Why does everyone hate the Indian 'Tejas' LCA 4th Generation Fighter Jet?
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- The Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) has made significant strides in advancing India's indigenous aerospace capabilities, but it has faced several challenges and criticisms when compared to modern 4th generation fighter standards. But the aircraft has had multiple reasons that has been perceived as falling short in some areas.
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Why does everyone hate the Indian 'Tejas' LCA 4th Generation Fighter Jet?
The first crash happened 23 years after the first flight, 6000 hours flight time without a single crash.
That's a world record by itself.
And even in that crash, the American GE 404 engine failed, but the flight control systems kept working flawlessly, gliding the fighter smoothly till it crashed into the ground.
If that doesn't speak volumes about the robustness of India's homegrown technology than I don't know what does !
Agree completely.There will be hard efforts to restrict India in rhis area by Sweden other European countriea USA and may be others more subtely
It already completed 10000+ hrs without any major issue
Nothing will make us satisfied so we are restlessly trying to bring our KAVERI engine in the skies. We are not satisfied yet, that's why the AMCA, TEDBF is on the way, which will also give blow to the haters.
I haven't mentioned the HLF Marut.
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Not every country accepts crash
I think the lessons India learns from struggling with this jet have value beyond the jets built.
Correct assessment. 💯👍
@@JonnyHindu the cringe
Learn what? India went back to importing old foreign jets.
@@tritium1998 Rafale is old for you? aight ok
@@tritium1998one project at time
The true accomplishment here is that India managed to get it built despite goverment corruption and its ineffective bureaucracy. The Indian peoples themselves have the abilities, capabilities, work ethics to develop an exceptional domestic product.
I agree just look at their space program
Respect to the Indian people and their military industrial complex and military research this aircraft from the outside at least looks absolutely beautiful
indofighter 2000
And Sanctions. People forget that sanctions set this program behind by a decade.
While this is true, this aircraft is little more than a modernized Mirage III.
83 LCA have been ordered by the Indian air force and other 96 will be ordered later, 40 are already in service.
Defence Acquisition Council has already cleared the follow on order for 97 more Tejas Mk1A. Now the deal is in price negotiations which will be followed by CCS clearance and contract signing. With around 40 jets already delivered and 83 more on order currently being delivered, that is a total of 220 Tejas Mk1A jets.
And this is just the Mk1A variant. Tejas Mk2, TEDBF and AMCA are yet to enter the chat. By next decade, entire fleet of Indian fighter jets will be Indian, save for the Su-30 MKI and Rafale. Even the Su-30MKI is being upgraded with mostly Indian avionics and weapons and even the assembly of these jets and many of its subcomponents happened within India during its 20 year production run in India that is only now ending. So save for 36 Rafale, all 800+ jets in IAF will be Indian-built by next decade.
@@death_parade: AND YOU KNOW THIS HOW!?? 😑😒 THAT EVEN THATS EXACTLY THE CASE!?? 😑😒
@@rexxbailey2764 I just pieced together all the information that has been stated by OFFICIALS that include (but are not limited to) Chief of Air Staff of Indian Air Force, Defence Ministry Spokesperson, Government of India Press Information Bureau, Defence Minister of India, etc.
@@death_parade : AND YOU DOING THAT WHY?? 😑😒
@@rexxbailey2764 To anger people like you. Makes me chuckle.
Only the import lobby hates Tejas!
It's a good jet. Only it's nearly 20 years late. Our 5th gen project isn't even on the drawings boards yet
It's not late, nor mediocre as mentioned in the video.
I am glad that the hatred has blinded most people, they are not ready for Indian defense aviation in coming years.
Have a great day friend!
@@asmodeus3084 Tejas is bit late, but not by much. Tejas provides a low cost option for air defence operations, while SU30 and Rafale offer air superiority.
No aircraft system must be looked into in a singular fashion. Aircrafts operates in groups. Tejas provides the cost and firepower advantage, and also works as a testing platform for new technologies that will be required for Next gen aircrafts
@@arunkottolli Like I said it's not late ffs. It's on time and going smoothly. Even the specifications mentioned in this video are not factual.
When two countries spend most of their 5th gen budget to discredit the certain fighter that's what happens.
Again compare Rafale's timeline to Tejas and tell me, how much difference is there considering Tejas was made the first time. West strictly controls any defense related technology by putting pressure on different countries to not export anything, and they come up with these sh1tty narratives to discredit others.
@@asmodeus3084 shit was planned in the 80s and only now entire full service and replacing the thing it was meant to replace. How the fuck is that not late. After nearly half a century we finally came out with a 4th gen aircrafts while our enemies are working in gen 6 aircrafts while our gen 5 aircraft isn't even on the drawing board. I never said it was mediocre either. It's just late. Don't be blinded by blind patriotism. Criticise the people in power for the betterment of the country
I hate to say it, the process was more important than the product itself to India. Then build from there, be it upgrades or a new air frame.
What u want ,hal current production rate 24 per year soon it will be 32 as nasik plant soon comes online 😂
Yeah take another 25 years to make it perfect. China has started working on 6th gen jets already
@@Tirah5Chinese aircrafts never been used in real war so can't say anything about quality aur ability
Post 1997 Nuclear tests at Pokhran Sanctions hit this program harder than any corruption or bureaucracy. HAL had to develop several subsystems indigenously to circumvent them, it probably set the program back by a decade.
Don't forget the sanction imposed by US
The program is the same age as the Gripen which had its first flight in 1988 and entered service in 1996.
I don't think you can blame the sanctions that much the program was clearly delayed allready
The problem is people say tejas was started in 1980 but tbh the funding started in 1993 itsepf and ff in 2001 @@AdurianJ
@@AdurianJ Tejas's first flight in 2001, correct your knowledge.
@@Astra_BVR Exactly The Gripen had it's first flight in 1988 and started at the same time. That's a 13 year delay compared to a superior 4+ Gen fighter.
I don't know who hates it anyway it's made for India in India by Indians which costs less than American planes in its Class with the best American Engine 😅
Other 4th generation aircraft are superior.
@@redman1249it's an Indian jet made to fit the specific needs India has. I don't understand why NATO cucks lose their marbles over this. Are you guys still salty about the F-16 fiasco? Stop being worried about what other countries are developing and fix your F-35s. They are only invisible to American tax payers and just keep falling out of the sky.
@@redman1249 how
The plane is 100% foreign parts
@@NotLoxcal source: trust me bro.
You got the application of Tejas mk1 wrong, it's not fall under F-16 and gripen catagory which are medium weight 4th gen fighters but Tejas is light weight 4th gen like South Korean FA-50 with low cost option
Primary objective of Tejas is to replace mig 21 which is intercepter
And Tejas-mk2 is going to fall under the F-16 weight class catagory
Their are no weight classes in a air fight. War isn´t fair.
@@exploatores War isn't fair. But weight categories do exist.
Hence, wrong comparisons are unfair. Tejas was originally designed to be a replacement for the MiG-21 in point defence, interceptor and ground attack roles. The Tejas has already surpassed this role.
The ever-ambitious IAF has been continuously shifting the goal post over the years, which has resulted in the prolonged development cycle. But now good sense has been hammered into the top brass with the realisation that the strength is fast depleting - hence the renewed support from the user.
@@jyotishankarroychoudhury7439 he is nice to use planes in the same generation. not the newest figher jets. So say I was a fighterpilot I meet a hostile aircraft. that are totaly outclassed. why do you think. I would take pitty on it and not say fox three and see it as a easy air victory. If my rules of engagement was meet.
@@exploatores yes catagory exits for fighter, If not then why USA with lots of money operate single engine F16s and why not replace all of them with F22 which is superior, think about it
It's all about price and operating cost, Tejas is cheap and reliable solution for long term area defence
@@yogesh124 A F16 Is still better then most fighter jets it would encounter today. So their is no real reason why it would have to be replaced. Can you say the same about the Tejas ?
It's nice to see the Indians 🇮🇳 creating and building their version of a fighter jet.
Not copies of stolen intellectual property, like we see coming out of the CCP.
That said I'm sure given a long enough time line India 🇮🇳 will have 5th, 6th, 7th generation plane's, that will become world class.
Lol wet dreams
This literally looks like the indian copy of the swedish JAS-39 gripen bruh
@@AntiBtsArmy18
Might as well go a step further and say they copied Wright brothers, since it looks like a plane.
You don't think there's a design basis or philosophy for that plane ?
@@AntiBtsArmy18 lol not every delta wing design is copy of gripen.. be educated from real school not madrasa
@@AntiBtsArmy18 just check design. Not at all
First accident in 23 years....indeed an achievement.....thats why people hate us....because they never expected we could do this...jai hind
🤟🏼😏 Crash Because Of Pilot Error The Answer Is No
Crash Because Of Computer Error The Answer Is No
Crash Because Of Engine (General Electric F404) Failure The Answer Is Yes
Outstanding achievement which the west don't mention .
Comparing this achievement against what? There are only 40 Tejas jets in service, so obviously the crash ratio will be different compared to fleets of other jets, which number in the hundreds or thousands.
That to because of American engine not because of Indian technology
Tejas project was delayed by +30 years due to super corrupted 'Congress' (INC) political party. India was the first country in South Asia to design, develop & manufacture an aircraft called 'Marut' in the late 1960's but due to super corrupted Congress Political party it never got upgraded & further developments were not funded making it obsolete
40 MK1 were ordered in 2015 , 83 upgraded MK1A were ordered in 2020 , and in 2024 Indian gov has cleared the purchase of additional 97 MK1A
how much tejas are in service with IAF?
@@fochbyfitnessmotivation898232+8 trainers
@@fochbyfitnessmotivation8982the initial 40 had 32 single seaters and 8 trainers..the 32 single seaters are already in IAF service. I believe the 8 trainers have also been delivered to IAF as of 2024 . 83 mk1a were ordered in 2020 and according to the contract first mk1a is to delivered in 2024. First mk1a made its first flight a month ago and it is scheduled to be delivered to IAF by July this year . according to mk1a contract all 83 aircrafts should be delivered by 2028-29 . And now Indian gov has cleared the purchase of additional 97mk1a in 2024 , and tender for which has already been released
@@fochbyfitnessmotivation8982initial 40 ordered in 2015 is in IAF service , the 83 mk1a ordered in 2020 will start deliveries by July this year, first mk1a is already in the air
F@@fochbyfitnessmotivation8982
More than one and half squadron
It's world's smallest fighter jet, and a cutie with such lethal capabilities, Indians are such Genius 😮
If Europe or some other country would have built it then the whole world would have been praising about it. But since India made it, they are demoralising us. Proud to be a Indian.
Depends on which Western country makes it. If the US made it then it would still be successful, but then again, US weapons get used and therefore improved. If a European state made it then it would be scrutinized to varying degrees.
Are you demoralised?
I would say if it was American it would be sold as a huge success...best in the world no matter its faults and troubled path to Service. Western Europe...I suspect it would come under similar scrutiny as the Indians have as Europe is more financially protective and far less "showy" than the USA. Another reason for "poo, pooing" the Tejas is the projected LOSS of sales for Dassault, BAE, Northrop etc. Slag it off and "they will buy our planes"...that's the thinking.
India has done a fantastic job on this plane imho (im British btw)...you should be proud of any and all domestic developed high tech and military devices like the Tejas and Arjun MBT.
@@kayveek7278 What do you think
Tejas is a success story .. lots of people spreading two generations contributed to its creation and being indigenous improvements will continue all the way to its glory. To Tejas🥂🇮🇳❤️🧿
Hate = Fear
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When u compare Light Combat Aircraft with Medium combate aircraft I have doubt on your knowledge😂
Most hated? How can something so adorable be hated?
It served as inspiration for a 5+gen category fighter jet I have for the US. It originally was for a micro fighter for a flying aircraft carrier.
Because of our Indian Chandigarh Import Lobby
“hate” is inappropriate. “Jealous of” is appropriate word
😂😂😂@@viswaprasad9450
Na from folks who are aware and know that Teajs after 40 years still used american engine , british seats, isreali radar ,,,,,and still under powered and Under developed and waste taxpayer money ,,,,,,, cannot even challenge JF 17 ////// they should have stopped Tejas in 1999 and gone for Mirage assembly line along with Su 30 line.....
It's hated because india tried to develop a fourth gen fighter while trying to maintain its strategic autonomy and not be a slave of any country. This despite being a poor third world country and not forcing it's brightest minds to work for the defence industry.
you reckon it runs on cow produced methane too?
@@Diafragmates Your comment explains it perfectly. The hatred is based more on racist tendencies than facts on ground.
Isn't that a description of a free nation with free people....
@@ulflyng It certainly is sir !
@@Constantin_91 my question is, why do they hate anyone who is not a hindu? Communists, muslims, sikhs, christians, buddhists, minorities.............
Before people say that it should have been canceled, the project was made as a test bed for new technologies in Indian aerospace. As to that point, it was a complete success as they were able to update the jet over time without having to produce new aircraft.
Tejas is the culmination of the will,daring and determination of the people of India.Yes, we can do it !Tejas is the foundation of the future of Aeronautical Industry of India.
India has been pitching for export order of Tejas MK1A since 2020 when it could not even commit delivery to any buyer prior to 2027. India had not even started the production of MK1A for IAF till recently. Even today the biggest negative for Tejas export or any Tejas buyer is, they won't get delivery of their order prior to 2029.This is the prime reason countries opting for other jets as their need is more urgent than wait for 5-6 years to get all orders fulfilled. Other issues is IAF keep changing requirements & asking for add ups or modifications to the existing order further off-shooting the proposed date of delivery. Fund relase to HAL is another challenge. IAF or Gov.t doesn't give the funds on time to HAL so procurement, production cost, Salaries & payment to vendors don't get stalled. These are the biggest challenges which needs to be addressed by the Gov.t & HAL ASAP. My father was a retired Engineer from HAL, though he was in Helicopter division, they know what's happening in the co. & why delays.
HAL was committed to delivering a total of 18 twin-seater Tejas trainers to the IAF in last 2 years. In October 2023, HAL handed over the first trainer version of LCA Mk-1. Currently, Eight trainers have been delivered as of March 31st, 2024 and final ones are undergoing the necessary flight testing before they are inducted into IAF service.
The remaining ten trainers will follow in a phased manner, with complete delivery by 2026-27.
IAF ordered 83 Mk-1A fighters for 48,000 crore in February 2021. But the Tejas Mk-1A made its maiden sortie from our Bangalore HAL facility only on 28 March 2024. The Indian Air Force (IAF) is likely to get the delivery of its first Tejas Mk-1A aircraft from HAL only in July 2024. The delivery of the 83 jets is expected to be completed by 2028.
Until HAL ramps up production to 24 jets per year don't expect any order to materialize. Another challenge is GE cannot deliver even 20 engines per year. A key point of discussion will be addressing unresolved issues from a previous engine contract, including delays in the delivery of 99 F404-IN20 engines for the earlier batch of 83 Tejas Mk1A jets.
These delays were due to supply chain issues and global disruptions caused by the COVID-19 pandemic. GE intends to steadily increase production to 20 F404-IN20 engines per year hopefully by 2025. However, HAL's need for over 120 new engines will require GE to push production even further, to an annual output of 24-30 units.
I don't see any order coming in for at-least next 2-3 years. India or HAL can expect cracking some export order probably post 2027. We made a goof up in our first Helicopter export with Equador due to promises which we could not keep. Total negligence & laid back approach of HAL for supplying key spare parts & poor maintenance got itself a bad name for its after sales unprofessionalism which resulted in crash & cancel of order. Though things have changed, After sales support & service is something which HAL is still new. Will take a decade to learn with time, orders & experience.
Conclusion
The LCA Tejas program represents India's growing ambitions in aerospace. The evolving partnership with GE on the F404-IN20 engine is crucial for the program's continued success & export orders.
Addressing production challenges and meeting expanded demand will be essential for fulfilling India's plans to equip its formidable homegrown fighter with a homegrown Engine ASAP, if not we will end up losing the market as technology gets obsolete with delays.
Looks dated, but probably a good stepping stone for a next generation build. You don't go directly to a gen 5 aircraft. Korea and Turkey needed stepping stones to get to their current production goals.
The project existed as a stepping stone and 4th Gen Crafts are cost-effective against non-near-peer adversaries so for the long run this is a win for India.
It also doesn't help that Russia completely botched it's 5th gen hurting India in getting experience with making 5th gen
@@kameronjones7139What do you mean? Su57 is a pretty good plane, just not war proven or tested.
Looks dated?? Sure buddy!
@@Jeremiah-r3q it isn't even stealthy and at best has the same rcs as a clean f18. Most don't even consider it a true 5th gen India jumped ship the moment they tested it
5:45 The F414 would be integrated onto the Tejas Mk2 which could be called a completely different jet tbh
Good video, a couple of corrections :
1) The Tejas Mk-1 or any of its upgraded variants will never use the 98 kN F-414. It's simply too big and fuel consuming for the design. They will continue running on the F-404 until their mid-life refit when they get swapped out by an indigenous 90 kN Kaveri engine.
2) The Delta-wing design doesn't make the aircraft more stealthy. What it does do is increase it's range significantly, owing to it storing additional fuel in those big wings.
It also makes the aircraft less dragy in the high-speed regime. That's why you see the Tejas's combat range being similar to the F-16 despite the latter being a much bigger aircraft.
And also performs better at higher altitude where air is thinner
Kya baat kar rahe ho F-16 ki Combat Range Tejas mk1/1a se 1.5 guna hai..
F-16 has ~860km CR whereas Tejas has 550km CR.
@@JonnyHindu Tejas 740 Km.
Good explanation / Jai Hind
The biggest problem we still face is the engine and it does look like we are falling behind china by a large margin…. But the Tejas doesn’t have to be a total failure, learn walking before running and the Tejas accomplished that pretty well, India developed it’s first 4th gen fighter which is quite an achievement and a milestone in the path to self reliance. In the near future I hope we can somehow make an engine that sorts out most of the problem, finally see The TEDBF and AMCA taking to the skies and if that happens, Tejas is a success story.
China still doesn't have a reliable engine and copied russian engine but couldn't match its quality
@@sreevathsak.j.3807 We always say that don’t we? When China makes something, oh it’s that, oh that’s a copy, while the truth is they are 20 years ahead.
@@m20superbazooka49 J20 can be ditected by a rafale, so 5th Gen is questionable. Engine also not that good. India source engine from US, but powerful Kaveri engine with afterburner is coming....
@@aelredsaizar7976 meanwhile china has more than 200 J20 in service. India only has 36 rafale.
@@aelredsaizar7976Only because of Luneburg lens put on J-20 during peacetime, the Chinese are technologically really far ahead of India.
Extreme burn have a cure burnol, it's also Indian 😂
Hyper nationalism sucks.
@@prashanthb6521 liberedu rotts
🤡🤡🤡@@prashanthb6521
You are embarrassing us Indians
@@fenrir834 u embaese ureself 😂
So i watched the whole video. I have been closely following the Tejas project for about 15 years now. While Tejas isnt a perfect aircraft, i would still like to make some corrections from what the youtuber said.
1. It was compared with the "Gripen and F-16" saying "Gripen and F-16 can carry 3 times the payload". That reference was taken out from a media hit job article by import lobbyists saying that Tejas isnt enough to protect Indian skies.
Fact it, Tejas mk1 was compared to a larger medium weight Gripen E version and offcourse a larger F-16 version which cost more than 2 times of Tejas. Neither they are similar in size, nor the price range to be compared. Tejas mk1/A is to be compared to the Gripen C version which is similar in size and cost. And u will notice both have a maximum payload capacity of about 4 tons. More if some fuel is sacrificed.
2. Maintainability was pointed out. One of the key points of Tejas mk1 is its easy maintainability often pointed out by the pilots and engineers. The high use of composites not only makes the fighter light and increases stealth, it also makes maintenance easy. Supported by advanced avionics and "intelligent" softwares, engineers are not complaining. The youtuber mentioned Exercise Iron fist. In the same exercise, 6 Tejas participated and EACH Tejas performed 6 sorties a day, proving its easy maintainability and quick turn around time.
3. While i agree , there are some delays with the Tejas, it was more political than technical. Actual work on Tejas began in 1988 with the project definition phase and Tejas had achieved initial operational capability by 2012. That should have allowed induction and large orders. However the bribe hungry politicians and some high rank airforce officials wanted the bribes that come with imports and purposefully kept changing the goal post of the Tejas thus delaying induction and a large order book. For one example out of many - They wanted Tejas mk1 to have full swing role capability right from day 1. In comparison, when fighters like Eurofighter or Rafale entered service, they didn even have ground attack capabilities, let alone swing role. Everything was gradually added and tested in the later versions.
4. Also the cost of Tejas mk1A with AESA , EW and all other advanced features is a mere 42 mil$, one of the cheapest in the world. The project cost is about 2 Bil$, only a fraction of the cost of fighter jets developed in the west.
INDIAN AIR FORCES operates variety of aircrafts like
MIG 21
MIG 29
MIRAGE 2000
JAGUAR
RAFALE
SUKHOI 30 MKI.
AIRFORCE WANTED TO CATEGORISED 3 DISTINCT CATEGORIES
HEAVY CLASS - SUKHOI 30MKI
MEDIUM CLASS - RAFALE
LIGHT CLASS TEJAS.
FOR NEXT 2-3 DECADES.
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Simply because it's Indian.
People still have an opinion that Indian products are not at par with other counterparts.
It's not a bad looking jet I actually like the way it looks the way it performs and everything I have no idea but the looks of it are pretty decent
According to a senior IAF personnel, Tejas's kinetic performance is close to Mirage 2k. Not exact or better but close. In terms of avionics, radar, ew etc, better than Mirage. Also it costs 40-50m (including weapons and other support) per piece which is significantly lower than Mirage or Rafale
It’s FUGLY 😂
Yeah you have no idea alright. It simply “looks” so good that Indians went back to importing old foreign jets.
@@tritium1998 Are you not happy that India didnt go for "newer" fighters like F 16/F 15s? 😌
The advantage of an indigenous platform is that the Tejas is a continuously evolving aircraft. I don't see why we Indians cannot replicate the Spitfire saga, evolving from Mark I to IV and V. The platform isn't mature yet and there is immense scope for improvement with each batch. Take the radar for example, from a passive to Israeli AESA which is soon to be replaced by indigenous UTTAM Gallium nitrite based radar, an indigenous AEW suite, integration of successive generations of Astra BVRs. You have to understand that the Tejas Mk1 is essentially the first product (discounting the tragic HF24 story ). From here on we can only improve. The one sore point for India is the powerplant, it is a long tedious job ,but you have to do it. No one is going to just hand it over to you.
The HF24 Marut is coming back as the HF42 Marut...
@@siddheshgharat6300 don't be swayed away by social media news. The HLFT 42 is yet to get the CCS approval, no funds have been allocated till date. Now they say HAL will start work with it's own funds.
One thing to add naval variant is ready but since its a single engine aircraft so it wont be accepted by airforce. So now naval variant is now being used as test aircraft for parameter and technology testing till TEDBF prototype comes.
WTF? You mean single engine variant won't be accepted by Navy. Not Air Force (as you've written).
@@death_parade yes. Single engine works for airforce but not for navy since navy can't land aircraft in Ocean and double engine provide safety incase 1 engine fails. But in my view navy should buy small number and can use 1 single engine fighter on shore base facilities for training and point defence of base.
Problem with Tejas Naval variant is that it can't take off with a decent load without a CATOBAR Carrier and India has none.
@@JoyP09 power requirement can be meet with 414 engine. But still navy would accept a single engine fighter. Therefore naval tejas will not go beyond TD.
"Hate " According to whom??
I really like the HAL Tejas (LCA).
The Hindustan initiative to develop an aircraft like that is paving the way of aircraft development there, and I'm hoping that they keep on the right track.
We need to remember that even the almighty USA needed some time to develop their own fighters through the years. I remember some fighters that was very promising, but when they entered in service had some difficulties (for example, the initial carrier operations of the famous F4U Corsair, or the beautiful F7U Cutlass, the F-4 Phantom without an internal gun, the lots of initial troubles of the F-35, and lots of other examples), so I don't mind that Hindustan are facing some trouble developing the Tejas. It's part of the process.
As a brazilian citizen that likes this type of environment (military), I was wondering about what aircraft the Brazilian Navy (Marinha do Brasil - MB) should/could purchase and maintain. With the yearly budget available to MB, it couldn't purchase (and maintain) a twin engine naval fighter (not the F/A-18, not the SU-27 and variants, not the MiG-29K). And what (new) single engine naval fighter there's nowadays available? The F-35? I've said something that the yearly budget could maintain, and the F-35 surely is out of question.
To keep up the proficiency of our naval pilots, the only available option is the T-45 Goshawk.
So, I'm keeping an eye about the development of the naval Tejas. It will be the sole "low cost" available single engine naval fighter on the market.
(Anyone else thinks that the biplace version of the Tejas is an eye-candy aircraft? As said, I really like this aircraft)
Thanks for another awesome video, Matsimus!
There's only been 1 crash of an operational Tejas since its first flight 23 years ago. Look at how many Western and other powers planes crash every month before anyone should say anything.
Might be those other countries fly in a lot more intense environment or missions... Or the number of missions per day. India might have ? 20 or 30 flights per day, hell that might be the number one squadron in the U.S. flies per day. Also take an f22, it has two engines that produce 35k pound of thrust. The tejas enging is 15-18K pounds. Just saying it seems more of a low end toy if you really want to compare a real fighter... 🤪
@@dand4485Tejas has created a world record of flight hours. 😅
@@dand4485 there is more crashes because they fly more often is like more students killed in usa due to more number of schools or students. 😂😂 More students killed in usa is not because of more schools or students but due to more guns.
Similarly more crashes is due to technical failure rather than more number of flights.
😂😂😂stupid american logic
@@dand4485lol do u even know Indias geography we use this at worlds most hottest as well as coldest and highest places last I checked if anything Indian conditions unforgiving than western countries and our no of sorties per day is higher coz we are operating at less than 33 squardern strength while taking care of over 9000 km long border with china and pak
@@dand4485
You compare f22 with Tejas--
F22- $68,000 per hour of flight
Tejas- $4375 per hour of flight
Forget the cost of the systems, maintenance, weapons package.
Usa is draining it's tax payers money and resources in toys while china building roads, airports, bullet trains.
Compare Chinese infrastructure with usa😂😂😂
Tejas is better than Chinese Jets.
But Saudi ,UAE have purchased dozens of Chinese J20s on preference to F35s . Do you know ?
@@prakat1082 wait what j 20 export?
@@prakat1082 yes becuase us denied then f35, latest news is coming from egypt they are purchasing 20 j20 because usa denied them f35
@@sanatanihindu383 : They were offered . But our finances were the problem. Saudi and Emirates have no money constraints but still they rejected .
@@MarlonCatamio : Baseless statement . Nobody is worried or hates Tejas .
Biggest reason for Hatred is cause Its made in INDIA.Its a Flying Beast .I have a Massive respect for Indian Airforce.
If India can get the production up and marketing is done right it can capture a niche market. A decent multirole fighter that has decent radar and air2air and air2ground capabilities is what most nations would be interested in if the price is right.
It can incorporate both US(Nato) and Russian weapons....
Yeah all it needs is just more production and marketing like from you. The niche market of poor corrupt countries that somehow want the worst fighter.
My favourite aircraft is *F-22 Raptor* 🇺🇲.
My equally favourite 4th Gen. aircraft are *Mig-29* 🇷🇺and *Rafale* 🇫🇷.
My favourite Bharatiya 🇮🇳 Aircraft is *Tejas mk1a* (currently).
Also equally favourite Bharatiya 🇮🇳future aircraft projects are *AMCA* and *TERBF* .
Different People Different Choices.
Tejas Mk-2 will be a good fighter jet. This was just a stepping stone for india into this world . Afterall very limited numbers of Countries have the capacity to built a fighter jet from scratch in the first place .
no point in making another 4th gen fighter this day and age. By the time that thing enters service it will already be outclassed.
A 5th gen aircraft can't replace a 4.5 gen aircraft . 4.5 gen aircraft will always be there with 5th gen avionics. India is also working on its own stealth aircraft(AMCA) ,so avionics developed for amca will be incorporated in lca mk2 . @@corvoattano4777
@@corvoattano4777 : nothing gonna be "outclassed" for us Indian, because we do not print our money like USA !!..
So why does usa still has plans to operate 4th plus gen aircrafts for next 30 years?@corvoattano4777
@@swapneelbehera260 they arent making any new 4th gen fighters and gradually replacing all older 4th gen fighter jets.
Actually no one is making new 4th gen fighter jets at all.
It's the lightest current production fighter if im not mistaken, which if they build enough of can be a significant asset that doesn't need to use airfields.
And point 2, just the fact that it exists, gives HAL a significant amount of experience in modern fighter design to include bureaucracy and logistics
The ones with the new Canard wings up front will sell and people will then say oh this is a good airplane
Weapons of tejas
A2a missiles .
Bvr -astra mk1 , mk2 ,mk3 (indigeneous ), derby er , r77, meteor (only with uttam radar )
Wvr -r73, aasram, python 5
A2G- hammer , saaw, lgb , brahmos ng
😂👌🏻
Rudram also a2g isn't it
Tejas have given much needed confidence to Indian industry , Indian defence forces and contributing lot in development of aviation ecosystem in India. Once ecosystem get developed, more advanced jet will start coming out with more indegenous content. Tejas have provided opportunity to Indian industry to make many sub systems.
Only enemy hates tejas tell you some facts it is India's own made fighter plane india can heavily upgrade . It is a badic platform from which new better fighter planes can be made , tejas will be able to fire 2 brahmos and will be having loyal wingman and it will be intigrated with astra mk1 with 110km range missile and astra mk 2 with 160 kms of range and this will make tajea more lethal as compare to many 4.5 gen fighter planes
Its not a joke to get the tag of "smallest and lightest" 4th gen aircraft in the world.
Hated? 33 are flying with the Indian Airforce, 73 are on order. 93 more have been approved.
The subsequent iterations will get better and better. Manufacturing one's own fighter for the firt time is a learning process.
Very refreshing to see balanced discussion on this and very refreshing to see some positive and encouraging comments.😊
Import lobby finding hard to digest the success of Tejas.
Hate comes from those who doesn't even know how to pronounce TEJAS.😂
Na from folks who are aware and know that Teajs after 40 years still used american engine , british seats, isreali radar ,,,,,and still under powered and Under developed and waste taxpayer money ,,,,,,, cannot even challenge JF 17
I have never met anyone who hated Tejas. It is a small 4.25 gen (4.5 on a good day) tactical fighter bomber. It looks like advanced variant of 1950's US and French designs with its delta and pointy node. But aerodynamics are aerodynamics. It is small, liie Mig-21, but not small enough to evade advanced air-air missiles, radars, and IRST. So it will come down to training , tactics, and C&C integration. Overall GOOD JOB India!
Your information is not correct and complete. You should check again all the parameters of Tejas.
The Philippines is a no- hater of this magnificent aircraft. We should buy this Indigenous Indian made Tejas to fulfill the acquisition of a fast , agile , maritime strike capable jet fighter especially with the integration NG- Brahmos and Astra beyond visual range missiles as future weapons .
Hate??? dont think this is appropriate word.....better would be why some r Jealous of this bird...Hate or criticism come from Geo Politics...not from Bird.....
Didn't copy Russian jets, didn't ask for western help, honestly this is a decent stepping stone...with the amount of funding that was available...only needs more funding for R&D and good leadership and the successive jets will be amazing 🇮🇳💖
You copy and beg for foreign imports from those countries all the time to completely copy.
Tejas will be the replacement for the Mig-21. So it will be the first interceptor an adversary will meet.
Thanks to Tejas, India will soon have a 300nm BVR missile, which one hopes will do the talking.
300kms*
It's costly and late, but you have to understand that building an infrastructure to make a complex thing like a fighter jet is not easy.
It's the cheapest single deck 4th gen fighter with delta wing design and awesome service window.
I love it when import lobbyists call the Tejas "costly" and then want India to buy fighters 3x that cost XD
Did you only one who paid this from pockets 😂😂
For its price and design parameters, the Tejas is an effective, competent 4.5G combat aircraft. Also has the lowest crash rate since the first one flew in 2006. Exactly 1 crash till date.
Plane did not fail, instead G404 engine failed.
Obviously not when India went back to importing old foreign aircraft. Nice try.
Now turning 60 from NE India, still a great admirer of all Wings since childhood...was longing to see indigenous wings roaring over the country sky. And now m relief to see an iron vulture " Teja,s"... but it's so traditional...Never late than ever.. India have sufficient techno.resources at hand, we could jump to Wings Gen.series provided that we change the policy of techno application systems flexible to explore techno talents from young upcomming generation.
It's certainly a good looking aircraft, and I for one am truly excited to see how their aerospace industry develops (especially compared to the CCP). It's a pretty decent first step into an incredibly difficult industry.
INDIA made this aircraft despite being in western sanction in most of the time.. except France... Proud of Tejas...it was made to replace aging 2nd generation MIG 21for air defence or interceptor role but now its capabilities are equivalent to mirrage 2000 in some parameters.
The only problem i see in tejas is it's low production capacity (which will be increased) and it's marketing strategy. Tejas MK1A is one of the best fighter jet in it's category and iam 100% sure Tejas MK2 will also be one of the best in it's category.
Tejas is classed as a Light combat aircraft and comparing it with F16 and JAS gripen is unfair and I don't agree with the analysis on the AESA radar of Tejas... it will one gay emerge as a front runner of it's calls and the same western will laud it's performance 🤩 Jai Hind 👏👏👏
Title is extremely misleading and a cheap click bait. Why everyone would hate a plane… despite if is from India or not.
Amarrketing guy from abroad to destroy India,s effort. They want India to buy only foreign fighters. Tejas is a stepping stone for higher configuration
Tejas MK2 is on horizon....... it wil b better than JAS 39 Grippen E
Just like you talked about obsolescence of some systems on Tejas, your video too seems obsolescent particularly when you talk about AESA, when AESA equipped version has flown and going to join the air force in about a month. Is it fair to compare Tejas to Gripen, F16? If so, why are those aircraft participating in MMRCA acquisition program of IAF where the first "M" stands for "Medium" while Tejas original name was LCA, L for "Light"?
Most of the video hides behind generality and not specifics.
Anyway, good attempt but mediocre video at best.
Bad comparison with different class aircrafts.
Don't compare cheeta with tiger both have their own capabilities (pros/cons).
IT'S matter of lack of confidence rather hate. A jet that is not trusted by its own forces cannot win the hearts of others.
who said this jet is not trusted by own people indian government alreadyplace 120 tejas mk1 way bqck in 2020 and now recently government placed another order for 98 more tejas mk1 , also tejas mk2 variant first flight is planned for 2025
Who says it's the most hated jet. It is one of the most loved jet by all indians. Our concerns are only that such statements don't kill the beautiful bird.
I don't know who hates this aircraft, but after doing some research I think this is one of the best aircraft in similar category.
I know India has some brilliant scientists but in engineering sectors they still need many improvement
their most recent "attack drone" is truly a sight to behold
So is the west.
@@alexnderrrthewoke4479 are you regarded?
Problem is our best engineers get MBAs and run off to the US for financially lucrative jobs
@@Just_A_Random_Desk Trust me , that attack drone is a literal joke , that no one including the govt and forces take seriously , he's just another phony dude , we've made much better than this crap in the fast itself ,that attack drone is not by any means the representation of the standards of the indian defense industry.
Your video title does not match most of the content in your video! To my big surprise, as a military analyst, or at least an enthusiast in military technology for a long time, you didn't show some basic abilities of identifying the basic facts in LCA Tejas fighters from MK1, MK1A to MK2. First of all, LCA was originally designed to replace Mig-21 as a low end and point defend fighter. So you can't compare it with F-16. But having that said, the final result of LCA development renders a much more capable and versatile fighter jet that can compete with all 4th gen fighters if not overwhelming them. Foe example, LCA MK1As have all the featured weaponry and avionic as other typical 4th gen fighters, something like AESA radars, BVR capability, sufficient self-defence EW ability, Network-centric warfare capability etc. And the last one is the most important feature in the future for it can make LCA become a powerful node that is linked to the other platforms and also be able to share critical battlefield info in order to better fulfill its missions and protect itself. A lot of early models of F-16s doesn't even have this Network-centric capability. In addition, LCAs are very economically viable, meaning that India can easily product large qualities of them if necessary to meet the country's strategic requirement. At last but not least, the development of LCAs has gave India a valuable experience and expertise in making its future 5th, or even 6th gen fighters like AMCA that is going on right! In my personal views, LCAs are on par with, if not superior to Sweden JAS39 Gripen counterparts.
Can you make a video about the SEPETAC Jaguar? Was an underrated anglo-french close air support cold war fighter, still used by India. There almost no videos of this little bad ass plane on youtube. Thanx for your work!!!
Why you put this caption? Tejas is one of the best fighter jet in it's sector and cost wise. We are Bharatiyas love Tejas❤
It is a “loose clone” of MiG-21.
I can’t hate India for doing this, on any level. Any Nation, imho anyway, that wants to put itself on the world stage Needs…really NEEDS home build equipment.
Regardless of how good or bad this bird is or may be, India has staked a flag and said “here we are…we aren’t moving. Come and see.”
That demands respect and recognition.
That is exactly what India wants…and should be given imo.
I commend them for following thru with the program.
It’s never cheap and it’s never easy.
You know nothing about fighter jets if u call it a loose clone of Mig 21 !!! It was based on the Mirage 2000 , now the latest version is a 4+ gen aircraft!!
Loose clone ? Of Mig 21 ? How ?
The Only Plane that remotely even looks close to Tejas is the SAAB 37 Viggen if you just ignore the canard and Squish the plane down small a little to make it look like a Mirage 2000.
And ironically Rajiv Gandhi was interested in Purchasing Saab 37 too with Bofors , but then Bofors scandal erupted out.
Loose clone haha do you have any idea what are you talking about ?
Tejas is 2 generation ahead of mig 21 . It is a 4th gen aircraft . Mig 21 is a interceptor whereas tejas is a multirole light combat aircraft .
Clone of Mig 21 , do you actually know or have knowledge, in which speed Mig 21 land in runway ??? I hope so NO 🤧
I don't hate it..our Prime minister himself sat on the aircraft
Bhai koi hate nhi krta bas 40 saal se bna rhe fir bhi abhi Tak completed na huwa tab log gussa krte
Ja ke Puncture laga pareshan mat ho bhai 😊😊😊😊😊
This is a light fighter jet aimed to replace 200+ mig-21s. This is not intended to compete or replace medium size jets like mig-29, mirage-2000 or large jet like sukhoi-30.
its half a generation ahead of fighters like Mig29 and Mirage2000. Next level technology.
Tejas Hated in by those who doesn't even know its capabilities......You can also hate a chita compare to Tiger (compare tejas with light combat aircrafts FA 50, Harjet not Medium combat aircrafts F-16, Rafel, J20)
For those 4th & 5th gen jets we are developing Tejas MK 2, HF 47, AMKA 5th gen, TEDBF, FUFA 6 th gen , ORCA ❤
you are forgeting the biggest benefit, tejas is a lot cheaper for the indian airforce to buy then a f-16,
Who told you that everybody hates Tejas?
Anti-Indians people and Import lobbyists I guess
Basically the whole world hates india.. so they do hate tejas too..
And btw we shouldn't even care about their opinions.. those haters are just bunch of trash talkers living in their social media world
IAF already placed orders for 80 Tejas jets. Also finalising to give another 90 Tejas jets. Some anti-Indian media are trying to make negative images on Tejas. But tejas is an exceptional and proved jet.
Tejas was meant to replace Mig 21 and it was meant for war against Pakistan only. But due power projection aspect a bigger ac would be required for which things are in place. We are waiting for Kaveri engine, which here will co through soon.
Mig-21 is my favorite. The AK47 of fighter jets, served the IAF for 6 decades, and inspired the creation of Tejas.
Tejas is best fighter.
You missed how the Indian Air Force has already ordered 180 Tejas Mk1A fighters, and that the Indian Navy has been testing around 5 Tejas Navy Prototypes from its 2 Aircraft Carriers, for almost a decade by now. Infact, the IAF will be getting their first Tejas Mk1A fighters in June 24. So, by 2029, the IAF will have 39 Tejas Mk1 and 180 Tejas Mk1A fighters. Having around 216 (12 Squadrons) indigenous 4th generation fighter jets in a country's Air Force's inventory, is no joke and must get the praise and recognition that it deserves.
so called 5 generation f 35 crashing like flies 😂😂😂
This airport is good for African nations it will be exported...
India is working on 5.5 gen aircraft named AMCA
African nations don't want to buy that shit, they would rather buy Chinese or Russian.
From tank to a jet india have it all.
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Came for the video, stayed for the deranged, angry comments section.
Gotta give HAL one thing, though. The Tejas looks absolutely beautiful.
Tejas Mk 1A and Mk 1 have recently tested with Astra Mk 1 BVR missile with 110 km range which is more than JF 17s PL 12 whose range is 80km and also Astra Mk 1 missile in Tejas have superior range and speed compared to AMRAAM C5
Tejas also has a great safety record and 6000 incident free sorties unlike Gripen which has crashed so many times
Tejas Mk 1A is superior to Gripen C given Gripen C lacks AESA radar
You have inhaled too much Indian copium
India designed a fighter aircraft which is suitable for its extreme whether condition and its demand. Main drawback claimed by its rivals is limited range, India filled the gab by long range missiles.
If someone wants views on UA-cam then makes videos about India 🤣
About 3:45 ish the Marut and Tejas are Indian developed, the Ajeet is a Folland Gnat with updated and improved subsystems - so not an Indian design (although built in India).
About 5:20ish the delta has advantages in straight and level flight but is very "draggy" in a turning fight so you need a higher power to weight ratio to compete with other fighters, e.g. F16 - the Tejas lacks that necessary higher P-to-W ratio.
About 10:30 ish The initial tranches of Eurofighter have a non-AESA radar (possibly the best such radar in the world - large, powerful antenna) look up CAPTOR (not to be confused with CAPTOR-E ECRS in various marks which are AESA radars). So such a radar is not necessarily as bad as it might seem (I don't know the characteristics of the Indian Radar).
Tejas is an adequate aircraft for India - it does the job but not as well as many other aircraft. I think maintaining and developing the skills to design, develop and build in series production a fighter is a key element of the reasoning behind India's decision to continue with development of Tejas. Hopefully, its replacement/next generation will be genuinely competitive with other leading manufacturers.
It is hated by west not by Indians as foreign countries cant see India's growing aviation industry..Tejas is a slap on face of western countries who think they have monopoly...
The title 'Why everyone hates Tejas' marks a beginning of howmuch Matsimus understands Fighter aircrafts.
The Indian Armed forces, a quartermasters nightmare.
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yet they are better equiped than the Canadian Armed Forces.
@@claymclaren5788no shit they are a country of a billion people
@@claymclaren5788 canada dont have hostile neighbour
That’s why Mig 21 is called “flying coffin “ for Indian Airforce pilots. 200 IAF pilots have died in mig 21 jets.
Thanks for your attempt, some points to consider:
1. Tejas is a light combat aircraft (LCA), its not a in the class of F16 etc, for that class Tejas Mark2 (bigger tejas with canards like Rafael) is being developed. (Medium combat aircraft) expected rollout by 2028.
2. Tejas MK1 is not facing problems in exports due to technical problems. Its because:
A. it more capable then its competitors so more expensive too in its class. Order for 120+ Tejas MK1a are under production, orders for another 100 expected soon, so costs will come down with volumes.
B. The problem is also because of use of some imported parts. Some client countries have disputes with countries making these parts and didnt want to depend on them (e.g. Falkland issue of Argentina and UK). Once india developes its own solutions this will be resolved. (UK ejection seats, Israel radar in initial lot soon to be replaced by local, US Engine to be produced locally and nextgen Engine to be co-developed with France, US or UK for future fighters, negotiations going on)
C. Geopolitics plays a big roll in defense procurement, e.g. if USA insists that it's friend or ally purchase secondhand f16s (e.g. Argentina) over tejas, yes it will succeed. (If US offers old F35s for the rate of F16 even india may consider)
3. India is integrating wepons local as well as imported on to it that will make tejas as capable as a higher class of fighters in some areas, with a wide variety of weapons compatibility.