DEVIN-- I really wish you had said to Hannah, "With all due respect, if we're lucky, we get to see you one hour a day. The other 23 hours, we are spending time with each other. It is extremely difficult for us to spend our time living with a guy we do not trust. We all trust each other, but none of us trust Luke. It's exhausting and stressful to live with him. We are doing the best we can to make it work, and that's why we're having this conversation. If you were forced to live with Luke and his lies 23 hours a day, you would be nuts too!."
I still feel like that would've backfired because she's so gung-ho about luke at this point. It literally makes no sense but she's obsessed with him for some reason.
It’s not about the guys, it’s about how Hannah feels! The guys are just an insecure bunch of pussys! They are all just jealous of Luke. If she sends him home I’m not watching anymore!
Holy cow Lauren deserves a raise for this interview - “but a facade implies there’s something fake there, what is there about Luke that’s fake?” A+ interviewing, my friend
I think hannah wishes that her first impression of luke p is the real him so badly , she was giving him every single excuse because of him talking about his faith and their physical connection.
@Madison Jones - It's only because she see's herself in him. She's working on her crazy but she empathizes with him because she feels misunderstood herself.
Ah so refreshing. He is very well spoken and mature and you can see he also cared for Hannah. His relationship might not have progressed as fast but he speaks with such respect and care. Also like the fact that he said he gave Luke P the benefit of the doubt for a while. I didn't at all but like that someone in the house was more mature than I would ever have been.
I was cheering for Devin from night one because I thought he was the cutest guy there. I was so happy when he finally was getting screen time and then got sent home. I hope he gets on bachelor in paradise.
This whole episode was so childish. Garrett was super annoying and the guys that threw fire to the fuel did not help at all. I love drama but this was too much. So over it. Be like Caelynn and Hannah, hug it out and get over it. You, men made it all about Luke P. Hannah is way too good for Jed. Tyler C is my pick. He stayed neutral throughout the whole drama. He's definitely the most mature.
Same. She’s too good for Jed. I like Jed.. but Her and Tyler are both educated and both have more in common that works in the real world. Tyler seems ready for a really commitment, Jed was never even there for marriage.
I think Tyler did a great job and Peter also had some good points about getting over it and stop talking about the ordeal, my picks are Tyler or Peter. I do like Mike also:)
Lauren is great, she tries not to be judgmental and she reiterates how the show is edited so we remember we don’t know everything, there’s always more to the story. She always asks great questions. You’re great Lauren.
Hannah is not a grown ass woman, a grown ass woman would had sent Luke's behind home with his bs. And another thing does she not realize that every time she is crying it has something to do with or about Luke.
I totally understand where Devin is coming from - he wanted to trust the woman he could be with in the future but its just so tough when your future SO is making poor judgments. But It is easier for the guys to see how he's really like since they spend more time with him. Hannah herself knows Luke P is flawed though since she points it out in the front of the guys. It's frustrating why she held on for so long
Just had a thought. Remember when Hannah told Colton she didn't see how he could be into Caelynn and her at the same time (or something to that effect)? Hannah was focused on Caelynn for a good while. I thought she sounded too harsh when she told the guys to "stay in their lane." She knows what it's like.
Keras world yap ..she was waiting for him in the airport thinking he will be eliminated but did not show up ...but after the show ...they bummedinto each other and Jed was ‘Cold ‘ to her .. meaning he might have won F1 or F2 ..
I think this should have been a conversation that Luke kept for inside the fantasy suite. I think he meant that if she slept with any of the other "contestants", he would have a hard time accepting that. ..and I agree with that.
LOL this interview did not age well. Jed is not a good guy, people magazine just posted that Jed had a girlfriend at home while he was on the show. He's also engaged to hannah since reality steve got the spoilers wrong. This is not going to go well
yall REALLY need to stop believing everything you read... this is the same man whose "spoilers" have been wrong MULTPLE times and you guys continue to believe his sources are "legit" nah...
@@LovedByYou reality steve has gotten spoilers wrong, but he's never gotten a spoiler wrong after he changed the spoiler for the second time. Like he originally thought Peter was F1 but then switched it to Bryan and he was right.
I get that Hannah is frustrated with the guys' squabbling. But something she doesn't seem to understand - and I haven't seen any of the guys articulate this yet on camera - is that these guys have to deal with Luke ALL the time. And he's lying to them, trying to manipulate them, and generally acting like an a$$ towards them. While there's certainly an element of them not wanting her to choose someone that they don't trust, I think the bigger issue and reason behind the squabbling is the constant need to call him out on his ridiculous lies and other poor behavior. Maybe the high road is to handle it the way Tyler C and Peter are, to observe what's happening, steer clear of him, and let him dig his own grave. But a part of me really appreciates it when people like Mike and Garrett call him out on his $hit. I wish she had sent him home. I turn the sound off every time he speaks b/c I'm so tired of hearing his voice, his narcissism and his ridiculous statements.:)
@@Shayne_T I think he is, short of course I did not say CrossFit I said upper body weight lifters. Steroids are alive and well in Georgia gyms. I look for rage, blank states and skin conditions. Not talking about CrossFit lovers
Funny this interview is released the same time People releases an article about how Jed dated a girl up until filming and said it would all be nothing but acting and things would go back to how they were after the show....
Carmen Kosmicki i noticed that tooo it’s probably a fake out tho! they do that alllll the time in order to trick us 😳🙄 i do loveee mike and peter tho so i would be happy to see one of them in the top 2. hopefully mike will make bachelor if he isn’t last. peter is a sweetheart but i think she prefers a bit of edge a la luke 🙄 i think jed or tyler c will probably win (fingers crossed) sry for the novel lol who are you hoping for?
@@alibaebee7675 yeah I know what you mean cause when I saw the Luke yelling scene I thought he was gonna make it pretty far but now it seems like it coming up. I actually like Peter more than Mike. Mike just isn't passionate enough about her but is giddy lol so idk. And Jed seems to really be her type.
From what was shown, Luke simply said that if Hannah has slept with any of the guys, he would want to go home. He didn’t shame Hannah. Just because Hannah reacted the way she did doesn’t mean Luke was telling her what to do. He said what he would do, and that is his prerogative. I wonder if any guy other than Luke had said this, would he be accused the way Luke is being accused.
Garrett needed to keep his mouth shut too, he annoyed me so much in this episode. He was getting all over Luke for "talking" about other people but that is the only thing Garrett did. Even in his time with Hannah, he was talking about Luke making sure he's keeping his mouth shut. Luke P has his issues, yes, no one is disputing that; the other guys though have such a hard on for talking shit about Luke. Legit hated this mid season "After the Final Rose" episode.
I find it weird that everyone seems shocked about someone coming back from a 1-on-1 without a rose and then surviving the rose ceremony. Like, yeah it’s pretty rare to come back from a 1-on-1 without a rose, but it’s definitely happened on the show before.
Garrett ruined the whole cocktail party. I don’t understand why Devin is being so diplomatic about it. Or is he being honest and he actually just doesn’t get how dirty Garrett did him and how if Garrett hadn’t blown up the whole cocktail party, he might have gotten a chance to connect to connect with Hannah on a deeper level and potentially stay?!
I see Luke a little differently than the popular trend...I think he's so sure of his future with Hannah that he's surprised and confused when she's talking because he's interpreting it as "we're a couple" and she's giving it as "you are one of many"; they are not on the same page and that comes across as Luke being controlling or not self aware. On the sex issue that Lauren and Devin discuss, I didn't see any judgement coming from Luke. Again, Luke is so sure that they are "engaged" and he wants to set boundaries and preserve that pathway with fidelity while Hannah "does the show." But Hannah's reaction clearly shows that she does not think of Luke as her future husband yet because she's offended. Hannah keeps asking the guys to be real with her. It's wrong of her to then be offended with what is offered as "real". She's attracted to Luke, but she doesn't love him. If she loved him, she would want to honor his position, but at this point, she doesn't even understand it. Luke, in the meantime, needs to understand that there is not "the one and only" out there. Fighting for someone sounds romantic and all, but when who you're fighting for is also the one you're fighting with...well, that should earn a second look. I think both of them will be happier in life with partners that they don't have to argue with in order to be understood.
And the reason why the men can not get to know Hannah know anything about you Hannah is because Luke has made this the Luke season show. Right in front of your face and you not knowing that is what he is doing.
Carmen Kosmicki except Luke had just made a big deal telling Garret and everyone he absolutely did not talk about anyone and acted like he really held his integrity with not talking about other guys. Obviously they will be annoyed that he point blank lied again, that’s what HANNAH was missing from the whole argument
Carmen Kosmicki that’s pretty high maintenance imo to expect your SO to not get annoyed by annoying people who lie. She should have higher standards for the shit she’s letting luke get away with and stop taking it out on the other guys
I think that Hannah actually should apologize to the men at The Men Tell All for yelling at them. She brought the drama on herself. She already knows that none of the guys like Luke P and that he is a polarizing figure and yet she chose to play into the drama by asking his opinion on the other guys?! She was actually frustrated that her first crush was not turning out to be a good match for her and she was mad at herself for remaining stuck.
I thought the main star of the Bachelorette is supposed to be Hannah. But wait...oh...that's right...it's now the slimy Luke P Show, since that's all we're forced to see. COME ON!! GET RID of this snake, the liar, immature, dishonest, manipulator. He is making ALL the guys in the house absolutely MISERABLE!! What an awful time for them in Scotland. And NO ONE is drawn to him at all. I wish Hannah & the producers would have barred him from returning to the house that night. Ladies, stay far away from this kind of guy in real life. Nothing but heartache & pain happens when even slightly involved with them.
Omg he is willing to defend Garrett CAUSING Hannah more grief just because everyone hates Luke! This makes me so mad! Luke is obviously an ass...but Make, Garrett and others deliberately did shit to attempt to "own" Luke instead of focusing their time AND conversations on Hannah. It just seems as though their ultimate win wasn't Hannah's heart...it was to get Luke out! That is bullshit! She deserved better than this shit!
And Hannah is not the cause of her own drama, the guys are. Like she said, they don't know there relationship. Yes she probably shouldn't have to teach Like how to act, but the guys should be talking to her about her
Honey, that's NOT a "connection" bt Hannah and Luke P, that's co-dependency and a person who "triggers" you. It's dysfunctional and ADDICTIVE. This is a classic example of when you feel a huge surge of high chemistry, for good and for bad, you need to CUT IT QUICK before you get entangled in a destructive relationship that can EASILY LEAD TO VIOLENCE. And Luke P. IS VIOLENT and shouldn't be with Hannah. Why don't they put PROFESSIONAL THERAPISTS ON THE SHOW? Why do they hire people with no professional background sit for hours on all these post bachelor-ette shows and take in their untrained eyes?
A person's religious convictions are very personal and may be different based on the denomination, personal beliefs and interpretation of God's Word. I think because Hannah's faith played a.role in her journey, Luke believed their core values lined up. Remaining celibate until marriage may not be popular in today's society, but it is a core value in some people's journey with God. I wish it had come up in conversation between Hannah and Luke before now. He would have been gone a lot earlier. Unfortunately, they were too busy making out and trying to gain clarity to have any meaningful conversation.
Luke should not be getting hot and heavy if he wants Hannah to stay pure . That is kinda foolish. Hannah could cool it on smooching hot and heavy with so many guys . You cannot get to know the guys just by getting fleshy .
If we're honest : no man wants his future wife to sleep around. "Accept people's flaws"... "be suportive"... so go ahead and sleep with my friends... no. I think being jealous and protective of your loved one is good. But I guess its 2019 and Luke P didn't get the memo
I think the problem is that he’s probably gonna take it to a next level, or day the she owes him certain things. He comes off to me as someone who may have sexist tendencies and I feel like we’ll see that. Idk, that’s just my thought on it, but I’m not gonna assume anything about him for certain until we see how their break up plays out 🤷♀️
The problem with Luke P is that he expects his future wife to be "pure" and in his beginning promo he said that he had multiple sex partners when he was in college. It's kind of ridiculous that he expects a virgin when he isn't one. Also, it is 2019 and women are allowed to sleep around if they want to, even on this show.
@@mandyvandinther2440 I think he knows she's been with other men. He just doesn't like her to sleep with all her fantasy suite dates. But that's my opinion. She def. Doesn't owe him anything, or any explanation. All I'm saying is when you truly love, you will want that exclusive relationship. Which the show's end goal is, but to reach that contestants have to have a blind eye to what normally you would not accept
He said if she had slept around then she doesn’t want to be with her, and he’d go home. He wants “purity” So that’s a judgment against her and her actions. That’s not love, it’s b.s. because they are just dating on a show, not exclusive.
wait so in the interest of progressivism, a guy (Luke) should be okay with the woman he wants to propose to and who is giving him a chance having sex with other guys just days or weeks before introducing her to his family or proposing lest he be called judgmental?
This isn’t real life, this is the bachelorette. People get engaged after knowing each other for 2 months while one of them dates 29 other people that entire time.
For real! Why can’t Hannah develop a real emotional connection first instead of a mainly physical one? If you’re in love, the physical connection will follow. This whole promiscuous thing is not cool and just shows the lack of self respect she has. Luke P isn’t one to talk about sleeping around because of his past, but if he really is a Christian and she apparently is too, then they should both understand that sexual immorality is not okay and they should respect their religion by waiting until the final rose AT LEAST. Whomever she chooses, I’m sure they wouldn’t appreciate her sleeping around.
Gargee Basak You’re being ridiculous. Hannah portrayed herself as a devout Christian, so it is not unreasonable at all for Luke P to expect her to remain true to her Christian values. Also, telling a woman that if she has slept with other contestants you want to go home is not treating her like property. That is establishing personal boundaries. She is the one getting sarcastic and angry. Also, this just proves to me that Luke P actually loved Hannah because the thought of her having sex with other contestants really hurt him. Anyone who says they are in love but is OK with that person being intimate with other people is a liar.
Ella Affrel Luke P is totally justified to talk about sleeping around with contestants. That’s like saying a smoker who quits smoking can’t tell someone else that smoking is unhealthy because he used to smoke.
I thought the main star of the Bachelorette is supposed to be Hannah. But wait...oh...that's right...it's now the slimy Luke P Show, since that's all we're forced to see. COME ON!! GET RID of this snake, the liar, immature, dishonest, manipulator. He is making ALL the guys in the house absolutely MISERABLE!! What an awful time for them in Scotland. And NO ONE is drawn to him at all. I wish Hannah & the producers would have barred him from returning to the house that night. Ladies, stay far away from this kind of guy in real life. Nothing but heartache & pain happens when even slightly involved with them.
DEVIN-- I really wish you had said to Hannah, "With all due respect, if we're lucky, we get to see you one hour a day. The other 23 hours, we are spending time with each other. It is extremely difficult for us to spend our time living with a guy we do not trust. We all trust each other, but none of us trust Luke. It's exhausting and stressful to live with him. We are doing the best we can to make it work, and that's why we're having this conversation. If you were forced to live with Luke and his lies 23 hours a day, you would be nuts too!."
Absolutely!!! Everything you said ☝🏽
🤔😬
I still feel like that would've backfired because she's so gung-ho about luke at this point. It literally makes no sense but she's obsessed with him for some reason.
It’s not about the guys, it’s about how Hannah feels! The guys are just an insecure bunch of pussys! They are all just jealous of Luke. If she sends him home I’m not watching anymore!
@@peggyh.3486 bye-bye, you will be the only one not watching after Luke P goes
As a side note- Lauren in the best interviewer I've ever seen. She's a pro at navigating the conversation!
Holy cow Lauren deserves a raise for this interview - “but a facade implies there’s something fake there, what is there about Luke that’s fake?” A+ interviewing, my friend
Doesn't Devin just seem like someone you would like to hang out with? Cool and cute.
Also very mature 👌 my gosh what a great conversation
Tali Alba Blue i completely agreee!!
He's hot
i wish we could’ve gotten to know him more! what a smart sweetheart
@@sarayaeuphoria yes! And I don't know if he will be on paradise which is a shame!
@@pollypockets508 I second that
I think hannah wishes that her first impression of luke p is the real him so badly , she was giving him every single excuse because of him talking about his faith and their physical connection.
I think it was just an initial physical attraction. The longer he stays the less attractive he should be to her. I'm hoping that's the case anyway....
@Madison Jones - It's only because she see's herself in him. She's working on her crazy but she empathizes with him because she feels misunderstood herself.
Garrett kept dragging it on , he can go . Every episode is about Luke , he can go too .
This was one of my favorites r&r live interviews!! Such interesting commentary from Devin
Ah so refreshing. He is very well spoken and mature and you can see he also cared for Hannah. His relationship might not have progressed as fast but he speaks with such respect and care. Also like the fact that he said he gave Luke P the benefit of the doubt for a while. I didn't at all but like that someone in the house was more mature than I would ever have been.
Jed was an amazing actor to even lie to his friends about his girlfriend
Nah. Any guy watching this could see right through him, its the women he fooled... Same women who think luke is a bad dude. Js
This episode made me so annoyed. Was it even an episode? felt more like after the rose...
I was cheering for Devin from night one because I thought he was the cutest guy there. I was so happy when he finally was getting screen time and then got sent home. I hope he gets on bachelor in paradise.
Lauren is such a good interviewer
This whole episode was so childish. Garrett was super annoying and the guys that threw fire to the fuel did not help at all. I love drama but this was too much. So over it. Be like Caelynn and Hannah, hug it out and get over it. You, men made it all about Luke P.
Hannah is way too good for Jed. Tyler C is my pick. He stayed neutral throughout the whole drama. He's definitely the most mature.
Same. She’s too good for Jed. I like Jed.. but Her and Tyler are both educated and both have more in common that works in the real world. Tyler seems ready for a really commitment, Jed was never even there for marriage.
@@creyes777 You already said that
I think Tyler did a great job and Peter also had some good points about getting over it and stop talking about the ordeal, my picks are Tyler or Peter. I do like Mike also:)
I really enjoy these recaps with the contestants! It really allows us to learn a little bit more about the guys and they all seem pretty nice so far!
Luke: "Can I interrupt?"
Also Luke: "Can you just let me finish?"
Lauren is great, she tries not to be judgmental and she reiterates how the show is edited so we remember we don’t know everything, there’s always more to the story. She always asks great questions. You’re great Lauren.
Great job Devin! Great interview & insight!
Devin is so nice to look at
Hannah is not a grown ass woman, a grown ass woman would had sent Luke's behind home with his bs. And another thing does she not realize that every time she is crying it has something to do with or about Luke.
I totally understand where Devin is coming from - he wanted to trust the woman he could be with in the future but its just so tough when your future SO is making poor judgments. But It is easier for the guys to see how he's really like since they spend more time with him. Hannah herself knows Luke P is flawed though since she points it out in the front of the guys. It's frustrating why she held on for so long
Dang!... Devin is so handsome 😍😍
He looks Bryan Abasolo a little bit
Better
‘Jed is a genuinely transparent, good guy’. - Devin. *Well this aged well.*
he has a girlfriend and was only on the show to further his career so his Dad could stop paying his rent
Ferne Beaman i think my comment went above your heard hahaha
Lol, I was just writing what I wanted Devin to know and say. Quite a few jerks this season, eh?
These guys are terrible judges of character. Luke P probably did nothing wrong.
Lauren is seriously the best
Just had a thought. Remember when Hannah told Colton she didn't see how he could be into Caelynn and her at the same time (or something to that effect)? Hannah was focused on Caelynn for a good while. I thought she sounded too harsh when she told the guys to "stay in their lane." She knows what it's like.
violethill37 yes!!!
Except...JED HAS A GIRLFRIEND
Keras world yap ..she was waiting for him in the airport thinking he will be eliminated but did not show up ...but after the show ...they bummedinto each other and Jed was ‘Cold ‘ to her .. meaning he might have won F1 or F2 ..
I think this should have been a conversation that Luke kept for inside the fantasy suite. I think he meant that if she slept with any of the other "contestants", he would have a hard time accepting that. ..and I agree with that.
Wow, he was very introspective and forthright.
LOL this interview did not age well. Jed is not a good guy, people magazine just posted that Jed had a girlfriend at home while he was on the show. He's also engaged to hannah since reality steve got the spoilers wrong. This is not going to go well
yall REALLY need to stop believing everything you read... this is the same man whose "spoilers" have been wrong MULTPLE times and you guys continue to believe his sources are "legit" nah...
Steve isn't responsible for the People article.
@@LovedByYou reality steve has gotten spoilers wrong, but he's never gotten a spoiler wrong after he changed the spoiler for the second time. Like he originally thought Peter was F1 but then switched it to Bryan and he was right.
I get that Hannah is frustrated with the guys' squabbling. But something she doesn't seem to understand - and I haven't seen any of the guys articulate this yet on camera - is that these guys have to deal with Luke ALL the time. And he's lying to them, trying to manipulate them, and generally acting like an a$$ towards them. While there's certainly an element of them not wanting her to choose someone that they don't trust, I think the bigger issue and reason behind the squabbling is the constant need to call him out on his ridiculous lies and other poor behavior. Maybe the high road is to handle it the way Tyler C and Peter are, to observe what's happening, steer clear of him, and let him dig his own grave. But a part of me really appreciates it when people like Mike and Garrett call him out on his $hit. I wish she had sent him home. I turn the sound off every time he speaks b/c I'm so tired of hearing his voice, his narcissism and his ridiculous statements.:)
nomadchica Luke P is a genuinely good guy.
LUKE P=ROIDS.
I worked in a gym in Georgia, same irregatic behavior you see in BIG weight lifters, less the back acne
He's not even that big.. there are plenty of women and men who do crossfit and compete, they do not use drugs, and they're big.
Yup. Used to know a bunch of guys like that too.. I can tell from the changes in the face.. and the moodiness and temper
@@Shayne_T I think he is, short of course
I did not say CrossFit
I said upper body weight lifters.
Steroids are alive and well in Georgia gyms. I look for rage, blank states and skin conditions.
Not talking about CrossFit lovers
He is from GAINSville after all. 100% roid rager
Luke P. I think he wants to control her.
He has just decided that she belongs to him and she should fall in with his agenda.
Yep.
No, he is more dedicated to her but he has his own values. In a phrase: he’s a real man.
@@jakepaulpound-for-pound9418: a real man does not have to be a control freak, which is what Luke appears to be.
Devin seems like a cool dude. nice.
Agreed!
Why did they show the whole remaining season in the trailer. Are you kidding
Malavika Rathore you should know by now that’s definitely not the rest of the season
they are known for their fake outs.. don’t fret! 💖
Desperation..... had to pull us back in
Funny this interview is released the same time People releases an article about how Jed dated a girl up until filming and said it would all be nothing but acting and things would go back to how they were after the show....
He almost said “chasing SOME girl” 🤣 he caught himself
This video aged REAL quick
Notice how on the clip for the rest of the show and close to the final rose, they only show Garrett, Peter, and Mike....🧐🧐
Carmen Kosmicki i noticed that tooo it’s probably a fake out tho! they do that alllll the time in order to trick us 😳🙄
i do loveee mike and peter tho so i would be happy to see one of them in the top 2. hopefully mike will make bachelor if he isn’t last. peter is a sweetheart but i think she prefers a bit of edge a la luke 🙄 i think jed or tyler c will probably win (fingers crossed) sry for the novel lol who are you hoping for?
@@alibaebee7675 yeah I know what you mean cause when I saw the Luke yelling scene I thought he was gonna make it pretty far but now it seems like it coming up. I actually like Peter more than Mike. Mike just isn't passionate enough about her but is giddy lol so idk. And Jed seems to really be her type.
“jed is a genuine good guy”
From what was shown, Luke simply said that if Hannah has slept with any of the guys, he would want to go home. He didn’t shame Hannah. Just because Hannah reacted the way she did doesn’t mean Luke was telling her what to do. He said what he would do, and that is his prerogative. I wonder if any guy other than Luke had said this, would he be accused the way Luke is being accused.
Lol @Devin's comment that Jed is transparent!
Garrett needed to keep his mouth shut too, he annoyed me so much in this episode. He was getting all over Luke for "talking" about other people but that is the only thing Garrett did. Even in his time with Hannah, he was talking about Luke making sure he's keeping his mouth shut. Luke P has his issues, yes, no one is disputing that; the other guys though have such a hard on for talking shit about Luke. Legit hated this mid season "After the Final Rose" episode.
I find it weird that everyone seems shocked about someone coming back from a 1-on-1 without a rose and then surviving the rose ceremony. Like, yeah it’s pretty rare to come back from a 1-on-1 without a rose, but it’s definitely happened on the show before.
he's so mature, love him. he has so much experience. that's why he was on my list for why he would be good with hannah. plus he's hot and good looking
Love this interview
Why do the guys seem so much more attractive in interviews than they do on the show?
Jenn Cooke Less producer editing.
Yo Devin is hot
Definitely a looker 🥰
Garrett ruined the whole cocktail party. I don’t understand why Devin is being so diplomatic about it. Or is he being honest and he actually just doesn’t get how dirty Garrett did him and how if Garrett hadn’t blown up the whole cocktail party, he might have gotten a chance to connect to connect with Hannah on a deeper level and potentially stay?!
I agree if Devin didn't take the bait and sat there and drink his drink he may have not been eliminated that night
We need shirts, "Garrett ruined the cocktail party"
I just want to smack the 'crazy' out of Luke P's eyes.
Can't believe Jed had a girlfriend the whole time. He was my favorite.
Tarrengit t Luke P is a better person than Jed.
I see Luke a little differently than the popular trend...I think he's so sure of his future with Hannah that he's surprised and confused when she's talking because he's interpreting it as "we're a couple" and she's giving it as "you are one of many"; they are not on the same page and that comes across as Luke being controlling or not self aware. On the sex issue that Lauren and Devin discuss, I didn't see any judgement coming from Luke. Again, Luke is so sure that they are "engaged" and he wants to set boundaries and preserve that pathway with fidelity while Hannah "does the show." But Hannah's reaction clearly shows that she does not think of Luke as her future husband yet because she's offended. Hannah keeps asking the guys to be real with her. It's wrong of her to then be offended with what is offered as "real". She's attracted to Luke, but she doesn't love him. If she loved him, she would want to honor his position, but at this point, she doesn't even understand it. Luke, in the meantime, needs to understand that there is not "the one and only" out there. Fighting for someone sounds romantic and all, but when who you're fighting for is also the one you're fighting with...well, that should earn a second look. I think both of them will be happier in life with partners that they don't have to argue with in order to be understood.
And the reason why the men can not get to know Hannah know anything about you Hannah is because Luke has made this the Luke season show. Right in front of your face and you not knowing that is what he is doing.
I think Garret took what Luke P. Did personally HANNAH. BROUGHT. IT. UP.
Carmen Kosmicki except Luke had just made a big deal telling Garret and everyone he absolutely did not talk about anyone and acted like he really held his integrity with not talking about other guys. Obviously they will be annoyed that he point blank lied again, that’s what HANNAH was missing from the whole argument
@@Mollycrimey but it isn't for them to decide. She doesn't want her future husband to make another man feel diminished. She wants them to have respect
Carmen Kosmicki that’s pretty high maintenance imo to expect your SO to not get annoyed by annoying people who lie. She should have higher standards for the shit she’s letting luke get away with and stop taking it out on the other guys
Dustin trying to navigate calling Luke a hypocrite was difficult to watch... we all think it!
Luke only plays back what he’s heard others say. He has no thoughts or connections of his own.
I think that Hannah actually should apologize to the men at The Men Tell All for yelling at them. She brought the drama on herself. She already knows that none of the guys like Luke P and that he is a polarizing figure and yet she chose to play into the drama by asking his opinion on the other guys?! She was actually frustrated that her first crush was not turning out to be a good match for her and she was mad at herself for remaining stuck.
I wish they would get rid of Luke P. already. There is something about him that’s not quite right.
I thought the main star of the Bachelorette is supposed to be Hannah. But wait...oh...that's right...it's now the slimy Luke P Show, since that's all we're forced to see. COME ON!! GET RID of this snake, the liar, immature, dishonest, manipulator. He is making ALL the guys in the house absolutely MISERABLE!! What an awful time for them in Scotland. And NO ONE is drawn to him at all. I wish Hannah & the producers would have barred him from returning to the house that night. Ladies, stay far away from this kind of guy in real life. Nothing but heartache & pain happens when even slightly involved with them.
Omg he is willing to defend Garrett CAUSING Hannah more grief just because everyone hates Luke!
This makes me so mad! Luke is obviously an ass...but Make, Garrett and others deliberately did shit to attempt to "own" Luke instead of focusing their time AND conversations on Hannah.
It just seems as though their ultimate win wasn't Hannah's heart...it was to get Luke out! That is bullshit! She deserved better than this shit!
awee hes so cute and sweet
Obviously this was taped a few days ago
And Hannah is not the cause of her own drama, the guys are. Like she said, they don't know there relationship. Yes she probably shouldn't have to teach Like how to act, but the guys should be talking to her about her
Honey, that's NOT a "connection" bt Hannah and Luke P,
that's co-dependency and a person who "triggers" you. It's dysfunctional and ADDICTIVE.
This is a classic example of when you feel a huge surge of high chemistry, for good and for bad, you need to CUT IT QUICK before you get entangled in a destructive relationship that can EASILY LEAD TO VIOLENCE.
And Luke P. IS VIOLENT and shouldn't be with Hannah.
Why don't they put PROFESSIONAL THERAPISTS ON THE SHOW?
Why do they hire people with no professional background sit for hours on all these post bachelor-ette shows and take in their untrained eyes?
Is it me or did he have a difficult time understanding + answering Lauren's questions
Devin is a cutie!
Peter !!!!!!!
I like watching your show
PLEASE do not send Luke to BIP
A person's religious convictions are very personal and may be different based on the denomination, personal beliefs and interpretation of God's Word. I think because Hannah's faith played a.role in her journey, Luke believed their core values lined up. Remaining celibate until marriage may not be popular in today's society, but it is a core value in some people's journey with God. I wish it had come up in conversation between Hannah and Luke before now. He would have been gone a lot earlier. Unfortunately, they were too busy making out and trying to gain clarity to have any meaningful conversation.
Anybody that things jet will go home next week 👍
Devin is wrong Jed doesn't love Hannah
The guys call Luke names because they know Hannah's mind is on him
Women needs active men
Luke's got it
Stop spoiling Luke please
Mary Naju - Seriously, how can you not see how crazy Luke P is? Would you want a grown man that flat out lies and manipulates to get what he wants?
NaturalNikkiSmile what was the lies all about
Love doesn't hide
Love is all over Luke
I m looking for that kind of love pls
Flippy Floppy Doushey Tendencies 😂
I like Luke more than I like Hannah. I dont know what this means but I really don't jive with her.
Luke should not be getting hot and heavy if he wants Hannah to stay pure . That is kinda foolish. Hannah could cool it on smooching hot and heavy with so many guys . You cannot get to know the guys just by getting fleshy .
The fake background is sooo distracting :(
This guy is getting on my nerves. Please leave.
If we're honest : no man wants his future wife to sleep around. "Accept people's flaws"... "be suportive"... so go ahead and sleep with my friends... no.
I think being jealous and protective of your loved one is good. But I guess its 2019 and Luke P didn't get the memo
I think the problem is that he’s probably gonna take it to a next level, or day the she owes him certain things. He comes off to me as someone who may have sexist tendencies and I feel like we’ll see that. Idk, that’s just my thought on it, but I’m not gonna assume anything about him for certain until we see how their break up plays out 🤷♀️
The problem with Luke P is that he expects his future wife to be "pure" and in his beginning promo he said that he had multiple sex partners when he was in college. It's kind of ridiculous that he expects a virgin when he isn't one. Also, it is 2019 and women are allowed to sleep around if they want to, even on this show.
@@mandyvandinther2440 I think he knows she's been with other men. He just doesn't like her to sleep with all her fantasy suite dates. But that's my opinion.
She def. Doesn't owe him anything, or any explanation. All I'm saying is when you truly love, you will want that exclusive relationship. Which the show's end goal is, but to reach that contestants have to have a blind eye to what normally you would not accept
Jed has a girlfriend doe.....
Devin who??
worst.
episode.
He didn't judge her he asked if she slept around wth
True 4 The Luke P hate is going overboard. I genuinely believe Luke P is a good man.
He said if she had slept around
then she doesn’t want to be with her, and he’d go home. He wants “purity”
So that’s a judgment against her and her actions. That’s not love, it’s b.s. because they are just dating on a show, not exclusive.
wait so in the interest of progressivism, a guy (Luke) should be okay with the woman he wants to propose to and who is giving him a chance having sex with other guys just days or weeks before introducing her to his family or proposing lest he be called judgmental?
jidf32 Yes. It’s insanity.
This isn’t real life, this is the bachelorette. People get engaged after knowing each other for 2 months while one of them dates 29 other people that entire time.
it's okay not wanting your wife to sleep around
@Gargee Basak YAS👏🏼
@Gargee Basak Yes, she's not even his girlfriend at this point 😂
For real! Why can’t Hannah develop a real emotional connection first instead of a mainly physical one? If you’re in love, the physical connection will follow. This whole promiscuous thing is not cool and just shows the lack of self respect she has. Luke P isn’t one to talk about sleeping around because of his past, but if he really is a Christian and she apparently is too, then they should both understand that sexual immorality is not okay and they should respect their religion by waiting until the final rose AT LEAST. Whomever she chooses, I’m sure they wouldn’t appreciate her sleeping around.
Gargee Basak You’re being ridiculous. Hannah portrayed herself as a devout Christian, so it is not unreasonable at all for Luke P to expect her to remain true to her Christian values.
Also, telling a woman that if she has slept with other contestants you want to go home is not treating her like property. That is establishing personal boundaries. She is the one getting sarcastic and angry.
Also, this just proves to me that Luke P actually loved Hannah because the thought of her having sex with other contestants really hurt him. Anyone who says they are in love but is OK with that person being intimate with other people is a liar.
Ella Affrel Luke P is totally justified to talk about sleeping around with contestants. That’s like saying a smoker who quits smoking can’t tell someone else that smoking is unhealthy because he used to smoke.
Hes annoying....
I thought the main star of the Bachelorette is supposed to be Hannah. But wait...oh...that's right...it's now the slimy Luke P Show, since that's all we're forced to see. COME ON!! GET RID of this snake, the liar, immature, dishonest, manipulator. He is making ALL the guys in the house absolutely MISERABLE!! What an awful time for them in Scotland. And NO ONE is drawn to him at all. I wish Hannah & the producers would have barred him from returning to the house that night. Ladies, stay far away from this kind of guy in real life. Nothing but heartache & pain happens when even slightly involved with them.