Attack Attack were a game changer. I was the keyboardist/screamer for a PHC/metalcore band between 2009 and 2011 and I'm not going to lie and say we didn't rock the crabcore stage moves. I have video footage of my 22 year old self jogging in place with my Microkorg like Caleb in the Stick Stickly video. What an era to be alive.
I was in the Ohio local metal scene in that time frame. I remember seeing 2 or 3 different bands every weekend in Chillicothe doing the same thing. I was more of a melodic death/ deathcore fan so I remember thinking the PHC and metalcore bands were basically carbon copies
Honestly, hearing all of this about Caleb makes me really proud of him for coming out on top- after going through so much shit with AA, alcohol abuse, depression, Austin Carlile’s antics, and starting an entirely new career under Beartooth not knowing that it would be successful. To this day I love Beartooth and all of this shows that at the end of the day, Caleb is a wonderful man that worked hard to get where he is.
One of AA!’s key contribution was the realization across the metal scene that bad press and cringe was profitable. I’m not sure if that’s a good or bad thing, but it definitely changed the trajectory of how bands approached business forever.
@@GhostofYouZthe march ahead is amazing, his covers of time after time & the story of my life are amazing on top of everything else he wrote with that project
They never said that this would be easy. I have a soft spot for most of Attack Attack’s material. Honestly, they bought something different to the alternative music world at the time, so I got to give them props. It makes me impressed every time I think about them.
I have a fun question/game for every chugga-chug-chug crabby MF in this comments section. 1) Do you have a huge a** playlists of mid and late 00s - 2012/2013-ish metalcore and post-hardcore? and 2) List your highlights. Gimme your deep cuts if you got 'em. Remember Gwen Stacy? Catherine? Five Minute Ride? Those are some of my deep cuts.
When Caleb and John left in 2012, touring guitarist Sean Mackowski also left, along with half of the bands touring crew. I've been wondering for 12 years if there isn't more to the story there.
Caleb in This Means War era was the coolest frontman I know, losing weight and improving his vocals, but all of that cost everything for Caleb. His health and his mentality, but thank God he recover very well and even stepping up his game to his level right now 😊
So many good acts came out of this band man. Attack attacks newest incarnation Beartooth Of mice & men (and dayshell by proxy) The march ahead Billmuri Some of us Nativ All outta this one band.
Attack Attack ripped off ISee Stars, not the otherway around. they were using synth breakdowns & autotune dance parts in 07. Attack attack didnt start them until 08 & the members of Attack Attack have even admitted to ISS that they took pics of their equipment when they saw them play in ohio as ISS was doing self promoted midwest tours way before Attack attack as well & were way younger, thats what held them back & allowed Attack Attack to released their debut first. so you are mistaken about that
Honestly I'm just glad that I wasn't the only one that remembered AA. The last time I was talking with friends about this genre of music NO ONE remembered them. I had to go back and listen to their albums to confirm I wasn't crazy for loving them.
Grew up in central OH and knew Austin for a little bit when his dad and him moved up here. The scene was such a good time around then. 2006/2009ish. Miss may I. Devils wears prada. Asking Alexandria. Underoath. I don't think any of us realized how much fun it was until it was gone lol.
Well done man. I wish you mentioned Bilmuri earlier just because im such a fan but still. So well done. I honestly learned a bunch in this release and i was around them back then lmao. Nice work! Subscribed.
Haha for the longest time back in the day I thought Nick B was Austin because I saw them live back in 09. So when Om&m first dropped I remember telling my friends “Austin, the fat guy screaming from Attack Attack has a new band”. Simpler times I tell ya what. Also your patreon ad is GOATed.
bro this shit is hilarious first you cover dir en grey you add intel dnb in background cover all of my interests and now you slap me with this nostalgia of my metalcore years I lov u
You just had to be there. As someone who watched Suicide Silence, Dr.Acula, iwrestledabearonce, OCEANO and the likes of pass through my town on their way to Illinois you just literally had to be there for this era. We were iconic in our own right no doubt.
Attack attack was always good but I think the shift into “this means war” excited me the most and was necessary for the time. I could be the only one that feels like this but I truly loved that album
I remember seeing AA on tour with ETF and the word alive. Caleb was sick and basically throwing up on stage but was still singing his heart out. Had never listened to them before that and then fell in love with them.
I downloaded the “comeback” ep. Had one really solid song and the others were fine. I wouldn’t say it’s bad but Definitely not as fun and memorable as the old stuff.
Love it! Thanks. It was actually all that mockery of stickly vid that first drew the band to my attention… I thought wow anyone hated on this much has gotta be worth a look haha! And of course contrarian young me loved it- and indeed still does! :)
i been binging your vids for days now off and on, brings me back to the myspace/xanga and vampire freaks days, miss the emo fringe.lmao as always great content!
That's what I said too. The 3rd album was so generic and poor. I'm glad both Johnny and Caleb stayed in their respective projects. I'm not much of a Beartooth guy but he definitely does better there.
I'd like to clear the record on something you said in your video. You alleged I See Stars of ripping off Attack! Attack! but unbeknownst to most, I See Stars actually released demos of their early work that had post hardcore mixed with techno MONTHS before Attack! Attack! ever dropped anything with electronic elements.
it is 100% true, theyve even admitted it to I See Stars when they toured together in 09 when they had Chris Moore on screams/keys. ISS depsertely needs to get Zach back again lol
22:10 the start of this reading confused me and then i realized that AA stood for Attack Attack in this context. For a second i was like "dont go breaking this guy's anonymity, bro" 😂
I loved Nativ! I was really excited with each release they had on SoundCloud and UA-cam, they had alot of potential. The singer, Phil sold me the full LP that was suppose to come out, great record. Beartooth, when I Have A Problem first came out, was hooked. that Sick EP was fucking fire. 10/10. The direction changed alot more melodic rock but i think it represents where Caleb is mentally, alot happier. BILMURI, Johnny boi is just too damn talented! You see how many fucking songs he wrote?!?! Same situation with Beartooth, the day he released bilmuri music, been a fan since and hes still putting out bangers.
that new Beartooth song with HARDY is the shit, tho. i gotta say. i'm from Oklahoma and this state is full of metal cowboys so it hit the spot all the way. another great vid, dude!
I attended their farewell tour but since the lineup didnt have caleb, instead of watching their set I got my head shaved by Landon Tewers of The Plot In You lol
There quite likely wouldn't be Electric Callboy without Attack Attack - both the original lineup as Eskimo Callboy, and the amazing phenomenon they are doing with Nico. Attack Attack ran in place so Electric Callboy could pump it. (The rich techno scene of Germany is just an extra there.)
16:30 don't get it twisted, I See Stars wasn't copying off of Attack Attack. I can see how someone could come to this conclusion, but I grew up as a little scene kid in the 2006-2010 metro Detroit scene where I See Stars is from. When they were playing the local circuits they were a high school band just putting out their debut EP circa 2007, and they had their sound from the beginning. This was before Attack Attack made real waves. The sound they were known for on Someday wasn't exactly there in their EP, but ISS had their signature electronicore sound as far back as their EP in 2007 and even earlier MySpace recordings.
The fact that Caleb Shomo wasn't the vocalist from the start and they went years with a powerhouse in their ranks is CRAZY. You can definitely tell that vocally, Caleb is a far more balanced vocalist both in screams and in cleans and I think how successful Beartooth still are just goes to show that. I love AA don't get me wrong but I think it would have come off as a more musically pleasing group if they had someone with Caleb musical ability from the start on vocal (Sorry Austin). It's also very wild how different the screams from AA are compared to OM&M from Austin. Way more balanced imo
14:46 this mix between metalcore and eletronic music is awesome. Attack attack! basically shaped my taste in music? Can you guys recommend me some songs and bands that do this? Like asking alexandria first album too
😂also the word in in-between two words.falling in reverse, motionless in white, ghost inside...ok that one's technically two words but there's alot more bands like that 😂
I think modern attack attack is just as good. I do think the band has a better future now that they've turned over this new leaf, just need a stick stickly 2 and then all is forgiven
I think it's important to mention that attack attacks comeback album in 2020 was crowd funded by their fans. i definitely don't think it was a shameless cash grab and I also think the music they put on that album was really good for the most part (i simply don't think they make good radio-friendly tunes) but the heavy stuff is fantastic (press F for example). I saw them live about a year ago and got to spend some time with them back stage and they seem like genuinely good dudes. even snagged a couple photos with them.
@0:59 oh Hi Bilmuri, the hog crankin legend
Attack Attack were a game changer. I was the keyboardist/screamer for a PHC/metalcore band between 2009 and 2011 and I'm not going to lie and say we didn't rock the crabcore stage moves. I have video footage of my 22 year old self jogging in place with my Microkorg like Caleb in the Stick Stickly video. What an era to be alive.
I was in the Ohio local metal scene in that time frame. I remember seeing 2 or 3 different bands every weekend in Chillicothe doing the same thing. I was more of a melodic death/ deathcore fan so I remember thinking the PHC and metalcore bands were basically carbon copies
What an era to be alive? 😂 oh, these kids nowdays.
@@8Junio76 I’m 35 lol, I’m very much not “kids these days” get outta here lmao
Honestly, hearing all of this about Caleb makes me really proud of him for coming out on top- after going through so much shit with AA, alcohol abuse, depression, Austin Carlile’s antics, and starting an entirely new career under Beartooth not knowing that it would be successful.
To this day I love Beartooth and all of this shows that at the end of the day, Caleb is a wonderful man that worked hard to get where he is.
i agree!
One of AA!’s key contribution was the realization across the metal scene that bad press and cringe was profitable. I’m not sure if that’s a good or bad thing, but it definitely changed the trajectory of how bands approached business forever.
Johnny Frank still makes killer music by the name of Bilmuri
His first or maybe not project Johnny make is The March Ahead.. it sound so good..for me The March Ahead is better than Bilmuri.
@@GhostofYouZthe march ahead is amazing, his covers of time after time & the story of my life are amazing on top of everything else he wrote with that project
They say he’s still on that island in the sky
Hilarious name lol
Muri naysh!
They never said that this would be easy.
I have a soft spot for most of Attack Attack’s material. Honestly, they bought something different to the alternative music world at the time, so I got to give them props. It makes me impressed every time I think about them.
Interlude from Someday Came Suddenly is still used to this day by sports arenas around the country
That's dope
I have a fun question/game for every chugga-chug-chug crabby MF in this comments section.
1) Do you have a huge a** playlists of mid and late 00s - 2012/2013-ish metalcore and post-hardcore?
and
2) List your highlights. Gimme your deep cuts if you got 'em. Remember Gwen Stacy? Catherine? Five Minute Ride? Those are some of my deep cuts.
two kinds of nostalgia in this video for me, attack attack, and also the silent hill sound effects. its perfect.
When Caleb and John left in 2012, touring guitarist Sean Mackowski also left, along with half of the bands touring crew. I've been wondering for 12 years if there isn't more to the story there.
Wow this was great! Me and my wife’s boyfriend just finished watching this and we were brought to tears! Truly an epic band!
Say what now 😮
LOL WHAT
I'm his boyfriend's boyfriend and I too cried with FXKNate's girlfriend while we watched this@@thenegativoneify
😂😂😂
Wait a minute huh!??
motionless in white 's creatures is my personal favorite of 2010. really of all time
Caleb in This Means War era was the coolest frontman I know, losing weight and improving his vocals, but all of that cost everything for Caleb. His health and his mentality, but thank God he recover very well and even stepping up his game to his level right now 😊
So many good acts came out of this band man.
Attack attacks newest incarnation
Beartooth
Of mice & men (and dayshell by proxy)
The march ahead
Billmuri
Some of us
Nativ
All outta this one band.
Attack Attack ripped off ISee Stars, not the otherway around. they were using synth breakdowns & autotune dance parts in 07. Attack attack didnt start them until 08 & the members of Attack Attack have even admitted to ISS that they took pics of their equipment when they saw them play in ohio as ISS was doing self promoted midwest tours way before Attack attack as well & were way younger, thats what held them back & allowed Attack Attack to released their debut first. so you are mistaken about that
Honestly I'm just glad that I wasn't the only one that remembered AA. The last time I was talking with friends about this genre of music NO ONE remembered them. I had to go back and listen to their albums to confirm I wasn't crazy for loving them.
I directed/edited the music video for Stick Stickly, your right the music video has F-All to do with the lyrics. Great watch BTW
Living legend right here! Any idea where that set was all these years later?
You directed the video? That's freakin awesome!
which one? lol they did 2 or 3 music videos to that song lol
@@Blacklight_Music the location was in Portland, if you google Iconic Nelson House I think it will pop, I think it's gone now though
@@martinjoshuah8309 haha thanks, my lasting legacy on the music video world no doubt
Grew up in central OH and knew Austin for a little bit when his dad and him moved up here.
The scene was such a good time around then. 2006/2009ish.
Miss may I.
Devils wears prada.
Asking Alexandria.
Underoath.
I don't think any of us realized how much fun it was until it was gone lol.
Well done man. I wish you mentioned Bilmuri earlier just because im such a fan but still. So well done. I honestly learned a bunch in this release and i was around them back then lmao. Nice work! Subscribed.
Haha for the longest time back in the day I thought Nick B was Austin because I saw them live back in 09. So when Om&m first dropped I remember telling my friends “Austin, the fat guy screaming from Attack Attack has a new band”. Simpler times I tell ya what. Also your patreon ad is GOATed.
I never thought the band who literally did fucking _crabcore_ and was featured in a Kitty0706 would influence metalcore, amazing.
bro this shit is hilarious
first you cover dir en grey
you add intel dnb in background
cover all of my interests and now you slap me with this nostalgia of my metalcore years
I lov u
I got you 😜
@@graymads were you an Adept fan?
You just had to be there. As someone who watched Suicide Silence, Dr.Acula, iwrestledabearonce, OCEANO and the likes of pass through my town on their way to Illinois you just literally had to be there for this era. We were iconic in our own right no doubt.
Attack Attack! tried to warn us about Austin. And we didn't listen until 2020.
The industry sweeps from those they see as dollar signs.
@@graymadsit's such a shame. Dollars over integrity.
*cough* A Day to Remember *cough*
I think about that one too but I'm not clear on details regarding who warned people before the accusations came out. Was anyone talking about that?
@@Emobeefyfalse allegations
Attack attack was always good but I think the shift into “this means war” excited me the most and was necessary for the time. I could be the only one that feels like this but I truly loved that album
I remember seeing AA on tour with ETF and the word alive. Caleb was sick and basically throwing up on stage but was still singing his heart out. Had never listened to them before that and then fell in love with them.
Woah I didn’t realize how close to beartooths current sound the “This Means War” was until now😂
I love these documentries you put out bruv ! Crabcore is def a vibe lol I appreciate you very much my brother
Always!
“Stick Stickly” Put ‘Em On The Map With Crabcore.
@@One_of_Many750 absolutely homie. I remember all the funny n wild memes that came out after they dropped Stick Stickly
I love these in depth looks at bands that bring me so much nostalgia
🦀bring on the crabs🦀
C R A B P E O P L E
I was excited about AA! Returning until I realized that it's only the Andrews were returning. The band is more a cover band now and it shows.
I had the same reaction, like its cool they still play the old stuff, but its a different band.
I downloaded the “comeback” ep. Had one really solid song and the others were fine. I wouldn’t say it’s bad but Definitely not as fun and memorable as the old stuff.
@@graymadsthey should avoid the two albums and just play songs from "this means war" album
Love it! Thanks. It was actually all that mockery of stickly vid that first drew the band to my attention… I thought wow anyone hated on this much has gotta be worth a look haha! And of course contrarian young me loved it- and indeed still does! :)
i been binging your vids for days now off and on, brings me back to the myspace/xanga and vampire freaks days, miss the emo fringe.lmao as always great content!
Beartooth and billmiri were the best things to come out of attack attack
the peoples elbow is my favorite
My favorite emo band to listen to during skateboarding seshs🤘
Man i forgot that scene feeling, im gonna go listen to some myspace music now
Saw the first run with Caleb fronting and oof it was rough. Never got around to seeing Beartooth, but he had a long way to go in those days.
You can tell Caleb didn’t really know how to scream early on in AA. He was always out of breath on stage. He has gotten a lot better in Beartooth
@jthrock45 theyre coming through in about a month. Im gonna give em a try and see what theyre about. Ive always heard good things
I saw as I lay dying at the church next to my house when I was 15...so dope🤘
graymads once again casually showing they’re the most goated youtube channel around
Attack attack died when Johnny left, let’s be honest
That's what I said too. The 3rd album was so generic and poor. I'm glad both Johnny and Caleb stayed in their respective projects. I'm not much of a Beartooth guy but he definitely does better there.
Attack attack ran so Abbath could walk, crabcore kings
great chronology! really appreciate these videos
Thank you for including the Skate 3 clip. I heard Even Flow the entire time.
Never heard the term “Call to Action” bands until recently. I just always referred to them as “Verb the Noun” bands back then 😂
I honestly love the rise/fall videos. What do you think about DRUGS resurgence and Craig's reimagined versions of some of his projects songs?
#DefendCrabcore always 🔥👏😤🦀🎸
I still cant believe Johnny is Bilmuri haha
Droppin a little nod towards Glasscloud, such a great album.
This means war is my favorite release by them. Caleb schomo is a legend and a huge inspiration for me!
Please do one on a skylit drive. So much to discover on that one band
me in 2010 absolutely lost his mind when the self-titled came out, 10/10 to this day
Should do one of these for Horse The Band.
c r a b c o r e
only the classics
Best AA! vid I've ever had the pleasure of watching. Subbed 💯
idk i love the return of Attack Attack!, i think only one original member but they came back so nice and i can't wait to what else comes from them.
I'd like to clear the record on something you said in your video. You alleged I See Stars of ripping off Attack! Attack! but unbeknownst to most, I See Stars actually released demos of their early work that had post hardcore mixed with techno MONTHS before Attack! Attack! ever dropped anything with electronic elements.
it is 100% true, theyve even admitted it to I See Stars when they toured together in 09 when they had Chris Moore on screams/keys. ISS depsertely needs to get Zach back again lol
22:10 the start of this reading confused me and then i realized that AA stood for Attack Attack in this context. For a second i was like "dont go breaking this guy's anonymity, bro" 😂
AA is still amazing live, super chill guys too
I loved Nativ! I was really excited with each release they had on SoundCloud and UA-cam, they had alot of potential. The singer, Phil sold me the full LP that was suppose to come out, great record.
Beartooth, when I Have A Problem first came out, was hooked. that Sick EP was fucking fire. 10/10. The direction changed alot more melodic rock but i think it represents where Caleb is mentally, alot happier.
BILMURI, Johnny boi is just too damn talented! You see how many fucking songs he wrote?!?! Same situation with Beartooth, the day he released bilmuri music, been a fan since and hes still putting out bangers.
Now Bryan Stars is a name I haven't heard in ages. Completely forgot about that clown.
Man, what a video. Thank you.
that new Beartooth song with HARDY is the shit, tho. i gotta say. i'm from Oklahoma and this state is full of metal cowboys so it hit the spot all the way. another great vid, dude!
this video is amazing.. also...am I hearing some Silent Hill 2 sound effects in this video??
I listen to Some Day Came Suddenly like every day.
hey, man. i'd love to see you do a video on alesana. the emptiness is so fucking good
The Emptiness is kino
This Means War is fucking underrated album! it's aheads of its time!
I attended their farewell tour but since the lineup didnt have caleb, instead of watching their set I got my head shaved by Landon Tewers of The Plot In You lol
Bilmuri was really glanced upon.
Mid
There quite likely wouldn't be Electric Callboy without Attack Attack - both the original lineup as Eskimo Callboy, and the amazing phenomenon they are doing with Nico. Attack Attack ran in place so Electric Callboy could pump it.
(The rich techno scene of Germany is just an extra there.)
Thanks for this summary of millenial lore that I apparently completely missed out on.
Rawr XD to close to the sun 😂😂😂 I forgot that Austin was in attack attack!
you should do one for Breathe Carolina
Crazy wetzels rant sounds exactly like dance Gavin dance rant about Johnny Craig
16:30 don't get it twisted, I See Stars wasn't copying off of Attack Attack. I can see how someone could come to this conclusion, but I grew up as a little scene kid in the 2006-2010 metro Detroit scene where I See Stars is from. When they were playing the local circuits they were a high school band just putting out their debut EP circa 2007, and they had their sound from the beginning. This was before Attack Attack made real waves. The sound they were known for on Someday wasn't exactly there in their EP, but ISS had their signature electronicore sound as far back as their EP in 2007 and even earlier MySpace recordings.
Attack Attack! One of My All Time Favourite Bands.
Caleb Shomo And John Holgado Are My Favorites.
whatever happened to jphn holgado?
or whatever
The fact that Caleb Shomo wasn't the vocalist from the start and they went years with a powerhouse in their ranks is CRAZY. You can definitely tell that vocally, Caleb is a far more balanced vocalist both in screams and in cleans and I think how successful Beartooth still are just goes to show that.
I love AA don't get me wrong but I think it would have come off as a more musically pleasing group if they had someone with Caleb musical ability from the start on vocal (Sorry Austin).
It's also very wild how different the screams from AA are compared to OM&M from Austin. Way more balanced imo
Amazing
Attack Attack even invented Octane core 🙏🏻
36:20 you mean like the thene of the drive thru records welcome to the family cd and booklet from loke 2001?
Does anyone know where to find the for all we know music video he used clips from ?
Hey yo fumbles o brian is the one of the best songs on the album
We Are The Blog turned crabcore technical.
He left attack attack because of god but now he's not even religious haha he swears and shit all the time in billmiri
Please do more videos like this!
Hey I played a show with Crimson Armada once in my home town. When i was in highschool. they was on tour with mychildren mybride
One of those bands ended up stealing guitars and a half stack from us 😂
Crimson Armada was sick too
Youd have to amend this title, to "rise and fall ....and rise again? .. of Attack Attack!
14:46 this mix between metalcore and eletronic music is awesome. Attack attack! basically shaped my taste in music? Can you guys recommend me some songs and bands that do this?
Like asking alexandria first album too
You’d probably like the band I See Stars ^ ^!
Their New Demons album is one of my faves
Fail Emotions/Fatal FE, The Browning, One Morning Left are some of my favorites
Fear and loathing in las vegas first album "Dance and scream"
@@isayandere7057
Oh Hell Yeah!!!
I See Stars “Treehouse” Album Slaps As Well, As “Digital Renegade”.
Rave up tonight is another good FALILV album@@nou.5822
Yoooooo glass cloud, fuck yeah, miss jerry on the scene
43:47 buddy is wearing an OM&M shirt
😂also the word in in-between two words.falling in reverse, motionless in white, ghost inside...ok that one's technically two words but there's alot more bands like that 😂
Bilmuri makes interesting music.
Shomo is an absolutely unfortunate last name.
I think modern attack attack is just as good.
I do think the band has a better future now that they've turned over this new leaf, just need a stick stickly 2 and then all is forgiven
Showing Takashi 69 instead of Dahvie was hilarious
MALICE MIZER MENTIONED‼️🗣️
Wasn’t AC 130 a hate song towards Austin Carlile?
Also if you love GC so much then why not make a video about Jerry Roush?….. please.
I think it's important to mention that attack attacks comeback album in 2020 was crowd funded by their fans. i definitely don't think it was a shameless cash grab and I also think the music they put on that album was really good for the most part (i simply don't think they make good radio-friendly tunes) but the heavy stuff is fantastic (press F for example). I saw them live about a year ago and got to spend some time with them back stage and they seem like genuinely good dudes. even snagged a couple photos with them.
Missed opportunity to show Hillary Clinton partying to the interlude from SCS