Oh definitely I attest to that. Its party coz here in the States we speak American not English lol. btw I'm still waiting for the day we switch over to metric.
The famous TV show "Mythbusters" tested whether one could 'hit the ground running' and found out after many failures, it could not be done. Although the idea of doing it is sound.
I have had a hunch for ten years or more I was not using my DRO to it's potential. Now I know for sure 😀 Excellent explanation of the feature. Being a repairman and not being a production machinists or one who rarely makes more than one part of anything I never bothered to delve into the more advanced features. Maybe someday I should, if simply just for the exercise and learning. Cheers
Hi Stefan, I saw this video come in earlier, alas! I had to do some work.... Just watched, and YES once again very entertaining. I had never thought of using the DRO, to advise position of a set of favorite tool, but great idea. Short yes, but certainly not lacking in information. Thank you. Noel
Very great video Stefan, I knew this features were available, and it is pleasant to see it on video. I guess this might be explained on the DRO manual.. I didn't know the linear scales had reference points. Thank you for showing us !
I just got a new lathe that came with a DRO. No idea what to do with it other than watch the numbers change when I turn the wheels.. lol. This video helps. I like the idea of programing in offsets for each tool. Very useful. Wie immer, vielin dank for das tolles video.
That method almost demands making a few hardened and ground step gauges that could be used for custom shaped HSS lathe tools while doing one off jobs Stefan. Especially when needing to reuse a tool holder with an already known tool off set. I still can't believe just how quiet that geared head lathe is every time I hear it. High quality and precision made machines have an operating sound and feel to match there price level.
Thanks Robin! I guess its way better solved on your HH readout. All this was inspired by you, with your solid toolpost and the way you have your tooling setup. Absolutely love it, its so fast to work that way.
Hi Stefan, nice video showing unknown advantages in using a DRO. In addition could you please show us in detail the mechanical installation of the linear encoders to your lathe? Thanks.
Funny, I didn't know there was a homing function. I'll have to see if my Chinese ones have the same thing. Thanks for that! I often prefer to take my cut, then a spring pass before measuring so that I have an idea of what my dimension is with less tool pressure (in steel at least) and go from there, any downsides you could see from doing it this way? Thanks for the video, hopefully the next one isn't far behind! Kyle
Very useful info, I'm about to buy some new scales, but I think I'm going to head down the TouchDRO route, have you heard of it? It can use pretty much any linear scale and it interfaces with any android phone or tablet and is apparently very configurable. Should be fairly straight forward with your arduino experience.
To me, the arrow keys on these import DRO's work backwards. The Right or Up arrow key cycles SDM 4, 3, 2, 1, and the Left or Down arrow key cycles SDM 1, 2, 3, 4. This is very counter intuitive to me and very annoying. Do you (or anyone) know if or how to change this behavior on these units? Thank you
Excellent video Stefan as usual. My DRO's have the REF function but I use magnetic scales. I am not sure if they support the REF function. Any ideas? I will ask my supplier!
am courious am thinking of doing this on my lathe..is the reading still cutting on a radius..dial hoy are one but cutting two..digital does it compensate one to one
Typically you can set this in the parameters so that the DRO shows either linear measurements or interpretes it as radius and shows it as a diameter on the readout.
Yeah mate, not everyone own a DRO. Wouldn't worry about people not watching the video for that reason. I don't own a lathe. Not even a drillpress. Still watches your videos. Suspect that is the case for most of your viewers.
Hallo Stefan, gibt es mit den Sino-Anzeigen denn viele Probleme? Ich habe so eine seit vielen Jahren an der Fräsmaschine. Die funktioniert absolut einwandfrei. Manche Funktionen haben zwar so ihre Eigenheiten bei der Eingabe der Parameter, aber ansonsten ist die wirklich top.
I’m Looking into manual lathes. A 1440 for your type of work in your opinion, Would this size lathe perhaps be harder to navigate or less Productive. Thanks
Yes, something like a 1440 would be to much for what I do - I used to use a Weiler Condor 81 at work a bit for small parts and I disliked it a lot. Heavy, large toolholders, everything is far more distance to move your hands, the tailstock weights a ton, etc. I
You should look into TouchDRO from Yuriy's Toys. It's a small circuit board that the scales are connected to, which then connects to a tablet via Bluetooth. The TouchDRO app has a much more intuitive interface than that display in the vid, and a huge amount of functions. Tool library, work offsets, all the bells and whistles. It's also compatible with pretty much any scales.
@@StefanGotteswinter I've not had any problems with dirty hands on the tablet. I use a cheap Amazon Fire tablet, was less than $50. Glass screen means fingerprints are gone with a swipe of a rag and a bit of alcohol. It's really nice to have an actual (onscreen) keyboard to enter data, and adding/changing tools is a tap away. As for boot up, I just wake the tablet, open the app, and make chips. Though I'm only a hobbyist, and not doing nearly the amount of machining you do (and certainly not nearly the quality work that you do).
Geil is auch das jede messstab anzeige - egal ob heidenhain oder chinesin den gleichen summer drin hat wie die waage an der wursttheke beim Metzger. Da kommt ma sich beim drehen schonmal vor wie beim leberkassemmeln kaufen. :D "Piep piep piep piepiep, derf's sunsd nu wos sei...?" Sry for offtopic :P Gutes video! ;)
Hobala, do war i wohl mim falschen account eingeloggt *facepalm* hehe Aber des mim Piepsen wär doch a klassischer thiesoldtony gag oda? :D Is nur die frage wie ma bayerischen humor verlustfrei ins englische übersetzt...
Why not Z axel, ref the Z also-> skimm end off part with"tool 1" and zero Z. Now "Tool 2" but insted cutting use 10mm pin bitween part and tool after that hit DRO Z 10mm and so one..... After that tool 1 marks allways zero Point.
"Hit the ground running" is indeed the correct English idiom. To be perfectly honest, you speak better English than a lot of Americans I know.
Oh definitely I attest to that. Its party coz here in the States we speak American not English lol. btw I'm still waiting for the day we switch over to metric.
Actually, he is a secret Alice Merton fan. ^^
The famous TV show "Mythbusters" tested whether one could 'hit the ground running' and found out after many failures, it could not be done. Although the idea of doing it is sound.
Sad but true.
That's a Bingo! ua-cam.com/video/O5s3Oj2cPgc/v-deo.html
I have had a hunch for ten years or more I was not using my DRO to it's potential. Now I know for sure 😀 Excellent explanation of the feature. Being a repairman and not being a production machinists or one who rarely makes more than one part of anything I never bothered to delve into the more advanced features. Maybe someday I should, if simply just for the exercise and learning.
Cheers
There is soooo much valuable information in this that I'm going to steal and put into my own DRO project, thanks! :D
Learn something every time. You reinforce how to think outside the box. Thank you
Great video, as always! Keep up the good work!👍😀
Hi Stefan,
I saw this video come in earlier, alas! I had to do some work....
Just watched, and YES once again very entertaining. I had never thought of using the DRO, to advise position of a set of favorite tool, but great idea.
Short yes, but certainly not lacking in information.
Thank you.
Noel
Nice feature👍. Thanks for the video Stefan.
Thanks Steve!
I will give a try when my new lathe will arrive next mont . TANKS!
Very great video Stefan, I knew this features were available, and it is pleasant to see it on video. I guess this might be explained on the DRO manual..
I didn't know the linear scales had reference points.
Thank you for showing us !
I just got a new lathe that came with a DRO. No idea what to do with it other than watch the numbers change when I turn the wheels.. lol. This video helps. I like the idea of programing in offsets for each tool. Very useful. Wie immer, vielin dank for das tolles video.
Very good content and well explained. Thanks again for putting forth the effort to produce great video. Well done !!!***
Really enjoyed. Thanks!
That method almost demands making a few hardened and ground step gauges that could be used for custom shaped HSS lathe tools while doing one off jobs Stefan. Especially when needing to reuse a tool holder with an already known tool off set. I still can't believe just how quiet that geared head lathe is every time I hear it. High quality and precision made machines have an operating sound and feel to match there price level.
Great video mate, I’d love to have a DRO on my lathe, maybe one day, thank you for sharing, ATB matty🇦🇺
Thanks for sharing, very interesting.
Super Helpful, thank you!
P.S.
Love the rework of your web page. I know it cost you a lot if time, but the readability and sesrchability, now, ist fantastische.
Thanks for the video.
Nice Stefan, I will have to try that ;-)
ATB, Robin
Thanks Robin! I guess its way better solved on your HH readout.
All this was inspired by you, with your solid toolpost and the way you have your tooling setup. Absolutely love it, its so fast to work that way.
Never bothered using that function before but will try it now
Danke! Sehr interessant! :)
There small nowdays , the mitutoyo linear dro on my big mill is the size of a microwave oven !
Hi Stefan,
nice video showing unknown advantages in using a DRO. In addition could you please show us in detail the mechanical installation of the linear encoders to your lathe? Thanks.
brilliant
Thanks Stephen, great content for things ive never known about my DRO's
Great for those production runs of the same part. Regards MachineNZ
Even for one off parts its great, if most of the tools are already setup and ready to go :)
Guessing I have to build a solid base now
What if I don't have a REF button?
Just like ThisOldTony said, if you are not a good kid, Santa Claus will bring you an S-importer DRO.
Funny, I didn't know there was a homing function. I'll have to see if my Chinese ones have the same thing. Thanks for that!
I often prefer to take my cut, then a spring pass before measuring so that I have an idea of what my dimension is with less tool pressure (in steel at least) and go from there, any downsides you could see from doing it this way?
Thanks for the video, hopefully the next one isn't far behind!
Kyle
Hi Stefan, why do you have the lathe Z axis scale connected to Y axis on the DRO? Also, why not use both X and Z offsets for the tools?
Very useful info, I'm about to buy some new scales, but I think I'm going to head down the TouchDRO route, have you heard of it? It can use pretty much any linear scale and it interfaces with any android phone or tablet and is apparently very configurable. Should be fairly straight forward with your arduino experience.
How are you thread cutting without the compound?
Thanks for the vid
Straight infeed.
what scales did you use for the Emco S11? I need to equip my metric unit The D60-3v seems usable! did you get them on ebay?
Stephan,
Please tell us the model number you are showing us in the vijeo.
That old Tony got me here xD
To me, the arrow keys on these import DRO's work backwards. The Right or Up arrow key cycles SDM 4, 3, 2, 1, and the Left or Down arrow key cycles SDM 1, 2, 3, 4. This is very counter intuitive to me and very annoying. Do you (or anyone) know if or how to change this behavior on these units? Thank you
The face looks just like my Newall DRO. that I have on my 18 x 60 lathe .
Excellent video Stefan as usual. My DRO's have the REF function but I use magnetic scales. I am not sure if they support the REF function. Any ideas? I will ask my supplier!
I have a magnetic scale on one of my axes and it had one.
Was that material PEEK?
Removed the compound slide. Won't that make thread cutting more of a challenge?
Only with very large threads, most don't need to go over 2mm pitch which is still fine with plunge feeding
am courious am thinking of doing this on my lathe..is the reading still cutting on a radius..dial hoy are one but cutting two..digital does it compensate one to one
Typically you can set this in the parameters so that the DRO shows either linear measurements or interpretes it as radius and shows it as a diameter on the readout.
Yeah mate, not everyone own a DRO. Wouldn't worry about people not watching the video for that reason. I don't own a lathe. Not even a drillpress. Still watches your videos. Suspect that is the case for most of your viewers.
I have had a block of steel for over a year to make a solid tool post for my 11 and a cheap DRO from Yuris toys. one of these days.......
#thisoldtony - TONY! He mentioned you!!!
Hallo Stefan, gibt es mit den Sino-Anzeigen denn viele Probleme? Ich habe so eine seit vielen Jahren an der Fräsmaschine. Die funktioniert absolut einwandfrei. Manche Funktionen haben zwar so ihre Eigenheiten bei der Eingabe der Parameter, aber ansonsten ist die wirklich top.
Nein keine Probleme. Ich sag das S-Wort nur nicht :)
This makes me wonder if there are homeing references on my new all scales.....
I’m Looking into manual lathes. A 1440 for your type of work in your opinion, Would this size lathe perhaps be harder to navigate or less Productive. Thanks
Yes, something like a 1440 would be to much for what I do - I used to use a Weiler Condor 81 at work a bit for small parts and I disliked it a lot. Heavy, large toolholders, everything is far more distance to move your hands, the tailstock weights a ton, etc.
I
Stefan Gotteswinter there are some lathes that fit what I need. The lowest rpm is 150. Is this a problem in your opinion. Thanks
Please what Classical piece is that in the intro?
I think it's "Prokofiev - Romeo And Juliet - Montagues And Capulets"?
@@beornjohnson2025 it sounds similar, but not that. It's ua-cam.com/video/2z5rMNH_yTI/v-deo.html
You should look into TouchDRO from Yuriy's Toys. It's a small circuit board that the scales are connected to, which then connects to a tablet via Bluetooth. The TouchDRO app has a much more intuitive interface than that display in the vid, and a huge amount of functions. Tool library, work offsets, all the bells and whistles. It's also compatible with pretty much any scales.
I have no interest in touch-anything in the shop. Does not work with oily/dirty fingers. Gimme buttons any day. Plus no real bootuptime.
@@StefanGotteswinter I've not had any problems with dirty hands on the tablet. I use a cheap Amazon Fire tablet, was less than $50. Glass screen means fingerprints are gone with a swipe of a rag and a bit of alcohol.
It's really nice to have an actual (onscreen) keyboard to enter data, and adding/changing tools is a tap away.
As for boot up, I just wake the tablet, open the app, and make chips.
Though I'm only a hobbyist, and not doing nearly the amount of machining you do (and certainly not nearly the quality work that you do).
Geil is auch das jede messstab anzeige - egal ob heidenhain oder chinesin den gleichen summer drin hat wie die waage an der wursttheke beim Metzger.
Da kommt ma sich beim drehen schonmal vor wie beim leberkassemmeln kaufen. :D
"Piep piep piep piepiep, derf's sunsd nu wos sei...?"
Sry for offtopic :P
Gutes video! ;)
Leberkäs für 2Eur bitte!
Hobala, do war i wohl mim falschen account eingeloggt *facepalm* hehe
Aber des mim Piepsen wär doch a klassischer thiesoldtony gag oda? :D
Is nur die frage wie ma bayerischen humor verlustfrei ins englische übersetzt...
Я ни ничего не понял, но это круто!
"I dont understand this penis, but this is cool," Khlob.
Kasual it's rather "I didn't understand a f**k, but it's cool"
@@frigzy3748 Yes!
Why not Z axel, ref the Z also-> skimm end off part with"tool 1" and zero Z. Now "Tool 2" but insted cutting use 10mm pin bitween part and tool after that hit DRO Z 10mm and so one..... After that tool 1 marks allways zero Point.
This only works if you never move your toolpost.
Almost?? Come on Sefan.. 2 microns is 2 microns..... ;-)
Thats within measurement-uncertainty ;)
you are worried you will get in trouble for saying the name of a manufacturer of equipment which there are many of?
:D:D:D first!
Dont you have a sign to paint? :D
@@StefanGotteswinter watching paint dry.. same thing really. hahha now im trolling.
Thats fair :D