News- Review of YouTuber Police Report & Stalking Court Order
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Aviation UA-camr Dan Gryder was mentioned in the NTSB report on the fatal accident of a Cessna 208B in Heyburn, ID. Gryder trespassed on the site of the plant where the pilot had hit a tower, and took the light that was on top of the tower. He recorded himself doing both the criminal trespassing and the theft, telling his audience in his video that he brought the light back with him to Atlanta. In addition, Gryder has had a Protective Order placed against him in the case of a woman who complained of stalking in Louisiana. Gryder appealed all the way to the state supreme court, but his appeals have been denied.
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Interfering with an ongoing FAA/NTSB investigation like this is inexcusable. The light and its condition was vital to the investigation and will also be a major part of ongoing litigation.
Doing stupid, illegal, childish stunts like this represents the worst of Social Media. Jb.
@@user-og1dj4qk3pmature and thoughtful response.
Hmmm, didn’t expect you to get yourself involved in this spat Juan. Disappointed!
Come on Juan, don't take the side of big government
He went there after the NTS being investigated and they didn't take that because they're incompetent and missed it
NTSB report states he removed it before they were done.
I'm not sure if Dan removed that light...but regardless, his visit to the crash scene was after the FAA and NTSB concluded their onsite investigation and after the tower/steam stack had been dismantled. If there's anyone to blame for the light not being scrutinized as part of this investigation...it's the NTSB.
And even if they really wanted that light, couldn't they have just written a federal warrant to get it from Dan's house?
"I brought the light with me"
His video, version 3, "I didnt bring the light with me, but i had it sent to a safe place".
story changes with every change of underwear . . .
After reading the NTSB report, there is more here that is not being discussed… The stacks in question are directly in line of the runway approach, improperly marked, and interfere with the standard three (3) degree glide slope. They appeared on the scene six (6) years before the crash but long after the airport was constructed. To make matters worse, they were extended further (higher) because they also violated EPA requirements.
There is no discussion in the NTSB report of how the stacks came to be or why the FAA didn’t do more to get them installed properly. But there is some additional stench here… This is a municipal airport that I suspect is more than a little bit reluctant to tell the significant tax payer potato plant to cease and desist and do something appropriate with their exhaust stacks. On top of that, this is the only runway that has a published RNAV approach and it has significant obstructions in the way. What is the FAA thinking? The bottom line is that this appears to be an accident that was waiting to happen.
I see you have not read the final report.
@@skyboy1956 I've not read every word. But my review so far caused me to post the message. Particularly interesting is the photo from the police department showing the final to runway 20. Most of the comments come directly from this report.
@@tgmct probable cause of the accident was: "The pilot’s failure to maintain altitude during an instrument approach, which resulted in a descent below the approach path and impact with a vent stack."
Might want to rethink your message.
Did you get all of your info from DG?
@tgmct What is the point of your post? This UA-cam video has nothing to do with the accident. It has everything to do with the lack of credibility of a UA-camr who presents himself as having some kind of credible opinion on that subject. There is no reason to believe his videos. He has proven it himself. He may say some true things; but, having proved himself lacking credibility, there is no reason to believe what he posts.
Who knew there would be a pissing match between aviation youtube channels. How about we focus on "how to not die in your airplane" and interesting aviation news? How about dat?
So channels covering the legal issues of Trevor Jacobs or Trent Palmer are looking at "interesting aviation news" but channels covering Dan Gryder are having a "pissing match"? Aside from not using that term in the right context, you seem to conveniently ignore that Gryder was specifically mentioned in the NTSB report for actions that he'd filmed himself doing & posted on UA-cam. I suppose you think going through Jacob's NTSB reports and discussing his sentencing was a "pissing match" too? An aviation UA-camr took it upon himself to interfere with an _in-progress_ fatal crash investigation for content.... sounds an awful lot like "interesting aviation news" to me, regardless of who that UA-camr is.
How about Gryder stops being a weirdo and disappears from the public eye from now on?
No no drama is much easier to monetize.
This reminds me of women in a hair salon, gossiping about crap. This dude is getting paid to talk shit about someone.... not cool.
@@alexprice8399 Millican can not be getting paid much... he only has 100,000 subs!
RIP Brittney.
Unsubbed from Gryder a long time ago - When he started out he actually had pilot safety videos that made sense. Then (in my opinion) he became an ambulance chaser, with some really wild theories about crashes and no real evidence to back up his sometimes insane speculation and slights against other pilots.
I will say that his acolytes are ravenous and believe his every word - he can do no wrong in their eyes.
Maybe his next career step is US politics? I unsubbed a lot time ago, too. I have a radio friend that is also a pilot who says he met Gryder a couple times. His reponse when I asked him about Gryder was: "Well...." That was it. Looking forward to the old cookbook show on Sunday....
@glenandfriendscooking you look like someone who got at least 3 jabs, no wonder you don't like someone like Gryder and call his work "wild theories without any evidence".
@@micham8278 I rest my case...🤣
@micham8278 except they ARE wild theories.
@@micham8278Just out of curiosity, did you see the videos about the crash at the Flying Oaks? If need be, I think I can find the transcript so you can see how bad it was.
Is it bad that I knew it would probably be Gryder just from the title?
I knew from a mile away it wouldn't be BrYan Turner.... I'm pretty sure he's not a thief.... as for the stalking...... ;)
Hahaha don’t worry, I was thinking the EXACT same thing
Yup, knew as soon as I saw the title
Well done Sherlock. Have another junior mint.
I figured it was Gryder as well.
Clickbait mainstream media like behaviour, Dan keep your personal vendetta against Gryder to yourself please. Keep this aviation channel on topic.
How could it qualify as a personal vendetta when Gryder's activities seriously contaminate an area of important public interest (aviation safety)? Gryder is manipulative and deceptive. Why should he have freedom to misinform and harm people? Defamation is harm. Stalking is harm. Misinformation about safety is harmful.
@@kevinhornbuckle to seriously try and say Gryder spreads "misinformation about safety" is beyond wild to me. I think there are safer GA pilots out there because of him.
Well said
@@petsmith7772 I am a professional aviator and I will seriously say that DG spreads misinformation about aviation safety.
Dan Millican had an incident taking off on a gyrocopter and Dan Gryder put him down a lot for"big pilot error". Dan gryder just wanted to put down another youtuber with more views than him. He loves to do that to many. Payback time now.. LOL..
This feels like highschool - petty theft, petty accusations, and restraining orders.
most of the public has been reduced to an infantile mentality...which anyone can observe by looking at the world around them, case and point...grown adults, citizens and business owners hounding other aduots like schoolchildren to wear masks in public...pretty sad, like scared little children....quite pathetic actually ..
I’m confused as to what part of an actual court case and a man filming himself committing a crime is “high school?”
I don’t think the 3 of you have any clue what’s actually going on here
I didn't know anybody in high school with 4 restraining orders.
@@lukycharms9970 Most of my highschool memories were of doing illegal things and I made a lot of videos.
I see Gryder doing a lot more comprehensive videos related to pure operational safety than I’ve ever seen from this channel. I think this Dan here is still bent out of shape over gryders video of Milligan lying about his mini helicopter crash
DG has never done anything comprehensive.
Milligan claims he's never new Dan made a video about his accident. I think Mr. Gryder is not the only person not being honest.
I’m not sure why you feel compelled to make psychiatric descriptions. This is embarrassing.
Is this guy trying to cause Dan to lose some of his Delta benefits? It sounds like he is directly trying to make a (UA-cam) record of alleged inappropriate behavior. I'm sure he probably already called Delta and is trying to do what he can to cause Dan a headache. By making this video, This guy looks like a schmuck. I predict he will take this video down soon.
Narcissists do not go to the doctor and get a diagnosis. They deceive people around them so that they can get away with their aggressive (and often illegal) activities. Gryder meets the criteria for narcissistic personality disorder. Collection of such evidence has to be done without the cooperation of the individual because they are secretive and habitually lie. Yes, I am qualified to diagnose psychiatric disorders, although I am retired from that profession. The info in this video is basically correct and applicable to Gryder.
@@markb2255 I've had enough of this guy.
@@markb2255At least nail Dan with some convictions first and THEN have Delta crap all over him.
@@robertgaudet7407You people are flipping sociopaths man. The dude lost his wife to cancer and is trying to make aviation safer where the FAA and NTSB fall horribly short. The NTSB and FAA are pathetic at issuing meaningful timely reports and issuing recommendations for GA. GA is very much neglected and the fatality rate is showing it. Blancolirio, Scott Perdue, and Dan have all recognized and even worked together to try supplement and improve the situation.
Not really sure how this is "aviation" news other than you have a bone to pick. I think aviation would be better served if all the drama between youtubers just stopped, instead of stooping down to the same level move on and report on actual Aviation news instead of tabloid news. You are doing a disservice to your channel and your viewers by continuing the drama.
Hi Chad, what about any female student pilots? Would the Judgment in the Court of Appeals stalking case maybe make a difference to them? It certainly would have been a lot easier for me to be silent on this news.
@@TakingOff That's for the courts to decide. I am no fan of Dan but all of this stuff is in bad taste and makes the Aviation community look bad. I understand you don't like Dan because of what he has said about you in the past but why risk the channel you have built to continue to try to get back at him? I mean just look at the comments in this video.
who cares if I like or dislike the guy? What I presented were police reports and court judgments. Known as news. You’re right it’s for the courts to decide, and that’s what I reported on. The courts deciding. And this court decision is beneficial for people in our aviation community.
@@TakingOff It's your channel do what you want to with it. I am offering my opinion to you as a viewer. I am not interested in drama and that's all this is. It's not aviation news.
This is aviation news. Dan Gryder is, unfortunately, a well known figure in the aviation community. This is something that I believe the community, especially the people that follow him, need to know. Was it drama when Trevor Jacob's adventures were reported upon or was that the news? Why is it so with Dan Gryder? Because he said mean things about this channel? Should he dissociate from anything involving Gryder because it would be "drama"?
It would be nice if the two Dans could just stop trying to drag each other through the mud and just go their separate ways. This feuding back and forth really doesn’t help aviation in any way.
Dan G has said some pretty inflammatory things about Dan M in the past and Dan M has a business relationship with the same Charles Cook that was referred to in the lawsuit with a judgment against Dan G. So I feel that neither Dan can be trusted to tell the truth about the other without interjecting their personal bias at this point, but I’ll freely admit that Dan G has my vote for most likely to end up in jail.
Seems like a fairly balanced take to me.
I replied to a comment on Dan G's video that I was considering going to the court to get the judgement transcripts since someone implied that it wasn't justified.
Dan G replied to my comment "I can send them to you"
I stated "that woukd be easier than the other option". He didn't reply.
I pimped him with a "Hello"
He then said he knew my name, address, email, and where I kept my plane. He put my full address in the comment. In other words, he Doxxed me.
I asked why he was inclined to do that, and he deleted the entire conversation EXCEPT the "I can just send it to you".
What a dirtbag.
if CC won a million dollar judgement, why hasn't it been awarded? I have heard nothing about it actually being paid.
DG’s worst enemy is DG. Anything coming is earned.
Some things to think about:
1. Would anyone be talking about the light if Dan hadn't taken/pretended to take it?
2. If it was actually crucial to the investigation, doesn't it seem like law enforcement and the NTSB didn't try very hard to get to the bottom of it or to retrieve the evidence?
3. Dan shits on the NTSB every chance he gets. Is it possible they are exaggerating the impact of his stunt by mentioning it in their final report? Seems like a weird way to put it, especially with such little effort on their part to legally address it if in fact they had cause. Almost seems like they thought they could finally hit back but why be petty instead of using their actual authority?
I don't care about Dan one way or the other but all of this is a bit weird to me. I get red herring vibes.
Dan is has had questionable integrity for quite some time. Long before his UA-cam criticisms of the NTSB.
Something else to think about:
1. Why tf would you defend this guy
@@Rosstafari Learn to read. I am not defending him. The NTSB basically said Dan Gryder bested us and we couldn't do anything about it. Does that make sense to you? Not that I expect you to be able to understand that question either since you demonstrated your lack of reading comprehension already.
@@tomcoryell My comment isn't really about Dan. It's about how the federal gov't, with all their power, got out maneuvered by him.
@@craigmcallister2310 Learn to read? Like read the NTSB report? Or the docket? Where it describes how he trespassed and stole the light, which law enforcement discussed and ultimately declined to prosecute due to the statute of limitations? The reading you didn't do? That kind of reading?
The guy went to an active investigation and stole something. You're defending him and making up conspiracy theories to justify it. That's nuts. Full stop. There's no debate to be had here.
Dan I have in the passed watched some of your clips but stay out of this it has nothing to do with you. Are you now the aviation police. You have never forgiven Dan about him rubbishing you on your gyro crash. Yes you also screwed up. Back off I have lost respect for you you sound like a politician.
Dan Gryder has created his own problems. Millican is just covering aviation topics.
Now, DG has to sell his DC-3 to pay his lawyers. He is running out of money.
I understand that there may be some unresolved tension between you and Dan Gryder due to his public criticisms of your piloting abilities. It seems that this video, like the previous one, could be interpreted as a response to Gryder's remarks. Given this personal conflict, it might not be appropriate to use your platform to address this issue. I would recommend considering a more neutral approach in the future to maintain professionalism and integrity.
I have no idea what he said about me. Nor do I care. People and pilots I actually respect are fine with my flying abilities.
👍✅I found this a very objective and fact based report with some personal opinions and comments at the end by D. Millican.
Gryder has some serious psychological issues. Have no knowledge about a riff between these two and don't care. I appreciate the info coming out. Was going to say helps to know who is full of BS on youtube but if you watch Gryder's videos, it's obvious that guys is just off.
Give it a rest
The fact that it took going to the Louisiana Supreme Court for a woman to get protection from Gryder’s stalking behavior is absolutely ridiculous. But I’m glad she has an intact order of protection.
Great video Mr. Millican. Thank you for digging in with details.
End of the video "I'll send the light back" huh I thought he told the police he examined the light but didn't take it with him?
The light is in the protective custody where the corrupt Burney city counsel or Burney Police can't get it. The city and that potato company is facing a massive lawsuit.
@@CaptainRon1913you can’t take evidence and claim you are safeguarding it. There needs to be a valid chain of custody.
@@CaptainRon1913 this is the equivalent of removing a weapon from a crime scene. Stop covering for this idiot.
@@CaptainRon1913 who is Burney?
@@skyboy1956burley Idaho
I don't really understand all the hate in the comments for Taking Off. Dan Gryder has always been a hack and a wacko. Performing DIY accident "investigations", hurling wild accusations at innocent people, prefessing completely insane conspiracy conclusions on his "investigations". While possibly a little sensationalized, nothing on this video reads as accusatory or independently conclusionary. Just a recounting of the facts. To anyone saying that Gryder's legal troubles have nothing to do with aviation, he's a public figure and representing himself as someone with credibility, therefor his credibility is absolutely open for scrutiny. These kinds of legal toubles don't exist in a vacuum, and everyone who watches his content should be free to scrutinize his credibility in any publicly available way they feel is appropriate.
@@dennisnbrown I truly don't have the faintest idea what political affiliation has to do with Dan Gryder being a hack. But if it calms your sensitive nerves, I'll state for the record I voted for Trump twice, and likely will again. That being said, let's not perpetuate the now VERY tired expectation that just because someone disagrees with us on one issue, it means they're somehow wrong about everything. Let's raise the IQ of the whole room a little, shall we?
@@dennisnbrown No he is not...he is full of shit...I have watched a few of his videos, and he totally misses the plot each time...he does absolutely nothing for the aviation community except feed his own ego and confuse people who don't know any better...
@dennisnbrown 11 blancilirio is doing lots of important things. A self made investigation with half of the evidence and no ways to inspect everything. Aviation needs facts, accurate facts, not assumptions and beliefs. Juan explains the facts, Dan produces what he thinks are facts and publishes them as facts. Some of what he says are facts but not everything
I really respected Gryder when he was beating the drum about AQP and appeared focused on safety.
Then I saw him get weird about certain people, and get more paranoid.
Not sure if he was always troubled and I just took a while to notice, or something went wrong there. Aviation needs more people like the Gryder I saw a few years ago. And fewer like the Gryder we see niw.
Dan will get himself in trouble all on his own. This flavor of trash talk video diminishes you and your brand.
Agree.
Be careful here not to step on 1st Amendment: without this video those watching Dan's videos only would probably be mislead by some if not all in his ligitimacy. He's not and therefore he should not be allowed to produce videos WITHOUT this production to present the other (and in this case the most truthful) side of reason. We need this folks!
When you're in a profession it's important to call out your peers if they are doing things that undermine both their own credibility _and_ the profession. While I think the bit about malignant narcissism was a little heavy-handed, I can appreciate that this Dan has far more knowledge about Dan Gryder than we do & is trying to communicate his concerns without creating drama. Documenting legal cases isn't "trash talking" - those are all public record. If you expect the FAA and the NTSB to listen to aviation YT creators they need to show integrity - calling out your peers, _especially_ when they are proclaiming themselves to be "truth-seekers" is important.
Agreed bringing up some woman Dan is chasing around who cares.
@@Mike-01234 He wasn't "just chasing her around" mate, she got a protection order for someone who isn't a spouse or relative... contrary to popular belief, those are not easy to get. The reason it was relevant to bring up is that Gryder displayed the same behaviour in that legal case as he has with this one. If they _didn't_ give you an example for comparison in this video you'd probably just say "oh, well, that case was a once-off." Think about it.
I don’t follow Gryder anymore and maybe he should be ignored but your insistence on bothering to post these videos is painting a bad image of you my friend. I know he posted some negative news on you. The mature thing would have been to ignore it. You’re shooting yourself in the foot.
I could not agree more with this comment. Dan you post some great content but on this occasion I question your judgement in posting this video. Suggest you find some other advisors.
The government is a two tiered affair now and the NTSB is totally incompetent. That much is clear. Whenever anyone tries to expose the swamp creature and incompetence of agencies they get attacked. Some useful idiots fall right in line and assist in the government's efforts to obfuscate, cover and hide the truth of their incompetence. It is sad but it just that is the nature of creeping socialism. Freedom is not allowed now. I can find debris (evidence) lying around on the ground at every single crash site there ever was even as far back a WW2 training crashes. That is debris and not evidence. There may be 2 Dans involved in this chapter, but which one deserves the most criticism?
I'd say your opinion is definitely in the minority. Most savor seeing Gryder getting into more trouble from his stupidity
Dan Gryder is a stain on aviation that unfortunately can't be ignored.
@jamson comment very much agreed! The video started with the "facts" which was somewhat above the fray until they weren't by the end with a top off by going down a psychological analysis rabbit hole - tit for tat it seems and decidedly immature. Gryder wants what you just offered up but hates when he is ignored. So ignore him. Stay on course with the good aviation stuff. It is the reason we enjoy your videos.
Most of us understand you have a personal BEEF with Gryder. Going after him publicly diminishes your credibility.
Gryder is a threat to the public. He is a habitual liar and attention seeker. His psychological problems contaminate important public discourse about the prevention of aviation disasters. Narcissists want people to believe than anyone who has a problem with them is purely motivated by "personal beef" (aka vendetta). The only way the public can obtain any protection from dangerous people like Gryder is to be told about them. People who are dangerous do not have a right to privacy about that dangerousness.
Thank you Kevin. And if my lips are supposed to be sealed simply because he attacked me, then the list of people who can say something is getting smaller all the time. If it diminishes my creds, so be it. As Kevin put it "The only way the public can obtain any protection from dangerous people like Gryder is to be told about them."
@@TakingOff Dan your video needs to be seen!! Good Job. Thank you for bringing this to the aviation and You Tube community.
So going after a politician…etc… I don’t like diminishes my credibility? Saying crap like that diminishes yours!
@@georgeglass1748Then stop watching, i.q. 12.
What a surprise. Assumed it had to be him long before his name was mentioned.
Because you saw his picture in the thumbnail? Wow you probably earned a high degree in college
@@AirJockey100You certainly didn't.
Dan, everything up until 7:00 was good and unbiased, but everything after it (until 13:00) was unprofessional.
No it wasn't unprofessional. It's just part of the entire scope of Dan Gryder and is highly relevant.
@@nineteenfrankie Doesn't make anything Dan M said about Dan G untrue. The evidence about Gryder is widely known via legal documents. Lets not forget that Gryder also has wrecked or bent metal on at least 2 airplanes.
@@andyfpt stuck flaps at an ungodly 40 degrees on a 152 and an old Lockheed 12 mechanical failure hardly means he's out there accidentally bending aircraft aluminum
Slow day in the aviation news today??.....this video is pointless. If you dont like the Dan guy just go face to face with the guy. Appears this is another episode of "Days of our lives"
I’ve confronted him on the JAL comment which turned out to be completely false, he won’t answer.
Yeah, boundry issues accross the board
Don’t be so eager to pounce on your foes. I declare you guys are both like children. Making videos talking about each other and so on. Is that really what you want your children and grandchildren to know you for?
Junior High School "mean Girls" club gossip video.
WOW! Gryder hit piece. Labeling him as "EVIL".
I didn't know anybody in Junior High with 4 restraining orders.
A bee hive of contention for sure. Any comments of any kind are certain to elicit a stinging rebuke from those protecting their hive.
Don’t like his method but damn he does have a point. What on earth was that stack doing there protruding into the glide path. In 35 years as a professional pilot I’ve never seen such a negligent and cavalier attitude towards airport and approach design. The FAA are obviously embarrassed that they’ve been caught with their pants around their ankles. That light would never have been examined. It had been lying outside for months if not years. Let’s be honest.
If the pilot hadn't been well under the published altitude, there would have been no collision hazard.
The pilot was exactly on glide according to the final report. Problems started after she entered the steam cloud emitted by the SIX stacks less than one hundred feet below the published glide. There is no “there would have been no collision hazard”. She was purely a victim of other’s negligence.
He actually doesn’t have a point. The FAA isn’t embarrassed about anything DG has said or done.
Perhaps not- perhaps they couldn’t care less. They allowed the stack to remain there after warning the responsible parties that it contravened “every rule in the book”. For sure it’s not a good look for them. Remember it’s easy (and also lazy) to simply blame the pilot. Sometimes attention must be drawn to the other factors that led up to a tragedy. Let’s not shoot the messenger. The end goal is to try to prevent this from happening again. Just one guys opinion. I’ve only been in this game 35 years so please forgive my misguided ramblings if you do not agree.
@@skyboy1956 Watch blancolirio's video. It shows she was exactly on the glide path and was likely disrupted by the steam from the stacks. Which in best case were only 98 feet below the glide path which is not "well under" in my book.
To you UA-camrs, is it not possible for you guys to stop acting like children and focus on airplanes, flying, training, & safety instead slinging mud. Millican, your so called "reporting" on Gryders social life is disgusting, stop acting like a high schooler and act like a professional aviator if you desire to be seen as one. If you guys want to be respected, don't get down in the mud.
How in the world does this video help aviation and pilot safety?!! Why would you discuss his personal legal issues concerning restraining orders? It does NOT make us better pilots, it makes you look like a tabloid writer. There is no doubt you are on the defense after he mentioned you in a video. We all know you watched it. Again, this does NOT help you or your fellow aviators and only hurts your credibility as a “You Tuber.” Good day.
You obviously aren't a DTSB subscriber. Dan gets personal frequently.
he says all this like Mr. Rogers in the creepiest voice! lol
@@oscarb9139 I am, actually.
@@oscarb9139 I am. Please fix your grammar so we can understand you.
@@codygauger7569 My apologies. Autocorrect is my nemesis.
You two should quit hammering each other. Unprofessional on both sides. Bury the hatchet.
"I come to bury the hatchet"
"no, no boy, not in your pointed head!" - Foghorn Leghorn
It’s not a feud, DG is just a despicable person and nobody should pay any attention to anything he has to say about anything.
So you've decided to change directions and steer Taking Off in the direction of becoming another crappy tabloid type channel, eh, Dan? That's a bummer deal, as I have enjoyed sharing with you and Christy W. my views and likes. I'm definitely not a fan of tabloid BS though. Just sayin.
Sounds like a case of “show me the man and I’ll tell you the crime.” This seems petty actions by the government to show their might because Dan embarrasses them regularly.
DG only embarrasses himself and only the Fanbois are fooled into thinking otherwise.
DG has never embarrassed anyone but himself.
I remember Dan was not nice about this guys skills. Maybe that's the reason he was enjoying doing this video. I don't buy how he's concerned about the families. It obvious he was enjoying telling one side of the story.
Dan Millican had an incident taking off on a gyrocopter and Dan Gryder put him down a lot for"big pilot error". Dan gryder just wanted to put down another youtuber with more views than him. He loves to do that to many. Payback time now.. LOL..
@@user-lq7hf1ww3k Well was it big pilot error? Big pilot error begets big criticism does it not? Criticizing someone for their mistakes allegedly too harshly in your opinion is totally different than taking pleasure in someones troubles like some psychopath would do, which is what millican is doing. Heck, Mentor Pilot posted a video with AI generated thumbnail showing a captain angrily shouting and being violent with the first officer before a crash. I combed through the real report and found no mention of violence, anger, aggression, or angrily shouting. In fact the opposite. Pure slander of a dead captain and people eat it up. Just stop with the drama already.
Edit: And to be clear, I am no big fan of all of dans takes or how he does all of it. But he is entitled to his opinion and sharing opinion isn't a crime despite how much people would like it to be. McMillan appears to be deliberately misleading by leaving out info regarding dan's dc3 dismissed case. Flashing his mugshot and falsely saying dan assaulted someone. Which dan didn't and the judge cleared dan of. Milican could find himself getting sued by dan for his false statements about dan too if he isn't careful. Its okay to be honestly wrong. And dan was clearly honestly wrong because of people feeding him bad info, millican seems to be willfully ignorant at best, if not deliberately misleading. You don't have to watch Dan's video if you don't like them, I stopped awhile ago.
I am not defending Dan, but I do think he makes some very good content relating to AQP and the failures of the NTSB (who should have already visited the site where the light was situate) their ineptitude is alarming but overlooked here. He is usually fairly accurate and takes the time to visit the accident scene which nobody else does (apparently for free, i.e. no sponsors etc). This video is way off topic for Taking Off and I am furious at how sly they are being by releasing a video just to tell everyone about Dans problems in a very one sided, self serving way. You should be ashamed!!!
there is no such thing as AQP for general aviation. Nor will there ever be.
@skyboy & therein lies the problem…..
AQP can be a list of needed maneuvers. Or a list of unneeded. Depends on who made the AQP. The AQP Dan Gryder promotes dont include EFATO maneuvering, accelerated stalls, Windy GRM or low go arounds. Those maneuvers cause most accidents when done wrong. CFI's that cannot teach them make an AQP without them. A Mild Maneuvering AQP only. A BS AQP.
@South34degrees You don't understand what AQP is. Danny is selling a product that doesn't exist, and cannot.
Would you like to know why?
@@skyboy1956 You are scared of EFATO and low go arounds with full flap practice. and they are on AQP Dan Gryder list. Chickens cant fly well.
The fact that Dan called the pilot's family out of the blue, as if he's some official investigator, is incredibly messed up. Especially when the information he gave ranged from misinterpretation to outright lies. It's disgusting behavior.
Dan needs to be sent to prison for a bit so he can maybe comprehend consequences of his actions. 😒
Thats why they wrote him a lovely letter saying thank you.
@@danzydan2479 Okay but you're missing the point... Did you read the second sentence??
Just curious what kicked off the hate for Gryder?
So, some time back, I remember Gryder posting a video pointing out this guy's pilot mistakes, like having a prop strike and not inspecting the engine, etc. Seems like it went bad after that.
Because he is a know it all D-Bag who is typically wrong more than he is right...
@@jphutube oh no, Mr G has done plenty of self owns to warrant videos. Watch him critically and you'll see it too.
Gryder started out with a good cause, but he worries more about being first or loudest rather than accurate. Do as I say, not as I do.
He is a blowhard. He doesn't exercise due diligence when he talks negatively about pilots. Almost every crash is the "classic stall spin". Experienced aviators know he is a tool.
Dan Gryder is controversial. That is not even questionable. He emphasized the importance of not dying in a stall spin accident. What in the hell has DM contributed? Not much.
His fans here seem to think AQP for general aviation is a bad idea but they’re short on reasons why. Mostly just that ‘it’s not a thing and it’s not going to be a thing.’
Why not?
AQP seeks like a genuinely good idea that, if clearly communicated in a safety focused way, could save lives.
Creeping on people, making a point of opposing safety agencies, and making videos where he claims to have taken evidence from an active crash scene investigation, none of those portray someone who will work with others or who values industry safety over personal grandeur. At best, it interferes with his good work.
I've read some of the lawsuits Gryder has been involved with. He's got some screws loose.
Make you feel better?
You’ve let yourself down here buddy.
A person died. Mr Gryder has a right to “investigate” this and any other aviation incident he chooses. The NTSB are an embarrassment at the moment.
If you have a beef with Mr Gryder please don’t use tragedies like this to get one over on him.
Gryder is unqualified as an accident investigator. His illegal meddling serves no purpose other than a PATHETIC attempt to promote himself. His conspiracy theories are trash. Gryder has a pile of legal actions against him all because of his own actions. He's no better than a Trevor "I crashed my plane" Jacob and should be expelled from Aviation permanently! Hopefully Gryder spends some time in jail, just like Jacob!
No, the general public does not have a right to investigate aviation accidents.
I’ve ALWAYS felt something slightly off about this guy before. I’m glad I’m not the only one
About Dan Gryder, not Dan Millican..
Ditto. There was always something about Gryder that always rubbed me the wrong way. His “investigations” and aviation “insights” were more premature assumptions than anything else. Sadly, I don’t think all the legal battles he’s in right now will change that. His pride and ego will un-phase him to all of this and he’ll just keep putting other aviators down. Still, one can hope that he’ll finally learn from all of this, but time will tell.
Interfering? Whatever. Why does this guy have it out for Gryder?
because of the prop strike and the Ut-Oh gyro incident that Dan G gave it to Dan M .
Because Gryder is a con artist
@@stormanglass927 Gryder is a conman. Mark my words, Gryder comes to an end as a smoking hole in the ground of his own doing. Unless he's jailed first.
Anyone who disagrees with Mr. Gryder's actions on this tragedy is naive. The FAA ###### up and don't tell me the NTSB would not hesitate to cover it up. Lots wrong with allowing the stacks in the first place. Then someone forgot to connect the wires? Possibly. Someone forgot to put the bolts back in the door plug. It is called being human, if you do not believe it was intentional. Personal attack not needed.
NTSB didnt approve those stacks. That was FAA long time ago. The plant is on the visual section of the approach, not the IFR section. She went over 100 feet under glide slope, too slow and no flaps too= she lost control.
AQP can be a list of needed maneuvers. Or a list of unneeded. Depends on who made the AQP. The AQP Dan Gryder promotes dont include EFATO maneuvering, accelerated stalls, Windy GRM or low go arounds. Those maneuvers cause most accidents when done wrong. CFI's that cannot teach them make an AQP without them. A Mild Maneuvering AQP only. A BS AQP.
You're right, Dan G should trespass and stalk people, that's totally acceptable and honorable behavior. 😂🤦♂️
Keep drinking the koolaid buddy.
@@zachschanebergeryou see how easy it is to discredit people? You put those labels on there and voila. Look at the context and stop following like a lemming!
Say what you want about Mr Gryder, I believe deep down he has a good heart and just wants to prevent or minimize GA accidents as much as humanly possible. Is he opinionated and can sometimes rub someone the wrong way? Absolutely! So what! Watch his talk with Baltimore County Community College aviation students that was recorded 5/3.
Are we all afforded the "So what!" ?
You need to stop bashing gryder millikan. It's obvious you have something against him. No one comes here to hear you talk about Dan gryder.
I certainly do - Millican is performing an essential service to the community by exposing DG for the toxic menace he is
I watched that Gryder guy’s video once of the religious cult leader’s accident death and I couldn’t finish watching it because he called the her husband’s daughter who also died in the crash he was the pilot, and he told her that her Father had crashed on purpose killing another couple as well. I just thought he was sick, as someone who works in mental health, I honestly thought he was really sick. So I turned it off and found Juan’s channel. That Gryder guy is a nut job, and stalking women is just disgusting, let alone taking grizzly souvenirs from crash sites is really twisted.
No I feel like he did a fine job on the Tarzan video. That guy was way under qualified to fly that jet in that wx.
@@moleisrich1yes you’re absolutely right. He does well on many things and it’s sad to watch this conspiracy unfold in the hands of fellow pilots
@@AirJockey100 he doesn’t do well on anything.
@@cdeshaHe can probably fly any airplane better than most people so I’d say that’s doing pretty well
@@AirJockey100 probably not
I think Dan Gryder is right on...
I am married to one of the foremost neuroscientists on the planet and she tells me, (as if I needed her professional opinion), your diagnosis is inappropriate unless Dan has been professionally tested. Unfortunately, you diminish your credibility by making such claims. You have a compelling story without the psychiatric diagnosis. Also, bringing up the stalking charges and lawsuit etc is completely inappropriate. How does that relate to trespassing and stealing a light? You are way out of line trying to destroy someone's reputation.
Right ! I was taught to keep quiet if I didn’t have anything nice to say . DM (idiot)
Yeah the guy making this video obviously doesn't like the Dan guy for whatever reason. That's fine, but why is he making a video about nonsense shit the Dan guy did? Just go confront Dan face to face and hash it out. This video was childish
What credibility?
Just wondering why are you so excited about this?
Dan Millican had an incident taking off on a gyrocopter and Dan Gryder put him down a lot for"pilot error". Dan gryder just wanted to put down another youtuber with more views than him. He loves to do that to many. Payback time now.. LOL..
@@user-lq7hf1ww3k I mean, was it pilot error? Prove dan "just wanted to put down another youtuber with more views than him." "He loves to do that to many." That alone is you "just" defaming dan. You can't just jump to that conclusion because you don't like him, or disagree with his points, or because has been found liable for damages for an entirely separate incident. Dan lawsuit seems to have been lost due to administrative issues anyway.
Man with unchecked parachute will jump to conclusion….
@@andrewagner2035 I saw Dan puting down the CFI from MZero an even saying he cheated on his first wife and more. Bad..
Even call name to Juan Brown and many others with personal attacks for nothing at all. PAYBACK TIME NOW.. LOL..
@@seahour9147 i USED TO LIKE DAN G. But then I saw Dan puting down the CFI from MZero an even saying he cheated on his first wife and more. Bad crap from Dan G.
Even called names to Juan Brown and many others with personal attacks for nothing at all. PAYBACK TIME NOW.. LOL..
when I saw gryder's original video of him and the light in his lap it felt so wrong... I was hoping it was a prop...
I saw it too. I was under the impression that the items he was picking through in that video were left on the side of the road for the dump. It wasn't really clear in the video how he had access to the stuff. I was a little surprised/uneasy how he might of come by it all. The few parts he had taken from a couple other crash sites were all well after the crash sites had been abandon and official investigations had ended. Just small bits of metal that just never got fully cleaned up.
He acted like this was no different, at least until he said at the end of the video "I took their light" "I bet they will be mad" or something to that effect. Seemed like he was just being sarcastic and humorous, not that he had actually like stolen it. I figured the stuff was abandoned making what he did no different than picking up furniture on the curb destined for the trash like people do all the time. Didn't know he had allegedly trespassed. That's not good/okay at all.
I thought he had bought a copy. I didn't bother anyway.
It's part of his dry humor. He likes pin-pricking the NTSB on occasion.
Yikes, I enjoy your videos and am not a fan of Gryder, but man what a hit piece. This video really diminishes credibility.
I love both your pages equally(Been a fan of DTSB probable cause, And yours as well) But I don’t agree with one thing you posted and frankly, I don’t think the situation With whatever is really going on with this lady in Louisiana needs to be aired. All of us in the business have dirt on each other. No one‘s perfect.
Stalking a female student certainly qualifies as bad behavior I would never give anyone a pass on, and speaks greatly about his character and ability to respect boundaries.
"The dog ate my homework" Gryder.
While Gryder may have his faults, there's no denying the accuracy of his videos. However, your fixation on him is detrimental to your channel and, consequently, affects Christy and your other employees. This appears to be a personal vendetta, which, regardless of its impact, doesn't reflect well. I appreciate both your and Gryder's content and will continue watching, but I encourage you to concentrate more on safety and aviation rather than this vendetta.
His videos are famously inaccurate. Remember the time he was fixated on the Aviation Safety Network building only having 2 floors? Then he went back when they were open and easily found their office on the 4th floor?
Precisely. Whatever you think about Grider’s methods, and I don’t defend them, I want to know the answers to what let this tower get put in the approach path. I easily verified Grider’s facts from the approach plate, public records, and accident report. The only thing missing is the NTSB‘s actual analysis of the illegal tower construction and light, which seems stunningly negligent, given what Grider found on the scene. We do not want Brittany to have died in vain. We must demand that the NTSB and FAA come clean about this accident investigation. Clearly it is incompetent, or possibly even corrupt.
@@packetguy42 lol . . .
I deny the accuracy of his videos. He makes things up constantly
Dan should not have taken the light, the NTSB should have. Where were they? Why was that evidence left unexamined? An accident like that, an obstruction in the glide path, should have been crawling with NTSB and FAA investigators.
Yeah, he got it _after_ the NTSB was there, apparently. So ...
No, the NTSB report stated it was taken before their investigation was complete. What a tool.
@@oscarb9139 But after they left the scene and left it behind. The investigation takes 2-3 years. NTSB = Incompetence.
@@davecat1458 Danny G = incompetence.
@@oscarb9139NTSB is kinda known for dragging their investigations out so we probably won’t know when it’s actually finished
Man, I am so glad I unsubbed from that guy, always seemed a little off to me. Always wondered why he always took videos down after putting them up, as if he thinks they’re actually gone. Oddly, was wondering what’s up with him the other day, now I know.
Sounds like you’ve got it in for Gryder. This is just like a cheap rag story. Why don’t you focus on more positive aviation safety and stories which are more becoming of you esteemed channel.
unfortunately, nothing was done about theft of the light or other alleged criminal charges
It remains to be seen. The NTSB is not an enforcement agency so it can't just start taking enforcement action. There may be on-going coordination between NTSB and FAA which may result in FAA enforcement action.
@@machsaga5141 FAA won't touch it. The Heyburn police would be the criminal investigative unit but the case stumped them so that was the end.
Trespassing and PL aren't extraditable, so if he stays out of Idaho, he is basically immune.
No complaints from me about the Heyburn video and tower light incident… the plant went after him with the Police because their ridiculous dodgy chimneys caused a fatal crash, and the NTSB are bitching because once again Gryder correctly called them out again for being sloppy and inept… made them look stupid so they play the victim…..
@@johnmoruzzi7236 Could not have said it better my friend.
I’ve tried to point out basic inconsistencies on Dan’s videos and he just deletes the comments. I’m no Gryder fan by any stretch but I do hope he gets the help he obviously needs before he hurts himself or others. Absolutely brutal.
It would be interesting to know which time frames we are talking about here. Dan Gryder claims he was on site for a very long time after the crash. If the lamp was so important, why was it still lying around? It has already happened that after a crime scene was released, civilians found bodies in a burned down house. Then to claim that you entered a crime scene without authorization is more likely to mean that an investigator didn't do his job. You are right. This is not looking good. For for who?
I know Grider said it was a long time after the crash investigation and the investigators overlooked a lot of things
Exactly!
@@rickiehobson9351 According to DG he is better than all NTSB agents, even when he has no training on that. And trespassing and stealing possible future evidence are 2 crimes. Yes they are. Many times investigators have to go back to RE EXAMINE the place and items left there.. DUHH !
Would an investigator of the professionalism of, let's say; Greg Feith, would have closed a scene without the light, or a throttle body, a manifold, etc., The big point here is; in a fashion of time, what is a crime scene?
@@emergencylowmaneuvering7350 If they have to go back to collect evidence like a light - they failed. And this is exactly what Dan claims. Bingo.
Like hours on the Hobbs meter, so as the beacon turns...
stay tuned for the next episode of "General Airport"
That made me laugh!
It appears that Gryder is the National Enquirer of UA-cam aviation.
Facetious restraining orders.
Dang Bryan, if only I had shared evidence and details. Maybe next time I'll post a police report or two and court documents.
@@Timberns It's 100% supported and files uploaded.
I noticed I had not seen a video from Mr Gryder for sometime and my reaction was he must have got in some trouble as a result of his lack of judgement. So finding this information was no surprise. It’s a sad situation, but bound to happen.
Gryder releases a new video every Sunday and occasionally others during the week. He addressed this last Sunday.
@@ResortVideos805He didn't "address" shit on last Sunday. He is forgetting what got him 106K subscribers.
@@user-ln9ku6of6g like 2.5 weeks ago yes he did Mr. Generic Username
This isn't the first time Dan has been in trouble. He should be shut down and arrested if in deed he took the light.
Why did he decide he needed to steal pivotal evidence involved in a aviation casualty on private property? He isn't an NTSB investigator. He isn't even a private investigator. For UA-cam clout? This guy lost his marbles. Hopefully the FAA/NTSB prosecutes to the fullest extent of the law.
@@pmccoy8924you wonder why he stole the evidence even though he isn’t involved with the NTSB? He thinks he is better than the NTSB and FAA. He has a slogan of DTSB.
You are no different than Dan making time for this video. Focus on making good content and not playing petty games. All of you guys come accross like fighting school kids.
Dan G had said and done a lot of bad things and need to stop. Enough.
legend has it Dan was playing his guitar there as well
Dan, I don't agree with the negative comments you are getting from other viewers. It's important that your info gets out to people who follow that less and less desirable youtuber. His actions are disgraceful.
Whose actions are unprofessional?
I met Gryder at OSH last year. My initial take on him is he’s a grifter. I knew this was about him as soon as I saw the title. First he makes up “facts” and gets sued for libel, now this. A smart person knows when to quit. Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome result is the definition of insanity.
The old definition of insanity was popular 20 yrs ago.
re: "First he makes up “facts” and gets sued for libel,"
That right there may be libelous ... but, IANAL.
Apparently no one posting here really cares about actual facts? Change my mind.
@@uploadJ how is stating facts libelous? Explain this to me.
ua-cam.com/video/FHel0JQf5nk/v-deo.htmlsi=gk1Glt325E7F2iSj did some people forget about this one.
@@skigolfmike re: "First he makes up “facts” and gets sued for libel"
The facts on the Cook case are in error? Which so-called facts are in error?
Please explain.
Stick with aviation stuff. You have some weird obsessing with Gryder.
This is just a real shame. I’m not going to assume any type of motive for Dan Millican’s video here. He does often report on aviation related news reports. But let me ask you this; if I mention the name Bill Clinton what comes to your mind? I see this as an unnecessary distraction to what we all want to learn about when we subscribe to the various aviation channels on You Tube or any other platform. This latest legal action, which is of public record, tarnishes the important message of keeping oneself safe in this field of aviation which we all so highly value. Everyone is entitled to his or her opinion but let us all move onward and upward together and enjoy the privilege of flying. We are truly among the very fortunate!
Actually, the report on the women Gryder illegally harassing and stalked in Louisiana is directly related to aviation. She was most likely an unwitting student of his. Had she known how unhinged he was, it may have persuaded her to find a different instructor that wasn't an apparent (and demonstrated) danger in the aviation community.
I think Gryder's mental state has deteriorated. That's sad.
He flew 757's , 767's, & 777's, his acuity seems to be as intact as it was when he was a commercial airline pilot as he flies a DC-3 and helps fly other people's aircraft when they need a diagnosis or instruction. How could there be any deterioration? Where do you get this info?
@@dabneyoffermein595did you perhaps notice that I preferenced this with the words, "I think," this denotes it is my opinion, not a certainty of fact. However, my opinion is also formed from my observation of his content and controversies over the last couple of years. Capische?
Gryders “suicide plan” sounds just like someone who would blow a whistle on something and then set up their own suicide to fuel the fires of conspiracy theorists.
Dan Gryder is the latest Trevor Jacob
Gryder was right, someone from the FAA should go to jail!
for what? Not flying the plane for the pilot who couldn't maintain altitude?
the whole situation with "Angelle"
and the situation with the light,
should be separate videos.
No it shouldn't... it's all encompassing & tells the tale succinctly of "The Current Weird, Weird World Of Dan Gryder".....
@@_Ben4810 taking that light was obviously a stupid move,
I won't even call it a mistake...
idk what's up with Angelle, it would be nice if each incident was discussed in more detail 🤔
He was interesting at first. But then he started having wild theories about the physics of airplanes that were easily refuted by any number of engineering textbooks. And then more sensationalism crept in. And then he simply became a weirdo and creep. And somewhere in there he crashed a poor guy's c152 and just walked away.
C150/C152 don't have back seats
Will do. Thanks
@@Smithy88888 Matt Mansell posted a video about it during the rebuild of his 150. Apparently a slight rut developed in the flap track at 40 degrees that only prevents travel when aerodynamic pressure is pushing the flaps to the back part of the track in flight. There's no pressure on the flaps on the ground, so they retracted normally for the NTSB during their investigation.
At any rate, flaps tend to no produce much extra lift past 30 degrees. Anything past that point and they are effectively spoilers. People tend to only use them for steep approaches over obstacles. You would not, as an example, use them for a low inspection pass on a STOL field like Grider did. There is a reason why Cessna stopped putting 40 degree flaps on their airplanes.
@@SquawkCode Dan G was flying the airplane and was PIC of the C150 when it crashed. Dan's experience was undoubtedly at least part of the reason they were able to walk away.
@@peteranderson037 yeah, the reason they started limiting the flaps to 30 was to increase the gross weight.
So by trying to be relevant and self important, he painted himself into a corner of being a thief or being a liar. Brilliant move
Oh, his figurative "rap sheet" is much longer than being a "thief" and "liar". He is the worst that aviation has to offer. His biggest crime is he's a self-indulgent narcissist with zero integrity.
@@jerrylittle7797Sounds like you have some personal issues to contend with. Do better. Most of what Gryder does for aviation safety is more than any of us have done.
@@AirJockey100 speaking for yourself of course. Gryder is a D1Ck and abuses people around him. Everyone, even his cheering section, sees that. My "personal issues"? Nah, not really.
@@AirJockey100 he’s done literally nothing but make up problems where they don’t exist and harass the families of dead people.
@@AirJockey100What kind of parent names their daughter "Gordon?" Er, son?
I can't imagine taking flying lessons from someone who talks about how he would stage his self-ending as a plane crash. Said in jest, or not, that's a big nope for me.
I have personally flown with DG. Based on that, I would never get in a plane with him again. He's fooling his audience into believing he cares about safety. He simply does not.
Says the guy with silly in his name. lol
That's interesting to hear. Doesn't surprise me. My only issue with this video is the history (comments made by DG about DM) make videos about DG look like revenge or payback. If it is or isn't it just looks like it.
@@mcotherman5957 Read all the comments and notice the red hearts on the ones millican likes. He tries to pretend he has the high moral ground while he slings mud.
@@rjobrien7805 DG earned DM's ire. DG slandered DM. DG's been sued and lost over slander. I hope DM will realize that he doesn't have to do a thing for vengeance to be dealt out. It's better to sit back and watch it happen. Yeah, I noticed the hearts.
@JustPlaneSilly I've seen you make similar comments before, and you have always seemed like a good person, so your opinion is valued.
Stopped watching him awhile ago as he was veering into everything being the government's fault and making outlandish claims to get clicks.
@blancolirio nailed it, and he used to be friends with DG. I imagine he's lost all respect for "Probable Cause"- I sure have.
3+ restraining orders? Another lawsuit that sues you into financial oblivion for slander? Shown to be lying to your audience (or the police) about getting the light to the crash? This guy sounds like a real winner that can't escape his continuous cycle of lies.
I hope DELTA AIRLINES revokes his pass so he can't use free flights to commit crimes and stalk people. What an absolute fkn creep.
Taking that light was a major bonehead move! Forget the tresspass... If he had filmed the wires not connected in situ. he would have made a much better point. Now, everything to do with the light will be dismissed even if he is correct. He did make some very good points about the approach itself, and how the FAA allowed it. IMO the approach to that runway should have been suspended when they put up the stacks. I hope that argument doesn't get lost because of Gryder's lack of self control.
His argument gets lost, for sure. Someone else who does have credibility will have to agree with it and argue it. He threw that capability away.
You don’t get it… If not for Dan, the light would NEVER have been an issue. The NTSB would have swept everything under the rug and say “nothing to see here folks”
@@VincentArdolino wow! You have a crystal ball?
I watched a few of his videos and thought to myself. This dude has the biggest ego I'd ever seen.
Had* the biggest ego you’ve ever seen. Had*
There's tendency in the comments to write this off as simply a pissing match between two comparable aviation UA-camrs. In truth, the similarity between Dan Millican and Dan Gryder ends at their first name. Only Gryder has used his channel as a platform for wildly sloppy accident analyses built upon knee-jerk speculation and vindictive personal attacks against the deceased and anyone who dares call him out. His behavior spanning years includes many instances of blackmail and defamation against his detractors and has led to multiple restraining orders stemming from harassment of people in aviation (not to mention a recent 1.1 million defamation civil judgement against him). By contrast, one would be hard pressed to find anything similar in Millican's UA-cam presence - the discussions on his channel take safety seriously while focusing on making the aviation community a more welcoming and nurturing space. Sadly, Gryder's style inevitably attracts a number of folks, so the rest of us ignoring him can't mitigate the harm he causes. I'm glad Millican has the courage to stand up to him.
What's with the child like behavior between you and qryder, this is sad. To see 2 grown men act like this, ps scene was done with from the investigation and returned to the plant to clean up, the planet gave many "private investigators" access to the debris left behind that was getting cleaned up so if he did take it it was wrong but the debris was outside of any enclosed fence for pick up by the scrapers paid to remove it within a few days after he and a few others were on-site including local kids playing. If he did take it from the debris it was 100% wrong it was at that time property of the company doing the cleanup & disposal of the debris.
What a weird video...
Gryder is a weird guy so that checks out.
Well, you like it or not, she went over 100 feet under the glide slope, no flaps and too slow. almost stalling she hit the tower. The photo see an airplane descending with no flaps towards the toward with nose up. She was not supposed to be there, illegal . Thats it. She sort of lost control. If she was a guy, an old guy especially, most could not talk much about it. Was pilot error.
The jet engine is a good model for pilots to follow. When it’s shut down, it quits whining.
Could it be that at some level, Gryder knew he had psychological issues that would have prevented him from obtaining a medical certificate (evidenced by the fact he accused someone else of it, and narcissists tend to project)?
And if so, if the FAA wasn't so backwards with the way it issued (or denied) medical clearances, maybe Gryder would have seeked the help he apparently needed much sooner?
Really good point about projecting. You see this over and over again.
@@TakingOff the stalking and the just going to the accident site for his own gain, as though the rules didn't apply, also lend credence to the theory he has psychological issues. But he can't get help even if he wanted to because it would end his career. So we have someone who needs help, maybe even knows he needs help, and doesn't seek it due to the rules. I don't know how to fix this, but it needs to be fixed.
Great channel; I find your commentary educational and instructive 🏆
Thanks.
Does anyone wish they had heeded bad feelings about ‘rescue rehab’ BEFORE there was a fatality?
Sure is a couple videos out there of professional pilots going back and forth tit for tat. A dang shame to see such great pilots and aviation personalities throw their fan base down the drain by acting like children with these back and forth videos.
Dan is the only one acting like a child.
Gryder’s conduct is dangerous and beyond the pale. People need to be warned about him.
You’re absolutely right. Seems like a lot of mature adults a stooping pretty low
DG is a charlatan and deserves to be called out.
Is this aviation UA-camr beef? WTF. I expect this in the prison UA-cam genre or maybe the gangster rap UA-cam genre. But in aviation? Dude, I thought you guys were above this petty beef. Am I safe when I'm flying up there? Whose in the cockpit? A rational person, or some kind of maniac who spends hours creating beef with another UA-camr?
he is pathetic for sure!
@@SkyKing337 I'm not a pilot or anything. What the heck are Jabbies? Is this a clever attempt at comedic diction, (do you mean anyone who takes a jab at someone else over UA-cam) Or is it some kind of Drug or pilot lingo. I'm an expert on drugs, never heard of a Jabbies, but not an expert at aviation
Not a Gryder fan, but what’s the point.
Dan Gryder is a stain on aviation that unfortunately can't be ignored.
So honestly who cares… it seems like you can’t take a joke and are using Dan G as a way to get views… Dan G is going to far and will have to answer that but that’s his business not mine! I’m going back over to Blanco’s channel he’s great!
Gryder is arrogant and usually wrong.
Is his pathology enough to have his pilots license revoked?
The way the FAA does medical certificates, he would only lose his medical certificate if he got help for his pathology.
A person could be a bipolar paranoid schizophrenic and if they never went to therapy or took medicine for it, they would get their medical certificate without any difficulty.
Meanwhile, if a pilot is having marital issues due to his schedule and wants to seek psychological help in dealing with it, that person could lose their medical certificate for six months to three years the next time they went in to renew their medical certificate (for airline pilots, this is every six months).
The FAA medical system is broken and has been since the current rules went into effect in the mid-1980's.
Go to hell with that authoritarian mindset
@@chrisfly777300ER What's your problem? I was curious given the sort of things the FAA does in your country.
@@noelinsley8057
DM has a pilot license? really?
My question is ? What business is it of yours ?
Juan Brown still remembers when he arrived at the 2022 ACCA Reunion in Illinois on that C310. And Dan Gryder, went to the airplan but he was The ONLY ONE SHIRTLESS of the group. DG first went and hug his wife plenty. While been sweaty and shirtless. I could see Juan Brown CRINGE next to his wife which didnt want to hug shirltess dan gryder. DG is a creep.
Yeah that was a weird one for sure