Flowers In The Attic: The Origin Review|5 DIFFERENCES b/w Lifetime Series and Book-Garden of Shadows

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  • Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
  • 5 DIFFERENCES between the FLOWERS IN THE ATTIC: THE ORIGIN limited series on LIFETIME and the original book - GARDEN OF SHADOWS by V.C. Andrews.

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  • @TheBlackSaint
    @TheBlackSaint 2 роки тому +67

    I agree that Olivia is certainly fearsome and terrifying in FLOWERS IN THE ATTIC, but I’d argue that the true “villain” is Corrine. She’s responsible for her children’s imprisonment and she could free her children at any point. However, she chooses to sacrifice them for her own personal gain. Olivia and Malcolm would have no legal authority or power to hold the children captive against Corrine’s will.

    • @fortheculture657
      @fortheculture657  2 роки тому +15

      Good point. Corrine did set the wheels in motion for their imprisonment due to her greed and selfishness.

    • @icemoney6651
      @icemoney6651 2 роки тому

      I felt Olivia was really the victim in most of it but I haven’t read the books so I’m going off the movies & shows but when Mal died Olivia gave up on life fr but you have to notice Corrine obviously went through a lot of trauma because it eventually became a mental illness that she could no longer control it’s important to watch all 3 movies & the shows. Shit if we really being real Corrine (Malcom’s mother raped him & doomed that family )

    • @laminage
      @laminage 2 роки тому +16

      @@fortheculture657 Also she was very spoiled. Malcolm spoiled her and when she and Christopher ran away and made a life for themselves, they lived beyond their means that Corrine admitted after Christopher died. She had no appreciable skills. The best one was Garden Of Shadows.

  • @katemaloney4296
    @katemaloney4296 3 місяці тому +20

    I always thought there was too much going on to cover in a 2-hour film. FITA should be a 10-episode series on Netflix or Tubi or freevee. JMHO.

  • @magalita336
    @magalita336 3 місяці тому +12

    The sex scenes between Olivia and Malcolm, the way he puts a hand over her face. The way he hurts her. That was terrifying.

  • @jadejewel6586
    @jadejewel6586 3 місяці тому +5

    I just found your channel yesterday. I reread the books a few years ago. A really appreciate your insight and I look forward to watching your reviews of the rest of the series. Thank you.😊

  • @erikmcc804
    @erikmcc804 3 місяці тому +5

    Wow I love the book series and all the movies are amazing 😍 I love the Lifetime movies 😊 Also they were uncle and niece but they were sister and brother. Both were born by they had the same mother ...also i am now a subscriber.

  • @rudeinterplanetjanet
    @rudeinterplanetjanet 3 місяці тому +4

    I read these books in my teens which I might have been 12 when I read "Flowers in the Attic." Probably too young to read such stories. I was not nearly as upset by the incest that took place as I should've been. It is really a dark story. I loved these books at the time and I forgot a lot of this stuff and have not seen the limited series yet. I will watch it now. I remember Olivia's story really stood out for me at the time and you did a great job covering it. I remember Olivia being tall and unattractive in the book. She stood out amongst the high class beautiful people and without having that detail in the tv series makes it miss the mark. These books were really a big part if my teenage years and I appreciate you covering them so well.

  • @Firespawnable
    @Firespawnable 2 роки тому +9

    This is my first time watching your channel and I was impressed how well you were able to express your thoughts even tho it's a long video I really enjoyed your commentary so I subscribed 😅

    • @fortheculture657
      @fortheculture657  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you so much for the kind words and for subscribing!

  • @cb5484
    @cb5484 2 роки тому +13

    They killed off John Amos in the Origin movie. In the movie series, John Amos doesn't die until the house is set on fire at the same time that Corrine dies. It doesn't make sense. Did they forget about the movies they have already made? Also, they implied in Part 1 that John Amos was gay. When he met Malcom, he had a palpable interest in him. This could have explained his obsession with Malcom, which he conveyed to Bart, in the later film. But then in Part 4, he is suddenly obsessed with Olivia, and even though he is living in their house he has no dealings with Malcom at all. Malcom is also not shown being religious, which would have been necessary for him to write his manifesto, which is later taken by Amos and conveyed to Bart. It is only Oliva who is shown being religious. None of this makes any sense. These continuity problems are annoying. Its as if they got lost and forgot the story they were trying to tell. Also, what the hell eventually happened to Joel and Harry? When did Joel die? They could have tied up his story better since they were not going to revisit his character in the subsequent movies.

  • @trealasha7698
    @trealasha7698 2 роки тому +15

    The original movie 1987 of Flowers in the Attic can't be touched. Hands down the best version

    • @icemoney6651
      @icemoney6651 2 роки тому +4

      I don’t know about that one Corrine and Olivia were much more viscous in the new one but the way the old version played out was good as hell I had to watch the old one I felt like the newer one left some stuff out but it was definitely a bit more brutal

  • @cicely2084
    @cicely2084 2 роки тому +13

    I have read all of V.C. Andrews series. Flowers in the Attic was by far my favorite. I absolutely loved the prequel.
    In regards to the parallel between the book and movie, I think they portrayed Olivia more empathetic than she was in the book. I understand that they are trying to humanize her, but in the book, she was an “Iron lady” The actor who is portraying Malcolm is a miscast. He looks too young, not confident, and his accent appears very forced. The relationship between Malcolm and his father deserved more background information; Olivia’s relationship with the Black maid seems rushed and not genuine. Once again, not enough development. Their storyline will be interesting moving forward. Olivia’s relationship with Alicia captured envy and compassion. Overall, I was entertained. Looking forward to part 2.

    • @fortheculture657
      @fortheculture657  2 роки тому +8

      I agree. Flowers in the Attic is VC Andrew's best work.
      Garden of Shadows was my favorite. Soo glad to see them tell this story.
      They definitely humanized Olivia in a big way. I'm curious to see how they'll make the turn from this Olivia to the woman we meet in Flowers in the Attic.
      Yes, I would have liked to see more of Garland and his relationship with Malcolm. They killed him off pretty quickly.
      I like that they added the Nella character b/c Olivia definitely needs a friend and confidante. Learning what Malcom did to Nella was significant in depicting him as a monster. In the book, his cruelty seemed limited to his family but we learn he's actually worse than we imagined.
      Part 2 was very good in fleshing out the character and dynamics...

    • @TheBlackSaint
      @TheBlackSaint 2 роки тому +5

      @@fortheculture657 I think Malcolm was pretty young in GARDEN OF SHADOWS, right? Somewhere in his mid-20s. I think the actor in the movie works. I agree that Olivia is not quite right. She’s a bit more fragile. Whereas, as stated, in the book, she’s the “Iron Lady” -- she keeps her vulnerability and emotions in check. She’s also quite the shade caster in the book, and I don’t get that in the movie.

    • @fortheculture657
      @fortheculture657  2 роки тому +3

      RE: Malcolm's age. That's what I thought too. I know Olivia was around 24 when she and Malcolm met, I assumed he was around the same age.
      Which makes me curious to how old he was when he raped and impregnated Nella, b/c her daughter looks grown in Part I.
      And yes, Olivia was quite the mean girl in the book. Taking jabs at everyone every chance she got.

    • @iwhippedcreamcode4642
      @iwhippedcreamcode4642 2 роки тому +5

      Max is a Great actor....And portrays Malcom perfectly according to his Despicable nature in the Book!... (He's CHARACTER is in his mid 20') in 1919.....Irons is actually In his 30's.

    • @Natalie_11188
      @Natalie_11188 3 місяці тому

      @@fortheculture657I always assumed Malcom was a teenager when he raped Nella and their daughter was conceived. If he was 17/18, she was still in school Nella said so he was probably in his late 30s at that point (same age Max Irons was).

  • @daddiedimples09
    @daddiedimples09 2 роки тому +6

    The Title Indicated That It Wasn’t Going To Be Very Dedicated To Source Material Originally Called Garden Of Shadows

  • @missybuchanan9631
    @missybuchanan9631 19 днів тому

    Please, if you’re an 80s babe, refer to her as Virginia Andrews. V C Andrews books were completed after she died, and from what I understand they read very differently. Cannot confirm if they do indeed read differently as I’ve only read the ten, but there is a distinction (same as Stephen King vs Richard Bachman)

  • @laminage
    @laminage 2 роки тому +5

    Also VC Andrews (whose real name was Cleo Virginia Andrews) only wrote 100 Pages before she died of Cancer, her Ghostwriter Andrew Niederman wrote Garden Of Shadows.

    • @Muirmaiden
      @Muirmaiden Рік тому +3

      She wrote 100 for the third Casteel book, none of which was used.

    • @katemaloney4296
      @katemaloney4296 3 місяці тому +2

      I have a suspicion that the ghostwriter wrote more than half of SEEDS OF YESTERDAY because the dialogue is not characteristic of VC's earlier three novels.
      GARDEN OF SHADOWS threw the blueprint of the first two books out of the window and decided to make Olivia the villain and not Corrine.

    • @MdnightWnd
      @MdnightWnd Місяць тому +1

      @@katemaloney4296 See I feel like Seeds of Yesterday was written in full by VCA. It seems more her style than Neiderman's.

  • @angelaschmalke7836
    @angelaschmalke7836 3 місяці тому +3

    I don't know why they didn't the actress that played in GoT ask Brianna She is perfect for the role of Olivia

    • @jadejewel6586
      @jadejewel6586 3 місяці тому

      I thought so as well as soon as Olivia's Height was brought up. I read all the books when I was about 12. I've seen the movie and the Lifetime series. I did enjoy the these a bit more because they did all the books. I didn't like what happened to Corrine in the movie, but I suppose they didn't intend a sequel.

  • @destinywaugh2396
    @destinywaugh2396 Рік тому +3

    I love this series.

  • @tytybaby06
    @tytybaby06 Рік тому +2

    Great breakdown! Never read the books just saw the movie & the remakes & I agree that she should’ve been more book accurate because it just didn’t make sense to me why she was so hard on herself when she’s not ugly.

    • @fortheculture657
      @fortheculture657  Рік тому +3

      Thanks for watching! Yes, the movie didn’t portray Olivia the way the books did so it didn’t make sense why she was insecure of her looks.

  • @Kashmere-w9n
    @Kashmere-w9n Місяць тому

    Rip VC Andrews🕊️❤️

  • @lingeringquestions519
    @lingeringquestions519 2 роки тому +4

    This was insightful. It is actually four parts and not two.

    • @fortheculture657
      @fortheculture657  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you for watching!
      I didn't realize it was 4 parts. So happy to learn that b/c it's such a long story to tell and 2 parts wouldn't cut it.

  • @biddipop9
    @biddipop9 Місяць тому

    I’m still mad that no one has ever created the swan bed as it’s described in the books!

  • @katherineclasses6439
    @katherineclasses6439 3 місяці тому +4

    There are now 11 books in all. I would skip 6, 7, 8 and the last three are about young Garland Foxworth and his new wife Corrine.

  • @gothbattyy
    @gothbattyy 2 роки тому +2

    Can you review the lifetime Dollanganger movies???

  • @evelynannettegordon3697
    @evelynannettegordon3697 2 роки тому +4

    I'm so here for it

  • @Kashmere-w9n
    @Kashmere-w9n Місяць тому +1

    Malcolm actually killed Garland they just played it off like he had a heart attack

  • @martinmeek2766
    @martinmeek2766 2 роки тому +2

    Best review yet.

  • @ee.som.o
    @ee.som.o 2 роки тому +2

    I might be early or late to something, but, Malcom in this mini series is a dog yes? So, why is his same character this “God fearing” sin avoiding tool in If There be Thorns? Tis the same Malcom, Corrine’s father.
    &, in Petals on the Wind, I believe Cathy says they were in the attic for two years, in If There be Thorns when she confronts Corrine, she says it was three..so..which is it?

    • @katemaloney4296
      @katemaloney4296 3 місяці тому +2

      The ghostwriter remade Malcolm and Olivia into different characters than originally written. He made it appear that Olivia was manipulated by John Amos into being a religious zealot. Corrine mentioned that John Amos made advances toward her, and her parents wanted her to marry him.
      But the worst part is how the ghostwriter took away the responsibility of Malcom and Corrine's actions and put them all on Olivia's shoulders.

    • @katemaloney4296
      @katemaloney4296 3 місяці тому +3

      In POTW, Cathy mentions to Paul and Bart that she and her siblings were locked in the attic for 3 years 4 months and 16 days.

  • @rosie3408
    @rosie3408 3 дні тому +1

    I agree about the height and hair color. They should have tried harder.

  • @Kashmere-w9n
    @Kashmere-w9n Місяць тому

    Andrew Neiderman is VC Andrews ghostwriter that the family hired

  • @graceamodeo1587
    @graceamodeo1587 3 місяці тому +2

    I think in the book Alicia was groomed. If I'm not mistaken, Garlin met her when she was a kid or something like that. Gross!

    • @Natalie_11188
      @Natalie_11188 3 місяці тому +2

      Yes Alicia was clearly groomed by Garland. Garland was not a sadistic asshole like Malcolm but he wasn’t a great guy.

  • @aweeks062
    @aweeks062 2 роки тому +5

    Its 4 parts boo. Lifetime did Flowers in the Attic in 2014 so they been on this a minute.

    • @fortheculture657
      @fortheculture657  2 роки тому +4

      Yes, just realizing it's 4 parts. So happy to learn that!

    • @aweeks062
      @aweeks062 2 роки тому +2

      @@fortheculture657 I was so happy to find you going over this show! I can't wait for more of creepy John Amos and Christopher coming back. We still have a bit to get through :)

    • @fortheculture657
      @fortheculture657  2 роки тому +1

      We do. There's still so much story to tell. So sad about Mal and scared for Joel. In the previews, it looks real bad for him!

  • @angelinashankle75
    @angelinashankle75 26 днів тому

    I thought it was 4 parts

  • @marylarson1874
    @marylarson1874 2 місяці тому

    Great review.

  • @chattingesque372
    @chattingesque372 Рік тому +3

    Who was the gay subplot created for? You have to wonder..

  • @icemoney6651
    @icemoney6651 2 роки тому +1

    Great video the only thing with me is I feel like every review shouldn’t be compared to to the book. In all reality we know they tend to change things but the movies 🎥 & show is already enough confusing for people

  • @Freezient
    @Freezient 2 місяці тому

    I’ve been biting my tongue, but I have something to say about the actress they chose to play Olivia, she might not fit with the description but the actress is quite… unconventionally attractive, especially with how they style her hair in a way that wouldn’t compliment her features. When I heard that she’s not considered to be very attractive, I can see where they’re coming from. This is awkward to say cause I don’t believe that anyone in the film is unattractive, but the way they styled her, I think they got the point across that she’s not supposed to be desirable

  • @Kashmere-w9n
    @Kashmere-w9n Місяць тому

    Rip VC Andrews🕊️❤️