Questions? Thoughts? Forgot to set the aspect ratio for marvel vs capcom to 4:3. It looks much better with the correct aspect ratio. PS: "Line 5x multiplied" not "line doubled" lol
@@el_rabserino AFAIK, if the PS2 is set to RGB output, it uses scart TV compatible RGBs for SDTV (240p/288p/480i/576i) but switches to RGsB (sync on green) for progressive HDTV and VGA modes - have you tried setting your OSSC to RGsB on the scart input ? maybe that might do the trick ...
I've used this method myself. Game compatibility of GSM (even forcing 240p, not higher resolutions) is unfortunately spotty and it can be frustrating when things seem to be working, only to encounter a crash or desync during a cutscene later in the session. My current method is to externally downscale to 240p via a GBS-Control and then play that on a PVM. Tempted to run it back into another scaler, as with the use of the OSSC in this video.
Crispy, but some game look not so good in 240p. I use gbs with ossc. Sometimes using downscaler. But i like adaptive motion deinterlacing better. Thank for the video
Wow. That is truly transformative. I've never seen PS2 look as good as it does here downscaled to 240p and then line quintupled with the OSSC. Truly impressive.
I tried the same setup you showed for the ossc after forcing 240p and it looks great on line4x (I still think line5x cut a bit too much of on screen content for my liking). I am playing the adventure island ps2 game that was 480i only with forfed 240p and it looks awesome, the scanlines really help
Heya, great video as always! May I ask how do you manage to seamlessly capture resolution switch with your capture card? I also have an elgato HD60 S+ and that thing constantly loses signal with OSSC whenever a resolution change occurs. I have to manually deactive the device in OBS and re-enable it for the new resolution to be picked up. Thing's driving me nuts.
Same capture card and I have no fix for the signal loss when resolution is switched but its not a big deal for me because I don't stream or just use the retrotink5x :)
@@wobblingpixels3921 ah, so you're also experiencing it. Cause in the Shadow of the Colossus Segment it looked like it switched perfectly for you when you changed to progressive scan. In my case it would've just straight up lost signal until I rebooted the device from OBS.
Thanks for showing the fighting game. Menu text is hard to read due to dropping half the vertical resolution to go 240p. Race car pixel wobble and the "9" I assume are better on true 480i. I like that you showed ugly bob deinterlacing jitter to contrast. I think motion adaptive de-interlacing is the best option but adds lag and can't hot swap a resolution change. Everything has a tradeoff. Sometimes a smoothing filter looks surprisingly good. Is scaling to 1080i that will not be de-interlaced on HD CRT and early LCD, the dream? Some modern ghetto LCDs that don't do 1080p. Maybe they're too dumb to de-interlace.
I think you can force 240p for ps2 games, when you use Tony haxs. I launched Tony haxs and put in my burned copy of CTR. After I was done I switched to Spider-Man 2 and lord of the rings via opl, and both games looked incredible. Best quality I’ve ever seen from them! Just have to not turn off the PlayStation after you change games. Just hit the reset button once so that it goes back to main menu.
Personally, I think interlaced video games is a unique case scenario where you need not shell out hundreds of dollars for a Framemeister or OSSC and can just play as is on a HDTV. Since the content is more on spec with what your TV or capture card is expecting, you need not worry about compatibility issues. But if you really need an upscale, in this case even a cheap SCART or component to HDMI device will do as good a job deinterlacing as a Framemeister since the content is the same resolution as VCRs or DVD recorders.
Enable "Skip Video Fix" is a very high trade off in certain games. 1080i doesn't look that bad on certain games like for example GTA I must say via OSSC?! I had no luck with 1080i on GBS-C doesn't he support it? would be nice to use motion adaptive de-interlacing on it but I feel like OSSC is sharper in any way than the GBS-C
11:25 Is that Ridge Racer? Man... It almost looks like a PS3-game, maybe a little bit low res. I wonder how GT4 at 1080i (native mode, but at 640x540 + y-pixel offset-shift) but WITH "blend through scanlines" would look like!
Yep that Ridge Racer 5. GT4 in 1080i? Looks nice but than you have to use Bob deinterlacing which we try to avoid with this tutorial. I would use 480p and than line double to 960p.
This is a lot of trouble to go to just to avoid bob deinterlacing. If someone was super bothered by it, I'd just recommend buying a scaler with motion adaptive deinterlacing. GBS-C isn't the greatest scaler, but it's fairly cheap and can do motion adaptive deinterlacing, so you could buy one purely for use with interlaced content. Then again, bob deinterlacing doesn't even look all that bad to me.
hello, i wonder if you could help, I'm using the widescreen .cht for silent hill 2 and it works perfectly on 480i.. but in 480p the image is narrow on the screen, a 4:3 image even in 16:9 mode with everything squashed (gsm in opl only has one 480p HDTV mode: 640x480) thanks for your help
Questions? Thoughts? Forgot to set the aspect ratio for marvel vs capcom to 4:3. It looks much better with the correct aspect ratio.
PS: "Line 5x multiplied" not "line doubled" lol
Can the OSSC accept a 1080p signal ? Mine doesn't recognize the signal when GSM is set to 1080p.
@@el_rabserino Yes this should be possible. I use OSSC and GSM 1080p mode.
@@wobblingpixels3921 With a component cable ? I'm using an RGB cable, maybe that's the issue.
@@el_rabserino AFAIK, if the PS2 is set to RGB output, it uses scart TV compatible RGBs for SDTV (240p/288p/480i/576i) but switches to RGsB (sync on green) for progressive HDTV and VGA modes - have you tried setting your OSSC to RGsB on the scart input ? maybe that might do the trick ...
Wait this was published today and I was just trying to search for this. Thanks for the perfect timing.
I've used this method myself. Game compatibility of GSM (even forcing 240p, not higher resolutions) is unfortunately spotty and it can be frustrating when things seem to be working, only to encounter a crash or desync during a cutscene later in the session.
My current method is to externally downscale to 240p via a GBS-Control and then play that on a PVM. Tempted to run it back into another scaler, as with the use of the OSSC in this video.
I saved 300$ from the RT5X thanks to you.
Not all games are compatible with GSM ;) but I am happy to help you.
@@wobblingpixels3921 Is there any compatibility list for forced 240p through GSM? Everything I find is 480p and above :(
@@xuano666 not to my knowledge but from my testing some titles that are not comaptible with 480p GSM can be downscaled to 240p like Jak & daxter 1
Crispy, but some game look not so good in 240p. I use gbs with ossc. Sometimes using downscaler. But i like adaptive motion deinterlacing better.
Thank for the video
Wow. That is truly transformative. I've never seen PS2 look as good as it does here downscaled to 240p and then line quintupled with the OSSC. Truly impressive.
silent hill 2 has never looked better. Thanks.
Will try the Mode 4 thing with Gradius V (which is tricky to get to upscale without crashing), thanks!
I tried the same setup you showed for the ossc after forcing 240p and it looks great on line4x (I still think line5x cut a bit too much of on screen content for my liking). I am playing the adventure island ps2 game that was 480i only with forfed 240p and it looks awesome, the scanlines really help
Heya, great video as always! May I ask how do you manage to seamlessly capture resolution switch with your capture card? I also have an elgato HD60 S+ and that thing constantly loses signal with OSSC whenever a resolution change occurs. I have to manually deactive the device in OBS and re-enable it for the new resolution to be picked up. Thing's driving me nuts.
Same capture card and I have no fix for the signal loss when resolution is switched but its not a big deal for me because I don't stream or just use the retrotink5x :)
@@wobblingpixels3921 ah, so you're also experiencing it. Cause in the Shadow of the Colossus Segment it looked like it switched perfectly for you when you changed to progressive scan. In my case it would've just straight up lost signal until I rebooted the device from OBS.
@@serjangelo No, thats a spliced video put in one. ;)
Thanks for showing the fighting game. Menu text is hard to read due to dropping half the vertical resolution to go 240p. Race car pixel wobble and the "9" I assume are better on true 480i. I like that you showed ugly bob deinterlacing jitter to contrast. I think motion adaptive de-interlacing is the best option but adds lag and can't hot swap a resolution change. Everything has a tradeoff. Sometimes a smoothing filter looks surprisingly good.
Is scaling to 1080i that will not be de-interlaced on HD CRT and early LCD, the dream? Some modern ghetto LCDs that don't do 1080p. Maybe they're too dumb to de-interlace.
I think you can force 240p for ps2 games, when you use Tony haxs. I launched Tony haxs and put in my burned copy of CTR. After I was done I switched to Spider-Man 2 and lord of the rings via opl, and both games looked incredible. Best quality I’ve ever seen from them! Just have to not turn off the PlayStation after you change games. Just hit the reset button once so that it goes back to main menu.
Fantastic channel, keep up the outstanding work 👏
Personally, I think interlaced video games is a unique case scenario where you need not shell out hundreds of dollars for a Framemeister or OSSC and can just play as is on a HDTV. Since the content is more on spec with what your TV or capture card is expecting, you need not worry about compatibility issues. But if you really need an upscale, in this case even a cheap SCART or component to HDMI device will do as good a job deinterlacing as a Framemeister since the content is the same resolution as VCRs or DVD recorders.
Enable "Skip Video Fix" is a very high trade off in certain games. 1080i doesn't look that bad on certain games like for example GTA I must say via OSSC?! I had no luck with 1080i on GBS-C doesn't he support it? would be nice to use motion adaptive de-interlacing on it but I feel like OSSC is sharper in any way than the GBS-C
What capture card do you use to capture all this? I know many will not support resolutions like this.
elgato hd60s+ + OSB software
11:25 Is that Ridge Racer? Man... It almost looks like a PS3-game, maybe a little bit low res.
I wonder how GT4 at 1080i (native mode, but at 640x540 + y-pixel offset-shift) but WITH "blend through scanlines" would look like!
Yep that Ridge Racer 5. GT4 in 1080i? Looks nice but than you have to use Bob deinterlacing which we try to avoid with this tutorial. I would use 480p and than line double to 960p.
@@wobblingpixels3921 I mean... 640x540p line-doubled with "half-transparent"/blending scanlines.
@@tnaplastic2182 ok i see what you mean. Unfortunately it doesn't work. game freezes before race.
@@wobblingpixels3921 Arrrr... That's bad. I suppose we can improve visual appearance by some hacks of the game-elf! ;)
Nice video as always!
This is a lot of trouble to go to just to avoid bob deinterlacing. If someone was super bothered by it, I'd just recommend buying a scaler with motion adaptive deinterlacing. GBS-C isn't the greatest scaler, but it's fairly cheap and can do motion adaptive deinterlacing, so you could buy one purely for use with interlaced content. Then again, bob deinterlacing doesn't even look all that bad to me.
wery nice and informative video!
hello, i wonder if you could help, I'm using the widescreen .cht for silent hill 2 and it works perfectly on 480i.. but in 480p the image is narrow on the screen, a 4:3 image even in 16:9 mode with everything squashed (gsm in opl only has one 480p HDTV mode: 640x480)
thanks for your help
I'm trying to turn off deinterlacing altogether and output an interlaced signal in 1080i. Is there a way to do this?
Topperson
the second I tuned GSM everything turned green. Not the whole screen but a lot of the icons
Du you use component cable?
Managed to get it working but my TV keeps losing signal when trying to play in 240p without a scaler
Is it possible to downscale ps2 with gbs control then line 5x it with OSSC?
hast du auch ein video wie man dieses GSM auf die konsole bekommt?
Do the GSM 0.23 settings save to the memory card or do I have to set them each time I play a game?
as long you save the settings as in the video described you don't have to set the settings again
@@wobblingpixels3921 are the settings the same for every PS2 game? the "DX, DY, DW and DH"
@@MichaelM28 most likely
@@wobblingpixels3921 tried rebooting and the settings were lost. do I have to open GSM 0.23 every time I reboot my PS2?
@@MichaelM28 Did you saved it as in the video described?
What am I supposed to set the DX, DY, DW and DH to?
Shoot. I wish I had the attention span to watch a video with out narration