POE 3.23 - Affliction Broke Trade - Making Currency When Everything Is Worthless - Path of Exile
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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What happens when ten or twenty thousand players get ten to a hundred times more loot than usual in a league, due to a really broken magic find strategy?
(Almost) everything they mass produce falls in value - but things they don't farm get bid up up up in price.
The Squire was half the price of a Tainted Oil two days before I posted this, and at the time of posting, was 20 chaos cheaper than the Tainted Oil. In most leagues, someone with a Squire would be getting a bad deal if they accepted 50 tainted oils for it in trade.
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I'd say economy is what it should be.... Why should only top 1% get to have all the loot and currency when the rest of us get by on scraps? This league is the most fun I've ever had and easiest to make currency and gear
There’s no advantages in poe such as the real life 1%ers may get. We all start with nothing. If you push the same buttons as the 1%ers in poe youll have the same stuff lol
If you play a game more then 1hour a week you Will get enough currency for any non-mirror tier build every league with no problem. Just for understanding If you have 100 sad faces in this league the "1%" already have 10 mirrors. Thats how inflation works. You think you are rich but you not
Agreed 100%. I can play 5-7 hours a week and actually get some cool stuff in SSF
Well unfortunately, the 1% is bathing in mirrors and everyone else is still getting the scraps in the form of worthless t1-t0 drops. At least this allows people to freely try different builds without much time/currency investment.
@@marshmahalo808i don't mind, this league seems to bring us more close to the rich people, farm essence one week and then here is your headhunter or your MB, I don't get it why the distance between us and the 1% should be so huge, this is the most balanced league I've played ever, my friends are all casuals, and they all got a bunch of good build that they would probably play 3 months league to get to this level and then they will quit, cause they are tired of playing so much, but this league? They are all reroling into other builds trying things, my friend used 10 divines in a cluster to get perfect roll, he would never be able to do that last league without feeling that he waste his whole week of farming
What's nice about this amount of currency generation is that in SSF I don't feel bad for spending 4 divines crafting an item I'll use for a few weeks
Whats nice about sc trade this league is i dont feel bad about spending 50 div on like my boot slot 😂
What's nice about sc trade this league is I don't feel bad about missing 4 awakened empower double corrupts in a row. Lol.
whats nice about this amount of currency generation is that in sc trade you can make money doing literally anything because everything is expensive and its awesome.
When playing SSF, you should just completely disregard an economic value of currency items. Even in leagues where Divine orbs are insanely valuable, it's value on SSF is determined by what it can do and what you can craft with it.
This has been the nest league for me ever. I usually ever make 2-4 divines before i get bored and quit (week 3 or 4) but these league ive made the most ive ever made (10div so far) and its probably the first time ive finished the atlas and im even thinking of beating all the bosses myself for once in my life. 10/10 league for me and im having tons of fun.
yeah, i also think this is peak POE, hope next league isnt a snooze fest
I'm sorry what? You make 2-4 div in 3 or 4 weeks? How are you that poor every league? Skill/Knowledge issue?
@@HamptonHyundaiFortWaltonBeachCould be a time issue. Who are you to judge? Should I assume you have no life? Not at all.
@@edgewizz862 that is asking not judging, there is a difference. also i used to be like him making 2-4 exalt per league (8-9 leagues ago), most of the times i didn't even had a 6 link but the reason was AFKing a lot and not having knowledge (also game wasn't as juicy in drops like past 4-5 leagues). nowdays you can easily make 40c to 50c per hour in a T1 map by just going white (not even alching) and farming essences even if you are not fast and leaving the map.
don't make foolish excuses and hinder yourself from enjoying making currency, specially this league. throw that mindset out of the window.
I can name you 10 alch and go strategies to make at least 50c per hour minimum if you do it right and not afk. all you need is 2 hours per day and at the end of the week 1 you can have a character that can farm T16 maps fairy good. if you have to be afk, you can start to learn how to craft items / clusters, check the popular builds and items for their builds and just youtube it's craft, learn, craft, sell, profit. you can be afk this way.
@@edgewizz862 i mean i work a a 10-12 hour a day job 4-6 days a week and still print mirrors every league... this league i havnt magic found or anything, just the normal old crimson temple strat and jungle valley altars and have about 800div liquid only cause im stubborn, if i did essenses in tier1maps for the same amount of time id have triple or more of my currency... being incompetent/lazy/not dedicated/very easily distracted is the only real reason to be poor.
Reason tainted oils are that expensive is because of Eyes of the Greatwolf amulet. that amulet is corrupted and needs tainted oils to be anointed and since everyone is running MF, they want a quant EotGW for their build, also not many people doing blighted maps because of MFing.
EotG kinda blows compared to Simplex tho
@@forcefulstorm6187 this was just about to say this !! Simplex bud is bis lol greatwolf is major used in zombies and energyblade now days man
@@forcefulstorm6187 not wrong but there’s definitely a price gap between the two lol
@@forcefulstorm6187 one is 20 div, the other is a mirror
@@KuramasaXPfor him doesnt matter he can just play credit card sweep build
i wonder if they're eyeing Affliction to replace Delirium. Delirium, especially visible this league, is a performance nightmare, visually unappealing, and mechanically dull. Affliction fills the same juicing concept (albeit overtuned in every way which they'd fixed later) but is more interesting, engaging, creative, and not a performance shit show.
also, thank you trade for deciding tainted oils were 3.3 divine around the time i had already bought my original one for like 30c and then had 4 to sell thanks to running blight-ravaged maps. that was cool :D.
Yeah, even though I enjoy delirium, the black and white depressing look is just that - depressing.
@@SWTORDREKKIN ye, remove delirium and redesign simulacrum. 30 waves is fucking ridiculous, especially when first half of them is low-tier content.
Make it 10 waves but you start on wave 21. Pinnacle content drop, this could be included in ritual or expedition to get the splinters.
i can definitely see how affliction is similar to deli, and i wouldn't be surprised if affliction replaces delirium in a few leagues, however deli has notable advantages compared to affliction, like the ease of walking in a mirror compared to the trouble of clearing the forest, and the ability to remove the deli encounter when you feel like it as opposed to the permanent wisp juice on mobs
@@Fyozzz all true. but i don't think they think of league replacement from the perspective of "will this make the same people happy", they just think "will the game be in general better" and considering Affliction looks better, is more detailed yet till followable, and most importantly, doesn't cause massive visual problems... i'm thinking they're gonna do some tweaks for full implementation and call it good. They definitely aren't afraid of mechanics that let the player fuck themselves over... even though they probably should be.
@@CouchOwner2 only thing cool about affliction is decendency. the rest of it is hot dogshit.
I understand a lot of people in the upper mid range arent enjoying the league. As a mid range player I've been having a great time. I haven't made this many builds since ritual. Want to try arakaalis/squire? Can do it for cheap now and see if its worth playing in the future. Ive tried several transfigured gems, respecced multiple times experimenting. All for a few divines total. Since i dont really engage with the economy at a high level it has been amazing for someone like me. That said, i havent been doing MF and have been playing ritual/blight a lot and barely touch the wildwood... So as far as a league mechanic goes, i guess yeah its not a great league since ive stopped engaging with it once i have my ascendancy points.
We basically test a lot of things in the game for free. Win win tbh.
Doesn't it just feel like playing with cheat codes on though? That's kind of how I feel. Sure it's nice to have some more currency. But killing an uber boss doesn't even feel like an achievement anymore, you know?
@@triangle1332 yeah sort of. Next league is gonna be a drag for sure. But every now and then we get a stupidly rewarding league that we get to play around in. Last time I remember this was ritual. I maxed out my characters in that league because of the crazy harvest power.
This league has been awesome for me because I needed Badge and Ralakesh's for my Sanctum runner. Also Forbidden Tomes despite being rarer are dirt cheap and even on the lower levels I get my investment back plus some, and I get to focus on a league mechanic that I love. Honestly feels like a win win.
they drop pretty damn often if you go zoomzoom (i have like 40 of them that i didn't sell because i thought its not worth selling for 20c)
Bruh being able to run sactum right now is the easiest money ive ever made. Shit is wild how level 83 tome is 10c and you get that back within the first floor usually
Did they make it harder or easier or it's the same as last league?
@davidmaltais2912 nothing has changed about the difficulty they just made tomes more rare but since so many people are doing MF strats the market is flooded with max level tomes for dirt cheap
@@davidmaltais2912 The tomes are a fair bit rarer than before. However cos all the juicers are dropping so much shit, this hasn't really been felt yet. Next league will definitely be less rewarding than this one, so it'll likely only be felt then.
I feel like the economy is actually really, really normal if you consider chaos/divines to be half their normal value and uniques to be 1/4 or less their normal value. The economy looks "broken" but in terms of farming time it seems pretty consistent. if you're asking how many legions you need to clear to get the emblems that trade for the essences you need, or how many maven invitations you need to run to trade for an Aisling, then the numbers roughly line up with a typical league. The crafters who are getting paid in divines and not charging double for their time are getting screwed, and cheap metamods have an interesting impact on mid-high level gear cost, but for everyone else, time grinding translates to a similar amount of spending power.
Personally, I found last league's economy to be much harder to break into. Since most currency was being made through sanctum, which didn't require anything else to run, it made it feel like all other strats were actually useless. It pushed me out of the league earlier than I wanted.
I think the biggest issue this league actually is that any build that accidentally finds itself wanting to use an item that Magic Find builds want are being completely priced out without any hope to acquire that item through trade.
The good thing is as a new non rich player this legue I manage to do my first metamod crafting for a cool Bow
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I'm a delver and have been since delve, the delve fractures, resonators and 10-stacks of sextants are making me ridiculous sums of money right now. 3chaos per prim resonator and 6 per sextant. The sextants at the very least are getting more and more valuable as time goes on.
By ridiculous meaning how much per hour?
zig when the market zags, what a league. i like that even though divs are being printed at insane levels, theres still a healthy economy around it. lots of fun builds to make and the money to build them.
Meanwhile I haven't seen more than 3 divines the entire league. This is fucked. I'm doing the mechanic as intended and playing how people recommend, but I haven't seen shit for currency. I don't know if I just have the worst luck or what, but this is utter bullshit.
If you get 2k juice of each color and get rares with high innate rarity and quantity such as the ones from beyond or abyss, there's a high likelihood of you seeing a divine drop.
@@b0nes95 I'm so far behind now that I'm just gonna quit this league. It's not fun to be this unlucky or this far behind, particularly when the league economy is FUBAR. I'm not wanting mirrors and divines to drop like candy around me, I just want to feel like I'm making progress, and right now I don't and it feels awful to play.
skill issue@@Leodigarius
This video is a great window into economics in any game or in any place. Supply and demand is a hell of a thing, and we have real world cases of this all over history. Gold rings with huge diamonds are worth dramatically less than a loaf of bread when you're starving.
Everybody out here printing magebloods but all of of your divines mean nothing when you dont have essences and annuls to craft with or Aislings to slam on. How will you Annul with all of your Divines?
On the flipside I can now afford a crystallized omniscience, decent, non-corrupt, 9D.
When economies get hyper inflated like this crafting materials become insanely profitable. If yaw can’t run gigga juiced mf maps then just farm harvest/ess roll maps ez and go for speed. You can to still make lots of money this way.
As a crafter in PoE I can attest to the prices of crafting mats. Essences are almost triple the amount they were last league and good fossils are nearly double than before. In terms for oils for blighted runners like myself Silvers are legit triple than they were before while gold is only about 30% extra than before or a little more depending on the day. So honestly this league in normal maps i'm just running essence on my atlas passive so I can save some money crafting.
It seems like this league is the one most divisive ones we've had for a relatively simple mechanic (at least on trade).
There's a big gap between those loving the loot explosions and cheap uniques vs those who don't enjoy MF and are dealing with a broken economy.
Probably one of the best leagues ever for my SSF Bros though as it feels like almost anything is farmable.
Yeah, agree it's polarizing.
Absolutely bottom of the 3.X leagues for me. 24th out of 24, and it's not close.
I did get sick early and missing a lot of weeks 1-2 does often poison against a league (e.g. 3.7 I had massive tech issues days 5-14 that kinda wrecked the league for me) but let's put it this way - I'm glad I have a few side projects saved up for a dumpster tier league. Because they'll be needed.
@@sirgog dumpster tier ? Everyone wanted a mapping league and we have it. You don’t need to mf in the slightest. Just play the game, what’s not to like ? The economy is shaken up, but on the positive side- some new players can actually build around a squire for once, or buy a mageblood on week 1 rather than last week of the league. Or simple things like dropping 10 divines when last league total they made 5 div.
It’s on content creators to show the access to these things and stay positive. There are many builds to play that can have these drops, not just mf ts that gets a squire a map on the ultra high end. (1% of the 1%)
Just saying the angle here, as a content creator could be “ hey new players who can’t run 8k juice 8mod corrupt maps… BLIGHT !! “
@@HeshingtonMugabi eh, I'll take Standard over an in map event that makes the game worse. Engage with it and it's bad. Don't engage with it and your maps give no loot - one per five thousand map drops like Unnatural Instinct are no longer exciting.
Changes to availability can be positive, but they should be swaps. Why not make Squire/Arakaali accessible but at the same time make something else like Void Battery chase, so there's still a chance to get a good drop?
As it is, if you don't Abyss MF, killing monsters doesn't provide loot other than divines, mirrors/MB/HH (which you prob won't see) and the Valdo boxes and Voidkeys. Last league there were also a couple dozen other big drops.
I think it was the Ancestral Vision drop (first time that's dropped for me) that was the moment I realised how bad this league was. 44c for a usually semi chase item.
One thing this league really brings to light is the performance issues when you juice too hard.
This league is my first time getting HH, MB and a mirror! Loving this league.
Boss items are also expensive af. Even the right shapers touch corruptions are worth several divines, not to speak of 2 or even 3 Stat watchers (unidentified!)
another economy issue i think is that the valdo puzzle box has cratered the cost of some chase items like Stasis Prison or Hateforge
TBH I don't mind changes in which items are and are not rare (hadn't noticed Hateforge until you pointed it out). We've seen this on drop anywheres too - Asenath's Gentle Touch was chase for a while, then had its drop rate buffed from T1 to T3 in Kalandra, and now is a middle tier unique.
It's just... having SOME chase items that can drop in normal gameplay. There's now only 3 drop-anywhere chase items, down from 5+ last league
yeah like magebloods are ~190 this league and if you search for them on trade basically all of the listings are foil
@@lilypadsy i got my mageblood early, and am rather happy it is cheap. I usually have to play and trade like a degenerate for weeks to get it, by that time I am burnt out and quit shortly after. I have got to enjoy more builds earlier then I would have ever had if it was 300 divine.
@@sirgog They should buff all T0 uniques to justify the droprates. Most of the T0 are rare but arguably not chase worthy. They should also either add kingmaker to the global pool, since soultaker being a T0 and a requirement makes no sense, or move soul taker to t1 rarity. Even outside of this league 75% or more of the t0 drops are just pretty mid at best.
You can thank Captain Lance for that.. Was pretty much his mission@@lilypadsy
This league economy is completely crazy.
Simply could not afford to buy my best in slot amulet for my golem build and that really killed any desire to push it any further than I usually do. The effort required to get that extra 30 divs is simply not worth my time.
Typically I take the build to 100 most leagues, but with the price of non mapping stuff I just can't be bothered.
Maybe I should be looking at a squire build.
It's really not that crazy. Stuff that comes from maps, including uniques from key's, are cheap. Stuff from bosses and league mechanics (ie not from maps) are expensive.
I’m running delve for this reason, some massive currency for barely any effort
Finding a t0 uniqie has never been less exciting, but wanting to make a build that needs one has never been easier
Personally, it became really boring really fast for me. Whatever else you farming is not efficient versus just running maps with mf.
Yeah, it's a near zero loot league, because things that used to be loot are now nerfed into non-loot by being so common.
Worst 3.X league, IMO. Would appreciate GGG running a Standard-parented event that allows progress on Affliction challenges.
I agree, i wonder if we may get another archnemesis after this fiasco. I started doing Boss inv farming with essence and heist. It atleast provides the Market with stuff rich crafters need and me a Chance at big loot in heist (simplex)
Dropped a squire yesterday. My rarest drop so far in all my leauges... Yeah kinda sad.
@@sirgog"3.X"?
@@stefanbauer423 3.0 through 3.23
I See Brothers is 2.5 times common to apothecary from stacked decks 600K sample.
Delve, essence, harvest and simulacrum are other good ways to make currency. I Could never grind simulacrum as that's just too boring but it is probably the most lucrative it has ever been. The rest I have done though and especially delve has been pretty solid, with the new adorned jewel the vaal boss got even more valuable and fossils are also incredibly expensive, shuddering and perfect are like 6-8 for a divine and you sometimes get nearly that much from a single fractured wall.
I've barely done any of the farming methods using the league mechanic and I'm running no mf gear and this is still the league i've made by far the most currency, even if I don't count my first ever mirror drop(sold early for 380 div so I could buy a power charge synth ring base) and 2 simplex amulets(first got me 30 div but second got me 800).
Invitation farming is also solid, I was alternating between the various invitations depending on what maps I had, and also did uber bosses witnesses so I could do feared.
I dont know if I agree, This league I was richest ever on softcore trade. Did not drop anything crazy like mirror or HH, simply did mapping and bosses. Maven writs are extremely good money
This is more effected by meta than anything. Arakalis fang was worth a ton compared to after div cards came out. HH officially was worth more than mageblood for weeks due to characters needing player power to combat the wisped monsters.
Oils are up for greatwolf amulets only. And boss entry sets/writs are up because there is a influx of mappers over bossing PLUS more boss items nerfed. Also progenesis is at HC prices in SC again because of needing player power/survivability from the new monster buffs from wisps.
Fracturing orbs are up because of the new heist item. The ring is a prime target and people want bows more than ever
Also unID ventors are worth money even with a huge MFing surge. Mechanics drive markets and we finally have a mechanic that influences your mapping (like sentinels) and arent boring separate events like sanctum,kalandra and tota. WE MISS MAPPING
Someone finds interesting having monsters with new taint of paint, and someone finds it boring as F... all depends on person, i prefer best of 2 worlds Mechanics that are separate events in maps that ain't a progression crawler.
I was able to afford to buy HH this league and never before. This league is much more fun for casual players who never get to try "high end" mechanics. I've never used sextants / scarabs to run my maps and this time - i can sustain them myself and try this content. I can even craft with all the currency that drops.
I think that's a case of this being the league where you stopped being remotely casual. For me, the equivalent was 3.3 - a league where I settled into a very solid farming niche (buying T14 maps for 5-7c, running them, selling all T16s that dropped for 30c). Went from being a '10 exalt a league' player to having Headhunter and a bunch over. My 'trick', if you like, was using the right Kirac mod, Bloodlines, on every map.
That wasn't really about the league - it was the mindset. Had I stopped being casual-minded in 3.2 or 3.1, those would have been leagues I remember like 3.3.
Going from non-scarab non-sextant mapping to a cohesive strategy is a huge level-up in your gameplay, and would have got you Headhunter in a different league too.
I am doing simulacrums. You want that ilvl 84 cluster, or that sweet sweet int str split personality? Then I got you covered. My bro is farming the hell out of harbinger drops.
this is the league to buy any uniques you are missing on standard in the unique stash tab, hateforge is only 10-12 div.
I think Hateforge is down for good now. It's Valdo maps that is decisive for that item. Stasis Prison as well (20d)
Ya, I find it very hard to enjoy drops if I feel everyone is getting them easy. When currency becomes so less valuable it does not feel very good. The problem is how absurdly it scales. Nothing wrong with better chance of Jeweler Orbs or Orbs of fusing, maybe get and extra 1 or 2 divines, but getting 5-10X on a drop is absurd. Tempering orbs are not even reaching 1 Div yet, and we are almost in our 4th week, normally they are 3-4 Divine by now. I lost a ton of currency in the first day of the league due to this.
saw the forbidden flame/flesh jewel i need going from 10div to 100div and from 120divs to 400+divs respectively in 1week and a half...
I see absolutely nothing wrong with great items being more accessible to the average player!
Unfortunately there is a long term downside. If future league rewards aren’t equal to this league people won’t continue playing. Imagine the average player farming 20div a week this league but next league they can only get 5div per week. They get frustrated and quit 2 weeks in. Same happens next league and now they don’t want to return.
thats fine u shouldn't cater to fomo cause those players will leave anyways. it goes both ways@@Rsb-mj7ic
@@Rsb-mj7ic I see what your saying but I think more players drop from leagues because of hitting the wall because lack of currency and gear then leaving because they have more then needed.
honestly if you want easy money straight up ignore the league mechanic and spam farm harvest essence all you need is pack size of course this works with the league mechanic but harvest mobs and essences get rough on high tier maps with the juice
Magic find is the cancer of this game and like actual cancer, it is not going anywhere.
I accidentally meant to juice my map up and died in the wildwood with 2k juice. I also forgot to put my 3 void stones in. And the best part is, I dropped a mirror with no magic gear which had helped fund my third character now I’m still thinking of doing two more characters. I’ve only ever had jewellers bombs and augmentation bombs but it’s been a great league. I love playing with all the new gems
I think being showered in loot isn't good longterm, like I just don't care when I see a divine drop anymore. But the being showered in loot isn't whats kept me playing. Infact, having 10 million items on the floor is actually a negative.
What's kept me playing is this is the first time PoE has had that "just 1 more map" feeling. Maybe next map I'll get a mirror, HH, MB, Lootsplosion. I feel like I'm magic finding not just grinding and that dopamine chase is what keeps me playing.
If basic loot went back to exactly as it was before. But T0s, Mirrors, Lootsplosion chance was the same as it is now I would MF every league. Having those things raised to the point where it feels a normal player might actually see them is so positive for the game. Does this increase the supply? Yes. but if more people actually want to MF, then the demand for these items dramatically increases and that offsets the increased supply so they still remain valuable.
Also, people are acting like everyones getting 10 MBs/HHs/Mirrors. I've had 1 Mirror, which was insanely lucky. Nobody in my friends has hit a T0/Mirror, 2 of them have had 1 lootsplosion. These things aren't that common, there just common enough that you feel like you might get one of them.
My wishlist:
- Remove all MF gear
- Stop doing multiplicative quant scaling
- Stop currency upgrade from archnemesis
- Shift unique rarities downwards to compensate
play ruthless@
Mirror drop this league is not lucky, it's a matter of time for everyone (barring a few very unlucky individuals) if you are juicing and running MF.
@@foxxxooo I mean, Ziz and Steel duo hasn't had a mirror. They play 24/7. Raxx, hasn't had a mirror he plays 24/7.
Most people still haven't had a mirror.
@@Fitsuuu Like I said, it's a matter of time if you keep at it and keep juicing
Hardcore trade is also goofy af rn, lvl 1 enlighten is 10 divs, just farming lab and delve and I made enough for all the expensive items for my build 😊
Tainted oil is usually around 1 div, sometimes cheaper but it's not typical to pay 20c for it. Don't expect it because at this price it's not profitable to corrupt your maps(corrupting rolls down maps on avg).
Ravaged maps drop 20-30, div/h and you can do it with 50-70 div build with 100% success
Ravaged maps should be doable with 2-3% fail rate on a VERY cheap build too (literally just an ignite elementalist with the Obliteration wand or Asenath gloves and two of the top ring enchants). Although taint oils drop from non-ravaged maps as well, if corrupt.
@@sirgog I mean you can definitely clear ravaged maps day 1, DD is rather a poor tool cuz of shitty defensive layers and if you want to run corrupted maps you either need to have like 20m dps or be facetanking leaking bosses.
I mean it's not difficult content, but if you want to maximize profits few things need to be done. Losing is not an option even at 3%
i don't tend to play leagues beyond the first 3 weeks so this one is super fun for me getting to try everything immediately
Good insights, as always! Huh, just saw that you are uploading in 4K? Really? To the topic: I like the "PoE-thing" of niche economies and the reluctance of GGG to rebalance every OP-strategy within days. Let the MF-dudes feel powerful with their 'tricks'.
Just wish it wasn't always MF... like can we have a league where MF is actually dumpster tier for once?
@@sirgog Right. Alternatives? maybe "rarity is lucky" replaces all, stat without crafting-tags like "+1 to all sill gems"?
i've been farming blight, didn't know tainted oils only droped if map is corrupted 😔
Economy is completely broken, main reason i got bored of this league so early. Today i gambled my 2 mirrors in aphotecary cards and im out for a break. I like league mechanics that put currency in all players , like tota last league, but not a mechanic that completely breaks balance. Hopefully next league they will do a better job.
There are also other strats you could do like Heist. The updated rare amulet bases are very valuable and you can split them and get the profit twice.
Also if you are willing to run sanctum it is still solid and you are rolling on the chance of getting Original Sin relic!
Well obviously you dont get the Profit twice for Splitting the Simplex Amulets. A non Split Version is worth Double the amount of a Split one so its the Same:) still a Solid strat to make Lots of currency
found my first mirror this league in T7 farming after 3.5k hours.. and a second one the day after
I got lucky awakened multistrike from my first maven this league and sold it for 53div.. it's so weird to have that kind of money and it's even weirder to be able to buy nearly anything now that most of the prices are crashing compared to normal.. I just bought squires for me and my friend and been able to play with bunch of toys I've never been able to afford before.. o,o Must say I'm having more fun than ever.. :33 Tho I don't think this should be the new normal nessesarily..
Ive never seen the economy this badly in shambles. Theres some positives but how incredibly skewed prices are on both ends is jarring.
Im not a casual player but i rarley engage in juice strats since i take other avenues for currency generation.
I dont see a league like this happening ever again. MF isnt the problem here like ive seen some people try and and say its the unitended interaction with wisp stacking and rares.
I kinda hate this league
While I agree that the state of the game economy is pretty bad, I have progressed further in this league than I ever have thanks to getting ahead of the curve. I've completely stopped MFing now though and have been having fun doing things that have previously been inaccessible to me like uber farming and deep delve.
Yeah, there's always positives and negatives together. Reminds me of Kalandra - a league that had a lot of issues, but still had some cool stuff going on like great new skills.
GGG made a mistake not immediately removing the abyss spire additional proi interaction earlier in the league.
Economy is buggered, items that are were valued at a few divines or more have sky rocketed, specially if they are anything to do with MF. Making the barrier for entry extremely steep for anyone new into the league and greatly increasing the wealth disparity between average players and the blasters.
but that's why you should target farm that which people want but doesn't drop from MF mapping. that's the whole point of this video. the value of such items has gone up, so if you farm those instead of MF'ing you can make a lot of money. even just spam farming essences can yield good money since so many people are skipping them due to how tanky they get with the affliction juicing.
Can also craft mf gear yourself
It tooks less breach splinters, breachstones to pick up one by one and buy a mageblood then the amount of a magic finder has to hover over heavy belts this league. It was just an example but if anyone s feeling they re missing out on big divine drops etc. because of no mf, they should not. Harvest, breach, harbinger all these stuff are in very good spot to farm, ppl just keep bringing you divines even you dont drop them yourself.
Average belts should be a couple sextants in value (until you determine which one they are by mouseover). Mageblood is only ~1500 times rarer than the most common uniques, not ~25000 times
Hate this league. Everything is either worthless or stupid crazy expensive, no inbetween. And if you don't want to magic find, well tough luck, you are now poor.
Nerf maps, buff sanctum
Mageblood is at its most plebeian state ever. Anyone can farm a mageblood in 2 days of time with alch and go
If you don’t mind clicking out of your mind, Breach was ver lucrative for me. About 100ish divines in just chayula stones alone, and another 100 in pure drops. All done within 100 maps and in about 20-24 hours of in-game time.
Yeah anything off the core loop can be made to work... For people like you and me who know to do that.
Maybe I'm misremembering, but from what I remember, badge of the brotherhood hasn't been particularly valuable in quite a while 🤔
Maybe a year and a bit now
I just know I've dropped a few and I've been disappointed every time I looked up the price 😂
It's Ralakesh that was the expensive part of the package since 3.19
What are the big items I should buy this league to take back to standard for testing future builds? Squire is definitely on the list.
Squire, Rakiata's Dance, Kateforge (unless that's gone up)
So something that’s vary interesting about this is normally when unique items fall in value this much the magic finders drop reliquary scarabs for something like harbinger but since conversion mobs converting a shit T1 or T0 into currency or scarabs is so valuable they just stick with reliquary scarabs further devaluing those rare but niche items
Pretty sure the droprate on Fracturing Shards have been nerfed this league too.
In the past you generally got around ~2 fracturing orbs for every 100 maps you did with Scarabs, Kirac mod and Mysterious Harbinger compass.
This league both me and all of my friends feel like you get around ~1 orb every 100 maps doing the same things.
Only an assumption though.
I have noticed the same... Could be RNG, but I noticed it too.
I was so shocked to see Squire for 6divs at one point. Bought mine last league for 55divs xD
wait did you just say the drop rate for squire is the same as mageblood or headhunter?
I got a squire this league .... :(((((
I play SSF and i LOVE the drop rate of uniques :)
I never like feeling the need to grind one particular way for days on end to accomplish something. If i never run another juiced crimson temple again then it will be too soon. This league mechanic has me not playing much as the mechanic is about as interesting as walking down the correct path.
I'm glad some people are enjoying it. Just not for me.
was wondering what was up with tainted oil i was dumbfounded not understanding why it was so ridiculously high
I feel like the mf's have almost balanced some other currency strats as blight and bossing are now stupid lucrative
You don't neeeed any of the over the top 1%er stuff to enjoy this league thoroughly. People will always find a way to get too rich but for once it isn't gatekeeping me from playing the game how i want when i want. The economy is fine, there's nothing to complain about if I'm able to play without worrying about prices all the time. One extremely expensive item here and there? I can work it off and actually obtain it and feel good, whats there to complain about? Whys it so bad that we ALL have to have GG bows to compensate for Affliction? The answer is simple, it's just one unobtainable option out of hundreds of fun and affordable options that are perfectly competitive. Don't let the delusions of needing currency bombs distract you from the high returns you can get from various items that don't require risking your neck or sanity to get rich. I literally got cards and items that fetch me 15+ divs a pop and I'm a flippin clueless casual making 200+ divs a day on accident.
Affliction didn't break trade, it broke the cartels that buy up the rarest things in the game.
what's the funnest ralakesh, botb, 2 void batteries build that could get going within 1-2 divs all inclusive??
Does Penance Brand of Dissolution sound fun? Add Graven's Secret and you should have an Uber bosser (squishy but extreme damage)
The power charge shield is often used instead of the second battery, both options are really good
me as a harvest farmer : It ain't much, but it's honest work
Harvest is easy bank. Everybody wants juice to reroll scarabs, but no one wants to farm it. 😀😀😀
What I am fine about being common:
-scarabs, sextants, low-tier currency. This SHOULD be common and you should be able to make profit on your scarabs (even winged tier) without a fucking MF party. Nobody plays ruthless mode because they made content itself rare too, rather than just limiting access to player-equippable gear, gems and crafting currency.
What I am not fine about being common:
-uniques, to the point where even T1 drops are worth few chaos orbs. Normally if you drop something like unnatural instinct, AA or void battery you are few divines richer and can afford another build upgrade. Not this time, you're not sure if you even want to bother selling this crap. 15 chaos trade in a league where single map pulls out 7 divines? No thanks.
meanwhile divines are 315c+ in standard
Oh no…anyways
On console they’re 130 per divine
Kind of a bummer for me. I played the first week or two then went on vacation for two weeks and came back to this horrible economy. I never MF and have no desire to run abyss/etc.
I guess i will finish challenges then bail.
What stops you from farming? Everything is boosted, you progress so fast now cuz things are cheap. Doesnt matter if you dont play mf.
@@GE_Photon_Lord nothing stops me from farming, but all the things i had for sale two weeks ago are considered trash now, and things i need are super expensive because of inflation. Not a huge deal, just a bit deflating to come back to. I love the league though, and the new skills are amazing. I'll just wait until next league to try a few more builds in a fresh economy since I don't have enough time to do the grind this time around. I would like to see them update their loot tables and MF interaction. It's basically been the same since CW himself coded them 12+ years ago. Hopefully they figure it out for PoE2 and don't copy/paste.
@@knaz7468 How are your items expensive? A lot of people play mf exclusively in any shape or form and all other items are extremely cheap.
Do you have a discord, where I can help with the div card stuff (I See Brothers is my div card) so I'd really like to know how best to farm it Because I'd at least like to have one by the end of the league
As a casual who can only afford to play for 1-2 hours a day most of the time, I'm loving this league.
I can actually juice maps and get mad loot, rather than just windowshopping streamers with zoomer builds, I am the zoomer now.
essences is 30+ div/hour this league but who wanna run essences when wildwood is the bomb (me)
I think your take goes into completely the opposite direction. League mechanics boosts raw currency and uniques, especially since MF works great for that. Farming that is popular, so those items are worth less. Conversely, everything that doesn't get affected (certain league mechanics like harvest, beasts, essences, blight, heist) is much more valuable. The economy balances itself. The simplex amulet for example. Not sure how rare it is, but having a raw base being about as valuable as a mirror (and certainly not as rare as a heist reward) is insane.
Im so glad I switched to SSF
Oh no! Another League with a "broken" economy!
That'll be... every League since PoE started.
I'm loving this league, personally I play 3-4 builds each league and min-max them. I don't like selling my builds so funding new builds is a bit tough. But this league currency is so easy to earn, me any my duo have already gotten 35 mirrors and are gonna split after 4 days. I've already made 14 pobs, can't wait to try out all the new shit.
Did you earn all that with MF?
35 mirrors in 4 days? thats way above average I think
@@foxxxooo just think about it 😅😅
Not going to call people wrong for liking this league (opinions can't be right or wrong), but of 24 leagues in the 3.X era, it's the only one I'd call dumpster tier. Kalandra had design issues and Legion had tech issues (for me) but both eclipsed this, IMO.
TBH I'd take a league with Ultimatum's day 1 tech issues, Legion's week 2 issues, and Kalandra's mechanics, and still rate it over Affliction - despite the core game being in a good spot.
@@sirgog Dumpster tier because the normies can make currency and drop items that only farming groups could ever touch before? wtf
I agree bud I'm in same boat the mfing strat isn't viable for me on my old pc so I couldn't even if I wanted to but there is much currency to be made supplying people mfing and bossing because there builds can't! But great vid as usual
Yeah my PC can handle it fine but it just doesn't feel like the game. I'm glad I had a few non-league-related projects I wanted to work on.
Kinda hoping GGG run a Standard-parented event.
I find the league quite balanced. MF is to the ground because of it being so common, but all unrelated mechanics benefit from the trickle down.
Essence sell high, so do oils, beasts, and heist items.
Agree. I dont get people complaints here,you dont wanna mf? fine you can do other stuff,essences are super profitable,heist is insane,harvest juice is like 4k/d any color.
the only people i think that got screwed(and thus complaining) are the ones playing trade simulator and bots. Iam having fun blasting content more and trading less this league,but thats just me.@@oneoranota
I really enjoyed TotA, but this league has topped it. Affliction is the best league ever.
1:1 league with Sentinel + 50% ascendancy charms etc and ppl happy because x15 loot 😂😂😂
Shhhh in the money making strat for harby
Yeah this league is pushing me to go SSF if I keep playing this game. Even as someone who in past leagues will make 10-20 divines on the opening weekend, which isn't huge but is a bit above the average casual player, this is...just...yikes. Bot cosplaying in T7 maps is the meta? Fuck that.
i actually started new toon because squire was 2 div
Broken record here, but the game currently feels like you have access to GDStash - For those of you who play Grim Dawn will know what I mean. Certainly GDStash was a lot of fun for a short period of time (able to test out all builds, classes, etc...) but ruins the game long-term. Who the hell is going to play the game next league if this is the first league they were able to enjoy it? Unless this becomes the norm (increased drop rate for 99% of uniques), the player base that enjoys this league is not going to enjoy the next league. I am probably one of the people who plays the first 4 weeks makes enough to get my MB and maybe spends another 400D on my character and then ends up quitting. This league I sort of quit earlier, because although I did afford my MB earlier and did farm a bit more (maybe 2 mirrors) I am totally not interested in playing the META. I never am. All my currency was made via Delve for the most part this league... I know If embraced the META, I would probably have made 8 or so mirrors total, but that isn't my thing. This was my least favorite league and it has nothing to do with casuals being able to get good gear. I am happy for you guys who love it, I just think the enjoyment for your isn't going to last and is a short sighted decision on GGGs part if they do not implemented this again next league, because everything else is going to just feel bad next league. I keep saying this, but this might be the league I stop playing the game entirely, or just play standard as a casual. I don't like the direction GGG is going with this and for them to not nerf it when it was seem to be wildly out of control means their vision and my vision of this game are not gonna jive anymore... Time to move on if that is the case.
i was making bank off of harbinger and essence. got a bit bored since, might return later
Any really fun build recommendations for ralakesh's or the squire? Seems like the league to try out some of these.
Manabond Mjolnir for Squire is pretty neat.
Squire used by spiders and some venom gyre variants
Drop rate for fracturing orb shards for me, took week and a half to get a full orb running 50ish maps a day. 5 harbingers per map with every harbinger node in tree taken. I did play around 10 maps with a friend and a third of the drops were in those 10 maps. Not MF just juiced t16 without affliction. I dropped harbinger after i sold 1 for 21 divines, wasnt worth the time in took in maps for that long term of a turn around imo. Also I feel like they almost have a lever they pull with drop rates of harbinger orbs, some days drops are great then I would go 2 or 3 days without seeing them. Weekends seemed to be better for whatever reason.
moderate juice no delerium just 6 breaches minimum each map, harvest, and whatever scarabs I had to add stuff to map. Legion, expedition, einhar, ect.
I agree with the drop rate thing, some days full of fracture shards, others 0.
I'm running harbinger myself with all the nodes on the atlas, occasionally additional harbingers on map device, scarabs, and the sextant that makes it so harbingers drop additional currency which i would highly recommend. With affliction added the rares spawned during harbinger drop a good amount of items themselves, but nothing insane usually. I would say I average 1 fracturing orb every 40 maps in less than a day using cleave of rage.
but yeah without the sextant especially i would not recommend harbinger for farming fracturing orbs.
I dropped 10 shards last 2 days farming some harbies while i did blight and ultimatum for the challenges, they made me more money than These mechanics combined over that time
Generally the ideal for arpg for me is harder content = better rewards, so yeah.. even though I've never even touched these tier 0 uniques, somehow it's not an interesting league.
Only in Softcore. In HC trade everything is fine as always and items retain value as they should. When there is constant influx without any kind of loss, ofc any softcore market would crash quickly during such a rewarding league. Its the nature of things and everyone playing with a godmode cheat should expect that.
lol, hc peeps really losing it, calling sc a godmode cheat XD
Godmode cheat lol don't forget to hit your logout macro every time your hp moves now
This is probably the best league since I dont even know, probably expedition or something. Every league was extremely boring and filler-ish since then. Now you can play a ton of builds for free. And in interesting ways too. You can play your previous niche builds for free and even min max them to a crisp. You don't have to mf to feel like you accomplished something, because that's not true. Your normal farming strats are boosted anyway. Only thing you lose is that WOW feeling when you drop something rare, which gets offset by you getting free items on trade that previously costed way too much for you. And let's be real, you probably didnt drop a squire ever, my case included, so the chance on that is slim anyway.
Literally win win for everyone, niche builds are absurdly buffed, meta strategies buffed as well.
Also btw, lab is completely buffed, from the absolute feels bad way to make currency you can now run labs at low level and make raw divines. It's crazy, I got 5 divs selling gems in a few hours. You don't even need a lab runner dedicated character to attempt this. You don't need a base, just act 3 lvl 11 gems if you wish ( that's what I did anyway ).
So yeah, if anything I thought the core gameplay would get nerfed since it just feels so good for ggg's standards ( as non mf ). If you are mf it's even better obviously.
Issue is - yeah I can play those builds but unless you do Affliction cheese every map drops nothing. Items are hitting the ground but your loot filter blocks them all.
Unless you break out of the core game loop. It's like Kalandra but way worse for loot.
If you don't do cheese you can easily go a hundred maps with just two divine drops and the three invitations (plus crumbs like sextants and exalts)
@@sirgog That's just not true at all.
Yeah, I think this league could be the best yet, gog has no idea
Can you advise what build uses those items you mentioned at the end please?
you can go on poeninja builds and look some up, that should give you some idea!
Best league in years. Bossing makes bank
Ok PLEASE tell me how to make currency like that on console cause THATS the big market. Ps I CANT mf abyss farm because I’m playing poison prolif and I can’t let the spires spawn stuff. Atm I’m running exiles ghosted and 400%+ rarity per map. Is that going to be enough ?
Anything that adds a good amount of rares to your map. Legion, even ritual can be good. I've found nothing that feels as explosive as abyss though, but imo nothing will feel like an extra proj spired abyss.
@@nimueahgames2847 ah I completely forgot about ritual lol. Ya my build can handle the abyss madness (poison PF) a bit too well. Doesn’t give the abyss time to spew lol
They're doing this to test what needs to be changed for the economy in path of exile 2. What currency rises to the top when you devalue the current meta? It's an important question to answer. They're limit testing their Divine change and seeing what the next in line currencies are.
That's possible. But the economy is tied to metamods and I highly doubt POE 2 will have those.
Yeah, if it wasn't for metamods then both exalts and divines would be similar in price. If not for the map device crafts, then chaos would be worth way less as well. I don't know that there's much of anything to glean about the relative value of currencies, but it could be that they are experimenting with the overall rarity of uniques, or they could just be going balls to the wall for fun while we wait for PoE 2. Just a shame I'm not really enjoying it.
Im just playing the game as i have usually done with going for ritual and alva and i know these arent the best ways to farm currency i like doing em. But man seeing people get 10's of divines drops every so often makes me reconsider but abyss farming really seems extremely dumb and boring
every mapping mechanic in the game is dumb and boring so I don't get your point here tbh
I got a I see brothers drop on my first juiced strand map sold for 10 div on console
It seems completely unjuiceable (other than "is the boss twinned") but one of the projects I'll run this league is a test along those lines.
@@sirgog good to know that juicing will not effect drop rate. Yes my map had twinned bosses on it though.
I just want 1 mirror... so i can finally have a badass character