Harp Girl betrayed Kate's friendship by sleeping with her partner's son. Willie totally disrespected his mother by sending his 1/2. dressed girlfriend to raid her kitchen after sex. That was just jacked up. Very disrespectful, he should've been kicked out a season ago.
Its a completely ridiculous premise - I mean who does that ? I don't care if she's straight out of the trailer - you don't come as a guest to someone's house and that night hook up with the son / daughter - its pathetic .
it was fantastic when Kate called Willie's bluff and handed him a box to pack - then my disappointment hit when I saw she regretted it. And that BS speech by Doug "unfortunately Willie can't back down, Kate, so YOU have to"...what a heap of dung!
Willie was a loser from the word go. It's Kate and Doug's fault they never expected much out of him. Allowing him to drop out of school to be a writer, then when he can't get that going they are appalled that he entertains the idea of going back to school. They basically tell him he's too talented for that. They created this monster.
@@SnazzyDetritus Agreed. Even if it weren't for her own feelings she has to think of Buddy and Annie and the influence this has over them. If Kate and Doug just wink at it, what will they think later on when they start to consider sleeping with boys?
Audrey has never been a very good friend to Buddy. She’s very selfish. Causes Buddy much stress. And Willie was WRONG! Never should have done something like this with his 2 sisters influenced by it! I never understood why these writers made him out to be some sort of stud. He’s NOT! Living at home still, took years to finally get a job, even a car!! He flits from girl to girl. And Joan totally abused the hospitality shown her! They barely knew each other but hop into bed! Pretty disrespectful on both their parts, no matter what year it was....
Shows like these normalized dysfunctional families and still do. Looking at the comments on these episodes and seeing people describe them as "wholesome" and "heartwarming" is disturbing.
It's one thing for the two of them to sleep together as consenting adults but not in his parents' house or the cottage which is an extension of the parents' house. They may seem old fashioned but it was their house and they made the rules.
💔I needed & wanted her sooo bad. I used 2 want 2 jump into the TV & be with that Family, 'cause I was being abused by a narcissistic & cruel alcoholic mother who did nothing except put me down.😓
We had a phone in our upstairs hallway with a long, long cord that allowed us to take the receiver into our bedrooms for privacy. One time I was talking to my BFF and could hear her older brother in the background demanding she get off the phone. She dismissed him, then shortly after we got disconnected. I tried calling back several times and got no answer. At school the following day I asked her what happened. Her brother was so enraged he literally ripped the phone out of the wall!
When he gets mad or preachy,. he opens his mouth stupidly incredibly wide as he talks but the rest of his facial features stay totally still! It's bizarre-looking. Kinda makes me want to slap him.
Well, if I were going to do what they did (and that's a big "if"), I'd have been a *lot* more discreet about it. With Kate Lawrence as the Lady of the House, I wouldn't have awakened with Willie, then come into the kitchen with him in the morning if I knew how Kate felt about it. I'm just not that brazen. After "the deed" was done (again, IF I were going to do it), I'd have maybe hung out for a bit, and then as inconspicuously as possible, gone up to my own room for the rest of the night. But instead, they just come boldly waltzing into the kitchen together all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed first thing in the morning as if to say, "Good morning, everybody! We knocked boots 'til dawn and now we're starving...what's for breakfast?!" I'd have been mortified if they'd walked in on me at the fridge with nothing on but a big shirt like that.
@@ApartmentKing66 most normal people would have..Willie should have gone and gotten what they needed to begin with..they were very disrespectful to Kate and the rest of the family
This series taught many things. Among which was for adult children to be disrespectful and selfish. That guest house does not belong to Willie. My parents would never allow an unmarried child to sleep with a partner under their roof.
@Dawn taylor I can't believe kids like you. He's an "adult man who needs to live an adult life, he's not a child," yet he lives in HIS PARENTS' guesthouse, pays no rent, doesn't contribute in any visible way to the expenses of owning a house or property, therefore, is being SUPPORTED BY HIS FATHER in his early 20s, and you say it's "none of their business." Anything that goes on anywhere on my property is my business, kiddo. You must not have kids their age who do things you don't like in your home. Do you pay your own rent/mortgage, or are you still supported by your parents? I think I can guess which.
When I was a kid, I thought this show was a boring show with people driving station wagons. Now I see it was full of risque, innuendos, young girls, etc.
Yeah, I came to the "Family" party about 45 years late myself. I'd never seen an episode until about, I don't know, couple of weeks ago, maybe. I was never interested in it as a kid when it was on ABC in the mid-70s. My dad liked "Baretta" though. My classmates liked "Welcome Back, Kotter" and "Charlie's Angels," especially Farrah. All I ever heard in 5th grade was "Yoo gunna diiiiieee at recess," because they copied that one Sweathog (played by Robert Hegyes, I think) who always said that to Vinny Barbarino. To me, they were nothing but a bunch of losers on a shitty show (the characters, not the actors themselves).
I used to think the adult storylines are boring and that what was going on with Buddy, Audrey and their friends was interesting. Over forty years later, I still do.
@@jessicaholland2830 The cottage was very nice. It seemed a good transition place between living with the parents and living in your own place. Nancy has her own apartment now so Willie moved in and eventually he'll move to his own apartment just in time for Buddy to take the cottage. It's a nice place and I can imagine living there.
He's ok looking. I like his curly hair. But I have always gone for dark hair. He reminds me of the comic strip character "Dustin" in his still living at home at his age, and his inability to stick to one job or career, just flitting from job to job. Unlike Willie though, Dustin can't get a date to save his life. Women like guys with jobs, not losers who can't even support themselves let alone a wife and potential children.
I just started watching these reruns. Never noticed how many actors or on the show while they were still wet behind the ears. Even the episode with who is now known as Data from Star trek. Just like watching episodes of The twilight zone and actors getting their start who became very famous.
Sada was right, Willie had no respect for her or others in the family..letting a lady walk in half naked getting him food ..absurd! I.would have thrown her right out the door.. lol
Was a little brazen and she raids the fridge “because Willie is hungry”, seriously. I would be mortified to be caught by the parents and being a guest, not that I would do that, but the whole thing was very brazen.
I have enjoyed this show. I am glad the episodes were posted on YT. I remember watching this show a couple of times when it was on TV. I loved Sada then. I couldn't watch it every week. The school bus picked me up at 6:30 a.m. There was no way I could watch a 10:00 p.m. show until 11:00 and get up on time.
I've watched three episodes now with Kate having troubles. She was harassed by a student ,harassed by a teacher and now in deep with Willie. She is having the worst week ever. Willie needs to get a life, move out and grow up. Audrey....lets just say she needs to stop being so ....needy.
I think this episode is too progressive even now in 2020. Who would do that... sleep with the son of the woman who invited you into her home to practice for a music recital and expect her to be okay with it?!
There was a reunion planned in 1988, but it was killed by the Writer's Strike. Sada would have been apart of it, as she was still with us at that time. I'm not too sure if Elaine Heilveil, the actress who originated the role of Nancy would have been.
Here is the issue here: Neither parent saw an issue with Nancy having relations with any of her men in that same guesthouse (although they did in the episode that led to her finally getting her own apartment). With this said, I also see Kate and Doug’s point of view. It IS their home. Willie pays no rent, no bills, buys no groceries. So it’s their house rules. And like Nancy, if he he can’t live by those rules, he can chose to find his own place to live.
Kate was protective of Annie. Annie was wise to what was going on and Kate didn't want her exposed to that. It's different than the half a dozen guys Nancy was screwing in the guest house, Buddy was little and she was oblivious to that.
Slight correction: while it's indisputable that Nancy was using the guesthouse as her "love nest," as Willie did, in the episode where Nancy got her own place, she wasn't boinking the guy that night, they were actually working on some brief until he left.
I agree Buddy should join the sorority without hesitation or guilt. She should have that college experience. Audrey cannot be her ball and chain like in high school.
Because I don't believe in sororities and their exclusionary character, I actually thought the episode would end with Buddy staying loyal to Audrey. Granted, Audrey was a bit whiny, but that doesn't justify joining such an institution.
0:29, I can't believe she opened her letter at the box then stuck the trash and other letters in the box and only brought her letter back to the house! 🤣🤣 WTF!
I would never have gotten away with the way these kids talk to the parents on this show, and if you want to be treated as an adult and live in the guest house than buy your own food at least, you send your sex partner over in your parent's kitchen wearing nothing but your shirt to get some food, well only on tv would the parents have to apologize for not being hip enough, lol
yay for Kate! she FINALLY stood up to her bratty son. and screw Doug for telling her to back down! This episode makes me flipping mad. From Audrey sniveling at Buddy and giving her ultimatums, to dumb cluck clumsy annoying Shelley Long refusing to understand and admit that her behavior was disrespectful to Kate, to bratty Willie acting spoiled and entitled as usual, to Doug having the balls to tell Kate that Willie "can't back down, unfortunately" and she is going to have to.....there's enough in this episode to make me want to spit nails .
Lots of wrongs here, but I blamed Joan the most. As a guest in Kate's house, she pushed a relationship on Willy. Though he isn't without blame, some respect was due Kate and the rest of the household and he and Joan went too far, too soon. So says this dinosaur. Kate is a better and more forgiving woman than I am.
(29:11) Crocodile tears...She should've considered all that BEFORE she hopped into bed with her son...in her friends own home. Willie's even worse for disrespecting his parents home.👍🏽💯🤔
The problem with Willie here is that, he wants it both ways. They should absolutely Not go into Kate's kitchen, half dressed and take food to top it off. What nerve. He says his house, okay, but the kitchen in the main home is not "his" house. The writing here is off for Willie's character. Later episodes often have the characters doing things and saying things that are just Not them.
Not in my house! This is one thing my parents would not allow. Trends and times change but they should never have expected others to accept what they do. Willie talked about being a man but not secure enough to have his own house paying his own bills, living off his parents but expecting the privileges of an adult. Casual sex has been one of the reasons for so many disappointed people. If Joan had her own place, why was she there in the first place and why didn't they just go to her place when asked to behave. This may have just been a story but happens a lot.
She didn't live close enough to pop over to her place, that's why she was staying the night. But just because Kate liked her enough to have a music performance, don't mean she liked her enough for her son, even just casually.
Thank you..it has to have a refrigerated..this was just put in for the storyline OR maybe Willie doesn't keep his stocked bc he's always eating from the main house..whatever
Why did people drink coffee all day and night back then? 2 consenting adults Im all for but WOW...who jumps in bed with a virtual stranger? I did love this show back in the day.
... It's much worse now. Most of my younger co-workers (I'm 43 and ancient) drink coffee all day long just to stay awake. They also spend lots of money buying it instead of making their own.
I agree on both counts.... The coffee madness and the quick hook up between the Harp lady and Willie... But then again it was pre Aids, and I guess what they say about the Swingin' Seventies is true... Lol, I just remembered the character Larry, from three's company, and his cheesy pickup lines at the Reagle Beagle.... Cringe worthy!
I think Willie and Joan were way out of line here. First of all, the house (including the guest house) belongs to Doug and Kate….not to Willie; and as the owners of the property as well as the parents, they have every rite to set the rules for what goes on and what doesn’t on their property! The way Willie spoke to his parents should have earned him a boot in the ass and an eviction from the property! As far as Audrey, she’s a horrible friend to Buddy! She’s self centered and childish! Instead of being happy for Buddy and congratulating her, she selfishly gave Buddy an unrealistic ultimatum. I’m glad Buddy finally had that talk with her, and I’m glad that Audrey finally realized she was in the wrong.
I can’t believe l use to watch this as a child but it was normal to me people sleeping together. I seen a lot with people in my family. But l still love this show l always loved the mother. I wanted her as a mum. I just wanted a family like this.
Willy sleeps with everybody! And Shelly Long kissed him after they knew each other for five minutes. No build up. And that was ridiculous that she raided Kate's fridge like a teenager. If Willy is so grown up, why doesn't he have his own food.
Even if he is paying rent, that was his mother's guest. He should have at least waited until the two of them had their recital and then he could have called the girl and asked for a date. I doubt anybody would have had a problem with that.
@@Iworkwithnitwits David had his own apartment throughout the show. Mary still lived at home but she was in med school so that made sense. Joanie, Susan and Nancy were all living at home when they should have moved out. They were most like Willie in that sense. But they weren't bringing an endless parade of men in.
Lol I agree guys but there are VERY FEW families that actually do like one another as people and rather have their kids stay at the family home until they do get married. I hope my son stays with us till he’s married cuz he’s my only and well the way the world is now I rather my son still be at home ashen he’s an adult than struggle like I’ve seen ALOT of young adults struggle.
She didn't back down. She re-stated her opinion but she left the door open to still have a relationship with her son and she even played in the recital with that rude inconsiderate girl.
@Blue Butterfly I didn't like her too much when I was a kid watching this, but I love her now. She isn't always right. They are all pretty flawed humans. Like all of us.
@4:27 It's starting to look like Harpo suggested staying over at the house specifically to make her moves on Willie!! Oh Diane, I am SO disappointed. What would Sam and Frasier think??
Those 2 "adults" have some balls going into the mom's kitchen to get food. If they are so grown up, get up and go to a 24 hour diner.
Harp Girl betrayed Kate's friendship by sleeping with her partner's son.
Willie totally disrespected his mother by sending his 1/2. dressed girlfriend to raid her kitchen after sex. That was just jacked up. Very disrespectful, he should've been kicked out a season ago.
Its a completely ridiculous premise - I mean who does that ? I don't care if she's straight out of the trailer - you don't come as a guest to someone's house and that night hook up with the son / daughter - its pathetic .
Kate's 2 older kids seem to be sleeping with a different person every other episode.
They are both righteous trash 🗑️
You're right. I can't keep up with them all!
That was the 70s
Willie is the absolute worst!! He really got around!!! But truthfully, so did Nancy….with a small baby!!
The mom is absolutely right about to tell the girl to leave.
They should have told Willie to pack his bags long before this. They were tougher on Nancy than Mr. High School Dropout.
it was fantastic when Kate called Willie's bluff and handed him a box to pack - then my disappointment hit when I saw she regretted it. And that BS speech by Doug "unfortunately Willie can't back down, Kate, so YOU have to"...what a heap of dung!
But keeping him there over the garage, she has her own personal chauffer.
Willie was a loser from the word go. It's Kate and Doug's fault they never expected much out of him. Allowing him to drop out of school to be a writer, then when he can't get that going they are appalled that he entertains the idea of going back to school. They basically tell him he's too talented for that. They created this monster.
@@SnazzyDetritus Kate stood up for decency and everyone was against her. Doug is a pathetic little worm.
@@SnazzyDetritus Agreed. Even if it weren't for her own feelings she has to think of Buddy and Annie and the influence this has over them. If Kate and Doug just wink at it, what will they think later on when they start to consider sleeping with boys?
If I'd ever spoken to my dad in that tone and disrespect the way Willie is doing here, I would be on the floor.
SO true
I knew better to talk to my dad the way Willie did!
So, your father was abusive.
@@davidmaheengun2672 Yes and no. He was strict but very loving in his own way. I miss him a lot.
That's abusive!!!! How horrible.
Audrey has never been a very good friend to Buddy. She’s very selfish. Causes Buddy much stress.
And Willie was WRONG! Never should have done something like this with his 2 sisters influenced by it! I never understood why these writers made him out to be some sort of stud. He’s NOT! Living at home still, took years to finally get a job, even a car!! He flits from girl to girl.
And Joan totally abused the hospitality shown her!
They barely knew each other but hop into bed! Pretty disrespectful on both their parts, no matter what year it was....
I think Willie was married for 3 months and then his wife died. I heard something about that in the episode called The Covenant.
@@girlgeniusnyc272 if she married Willie, she must have died of shame
Shows like these normalized dysfunctional families and still do. Looking at the comments on these episodes and seeing people describe them as "wholesome" and "heartwarming" is disturbing.
I agree completely about Willie, not even remotely sexy or otherwise.
@@waypay1 I totally agree! And hardly anyone says anything new or different in the comments.
Willie, if you don’t like your mother rules, then get your own place.... your girlfriend, and you are SO disrespectful to Kate your mother ....
Why are you posting a comment to him as if he's real?
It's one thing for the two of them to sleep together as consenting adults but not in his parents' house or the cottage which is an extension of the parents' house. They may seem old fashioned but it was their house and they made the rules.
I really enjoyed Sada Thompson as the Mom.
Me, too. She was such a unique character: understated, classy, yet loving and warm.
I had a huge crush on her growing up. Hung her poster on my wall
💔I needed & wanted her sooo bad. I used 2 want 2 jump into the TV & be with that Family, 'cause I was being abused by a narcissistic & cruel alcoholic mother who did nothing except put me down.😓
@@cedricliggins7528 is this Michael J. Fox?
The Mum was right. The son’s behaviour was unacceptable.
I can't get enough of this wonderful heartwarming family show.
Ya! I never even knew this Series existed! But it’s fun and thanks for posting!
This show is my comfort food
Remember when you had to wait for people to get off the phone ? Lol loved being anonymous back then / more freedom ! Damn smart phones
We had a phone in our upstairs hallway with a long, long cord that allowed us to take the receiver into our bedrooms for privacy. One time I was talking to my BFF and could hear her older brother in the background demanding she get off the phone. She dismissed him, then shortly after we got disconnected. I tried calling back several times and got no answer. At school the following day I asked her what happened. Her brother was so enraged he literally ripped the phone out of the wall!
The "guest house"....... more like the romp shack. Willy was a sleezeball.
I wish every time Willie got mad and started lecturing everybody they'd play a laugh track.
I remember your name. I remember your channel. You had Fear of Shadows up; my favorite!!
@@robertmaloney8069 Yep that's me.
When he gets mad or preachy,. he opens his mouth stupidly incredibly wide as he talks but the rest of his facial features stay totally still! It's bizarre-looking. Kinda makes me want to slap him.
I laughed at your comment, there's my share of the laugh track! LOL!
I'm on the moms side all of the way 👏👏👏
👍🏽💯
Me too she was a hundred percent right all the way!
@@XxowendanxX Yeah not only was it an immoral act, it was a highly unprofessional one!
Well, if I were going to do what they did (and that's a big "if"), I'd have been a *lot* more discreet about it. With Kate Lawrence as the Lady of the House, I wouldn't have awakened with Willie, then come into the kitchen with him in the morning if I knew how Kate felt about it. I'm just not that brazen. After "the deed" was done (again, IF I were going to do it), I'd have maybe hung out for a bit, and then as inconspicuously as possible, gone up to my own room for the rest of the night. But instead, they just come boldly waltzing into the kitchen together all bright-eyed and bushy-tailed first thing in the morning as if to say, "Good morning, everybody! We knocked boots 'til dawn and now we're starving...what's for breakfast?!" I'd have been mortified if they'd walked in on me at the fridge with nothing on but a big shirt like that.
@@ApartmentKing66 most normal people would have..Willie should have gone and gotten what they needed to begin with..they were very disrespectful to Kate and the rest of the family
This series taught many things. Among which was for adult children to be disrespectful and selfish. That guest house does not belong to Willie. My parents would never allow an unmarried child to sleep with a partner under their roof.
He is not paying rent
@Dawn taylor I can't believe kids like you. He's an "adult man who needs to live an adult life, he's not a child," yet he lives in HIS PARENTS' guesthouse, pays no rent, doesn't contribute in any visible way to the expenses of owning a house or property, therefore, is being SUPPORTED BY HIS FATHER in his early 20s, and you say it's "none of their business." Anything that goes on anywhere on my property is my business, kiddo. You must not have kids their age who do things you don't like in your home. Do you pay your own rent/mortgage, or are you still supported by your parents? I think I can guess which.
@@garnet0101 My mom never allowed that as well, get a job and pay rent.
Kate and Doug should really make willie get a real job do he can get his own place...the guest house is no place for Willie's cheap romance.
My parents wouldn’t have allowed it either. The grandkids, though…anything goes.
Kate would have done Willie a favor forcing him out! Dude needs to grow up
I really love these old shows a whole whole lot
Never put off to tomorrow what you can do today! YESSSS The best moment of the entire series.
I knew Dianne was cheating on Sam
hahaha love that one
Ha! Love the beginning. Could you imagine what it would be like if everyone in the house had to share the same smartphone today;)
I'm just loving these!! 😊. Please don't stop uploading them!!✌😄❤❤🌺🌺🙋🙋💖💖💕💕✌.
Memories flood my mind of the 70's when I see this show. Many good and nice to see finally a loving functional family!
Nancy and Willie had it made when it came to that "Guesthouse!" I would love a guesthouse.
renee braxton Yes, I always thought so too....must be nice. “Those were the days!”
More like a sexhouse, with all the fornication that was going on in there.
@@jaredjlinden ~ Yeah, between Willie and Nancy, that guesthouse saw a lot of action!
That was no guesthouse. That was a love shack, baby!
When I was a kid, I thought this show was a boring show with people driving station wagons. Now I see it was full of risque, innuendos, young girls, etc.
Yeah, I came to the "Family" party about 45 years late myself. I'd never seen an episode until about, I don't know, couple of weeks ago, maybe. I was never interested in it as a kid when it was on ABC in the mid-70s. My dad liked "Baretta" though. My classmates liked "Welcome Back, Kotter" and "Charlie's Angels," especially Farrah. All I ever heard in 5th grade was "Yoo gunna diiiiieee at recess," because they copied that one Sweathog (played by Robert Hegyes, I think) who always said that to Vinny Barbarino. To me, they were nothing but a bunch of losers on a shitty show (the characters, not the actors themselves).
I used to think the adult storylines are boring and that what was going on with Buddy, Audrey and their friends was interesting. Over forty years later, I still do.
l feel your _pain_ Kate. You are _RIGHT_ to be saddened.
Joining a sorority seems totally out of character for Buddy.
I thought so too
I never understood why all these ladies fall for Willie...
I dunno….blonde-haired and goofy?
And he lives with his parents, even though it’s the guest house. And why did Nancy live there too. Can’t these “kids” grow up and leave the house?
He wasn't cute,too skinny,goofy, bit pompous, ugly hair.
@@jessicaholland2830 The cottage was very nice. It seemed a good transition place between living with the parents and living in your own place. Nancy has her own apartment now so Willie moved in and eventually he'll move to his own apartment just in time for Buddy to take the cottage. It's a nice place and I can imagine living there.
He's ok looking. I like his curly hair. But I have always gone for dark hair. He reminds me of the comic strip character "Dustin" in his still living at home at his age, and his inability to stick to one job or career, just flitting from job to job. Unlike Willie though, Dustin can't get a date to save his life. Women like guys with jobs, not losers who can't even support themselves let alone a wife and potential children.
I just started watching these reruns. Never noticed how many actors or on the show while they were still wet behind the ears. Even the episode with who is now known as Data from Star trek. Just like watching episodes of The twilight zone and actors getting their start who became very famous.
Geez Doug - support your wife at some point 😂
Sada was right, Willie had no respect for her or others in the family..letting a lady walk in half naked getting him food ..absurd!
I.would have thrown her right out the door.. lol
Exactly
Got that right and Willie to I tolerate no disrespect I put my own adult son out for being disrespectful and his dad agreed with me.
Kate was pretty calm, I’d have asked my “ friend “ to get the hell out ! sleeping with my son ?! What kind of guest does that ?! 🙈😂
Trash.
Was a little brazen and she raids the fridge “because Willie is hungry”, seriously. I would be mortified to be caught by the parents and being a guest, not that I would do that, but the whole thing was very brazen.
I have enjoyed this show. I am glad the episodes were posted on YT. I remember watching this show a couple of times when it was on TV. I loved Sada then. I couldn't watch it every week. The school bus picked me up at 6:30 a.m. There was no way I could watch a 10:00 p.m. show until 11:00 and get up on time.
I've watched three episodes now with Kate having troubles. She was harassed by a student ,harassed by a teacher and now in deep with Willie. She is having the worst week ever. Willie needs to get a life, move out and grow up. Audrey....lets just say she needs to stop being so ....needy.
Awesome rare episode! Thanks so much for posting.🙄☺
It's hard to get them in sequence. But I love them, thank you!
I tried to at least watch all the ones from ‘76 first, but after that I gave up.
@@trainer1158 They are all in sequence, except for a few
Not for me. They’re all mixed up.
@@SnazzyDetritus
Oh my gawd this brought back memories lol..I mean the phone that is..can you get off I need it 🤭
Same :-)
Never heard of a sorority in HS before .
I think this episode is too progressive even now in 2020. Who would do that... sleep with the son of the woman who invited you into her home to practice for a music recital and expect her to be okay with it?!
Agreed!! Very rude!
Yeah that was tacky and disrespectful to her hostess!
Pretty grotty I agree.
YES extremely disrespectful to Kate
Where have you been? That is nothing! I've seen worst cases in the news. It usually leads to a bad event or worse.
The harp hit the fan. I love Kate.
It would cool if they had a reunion special and the surviving cast members shared their memories.
Yeah, but sadly would not be with the parents.
There was a reunion planned in 1988, but it was killed by the Writer's Strike. Sada would have been apart of it, as she was still with us at that time. I'm not too sure if Elaine Heilveil, the actress who originated the role of Nancy would have been.
Here is the issue here: Neither parent saw an issue with Nancy having relations with any of her men in that same guesthouse (although they did in the episode that led to her finally getting her own apartment).
With this said, I also see Kate and Doug’s point of view. It IS their home. Willie pays no rent, no bills, buys no groceries. So it’s their house rules. And like Nancy, if he he can’t live by those rules, he can chose to find his own place to live.
Exactly.... His behaviour towards both of his parents was appalling.. In 1979 or 2019. Ugh
Willie had a big willy.
Ted Ozdowski 😬
Kate was protective of Annie. Annie was wise to what was going on and Kate didn't want her exposed to that. It's different than the half a dozen guys Nancy was screwing in the guest house, Buddy was little and she was oblivious to that.
Slight correction: while it's indisputable that Nancy was using the guesthouse as her "love nest," as Willie did, in the episode where Nancy got her own place, she wasn't boinking the guy that night, they were actually working on some brief until he left.
Buddies jealous friend is just too much.
Xanthas71 Thank you for the time and effort!
Miss this show😣
I agree Buddy should join the sorority without hesitation or guilt. She should have that college experience. Audrey cannot be her ball and chain like in high school.
I'm slowly getting drawn in to the hate Audrey camp.
@@XxowendanxX Yeah, her self-absorption is getting on my nerves.
Audrey needs to leave Buddy alone and support her friend!
Because I don't believe in sororities and their exclusionary character, I actually thought the episode would end with Buddy staying loyal to Audrey. Granted, Audrey was a bit whiny, but that doesn't justify joining such an institution.
Since when do high schools have soriorities?
0:29, I can't believe she opened her letter at the box then stuck the trash and other letters in the box and only brought her letter back to the house! 🤣🤣 WTF!
Why not get a motel room? Kate said she prefered that they did.
...Willie & the young lady should've exercised some discretion if not restraint.
Justin Aames it’s fiction
@@shelley6477 ...Ya think?
Justin Aames nice way to “exercise restraint”
@@shelley6477 ...There's a block/mute function. Please use it, I already have...So long.✋
I seem to remember though that Nancy had more than one or two guys stay in the guest house with her. Kate never told her not to.
I would never have gotten away with the way these kids talk to the parents on this show, and if you want to be treated as an adult and live in the guest house than buy your own food at least, you send your sex partner over in your parent's kitchen wearing nothing but your shirt to get some food, well only on tv would the parents have to apologize for not being hip enough, lol
Kate and Doug are so terrified to have their kids move out and move on that she is willing to have her adult son disrespect and abuse her
Kind of like the Ewing boys treated Miss Ellie and Jock on Dallas.
@@hoagie1978 kind of how Timmy treats his diapers
Kate is like Bobby Ewing, they both throw fits when they don't get their way and cant control people
yay for Kate! she FINALLY stood up to her bratty son. and screw Doug for telling her to back down!
This episode makes me flipping mad. From Audrey sniveling at Buddy and giving her ultimatums, to dumb cluck clumsy annoying Shelley Long refusing to understand and admit that her behavior was disrespectful to Kate, to bratty Willie acting spoiled and entitled as usual, to Doug having the balls to tell Kate that Willie "can't back down, unfortunately" and she is going to have to.....there's enough in this episode to make me want to spit nails .
Agree with you about what trash Willie and Diane are, disagree about dear Audrey
Monica girl, don't skip out on a "Bette Davis Double Feature!"
Lots of wrongs here, but I blamed Joan the most. As a guest in Kate's house, she pushed a relationship on Willy. Though he isn't without blame, some respect was due Kate and the rest of the household and he and Joan went too far, too soon. So says this dinosaur. Kate is a better and more forgiving woman than I am.
Willie needed to tell her to wait until the recital was over and then they could go out on a date properly. Horrible behaviour from both of them.
She should’ve stuck to her guns… Kate… A little too forgiving to the mooching son
(29:11) Crocodile tears...She should've considered all that BEFORE she hopped into bed with her son...in her friends own home. Willie's even worse for disrespecting his parents home.👍🏽💯🤔
Justin Aames it’s fiction
@@shelley6477 ...Ya think?
i agree-if Willie doesnt like it get your own love nest away from mom and dad
Correct!
If he rents the Guest House. His activity is none of their business.
The problem with Willie here is that, he wants it both ways. They should absolutely Not go into Kate's kitchen, half dressed and take food to top it off. What nerve. He says his house, okay, but the kitchen in the main home is not "his" house. The writing here is off for Willie's character. Later episodes often have the characters doing things and saying things that are just Not them.
And expecting Kate to cook pancakes and bacon
"The harp hit the fan" :D
I miss this generation gap discussion and dynamic.
We lack for old fashioned values....
Oh, Jesus, here we go.....yaaaawwwwwwn....
Thank you so much Xanthas71!!❤❤✌✌🎈🇺🇸🥂🎶
Watching as a mom of boys is sure different than watching this as a young girl in the 70’s.
Why put off until tomorrow...? I quite agree.
👍🏽💯😊
did anyone else's high school have sororities? i thought they were only in college
I haven't heard of them in high school, ever.
Not in my house! This is one thing my parents would not allow. Trends and times change but they should never have expected others to accept what they do. Willie talked about being a man but not secure enough to have his own house paying his own bills, living off his parents but expecting the privileges of an adult. Casual sex has been one of the reasons for so many disappointed people. If Joan had her own place, why was she there in the first place and why didn't they just go to her place when asked to behave. This may have just been a story but happens a lot.
She didn't live close enough to pop over to her place, that's why she was staying the night. But just because Kate liked her enough to have a music performance, don't mean she liked her enough for her son, even just casually.
I agree. A visiting boyfriend/girlfriend should sleep on the spare bed and not with their partners.
Audrey was always jealous of Buddy!
All of these intense moral debates in the comments and not one person has said it. It's Diane from CHEERS!!!!
I couldn't help noticing Carol from the Brady Bunch Movies.
Someone did mention Diane cheating on Sam - Cheers reference haha.
Actually, it has been alluded to, but I think it's because everybody already knows and chose not to celebrate the obvious like you just did.
Lol! That was funny.
Does the guest house have a fridge, Or no one uses it😁?
Thank you..it has to have a refrigerated..this was just put in for the storyline OR maybe Willie doesn't keep his stocked bc he's always eating from the main house..whatever
Just thinking about him mentioning going to the movies ... no VCRs
no screaming - movies were a big deal still even old ones
I always thought Willie was in his 30's during the series.
Why did people drink coffee all day and night back then? 2 consenting adults Im all for but WOW...who jumps in bed with a virtual stranger? I did love this show back in the day.
Seriously… Coffee with lunch. Coffee after dinner. Coffee at three pm.
Better then smoking weed are vaping
... It's much worse now. Most of my younger co-workers (I'm 43 and ancient) drink coffee all day long just to stay awake. They also spend lots of money buying it instead of making their own.
@@bryanferguson4280 ...This is true.
I agree on both counts.... The coffee madness and the quick hook up between the Harp lady and Willie... But then again it was pre Aids, and I guess what they say about the Swingin' Seventies is true... Lol, I just remembered the character Larry, from three's company, and his cheesy pickup lines at the
Reagle Beagle.... Cringe worthy!
I think Willie and Joan were way out of line here. First of all, the house (including the guest house) belongs to Doug and Kate….not to Willie; and as the owners of the property as well as the parents, they have every rite to set the rules for what goes on and what doesn’t on their property! The way Willie spoke to his parents should have earned him a boot in the ass and an eviction from the property!
As far as Audrey, she’s a horrible friend to Buddy! She’s self centered and childish! Instead of being happy for Buddy and congratulating her, she selfishly gave Buddy an unrealistic ultimatum. I’m glad Buddy finally had that talk with her, and I’m glad that Audrey finally realized she was in the wrong.
Annie is a very worldly child.
She's too grown
That’s crazy! Meet and sleep together same day. Weird! Glad I missed that episode.
Audrey always played the victim. Joan betrayed Kate by sleeping with Willie.
Such a great show!
It is on their property. Was Willie paying rent? I could only live in someone's guesthouse if i was paying rent.
The show in itself is a learning lesson. It’s about discussion, learning and communication.
I can’t believe l use to watch this as a child but it was normal to me people sleeping together. I seen a lot with people in my family. But l still love this show l always loved the mother. I wanted her as a mum. I just wanted a family like this.
Me too
Kate, you say "Brava" to a woman and "Bravo" to a man!
The writers always seem to make Kate so cultured with her love of the performing arts. I like to think she would know to shout "Brava!"
You read my mind.
Willy sleeps with everybody! And Shelly Long kissed him after they knew each other for five minutes. No build up. And that was ridiculous that she raided Kate's fridge like a teenager. If Willy is so grown up, why doesn't he have his own food.
Well, the producers named his character "Willy", which adds up and makes perfect sense. 😅
Kate was right on and Willie is disrespectful
kate is right...leave
Great writers on this show
I just despised Buddy and Joan's behavior in this episode. Kate, on the other hand, is a model Mom.
Buddy had every right to be mad! She should cuss Audrey out but Buddy never cusses.
Joan really came on to Willy. What’s a man to do??
Joan was totally throwing herself at Willie. Just sayin'....
Audrey always kills me when she cries 😂
Willie was such an F-boi. LOL
I don’t think Kate needs to back down. Willie wasn’t paying rent
Even if he is paying rent, that was his mother's guest. He should have at least waited until the two of them had their recital and then he could have called the girl and asked for a date. I doubt anybody would have had a problem with that.
He should have his own place he's an adult
Kind of like Grant Goodeve's character David Bradford on Eight is Enough. Too old to be staying with Mom and Dad.
@@Iworkwithnitwits David had his own apartment throughout the show. Mary still lived at home but she was in med school so that made sense. Joanie, Susan and Nancy were all living at home when they should have moved out. They were most like Willie in that sense.
But they weren't bringing an endless parade of men in.
The walton kids stayed at home...
@@yosemite735 It was the depression/WW2 and they were pretty poor.
Lol I agree guys but there are VERY FEW families that actually do like one another as people and rather have their kids stay at the family home until they do get married. I hope my son stays with us till he’s married cuz he’s my only and well the way the world is now I rather my son still be at home ashen he’s an adult than struggle like I’ve seen ALOT of young adults struggle.
Joan is quite friendly 💕
Yeah too friendly.
@@Hunny1au Lol
Clumsy too.🤣
Yeah, she had the hots for Willie the minute she saw him and his nice little body.
We have seen how much happiness casual sex gives, both to society and personal.
It was when she came in the kitchen to get snacks out of the main house when I agreed with mom
Why doesn't Audrey's mother ever help her be more thoughtful, less selfish, more mature for her age?
Kate should have never backed down. I would have let Willie and his concubine go.
She didn't back down. She re-stated her opinion but she left the door open to still have a relationship with her son and she even played in the recital with that rude inconsiderate girl.
Look at Mrs Lawrence pimpin out Willie!!😂😂🤣
Kate was right!
👍🏽...This is true.
@Blue Butterfly I didn't like her too much when I was a kid watching this, but I love her now. She isn't always right. They are all pretty flawed humans. Like all of us.
Love Willie's Harpo Marx impression.
@4:27
It's starting to look like Harpo suggested staying over at the house specifically to make her moves on Willie!!
Oh Diane, I am SO disappointed.
What would Sam and Frasier think??
"To Thine Ownself be True. "
In the context of the play it's a mere platitude uttered by the most superficial character.
What an example Willie is showing to Buddy and Annie! Shame on him!
It’s odd to see the characters from this show with people I’ve only seen as older, then realize they are the same age now.