel in which she can do more than be trashed. She deserves her own adventures. I choose to believe that her Doctor is out there, doing Doctor Who things. First female Doctor. Briggs could've done better by her. I wish the Weir Doctor would get more work. edit: that may have been a bit harsh, as Nick Briggs has also done so much good. I just wish we had some good material with Arabella Weir in this role, as I get a Doctor -y vibe from her.
When it comes to him responding to criticism, as a writer I can both understand it but also know that you need to be able to take actual criticism and accept that people will have problems with your work because no one is good enough at writing to make something that everyone will like (my writing I normally know going into it will annoy some people, mainly those who deserve it and I get joy out of it but I will have to also respect their right to dislike it). If it's honest criticism he should just be an adult and take it, if it's dishonest criticism or someone just being an idiot and missing something obvious or wanting more pew pew lasers and explosions, then yeah maybe but also you're rarely going to achieve much with most of those people. Personally as I writer I wouldn't respond to most criticism and probably don't directly, maybe I'd address a wider criticism but that's really it.
In a canon story (ish… sort of?), the Briggs doctor from the audio visuals appears with amnesia and is told he’s been replaced by an alternate version (implied to be Paul McGann). But he still exists, so there’s actually two separate alternate versions of the Doctor travelling in the same universe. If you add that to the David Warner Unbound doctor, who was an alternate universe doctor who travelled into the main Dr Whoniverse, that makes at least three different doctors (not different regenerations, completely different people) knocking about in the same universe. There’s probably more if you look? I demand a multi-doctor story, but they’re all entirely separate people.
Now about the hole thing of romana being trapped in a cubed I like to think she did this on purpose so that she wouldn’t become the imperiatrix (refer to big finish Gallifrey)
Something Davis forgot to add is that after the TARDIS returned to the wardrobe, it *FORCED* Romana to regenerate into the same body it had taken during Destiny of the Daleks!
The Doctor Who Audio Visuals, the four-season series of audio dramas starring Nicholas Briggs as the Nth Doctor, which you say you haven't listened to, can actually be found around the Internet, such as elsewhere on UA-cam and on the Internet Archive. Briggs actually is NOT in their pilot episode, "The Space Wail," in which the Doctor was played by someone else; it didn't work out with that person, and so there was a regeneration into Briggs. Also, you're confusing the Audio Visuals with something else. The Audio Visuals was an early offering of BBV, who later went on to do a number of fan-created and quasi-professional Doctor Who-related video and audio projects during the Wilderness Years. A number of these featured actors from the classic run, such as Jon Pertwee, Sylvester McCoy, Colin Baker, Peter Davison, and Sophie Aldred. Some of the audios and the video projects included scripts by Mark Gatiss. These were allowed to be sold, largely because, while they were able to strike deals to use the Sontarans and Liz Shaw (who had her own series P.R.O.B.E.), they couldn't mention the Doctor or the Tardis. In some of their audio dramas, we get the further adventures of the Professor and Ace, although since those made the BBC uncomfortable, McCoy and Aldred continued on with name changes to the Dominie and Dorothy. This led them to create Doctor stand-ins, who, yes, had amnesia. One who had his own video series was The Stranger, and he was played by Colin Baker. Nicholas Briggs, meanwhile, appeared in a couple of audio dramas as the Wanderer, and he was the amnesiac who used the name "Fred."
@@jaschul They're just a small indie company. That's why they can't do things like have episodes written by the people who do majorly popular audio dramas/podcasts, or get actual sci fi authors outside of Doctor Who to write episodes. Or why there's only ever one story a year where there's open submissions. Far too hard for Big Finish to do actual work like those massive mega corporations, Virgin Books and Obverse Books.
@@nightowl8477 So James Wylder (the guy behind the new Cwej series) said online at one point that he was talking to a multiple Hugo award winning author (who he declined to name) who wanted to write for the DW Books range. They were turned away. JFC the mainline EU is mismanaged.
The Threefold Goddess/Fates being time travelers kind of makes sense. From my understanding, they show up a lot in mythology around the world, the idea of the daughter/mother/grandmother.
All of a sudden I REALLY need to read the Witchfinders novelisation! 😄 God bless you, Joy Wilkinson. 👏
That Romana story is a perfect example of how Doctor Who stories work: trying to retcon a minor continuity issue (Romana regenerating into random bodies for an unclear reason) and causing a new, more confusing but still relatively inconsequential continuity issue (Romana wasn't even in Destiny of the Daleks). I think it could have been done better if the TARDIS was responsible for the different outfits and still had Romana go on the adventure, but the whole thing's silly nonetheless.
I just have the head cannon that she used the Energy of the key to time to gain better control of her regenerative process
Nick Briggs also regenerated into Trevor Martin in the big finish adaptation Seven keys to Doomsday
Okay, so first and foremost, there’s a public domain version of Doctor Who. Doctor Omega was originally a French scifi character who built a spaceship and traveled to mars in 1906. The illustrations happened to look quite a lot like William Hartnell, and this was discovered in 2003. English translations happen in 2005, and people have been making their own stories using him from 2006 onwards, often mirroring the Doctor in some form or fashion (occasionally he’s on the run from “his own people” or he has a time machine, both of which are elements that do not appear in the original story). There’s also an in-universe version of the series that takes the place of Doctor Who in the Candy Jar/Lethbridge-Stewart works, with its own versions of Dalekmania, and a historical competitor of William Hartnell’s cast as the lead actor. Finally, the character of Doctor Omega has recently appeared in a Faction Paradox short story. He was thrown in prison for genociding Mars.
Faction Paradox created Qanon. Probably, I guess? I’m just spitballing here, I read The Sisters of the Little Moments, and there are a ton of references to Qanon in there. Wouldn’t surprise me. The story also includes a fungal parasite who falls in love with its human host.
Spiders are The Enemy.
There’s a story in the Cwej anthology that’s vaguely based on the throwaway title “Last Tree of Garsennon” from Twice Upon a Time.
An agent of the Time Lords killed all the Wooly Mammoths in America specifically to prevent Thomas Jefferson from having a third term as president.
The Yssgaroth are Time Lords, but for another universe.
There was a council of Hitlers across multiple universes, but they kicked out the socialist Hitler who wrote Mein Kapital.
If I had a nickel for every time someone put a variation of the Eleven-Day Empire inside of a human being I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it’s happened twice.
Have you done the Faction Paradox/Eighth Doctor Volkswagen Beetle fact yet?
You, yes, you, are a character in the Doctor Who universe. Crikeytown Cancellations features an in-universe version of the person reading the short story. It also features an in-universe version of the editor.
There’s an in-universe reference to how people didn’t really like Ancestor Cell. Someone suggests making the movie “Uncle Kristeva vs The Homeworld” but says it’s not the Faction’s finest hour and the public would be underwhelmed
MUAHAHAHAHAHA TAKE MY FACTS. TAKE THEM.
I love these facts. They're reminding me of things I'd forgotten. Doctor Omega, and the parallel universe Roman Empires that work together.
@@calvinfranklyn5499 does the council of Hitlers have Starfish Hitler?
tfw you're trying to tag Sam about how you labored in the canon mines for these facts and you want to know if he, the abusive slavedriver boss, approves, but youtube won't let you tag him. @DAVIS
@@adamntcaponewholikesbigcoo1749 you know, this I do not know haha. Good question though.
Congratulations! You have made the rest of my year!! Thank you soooo much!
If it helps, "The Lying Old Witch In The Wardrobe" was written almost entirely because the title came to me in some sort of fever dream..
Thank you!
Edited: ...and because someone pointed out how "Romana" didn't bother with any more of her anti-radiation pills and yet, somehow, never died of radiation.
Ha! I always wondered whether the title was an homage to The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe - and now I know.
Entertaining AND educational, Mr Davis. Lord Reith would have been proud of you.
Great job on Halflife, that book rules.
@@jedisalsohere Wow! Cheers Jed :) Much appreciated!
For a future Broke Canon, you could talk about the several instances of Doctor Who (the TV show) existing inside the Whoniverse (not a parallel universe, but the universe proper)
So Big Finish has to make a story featuring Romana meeting the Dalek ls for the first time now with similar events to Destiny of the Daleks!
Nick Briggs as the 9th Doctor was beyond insane lol. I think I prefer his interpretation now and am totally downloading that one.
Was wondering when the Nth Doctor would come up in this series. Loved the odd idea of using a toothbrush, it's so very "fan film" lol.
Maaaaaan.
That ASDA Doctor is just the evil version of Stranded, isn't it?
kicking myself that i didnt think up this joke first
The Romana fact finally! But the fact you just glossed over the policeman and Wasp that killed the Daleks-
_The Mutant Phase_ is the Dalek story with 5 and Nyssa (also sets up the Dalek Empire spin-off) and _Last Day at Work_ is the story about the policeman, with 2 and Jamie. They're both Big Finish, and since the latter is a Paul Spragg Memorial Short Trip, it's usually free or cheap, I think.
@@DayOldMeat Oh yea I'm aware of that I was more meaning how he briefly mentions them but doesn't elaborate. Seriously, I'm slightly obsessed with this wasp since listening to the story
@@alternatethirteenth5594 ah so you heard them both! I haven't heard _The Mutant Phase_ in a long while, but it terrified me as a kid.
brilliant stuff!! congrats on another series!
Don't know if you covered this but did you know there's a canon Dalek Deception in Transformers? Well, sort of.
Octus is an obscure character that only appears in a single issue in the Marvel UK comics and in the Allspark Almanac II. We never see him transform, for obvious licensing reasons, but the Allspark Almanac does specify that his alt mode is a "Mark III Travel Machine."
Make of that what you will.
There are also some obscure references to a "Doctor", and "Transformers, robots in disguise" are mentioned once in a Faction Paradox book.
The Nicholas Briggs Doctor from Audio Visuals first appeared in the 1980’s I believe.
I'll always be angry over the role Arabella Weir received. She absolutely should've gotten a sequel in which she can do more than be trashed. She deserves her own adventures. I choose to believe that her Doctor is out there, doing Doctor Who things. First female Doctor. Briggs could've done better by her. I wish the Weir Doctor would get more work.
edit: that may have been a bit harsh, as Nick Briggs has also done so much good. I just wish we had some good material with Arabella Weir in this role, as I get a Doctor -y vibe from her.
What a bloody horrible, arrogant and mean-minded review there!
@@DayOldMeat Honestly. I think I just blew my chances of ever getting to work for Big Finish.
@@calvinfranklyn5499 Oh well. Arcbeatle Press is still taking pitches.
When it comes to him responding to criticism, as a writer I can both understand it but also know that you need to be able to take actual criticism and accept that people will have problems with your work because no one is good enough at writing to make something that everyone will like (my writing I normally know going into it will annoy some people, mainly those who deserve it and I get joy out of it but I will have to also respect their right to dislike it). If it's honest criticism he should just be an adult and take it, if it's dishonest criticism or someone just being an idiot and missing something obvious or wanting more pew pew lasers and explosions, then yeah maybe but also you're rarely going to achieve much with most of those people.
Personally as I writer I wouldn't respond to most criticism and probably don't directly, maybe I'd address a wider criticism but that's really it.
According to the Power Of the Doctor, and lace code, Ace killed a cop
In a canon story (ish… sort of?), the Briggs doctor from the audio visuals appears with amnesia and is told he’s been replaced by an alternate version (implied to be Paul McGann). But he still exists, so there’s actually two separate alternate versions of the Doctor travelling in the same universe. If you add that to the David Warner Unbound doctor, who was an alternate universe doctor who travelled into the main Dr Whoniverse, that makes at least three different doctors (not different regenerations, completely different people) knocking about in the same universe. There’s probably more if you look? I demand a multi-doctor story, but they’re all entirely separate people.
Now about the hole thing of romana being trapped in a cubed I like to think she did this on purpose so that she wouldn’t become the imperiatrix (refer to big finish Gallifrey)
10:32 oh I feel called out
I did it. I watched all the Broke Canons. Well done me.
‘Doctor Jones’ from Origin Stories is a witch trail story
How has Nick Briggs not learned when not to reply! I mean props to him, hasn't triggered a regeneration yet.
So not only do we now have an Dr who analogy for fenris, Odin, ragnorok, and Loki, but now we have the 3 norns
the Nth Doctor I like to call him the Jeeves Doctor
Something Davis forgot to add is that after the TARDIS returned to the wardrobe, it *FORCED* Romana to regenerate into the same body it had taken during Destiny of the Daleks!
Haha, yeah, who would ever fan cast themselves as the Doctor in their own Doctor Who fan-fiction?!
*nervously tugs collar*
omg that intro theme song got me HYPED
Rip time monster commentary track
Know Nick briggs just needs to play the master and he will have played everything.
Witches and witchcraft are real, and I can proove it.
Sainsbury
it is Sainsburys not asda
God, that's much worse...
At least ASDA has prime drink
£2.50 for a 1-l bottle of Coca-Cola whilst in Tesco's it's £1.99
So then is this the season finale for season 3 of Broke Canon?
Can you cover first contact? Because I swear Doctor Who's had hundreds of instances of first contact
I listened to Plague of the Daleks, what does that have to do with the Witch Trials?
Got it mixed up with another and can't find it!
@@SamyulDavis Ahh yeah knew something wasn't right lol
Where are all the comic big finish images from?
Doctor Who Magazine used to do those as small previews for upcoming monthly range stories
1:55 /Witch/ came first? Hmm?
The Doctor Who Audio Visuals, the four-season series of audio dramas starring Nicholas Briggs as the Nth Doctor, which you say you haven't listened to, can actually be found around the Internet, such as elsewhere on UA-cam and on the Internet Archive. Briggs actually is NOT in their pilot episode, "The Space Wail," in which the Doctor was played by someone else; it didn't work out with that person, and so there was a regeneration into Briggs. Also, you're confusing the Audio Visuals with something else. The Audio Visuals was an early offering of BBV, who later went on to do a number of fan-created and quasi-professional Doctor Who-related video and audio projects during the Wilderness Years. A number of these featured actors from the classic run, such as Jon Pertwee, Sylvester McCoy, Colin Baker, Peter Davison, and Sophie Aldred. Some of the audios and the video projects included scripts by Mark Gatiss. These were allowed to be sold, largely because, while they were able to strike deals to use the Sontarans and Liz Shaw (who had her own series P.R.O.B.E.), they couldn't mention the Doctor or the Tardis. In some of their audio dramas, we get the further adventures of the Professor and Ace, although since those made the BBC uncomfortable, McCoy and Aldred continued on with name changes to the Dominie and Dorothy. This led them to create Doctor stand-ins, who, yes, had amnesia. One who had his own video series was The Stranger, and he was played by Colin Baker. Nicholas Briggs, meanwhile, appeared in a couple of audio dramas as the Wanderer, and he was the amnesiac who used the name "Fred."
Big Finish. We Love Cutting Union Corners.
But their lunches!
Nick Briggs and Big Finish are union-busters? How many people does BF employ, anyway?
@@jaschul They're just a small indie company. That's why they can't do things like have episodes written by the people who do majorly popular audio dramas/podcasts, or get actual sci fi authors outside of Doctor Who to write episodes. Or why there's only ever one story a year where there's open submissions. Far too hard for Big Finish to do actual work like those massive mega corporations, Virgin Books and Obverse Books.
@@najawin8348 - hey, they *choose* that outdated business model. They choose to have the same five people since circa 1990.
@@nightowl8477 So James Wylder (the guy behind the new Cwej series) said online at one point that he was talking to a multiple Hugo award winning author (who he declined to name) who wanted to write for the DW Books range. They were turned away.
JFC the mainline EU is mismanaged.
What is the story regarding Briggs and the "bloody horrible, arrogant and mean-minded review there"?
Somebody reviewed Dalek Protocol and gave it a 7/10 on Facebook lmao
@@SamyulDavis 7/10 is better than average though? I'm not sure I'd ever give a Briggs story above 7/10?
He should read what Sandifer says about Big Finish tbh.
AHHHHHHH! Nick briggs!!!
15:30 fucking helln🤦♂️
Brigg Finish bad.
@@najawin8348 YOURE REVIEWING ME ILL REVIEW YOU. Where's that 80s chibs picture, it feels relevant
@@najawin8348 oh my god did you dislike this, someone disliked this comment cos it's at the bottom. And it was probably nick briggs.
@@nightowl8477 I would never dislike u bby
I cant believe you forgot about how Nick Briggs play the Doctor that dies at the beginning of Seven Keys to Doomsday big finish adaptation. Fake Fan
The Threefold Goddess/Fates being time travelers kind of makes sense. From my understanding, they show up a lot in mythology around the world, the idea of the daughter/mother/grandmother.