Time-Sert Thread Repair - Heli-Coil Alternative
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- A video showing how to repair damaged threads with a Time-Sert kit. It's an alternative to heli-coils, that I think is a lot better. I've used their spark plug thread repair kit with success and after seeing how well it worked I started using them instead of heli-coil thread repair kits.
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Good video. As a former shop teacher remember when tapping the hole, after every one turn of the tap be sure to back it off 1/4 to 1/2 turn to break the chips loose. This keeps them from becoming too long and failure to do so can actually cause the new threads to be deformed. Otherwise, a very nice instructional video.
That and you might not want to tap it as fast as that ;-)
Big help on educating me on the difference of the two. Having a 2015 STI brake caliper issue and this helps a lot in knowing what to ask for. Thanks!
helicoil also has solid inserts that work very well for much cheaper, the timesert kit seems to have pretty high quality tooling though, which is nice.
Noah Boswell b
gracias..
Why would 3 people dislike this?
This video is great.
Thanks dude.
+John Gavina they r may be Heli-Coil's marketing agents lol
In a "Time-Sert" video I saw, they just about always recommend using "Locktite 266" to set the inserts. The oil is more for the tapping process. It helps turning with harder metals. But after threading you always need to clean out the area with brake cleaner and then compressed air to remove all oil residue and metal shavings for the Locktite 266 to hold best. Always use Anti-Seize compound on the bolts you put into the inserts after the fact, so they can't fuse and ruin the inserts when using too much force to remove the fused bolts down the road. Keeps the repair serviceable much much longer.
Great video...time-sert is new to me: always used heli-coils for decades...nice to see a much better alternative! Thanks for sharing:))
You drill those threads like a boss great vid man.
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You said and did what I need to know, thank you very much for the lesson.
Great job, great video production ! Thank you for all your hard work on this ! God Bless !!
Fran Danco
just a tip instead of using a Spanner/Wrench you can use a socket, extension and T-bar to make an extended drive tap handle works great for working in tight spots
Dankie/ Merci Blue-eyes-seto. I was wondering on that same question. So one can use a normal Geogor-socket extension. If the hole more than 60mm deep I will have a problem. But with Corona is a bigger problem. Thanx for the advise.
blueeyesseto -- Exactly ! I would put a socket on it and push it straight and turn it slowly..
very informative. i used to live in md near metropolitan area i miss that place alot.
Nice video and nice explanation. Never heard of these. Have always used helicoils. This looks like a nice product. Professionally done. Thanks.
Baie dankie/ Merci Beaucaup 49ccScoot. I have the a the same problem with my Chinese Gomoto. The head bolt was strip. But my problem is ore bite difficult. It's do difficult to explain in English. You video was a great aid. Thanks form South Africa.
Awesome video. I can see this was not your first rodeo doing this! I like to use thread locker also, and I would use the Red. Thanks for sharing.
Hope my job goes as easy as yours did .... great video, thanks!!!
Thanks foe a great video. I should recommend thread cutting oil during the [first] tapping procedure. The comment was edited; the edit is in braces.
Excellent Video and explanation. Top notch job!
Thank you!
Sweet demo, man.....thanks much.
I really like and make your videos my favorites! they are a great deal on learning ! great job my friend. thank you!
Nicely done. Hanson or irwin has those tap handles that a ratchet can attach too. Around $35 for two varied ranges. I usually like to oil the tap n drill bit a little to prevent heat warpage, just from my horrible experiences, lol.
Why spend $35 when a 12 point or spline socket can be used? You can also use a drill and go very slow.
Great video bud, I just stripped my drain bolt
Thank you. Good luck with the repair.
I don't know the specifics of that engine and sizes, but it should be drilled out with the bit in the kit if you're using the time-sert. You may get away with it if it's really close, but it will be harder to tap and you run more risk of damaging the bits or engine cases. You're gonna want a drill to do the countersink cut as well. It's worth doing right, even if you have to wait on a drill IMO, especially when dealing with engine cases.
Great demo, thanks.
cool video - i hadn't heard of this alternative, will keep it in mind next time I cock something up :)
Great job thanks for showing
In a tight spot careful use of a drill is much easier to keep straight and faster to boot
Wonderful. Thank you!
Can you recommend a Time Sert insert and rethreader for a 49cc spark plug hole? 10mm thread diameter and 1/2" thread length....please answer...you would save my life.
Contact TimeSert (dot com) and tell them the thread and depth and material of the head. They should recommend a part number. I will say that some of the kits are very expensive. Definitely check the cost of a new head before you order anything.
Thanks
Thanks bud
Nice and very nice video! Well decribed..
Smashing news. Great video, thank you very much :-)
great dude. thanks
as do i. but when tapping, maybe i missed it. but id tap in 3-4 rotations, then back off a half turn, then continue. but ive used timeserts and helicoils myself. and like the OP here, i prefer the timesert because of the locking part of it. ive got to use one here soon on a motorised bicycle engine.
Good video
You can screw on a nut on a screw behind the screw socket. It's much easier and cheaper.
instead of using that small wrench, do you think a variable speed driver would do?
Can the inserts be inserted on the spark plug, without the spendy kit? I already have my spark plug sockets rethreaded from my crappy helicoil kit that kept failing.
They sell inserts made from different materials for head repairs, depending what the head is made of so they expand and contract at similar rates. I'm not sure if their standard insert kits work with their spark plug inserts or not.
@@49ccscoot refering to the time sert spark plug socket "Specific" kits. If my socket has already been tap and died, can I just insert the spark plug in the insert...and insert it all together (in socket), without having to buy pricey $150 kit?
@@fisher5413 Maybe. They use a system that locks in place when a second sort of tap goes through, by pushing material outward. It may do the same when a plug or bolt goes through, or maybe it won't work out well. I guess if you can get one cheap enough, you can try it. I wouldn't count on a high success rate. I've only used the whole plug kit and that worked well for me.
Just bought a kit and oil didn't come with it. What kind of oil should I use? Thanks
pgreenx You'd prob be fine with a drop or two of motor oil for the installer lube, though I'd imagine Time-Sert only recommends their specific oil.
thanks for the vid, is the t-s a full thread size up from the original thread?
I assume it depends on exactly which time-sert is used.
@ 90GTVert Can you tell me the size of the drill bit which is included in that Time-Sert Thread repair kit.. Did you fixed M8x1.25 thread in this video?
It was M8x1.25. It's 3AM ATM and I'm too tired to go to the garage, but if I don't reply just reply back so I'll get a reminder.
Can you use 2 time serts back to back for deep 1/14 depth thread repair?
No. You would need to look for longer inserts. They make them in different lengths.
I just had intake threads strip on me. There’s just not a whole lot of material in that particular spot that scares me. Minarelli also
I have used M6x1.0 timeserts to repair intake bolt holes on my Chinese Minarelli engines before. It worked fine for me.
ive been using heli coil for years. it would seem over time the bolt would rust and the time sert would come out when you take the bolt out.
You can put never seize on the bolt threads
How do you ensure you are drilling in perfectly straight especially when simply doing it by hand?
If you need it "perfectly" straight, then set it up in a drill press. By hand, you have to pay close attention to all angles. You can setup something as a guide or reference to help, or maybe use a part of whatever you're working on as a reference.
I'm looking at doing an oil drain bolt hole under the vehicle if needed in the future. It's kind of hard to get anything positioned when crawling around under there, but at the same time there isn't really any sort of place to fix a guide fixture on. Not sure how perfect I'd have to get it for everything to seal properly.
It doesn't have to be perfect. If you take your time and get it as close as you can, it will likely work. If you aren't confident about it, maybe invest some effort into figuring out how to get easier access... raising the vehicle or engine or something like that.
I was wondering the same thing- I think Im going to drill a hole thru a small 1 inch block of steel or aluminum on a drill press to ensure a vertical hole the size of the drill bit. Then Im going to take that steel block and position it over the hole to be drilled out. That way when I put the drill bit in, it will be lined up perpendicularly just fine.
What gum u use bro
What I don't understand is that why not just tap using next oversize thread and install bigger bolt? So if there is 6mm OD bolt one should tap to M7 and use M7 screw? Why is it not so?
That's OK in some cases. Sometimes there are reasons to retain the original fastener size. Perhaps I didn't wish to drill out my exhaust mounts for the larger bolts for example. Other times it's more critical.
where do i get it from? which stores carry these?
I've always bought them online. Search Time-Sert and the size you're looking for and they should come up.
I buy my inserts direct from Timesert and no need for the kits if you already have lots of tapping tools.
Sorry I'm a noob. Is motor oil 3:1?
Thanks
pgreenx 3 in 1 oil is not motor oil, but would prob also work.
thanks - I guess motor oil is motor oil.....I hope I don't screw this up. your video was very helpful (especially in me picking time sert as a product)
helicoil never failed!!! just when insert the helicoil use red lockite
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my spark plug just flew out my engine and the thred is on the spark plug what should I do?
If this is a scooter or single cylinder engine, then it may be best just to replace the head. If it's a larger engine, there are TIme-Sert kits for many popular applications or you could go with a helicoil or take the head to a machine shop and they'll fix it for you.
+90GTVert it's a gy6 engine that I just put on the bike
you should be fine if you match the thread and buy the right timesert kit. I used a helicoil solid insert very similar to the timeserts when i blasted the plug out of my little 4 cylinder pickup.. but like 90gtvert said you may be better off just replacing the head on a small motor. otherwise just try and find the helicoil solid insert and use that first, i only paid like 26 bucks compared to the 80 dollar timesert kit then if you batch it then just throw a new head on there.
on a 50cc taatao qmb1p39 what is the size of the two long bolts that go thru the valve n piston heads in to the motor on the right side please some help out there thank u all for any help with this.
+tom mccarty M6x1.0
+90GTVert thank for the help but not the four smell bolts that hold the piston head n valve head but the two bolts that run the length of the heads that bolt to the motor on the right side. there only two long bolts I think they are m6x1.0 pitch 85 or 90 length do you know n if so some help would be great thanks again.
Not sure what you call the right side, as some look at it differently. To me the right side is the one opposite the cam gear, the exhaust side. The left side is the side the CVT and cam gear are on. On the left side there are 2 bolts on the outside, that don't require removing the valve cover to access. Those should be what you listed. If you mean the actual studs that go into the cases and all the way up through the rocker assembly, I'm not sure on length and pitch, but www.partsforscooters.com/?partner=49CCSCOOT carries them.
I guess it the left side so the way u sit on it is the way u look at it so when I put my big bore kit on to get the heads off on the side of the chain there are two long bolts 90GTVert u are the man on 50cc thanks
Use a ratchet with a 1/4 " 12 point socket for the driver , not a wrench.
why didn't you just tap with your drill
I've always used taps and dies by hand.
You should of chased it with a tap