To put this simply, the reason the cape was disabled is because super monkeys were disabled. This is mainly to stop primary only cheese, but it also means that you can't use them in the challenge editor.
not that it mattered, but you probably lost a chunk of money by spamming the 000 darts at the beginning instead of putting them down one at a time and upgrading them to tier 3-4 one at a time, because of the all together everybody MK that makes primary tower upgrades cheaper when all primary towers are t3 or 4. This also applies to the cost of the t5, though obviously once you buy a t5 you can't benefit anymore because not all primary towers are t3-4 anymore, but it still means you get a good discount on whatever t5 you go for first, as well as opening the possibility of saving cash on the t4 upgrades if you do the order right
And also wasting all your money on 000 darts then almost dying to the first lead was silly. Selling and rebuying wastes even more. Not even gonna talk about buying 14 SM fan clubs instead of saving or something.
I'm too lazy to test this right now, but I think that the cape didn't work because you have super monkeys disabled on the challenge, and it doesn't want you to cheese your way into getting super monkeys if the challenge doesn't want it.
I really like this video idea, this was extremely entertaining to watch! I hope you decide to try this with all monkeys (maybe you’ll have to use Etienne for monkeys that can’t see camo)
it's so interesting how someone can have so many hours and miss basic stuff like spots on balance or the worn cape limitation (it becomes very evident when doing oddesseys lol) interesting stuff
Idk if this is it, but I think you can't use the hero's cape because the super monkey is banned, and you techically need the base tower to even buy its upgrades
you cant use the hero's cape because you dont have supermonkey as a playable tower, since supermonkey isn't available, the cape supermonkey isn't either. To avoid this you can just not ban supermonkey, then u can use cape.
could you have continued going if you sold the plasma fan club again? it was doing basically nothing while on cooldown, and selling it would have given your paragon +10% attack speed which might have been enough you could maybe have squeezed out some extra rounds if you had the PMFC ready to go, and when you encountered the "this is the last round" round, activated the ability and sold it, so you had the darts under its effect alongside the 10% bonus?
Would be interesting to see a video on how far you could go in 4p co-op, with 4x the tier 5s it'd surely be a lot further/more efficient than in solo. Although the co-op lag would make it mega unplayable. Also I bet boat makes it the furthest, since it can actually econ for higher tiers plus the Navarch's hook lets it insta-kill BADS
Co-op would go less far than standard singleplayer easy freeplay simply because the only reason he lost was lag and co-op isn't exactly going to help that. It may help out in chimps tho.
I'm glad you chose to do this on Balance. Every challenge being on Resort, Cubism and Logs definitely gets monotonous. Also I feel like for consistnecy, the other towers you do this with should also be locked to Geraldo, even if there's a better hero (like Adora for super monkies)
@@srensen3081 You just have to be able to place them before you lose, even if you leak a few rounds. I do that a lot in my personal runs; doing the first couple rounds with no towers to save up for the thing I want to place fiirst
Mackan are you gonna allow villages or farms in one of these, i think it would be interesting to see how some of them deal with lead or camo. Also when you do the village you should give yourself enough money to buy a primary expertise instantly
I don't think i will allow using a village or a farm in addition to whatever tower im testing. But yeah i probably will include the village and farm as episodes at the end of the series :)
Bottom crosspath for juggernaut increases projectile lifespan resulting in more bounces which could make this crosspath superior for maps like balance. But further investigation is needed so people please leave a comment if you know if thats true🙏🏻
What tower would get the farthest in this challenge?
Banana farm 100%
probably boat ace super or ninja because of paragons/vtsg
For rhe towers without any camo or lead popping r u going to use an MIB?? I think ninja will go far!!
Village🗣️🗣️
Boat, can make money, get paragon and has good t5s anyway
To put this simply, the reason the cape was disabled is because super monkeys were disabled. This is mainly to stop primary only cheese, but it also means that you can't use them in the challenge editor.
He couldn't choose between a map for supermonkeys and a map for the paragon, so he went with a balance
*perfectly balanced, as all things should be*
Heh
@@bananaspice1967ehe
Hey, would you mind to give me the taco at your profile picture?
@@justpvz2978 and here some hot sauce 🔴
You cannot use the worn hero cape because the super monkey is banned. It counts as using the super monkey
"Waaa I need to complain about something waaa"👶👶
@@oszlop5896hes not complaining hes just explaining
@@oszlop5896?
@@oszlop5896 Dude, just watch the video
but he didnt use the cape?
"where the balls can bounce around like crazy, it's just really satisfying".
-MackanRules, 2024 (6:43)
Mackan: Only Dart Monkeys
Also Mackan: Why can't I get a super monkey?! xdd
LOL :'D
not that it mattered, but you probably lost a chunk of money by spamming the 000 darts at the beginning instead of putting them down one at a time and upgrading them to tier 3-4 one at a time, because of the all together everybody MK that makes primary tower upgrades cheaper when all primary towers are t3 or 4. This also applies to the cost of the t5, though obviously once you buy a t5 you can't benefit anymore because not all primary towers are t3-4 anymore, but it still means you get a good discount on whatever t5 you go for first, as well as opening the possibility of saving cash on the t4 upgrades if you do the order right
And also wasting all your money on 000 darts then almost dying to the first lead was silly.
Selling and rebuying wastes even more.
Not even gonna talk about buying 14 SM fan clubs instead of saving or something.
@@gregoirebasseville4797dude. that was like, 1500 dollars. he was not making it+1 round because of 1500 dollars dude
You banned the super monkey.
That's why you can't turn a dart monkey into a super monkey.
that's also why you can; t get it in prim only
Oh, damn! :'D
@@MackanRulesily
@@gmaxsteel2547 ily
@@zacharybartlett7677 ily
The worn hero cape only works when super is enabled. 5:21
I love how Mackan Rules can get to round 600 yet doesn’t understand simple concepts (like why he can’t use the hero’s cape)
I'm too lazy to test this right now, but I think that the cape didn't work because you have super monkeys disabled on the challenge, and it doesn't want you to cheese your way into getting super monkeys if the challenge doesn't want it.
This is correct, you also lose the team challenges like Dart/Heli/Mortar if you cape a dart into a Super. The game treats the cape as a super monkey.
Man the near Swedish outburst was fucking gold
Man i wish you wouldve spammed the shooty turrets, ik they dont do much, i just like those buggers
”Men va faaaaa” and ”Men det är inte sant!” Frikin gold 😂
Ahaha glömmer ibland att han ä svensk trots dialekten. Caught me off guard
That "Just like your mom and I" was uncalled for, dude..
I really like this video idea, this was extremely entertaining to watch! I hope you decide to try this with all monkeys (maybe you’ll have to use Etienne for monkeys that can’t see camo)
it's so interesting how someone can have so many hours and miss basic stuff like spots on balance or the worn cape limitation (it becomes very evident when doing oddesseys lol) interesting stuff
6:51 BROOO WHAT 😂😂😂😂
Would be fun to see thus one again with super monkey enabled. I wonder how much further a few transformed darts could get.
Hedge could be a really good map for a mix between the paragon and others
Idk if this is it, but I think you can't use the hero's cape because the super monkey is banned, and you techically need the base tower to even buy its upgrades
I wonder how much farther you could go if you could use the top path village
Not much, given that paragons cannot be buffed (well perhaps boomerang paragon buff for 11.1% attack speed)
I think I'll sample your end of round noises for my ringtone
Haha! Har aldrig hört dig säga så mycket på svenska i en video förut 😂 grym video som alltid:)
Haha tackar!
Yeah jag röstar för mer random uttryck på svenska
its kinda funny that this guy is so good at the game and knows so much but even i knew that the cape doesnt work when super is disabled
A series of this would be cool
I love how it's a dart only challenge on a map with large sight blockers,
and choose not to block geraldo from the track😶
It's dart and heroes
Are you going to try this challenge with other towers?
The Super monkey will need help to start
Yeah i think i will do this with more towers!
I think super should be fine since im going with a hero aswell! :)
you cant use the cape since you dont have super monkeys allowed im pretty sure@@MackanRules
youd just have to use a hero that can be bought at the very start of the game
I’m putting money on ninja or spactory getting the highest
@@Lemoonthelifeenjoyernah Ace fs
Not that it matters, but the blue screen probably happened about our problems on the driver looking at the error code
u should do how far can u get in BTD 5
The hero's cape turns the dart into a super monkey so if Super is banned then the cape is banned too.
ooo large series potential
plasma isn't bad when it's up but its lack of any buff without the ability makes them very extremist.
This looks like very Awesome thing to try! Did not know they changed Paragon upgrade system too!
you cant use the hero's cape because you dont have supermonkey as a playable tower, since supermonkey isn't available, the cape supermonkey isn't either. To avoid this you can just not ban supermonkey, then u can use cape.
is it possible to get dart paragon in chimps on a map that's good for it, like balance or encrypted?
I havent fully watched yet but i WANT the dart monkey to get to atleast 300 cuz he my favorite
could you have continued going if you sold the plasma fan club again? it was doing basically nothing while on cooldown, and selling it would have given your paragon +10% attack speed which might have been enough
you could maybe have squeezed out some extra rounds if you had the PMFC ready to go, and when you encountered the "this is the last round" round, activated the ability and sold it, so you had the darts under its effect alongside the 10% bonus?
That's a great idea, wish i had it! xd
Its nice to understand rage in a foreign language for once lmao
after watching this video 329001 times I can confirm this is indeed a certified MackanRules classic
congrats on watching the video 329001 times in 5 minutes
I'd also allow you to buy 130 villages for future runs so monkeys like wizards monkeys don't lose immediately to purples.
I’m glad your getting a new pc nice
I just finished the vid, great one
Thanks!
Would be interesting to see a video on how far you could go in 4p co-op, with 4x the tier 5s it'd surely be a lot further/more efficient than in solo. Although the co-op lag would make it mega unplayable. Also I bet boat makes it the furthest, since it can actually econ for higher tiers plus the Navarch's hook lets it insta-kill BADS
Co-op would go less far than standard singleplayer easy freeplay simply because the only reason he lost was lag and co-op isn't exactly going to help that. It may help out in chimps tho.
Hedge would probably be the best map as it is the best for the dart paragon and has a lot more space for dart monkeys.
Ive done this challenge too and also got stuck on this round
Keep making these videos man, these are amazing quality
And we taught he wasnt gonna do this anymore and he brings this banger!
Its his job to bring bangers
thought* ☠️
''just like me and your mother last day''
scrolling thru the comment and i found u. the onli person that comment thus far
13:12 i think with Geraldo you can do degree 100, thats would’ve been much better
If you do this as a series you should probably do all the towers that have a paragon first.
I think the cape is blocked because the super monkey it self is blocked!
Kinda funny how close it always is for you not to leak.
Imagine if he used bottom tier 4 village for free dart monkies every round?
Personally i'm pretty sure you might have been able to get 1 more degree if you put down 2 of geraldos totems i think
ERMMMM ACTUALLY🤓👆 GERALDO ATTACKED SO TECHNECLY ITS CLICK BAIT!
“How far can you get with just the alchemist?” 👀👀👀👀
I would've played on hedge because the paragon is great on the map and it's good for other towers too
im pretty sure the best map for dart paragon is hedge, it got the further on one of isab's videos
With an asterisk*
In that challenge he allowed selling and rebuying the paragon (infinite money).
@@TheOrange3Juice it still got further than on his(isab) other tests
17:33 pvz guy jumpscare
You have to have unlocked supermonkey to use cape
You can't use the worn hero's cape if super monkey is not enabled
I'm glad you chose to do this on Balance. Every challenge being on Resort, Cubism and Logs definitely gets monotonous.
Also I feel like for consistnecy, the other towers you do this with should also be locked to Geraldo, even if there's a better hero (like Adora for super monkies)
adora wont work for super monkeys either way, same with geraldo, you cant place those down af the start of the game
@@srensen3081 You just have to be able to place them before you lose, even if you leak a few rounds. I do that a lot in my personal runs; doing the first couple rounds with no towers to save up for the thing I want to place fiirst
Try again but allow supermonkeys but just dont place any so that you could use the worn hero cape from geraldo on the darts
When is "How far can 4 player coop go?"
WHATS GOOD MACKAN
This boutta be fun
Mackan are you gonna allow villages or farms in one of these, i think it would be interesting to see how some of them deal with lead or camo. Also when you do the village you should give yourself enough money to buy a primary expertise instantly
I don't think i will allow using a village or a farm in addition to whatever tower im testing. But yeah i probably will include the village and farm as episodes at the end of the series :)
@@MackanRulesthe farm will get to round 5000 on chimps, thats why it is banned
Bottom crosspath for juggernaut increases projectile lifespan resulting in more bounces which could make this crosspath superior for maps like balance. But further investigation is needed so people please leave a comment if you know if thats true🙏🏻
You cant use the cape bc super monkey is banned
you couldn't use the cape because supermonkeys weren't allowed
you shouldve put geraldo behind the wall so he wasnt getting pops-
i tryed this when i first started playing... i made it to round 92 lol
What about Geraldos Item which highers the damage costing attack speed in the paragon?
you cant buff paragons plus it would nerf it because the paragon does more than 5 damage
You have to have super money to use the kale 😅
Mackan does in fact Rule
17:32 MENMAFF
Ya didnt need buy this many 0-4-2 dart monkey, the ability cooldown dont end that fast.
17:30 classic rng issue
Can you do a video late game where only one shots are used?
If you decide to go for this, you might want to check which towers actually have one shot capacity as there's multiple hidden one-shot towers.
Most oneshots do xtra damage to Bloons around it tho (like great white shark) but I guess it could work as a theme
@metroidfan717 That's the idea. As long as the tower has one-shot capability, it's fair game.
A 0-0-0 dart woulda lasted longer
Why didn't you do it on cornfield?
It's SOOOOOO good for the apax
you can't get a very high degree without removing corn
Actually forgot to even consider it! Would have been a very fun map for this challenge too!
the best map for apex is hedge
You turned on no selling, that's why you can't buy the action figure
you probably should have chosen hedge
Dude you need a therapist for roasting men😂
I thonk ypu cant use the cape because you dont have super monkey avaliable
Immedialy lost the challenge by placing geraldo. lmao
(Could at least have been Quincy, the true dart monkey hero)
You made how far can you go on btd 4 and btd 5 but where is btd 5
1:27 :0
*popular youtuber "MackanRules" has been exposed for swearing and joking about it.*
(this comment is a joke itself)
Where late game content? I miss and *need* it
Do the druid next!
Wait I’m so confused how did u get 2 crossbow masters
Monkey knowledge
hi mackan
Hi
love your videos even though i no longer play bloons @@MackanRules
Change the message on the thumbnail to “nah I’d win”
I will comment for the algorythm 👍👍👍
druid or ninja is for sure going the farthest
ninja because paragon
you can't use the hero's cape because super monkeys are disabled
Can we do this with all towers? :D
Bunnies are not monkeys...
Trueeee
Hi Mackan on your comment about showing us around your house I really suggest you don’t since that’s how recently many yters have been doxxed
Oh don't worry, im just going to film inside the apartment :) But thanks for looking out for me!
Hedge is better than balance for Paragon