chaotic allure queens effect is to equip a monster as an equip spell even if it doesn't have an effect, this is not possible when it is negated even if the card equipped by it's effect has an effect while equipped. it is like borreload savage dragon's effect to equip a link, the equipped card is treated as an equip spell under the condition that it is equipped to borreload and if borreload's effect is negated then it is treated as a monster card and sent to the grave. if destruction sword had activated an effect to equip itself from hand to a monster then it would remain equipped after dark ruler resolves
For a proper explanation, lingering effects applying only to the same card stop applying when it's negated, while lingering effects applying to groups of cards, even including itself (like Dogmatica Fleurdelis) or any OTHER card (Eldlich the Golden Lord) keep applying because said effect is not tied to the card itself
It's not a cost to remove it from the field so you need to already have Shrimp summoned and chain immediately to Skill Drain's activation. You can go Woes and Synchro summon using Shrimp in order to dodge drain but the options are limited because it's a tuner (shrimp + elzette + astellar works)
@6:22 Silvia negates the EFFECT similarly to Regulus so it won't work against Drain. Negating the ACTIVATION would have sent Drain to the GY. You were remembering the interaction correctly but i just want to clear this out
18:58 Caesar can negate Rage's effect to link summon if you hadn't negated the Yubel on the field. The reason Talent and other stealing effects were so powerful during AgOv forcing Unchained to end on Caesar pass with Sharvara in hand was due to Caesar singlehandedly checking all other interruptions when stolen
23:17 if you remember Savage also lost its equip when negated. Dragoon also lost the ATK boost. However Fleurdelis doesn't. The reason is when a monster applies a lingering effect to itself and it gets negated said effect will stop applying. You can also verify this with Genroku in Tenpai losing the level (but changing to Tuner works differently so it doesn't lose that). A huge issue is Eldlich the Golden Lord confusing people, because it keeps the effect under Skill Drain, but if you notice its wording, Eldlich summons ANY Zombie from hand and not specifically itself. So TLDR; lingering effects applying only on the card itself stop applying if the card is later negated, don't stop applying if they affected multiple cards (including itself) or a different card altogether . Hope this helps
If a monster equips a card to itself that is not an equip spell, and that monster is negated, the equip card will fall off, because the effect of that monster is equipping it. -Infernoble Duelist
05:18 imo the more optimal play would be to hold Astellar's effect after you added Woes with Rciela, because then you bring Astellar back, activate her effect and send Woes instead of Wanted. To me, the play would make more sense if you wanted to use Wanted's GY effect to draw by shuffling back Deception, but I would rather have Deception set itself again instead of the draw as well. So by holding Astellar, you have one more card on field. If you had something different in mind though, that's fine as well. What's your opinion on Desirae? You would lose one main deck slot to run Lacrima but gain one extra deck slot because you replace Caesar and lose Necroquip Princess. Do you think that trade off is worth it?
While I don't mind Desirae, since it helps protecting your lock against one more breaker, do you really gain an extra deck slot? Ceasar and Necro out, Sequence and Desirae in?
14:39, you should special rucia, send astellar for witch, witch add and get into azamina, then rucia could send draw 1 the tales or the murcielago add.
i like the buster lock but 1500 atk and def seems a bit easy to get over. im not too knowlegeable about the cards in the meta but think it would pretty easy to run over. and play in mp2
Keep up the WF grind man, you gained my sub
chaotic allure queens effect is to equip a monster as an equip spell even if it doesn't have an effect, this is not possible when it is negated even if the card equipped by it's effect has an effect while equipped. it is like borreload savage dragon's effect to equip a link, the equipped card is treated as an equip spell under the condition that it is equipped to borreload and if borreload's effect is negated then it is treated as a monster card and sent to the grave. if destruction sword had activated an effect to equip itself from hand to a monster then it would remain equipped after dark ruler resolves
For a proper explanation, lingering effects applying only to the same card stop applying when it's negated, while lingering effects applying to groups of cards, even including itself (like Dogmatica Fleurdelis) or any OTHER card (Eldlich the Golden Lord) keep applying because said effect is not tied to the card itself
16:52 "maybe he was thinking... No wait, he was definitely not thinking" classic
Good video, thanks for the hard work 👍
Zapper Shrimp can get rid of skill Drain by Synchroing after he triggers.. He can dodge the Skill Drain can't he?
It's not a cost to remove it from the field so you need to already have Shrimp summoned and chain immediately to Skill Drain's activation. You can go Woes and Synchro summon using Shrimp in order to dodge drain but the options are limited because it's a tuner (shrimp + elzette + astellar works)
@6:22 Silvia negates the EFFECT similarly to Regulus so it won't work against Drain. Negating the ACTIVATION would have sent Drain to the GY. You were remembering the interaction correctly but i just want to clear this out
13:00 Caesar doesn't care about the damage step, it negates activations so you can use it at ANY time.
18:58 Caesar can negate Rage's effect to link summon if you hadn't negated the Yubel on the field. The reason Talent and other stealing effects were so powerful during AgOv forcing Unchained to end on Caesar pass with Sharvara in hand was due to Caesar singlehandedly checking all other interruptions when stolen
23:17 if you remember Savage also lost its equip when negated. Dragoon also lost the ATK boost. However Fleurdelis doesn't.
The reason is when a monster applies a lingering effect to itself and it gets negated said effect will stop applying. You can also verify this with Genroku in Tenpai losing the level (but changing to Tuner works differently so it doesn't lose that).
A huge issue is Eldlich the Golden Lord confusing people, because it keeps the effect under Skill Drain, but if you notice its wording, Eldlich summons ANY Zombie from hand and not specifically itself.
So TLDR; lingering effects applying only on the card itself stop applying if the card is later negated, don't stop applying if they affected multiple cards (including itself) or a different card altogether .
Hope this helps
If a monster equips a card to itself that is not an equip spell, and that monster is negated, the equip card will fall off, because the effect of that monster is equipping it.
-Infernoble Duelist
During my own testing I’ve had the same thing happen of not using the extra monster zone when using Chaos Allure Queen
05:18 imo the more optimal play would be to hold Astellar's effect after you added Woes with Rciela, because then you bring Astellar back, activate her effect and send Woes instead of Wanted. To me, the play would make more sense if you wanted to use Wanted's GY effect to draw by shuffling back Deception, but I would rather have Deception set itself again instead of the draw as well. So by holding Astellar, you have one more card on field. If you had something different in mind though, that's fine as well.
What's your opinion on Desirae? You would lose one main deck slot to run Lacrima but gain one extra deck slot because you replace Caesar and lose Necroquip Princess. Do you think that trade off is worth it?
While I don't mind Desirae, since it helps protecting your lock against one more breaker, do you really gain an extra deck slot? Ceasar and Necro out, Sequence and Desirae in?
@@simonvietjohansson8069 You are right, I forgot about Sequence, my bad!
@@Pallabon1you can make Lars instead as a one time Desirae replacing only Caesar
will you cover the new azamina support ?
Banger
14:39, you should special rucia, send astellar for witch, witch add and get into azamina, then rucia could send draw 1 the tales or the murcielago add.
Gonna make another video about the additional new cards we got?
question?? the diabel synchro if he raigeki couldn't you chain and put the other synchro that protects them from destructions???
Can we not afford to play Fuwa do to deck count or is there another reason why it’s not included in Main/Side?
When the new azamina card?
i like the buster lock but 1500 atk and def seems a bit easy to get over. im not too knowlegeable about the cards in the meta but think it would pretty easy to run over. and play in mp2
I think forcing your opponent to forgo their battle phase is still pretty good though