I love the home built 6 cylinder motorbikes Allen makes! The guy is an engineering genius who quite frankly singlehandedly puts the major manufacturers all to shame!
@@Steph.98114 . It has always puzzled me why they never went into production with them or why he didn't get approached by one of the big manufacturers at the time.
I enjoyed this segment tremendously, this resulted in multiple layers of awe being added to my over 40 yrs of a combination of doing and watching. At times I've worried about the soul of mountain biking fading away but you two gentlemen have appeased that concern, thanks
Halloween episodes are my favorites from gmbn. Last year's was hilarious. Love the deep dive on retro mtbs. I could watch doddy getting into the details on a retro bike for hours haha. So interesting to see how the sport evolved and where it came from.
Youve literally listed every bike I wanted as a young kid reading MBUK (with the omission of the whyte prst1 and the Brooklyn machine works) the mad Nicolai bikes and karpiels used to make me drool!
When you go see the millyards Doddy take martyns Bowhead and let Alan look at the front end to see if he can make it not so nose heavy for martyn and a video of you riding the red modern geometry bike please. awesome video guys
Retro mtb vid reaction vid 👌 Edit: So we’re talking Down and Double Down, Sprung 1-5.1, Real Sick, Mud Cows etc… Give these kids some cultural education ✌️
You'd be surprised how many people in eastern Europe (particularly Ukraine & Russia) bought the Karpiels & similar frames. There was a freeriding movement known as 'Streetetz' that demanded seriously strong equipment, it's where a lot of the old Monster-Ts and Azonic Doublewides went.
I can't be the only one that loves the look of the Quasar or Girvin Vector forks. The Millard bike is also gorgeous. King of a cross between an MTB, a Moulton folding bike, and a trellis-framed Ducati.
that Random tandem needs many more peeps on it, there are loads in the MTB world, but i reckon there might be tonnes of other celebs and athletes that would sign up. I am thinking it could be as big as Carpool Karaoke with a new Chat show style roll for Mart and A list tough actors being terrified as Mart takes then down a gnarly decent and scaring them into really interesting and honest answers as you have little ability to craft the typical prepared answers when locked into a berm
The story behind Allen Millyard and his rear shock is that the technology is so old and freely available that nobody could put a patent on it, making it unattractive to the likes of Fox or Rockshox who want to continue selling incremental upgrades and protected IP as part of their competitive nature with other brands. Not to mention, major manufacturers do things differently, not just so we can be cynical about it, but also because that's just how some businesses need to operate.
I've always been curious about the design of that shock, especially how the damping is done but there's a dearth of information about how it actually works inside. The high pressure gas spring is fairly easy to understand, basically an oleo I imagine, but I'm curious about the damping. Based on comments here and there from people that have ridden the thing I'm leaning towards position sensitive orifice damping, possibly using a variable area channel cut into the wall of the oil chamber without any shims or anything. Kind of like a sophisticated recoil damper on a piece of field artillery. Watching Allen Millyard's UA-cam channel I get the feeling the mystery surrounding it was him being a bit mischievous if the tech is so well known. I guess I could always buy an Intend shock and take it apart but they're a bit rich for my blood.
I have a pair of them in 24 inch on my '04 Patriot, they're pretty solid. I always managed to bend the rails on the seats though, I had several of them throughout the noughties. Only seat I found more comfortable was the Azonic Hotseat.
Ooh, oldschool DH bikes, particularly the weird ones, on modern DH courses, is an EXCELLENT idea for a feature! Let's see how things have advanced, and how they compare.
I've seen the Structure Cycleworks bike in person, and chatted with one of the guys from the company at a bike show 3 years ago. Although it's odd looking, I predict that this will eventually be the future of bikes.
I’m a proud owner of a Nicolai Nucleon ST, so I need to put my vote on that one! :) It is super strange to me that they did not include any of the crazy Brooklyn Machine Works projects, you have the TMX with moto seat, the rubber duckie and the Big Link which are ultra extreme FR bikes, just bonkers… and then you have a working 30 foot or so long BMX which would easily be the most extreme bike I have ever seen. It was built for a tv ad or something and it was the size of a school bus and they had to take a team of people to ride it around Brooklyn.
The Millyard is amazing. The X-Lite prototype could possibly have worked well if they just chopped off the seat and didn't put on a seat at all. Standing only. Check out what Lal Bikes are doing. Traditional derailleur without a hangar tensioner.
My dad had the Scott octane but it only had a single shock and seat but there was an adapter like the old Kona dope system, One of my friends then bought it from my dad and he raced it in the SDA
What do people not like about linkage forks? I didn't know about the quasar fork, but I just designed basically the same thing the other day as an idea for an xc fork
the kirk magnesium " thing " , " evolution " ,visually the most beautiful bike ever made , i built one up to exhibition standard , rode it two miles and then sold it on , it was a rubber bike in disguise .
I saw one in a store in N.Z in the middle of nowhere Early 90's, store guys were blown away I knew about it at 13, Store Owner said no you cant ride it....But I will totally let you lift it. We both had a laugh when I picked it up. I learnt that day you can say no to somebody and still be a yes guy.
Im a XC super light bike kinda guy...i won't buy a bike over 25 pounds...but that dark blue Nikolai....pure gorgeousness! Its like seeing the first fish with legs that would later become land animals. Pure design engineering porn.
Not so obvious but I‘d put in the first Scott Ransom with their self designed shock. I had to run this with almost 40 bars of pressure and pumping it up already made me sweat - from the force the pump required but also from the fear of explosion. One day the hose of the pump exploded with a bang and left my ears with beeeeeeeeeeep.
omg...i want those king fisher coloured tyres off that Specialized mtb 3mins into this upload , a little wider & yeah they would awesome with my bianchi coloured mtb
well current MTB's have never been more like a motocross than today. The geo that is. The thing that is still not there is the use of smaller rims with much fatter tires like on a dirtbike and ofcourse smaller wheel at the rear, ie a mullet bike but we kinda already are there to some degree :P
Not sure why DH bikes need pedals? If you deleted them you'd just have pegs as MX bikes and rear sus would be completely sorted. I suppose they wouldn't be bicycles anymore but they hardly pedal on the way down anyway
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I love the home built 6 cylinder motorbikes Allen makes! The guy is an engineering genius who quite frankly singlehandedly puts the major manufacturers all to shame!
The millyard was and still is way ahead of it's time. Best bike ever made.
The mans a genius his motorcycle engine builds are awesome
He's got a UA-cam channel. He is an absolute genius.
Dude came into the industry, made something light years ahead and then left leaving everyone gobsmacked
@@Steph.98114 . It has always puzzled me why they never went into production with them or why he didn't get approached by one of the big manufacturers at the time.
@@garyofficer329 are you sure that he did not get approached at all? Maybe he was approached and was not able to agree on a deal.
We need more of the random tandem. That milyard is just a work of art. I know some one who still runs a sub fork he loves it
I enjoyed this segment tremendously, this resulted in multiple layers of awe being added to my over 40 yrs of a combination of doing and watching. At times I've worried about the soul of mountain biking fading away but you two gentlemen have appeased that concern, thanks
Halloween episodes are my favorites from gmbn. Last year's was hilarious. Love the deep dive on retro mtbs. I could watch doddy getting into the details on a retro bike for hours haha. So interesting to see how the sport evolved and where it came from.
Randem Tandem with Rob Warner is my fave GMBN vid ever..so funny and heartwarming seeing rob and martin playing and laughing like kids together again
Allen Millyard is a legend, his work is amazing.
The X-Lite bike did race, I saw the guys on it at Innerleathen years ago!
Youve literally listed every bike I wanted as a young kid reading MBUK (with the omission of the whyte prst1 and the Brooklyn machine works) the mad Nicolai bikes and karpiels used to make me drool!
Can’t beat the old Brooklyn Machine Works beasts, industrial madness with pedals that eat shins
Looking forward to the Millyard video. That thing is mental
I want to.see the Millard and the structure cycleworks in action
@@outdoorsandiego Jordan Boostmaster tried structure cycleworks at whistler a few years back on his channel!
When you go see the millyards Doddy take martyns Bowhead and let Alan look at the front end to see if he can make it not so nose heavy for martyn and a video of you riding the red modern geometry bike please. awesome video guys
I remember having the USE suspension seat post when I was a kid. The thing exploded under me, I soiled myself
I'm still running one on a 90s Mongoose Alta. Great seatpost but then mine has never exploded.
In the early 2000’s you had to have a foot long Tioga DH saddle and factory 2.3”s if you were going to be taken seriously around here 😎
I’d love to see you guys watching Benders old clips and reacting to them, I dare say it would be very entertaining! Any chance of that video chaps?
Retro mtb vid reaction vid 👌
Edit: So we’re talking Down and Double Down, Sprung 1-5.1, Real Sick, Mud Cows etc…
Give these kids some cultural education ✌️
Missed one. The Ellsworth Dare from 2002 was a thing of true beauty.
You'd be surprised how many people in eastern Europe (particularly Ukraine & Russia) bought the Karpiels & similar frames. There was a freeriding movement known as 'Streetetz' that demanded seriously strong equipment, it's where a lot of the old Monster-Ts and Azonic Doublewides went.
That red millyard bike ❤️🥵
You forgot a more recent one! Jannick Lange's DIY Commencal Supreme with Pinion Gearbox - mental.
You forgot to mention that Nicolai bike also has a disk brake like a cutting saw !! hahaha
Definitely looks like a Halloween bike 😂
Still want some Super Monster-T's for my Solid Mission 9.
Having 8in travel up front is a little wierd when you have 9.4 in the back.
Oh man, that "Praying Mantis" is the coolest thing I've seen on 2 wheels🤤🤤🤤. For the love of biking, I want one, please🙏🙏🙏!
I can't be the only one that loves the look of the Quasar or Girvin Vector forks.
The Millard bike is also gorgeous. King of a cross between an MTB, a Moulton folding bike, and a trellis-framed Ducati.
The Quasar ff - there's was no spring under that rubbah?!?!
Daaaaaamn!
A million thumbs up guys! Love it!
that sub5 fork looks really cool
that Random tandem needs many more peeps on it, there are loads in the MTB world, but i reckon there might be tonnes of other celebs and athletes that would sign up. I am thinking it could be as big as Carpool Karaoke with a new Chat show style roll for Mart and A list tough actors being terrified as Mart takes then down a gnarly decent and scaring them into really interesting and honest answers as you have little ability to craft the typical prepared answers when locked into a berm
7:53 Shocking. I see what you did there.
I bet those shocks are filled with SF₆
The story behind Allen Millyard and his rear shock is that the technology is so old and freely available that nobody could put a patent on it, making it unattractive to the likes of Fox or Rockshox who want to continue selling incremental upgrades and protected IP as part of their competitive nature with other brands.
Not to mention, major manufacturers do things differently, not just so we can be cynical about it, but also because that's just how some businesses need to operate.
I've always been curious about the design of that shock, especially how the damping is done but there's a dearth of information about how it actually works inside.
The high pressure gas spring is fairly easy to understand, basically an oleo I imagine, but I'm curious about the damping.
Based on comments here and there from people that have ridden the thing I'm leaning towards position sensitive orifice damping, possibly using a variable area channel cut into the wall of the oil chamber without any shims or anything. Kind of like a sophisticated recoil damper on a piece of field artillery.
Watching Allen Millyard's UA-cam channel I get the feeling the mystery surrounding it was him being a bit mischievous if the tech is so well known.
I guess I could always buy an Intend shock and take it apart but they're a bit rich for my blood.
Josh Bender created Rampage technically .
A few that should have made the list are the Whyte PRST and the Christini AWD bicycle.
I'm still rocking one of those Tioga rims on my hardtail. Been abused for 20+ years and still runs great with my V-brakes.
I have a pair of them in 24 inch on my '04 Patriot, they're pretty solid. I always managed to bend the rails on the seats though, I had several of them throughout the noughties. Only seat I found more comfortable was the Azonic Hotseat.
That's sick I'm also running vintage tomac rims on my street dh bike 😆
Beauty is in the performance .
Awesome episode... But what does the Green Button on the wall do? Hmmmmm
that blue and silver chainsaw looking nicholi had an avalance fork, they were masssive money back then
The Millyard bike is pretty damn rad!
The Millyard Bike is mindblowing and it's a shame that he isn't making bank off of bigger companies licensing his design.
This video is basically "90s bike designers took a whole lot of chances hoping to hit something that works"
Ooh, oldschool DH bikes, particularly the weird ones, on modern DH courses, is an EXCELLENT idea for a feature!
Let's see how things have advanced, and how they compare.
I've seen the Structure Cycleworks bike in person, and chatted with one of the guys from the company at a bike show 3 years ago. Although it's odd looking, I predict that this will eventually be the future of bikes.
Alas , the Girvin vector fork .
Seen a fork like that on a Touring Fatbike, but the fork was inverted, and the wheel was connected to it. And it did a fantastic job.
I've a headache now, thaaaanks.
Had to stop in the middle to once again sing the praises of Allen Millyard.
Carry on.
20:01 is fun. the bike looks tough. would be nice as cranked expedition tandem.
i wanna ride on the back of that downhill tandem !!! omg such a trip ! great bike !
Woow amazing 🚴 thank you for sharing
Thanks for the support, Putra! 👍
I’m a proud owner of a Nicolai Nucleon ST, so I need to put my vote on that one! :) It is super strange to me that they did not include any of the crazy Brooklyn Machine Works projects, you have the TMX with moto seat, the rubber duckie and the Big Link which are ultra extreme FR bikes, just bonkers… and then you have a working 30 foot or so long BMX which would easily be the most extreme bike I have ever seen. It was built for a tv ad or something and it was the size of a school bus and they had to take a team of people to ride it around Brooklyn.
Never knew I needed a single-sided swingarm on a bicycle...but I do...I really do.
I wanted that Tiago saddle …I won the front fender with the same black with white stripe.
Tioga?
Oh wow, I still own a Tioga stripe seat.
Brooklyn Machine Works?
Wow forgot About Tioga skunk walls. Good rims!
Where are the Brooklyn Machine Works bikes?
Blake's hand built, hardtail "CRAB" is self-described as ScArY !!!
Come on, when are we going to get a shock as good as the Millyard's one for the public to use, I want one badly! Sounds like the progress we need.
Now I want to see a Grave Digger themed bike.
The second bike technically has a Defazio linkage , my 125 scooter had one and an old fella showed me the same set on an old 1930s race bike !
Josh Bender taking 55 foot drops meanwhile I'm trying to find the courage to ride a 4 foot drop with a nice smooth landing.
1994 Foes LTS. If Buck Rogers rode downhill...
What do you think about the Klein Mantra? I have both the Mantra Comp and the Mantra Pro (Aluminum and Carbon). They still turn heads after 20 years.
The Millyard is amazing. The X-Lite prototype could possibly have worked well if they just chopped off the seat and didn't put on a seat at all. Standing only. Check out what Lal Bikes are doing. Traditional derailleur without a hangar tensioner.
I had the opportunity to see the first Karpiel bikes built in Poland in action, before he left to the US
My dad had the Scott octane but it only had a single shock and seat but there was an adapter like the old Kona dope system,
One of my friends then bought it from my dad and he raced it in the SDA
What do people not like about linkage forks? I didn't know about the quasar fork, but I just designed basically the same thing the other day as an idea for an xc fork
Absolutely love this show.
Random Tandem takes the prize!
Great show!
Nucleon DH drove awesome
Great job 👍.
Sick tandem 😂🤘🔥
the kirk magnesium " thing " , " evolution " ,visually the most beautiful bike ever made , i built one up to exhibition standard , rode it two miles and then sold it on , it was a rubber bike in disguise .
I saw one in a store in N.Z in the middle of nowhere Early 90's, store guys were blown away I knew about it at 13, Store Owner said no you cant ride it....But I will totally let you lift it. We both had a laugh when I picked it up. I learnt that day you can say no to somebody and still be a yes guy.
does millard also uses an alfine as a gearbox?, justa as thw gt bike. and what about the lahar? alien rocketship amazing bike.
Im a XC super light bike kinda guy...i won't buy a bike over 25 pounds...but that dark blue Nikolai....pure gorgeousness!
Its like seeing the first fish with legs that would later become land animals. Pure design engineering porn.
nicolai looks like it was built from upcycled cruise ship parts ..barnacles?
George bender style!
In moskay we call it "crtitec" стритец
More Random Tandem please?
Not so obvious but I‘d put in the first Scott Ransom with their self designed shock. I had to run this with almost 40 bars of pressure and pumping it up already made me sweat - from the force the pump required but also from the fear of explosion. One day the hose of the pump exploded with a bang and left my ears with beeeeeeeeeeep.
The Honda bikes that Greg Minnar rode, and the Brooklyn Machine Works bikes.
Josh Bender is the man!
He was a human crash test dummy 😭
omg...i want those king fisher coloured tyres off that Specialized mtb 3mins into this upload , a little wider & yeah they would awesome with my bianchi coloured mtb
kill me haha
The Ibis Bow Ti was a bit different, and an attempt to push the boundaries. Too bad the rear suspension did not work while not seated. 😬
nicolai bikes look like they have a freebie chainsaw in it
Think the x-lite bike was run at a few British events
well current MTB's have never been more like a motocross than today. The geo that is. The thing that is still not there is the use of smaller rims with much fatter tires like on a dirtbike and ofcourse smaller wheel at the rear, ie a mullet bike but we kinda already are there to some degree :P
how many forks are there on a bike? that people have to say front fork, is there a fork in the rear as well?
Let's face it. Most of the reason that the Random Tandem made this list is it's pilot! Martyn Ashton is an animal behind the bars!
Not sure why DH bikes need pedals? If you deleted them you'd just have pegs as MX bikes and rear sus would be completely sorted. I suppose they wouldn't be bicycles anymore but they hardly pedal on the way down anyway
call it eggbeater and it is suddenly functional
So, how can I win a ride on the back on Martyn's tandem?
Hasn’t Yeti successfully done a two shock setup?
When we gonna see the random tandem again?
Where is the Gott from Dreidoppel??
No offence to the legend that is Josh bender but what of the chances of Josh Being born under a full moon and at 12 o’clock and the Midwife pulling a big power handle And saying it’s alive oh sorry it’s boy You cannot have Halloween without Mentioning bender and his trusty sidekick dangerous Dan the trails those boys built Will send shivers down your spine And if you ever ridden one of the trials more than likely you’d have no spine left building 15 foot drops To flat seemed a good idea at the time LOL
What about the laufd fork guys
I want a Nicolai Nucleon Dh
Balfa from Montréal :)
The BB7 was a cool one
Back in the days, there was plenty of skills and less technology... nowadays, lots of tech and too little skills.
U S E Sub-5 fork 😍. Make a double leg version… it will SELL!
BENDER👌