Steve Vai and Ibanez Didn't Invent the 7 String: The History of the 7 String Guitar

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  • @johnnytwo-shoes9798
    @johnnytwo-shoes9798 2 роки тому +13

    When i started playing guitar in the 90s in yr7 (first yr of highschool) we had the a musical instrument showcase night. I wanted to play:
    1. Trumpet - parents said no
    2. Violin - parents said no
    3.Saxophone? - parents said no
    4.Drums - parents said oh hell no
    They said, "Your uncle has a 20 year old acoustic..”, from Soviet Ukraine (Russia). "...You can play and learn that.” It was a rusty 7 string acoustic that had sat in his garage for the last 20 years untouched, no case, just rust and krudd. And so a few tetnus shots later, I started playing guitar. Calluses aplenty.
    Jokes on them. I got into metal rather than jazz and started getting GAS rather than having a good couple of instruments (thinking trumpet or violin)

  • @davidsperduti3767
    @davidsperduti3767 2 роки тому +3

    Steve Vai introduced me to 7 string. And then Korn who picked it up from Vai reintroduced me to it. Steve Vai brought this into your living room. Even though they’ve been made before, it’s very much the scenario of EvH’s tapping. It had been done before but he brought it into your home. Props to Vai and Ibanez for doing this!

  • @mikeaustin4138
    @mikeaustin4138 2 роки тому +4

    Studied jazz guitar for a bit back in 1969 with Howard Morgen in Queens, NYC. He had a D'Angelico(?) 7-string George Van Epps model guitar, wrote a book on 7-string jazz guitar, and also wrote articles for different guitar magazines on 7-string and fingerstyle jazz guitar. A great teacher.

    • @dck6546
      @dck6546 3 місяці тому

      Gretsch Van Eps model, I'd bet.

    • @mikeaustin4138
      @mikeaustin4138 2 місяці тому

      @@dck6546 Doesn't ring a bell, but it was 50+ years ago. I do remember that it was sunburst and was a big semi-hollow, like a Johnny Smith Gibson.

  • @marianocolombatti4942
    @marianocolombatti4942 2 роки тому +5

    Try to tune this guitar in major thirds. Amazing tuning for the 7th strings, you can use piano's voicings that way

  • @zacharyoliver1325
    @zacharyoliver1325 2 роки тому +10

    Thank you! I've been waiting to see someone make some music on a 7 string that wasn't just about chugging riffs. There's nothing wrong with good palm mute, but I want instruments that are capable of a range of expression and had a hard time figuring if extended range could add breadth.

    • @mixodorians12
      @mixodorians12 2 роки тому +1

      The entire Passion and Warfare album? Came out in 1990. Vais work of Slip of the Tongue was also 7 string predominantly.

    • @thetheoristtranscriptions
      @thetheoristtranscriptions 2 роки тому +2

      Animals as leaders self titled album , Ichika's early EP's ?
      Both albums are full of clean pieces with a 7/8 string guitar and make use of the extended range without chugging

  • @Andreas_tropicalwinter
    @Andreas_tropicalwinter 2 роки тому +7

    For me it was definitely KoRn. I bought a used RG7620 from 2000. The colour is grey nickel and I love it till today, even if I'm not playing 7 strings anymore. I got the sun burst Apex signature from Munky later and sold it again. It never felt, played or sounded anything near my old one. I kept it till today and it's the best sounding guitar I ever played. From time to time I open up it's case and feel the same as for the first time I saw it...just smiling and wrap my hands nervously around the neck.

  • @the1trueporkchop
    @the1trueporkchop 2 роки тому +2

    I used to play praise and worship on a 7 string.
    Definitely want to get one again!

  • @Ashtrid-i5f
    @Ashtrid-i5f Рік тому +2

    Awesome video, I got a 6th string guitar for my first guitar but because I’m more into death metal I realized that most songs I wanted to learn were on a 7, hell even an 8 string I didn’t even know those existed but once I bought a 7 string, the Jackson Js22-7 still an awesome guitar I never wanted to go back to a 6. 8 strings are good too but I prefer 7, it has everything a 6 string has plus lower ranges I don’t see why it’s not a win win

  • @TooSlamToGiveADamn
    @TooSlamToGiveADamn Місяць тому

    I bought a 7 string because of Korn. I played a 7 string because of Jeff Loomis and John Petrucci. It took almost a decade of gathering dust before I finally started to respect it as more than just a low tuning. The scale and chord patterns and tuning possibilities of extended range guitars is where the excitement is at.

  • @jasonsullivan4584
    @jasonsullivan4584 Рік тому +1

    I went from jagstang and fender mustangs to just Ibanez 7 strings just because you can get getter playability out of them

  • @davuspg
    @davuspg 2 роки тому +2

    The "maybe it had a PRS saddle" line cracked me up

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 Рік тому +1

    John Nathan Cordy
    The Russian 7 String Tuning is basically a Perfect Fourth below the English Guitar Tuning plus an Extra Low Bass String

  • @paulcaton7093
    @paulcaton7093 2 роки тому +2

    One of my favourite acoustic players, Yamandu Costa, mainly plays seven string.

    • @joshuadsmusic94
      @joshuadsmusic94 2 роки тому +1

      There’s a genre of Brazilian instrumental music called Choro in which the the 7 string classical/acoustic guitar is a huge part of, playing chords and basslines (the basslines being a big thing). Dino sete cordas I think was one of the first guys, and there were probably others. Then came a guy called Raphael Rabello, who i think took it took it to another level. The guitars and players can be found almost all over Brazil in a lot of their genres, but guys like Alessandro Penezzi and Yamandu Costa are really on another planet!

  • @reesehaller4085
    @reesehaller4085 2 роки тому +4

    I love clean tones on drop tuned or extended range guitars! Sounds great John!

  • @sambroxguitar
    @sambroxguitar 2 роки тому +2

    You know I love Vai. It was actually the Whitesnake album that put me on to 7 strings. His playing on that album is just ridiculous. Anyway, finally got a Universe a month or two back, my first ever 7 string

  • @CliffKant
    @CliffKant Рік тому

    I learned about 7 string from Jeff Loomies around 8 years ago. At that time I was the only guitar player in my church and we didn’t have a bass player so I got the 7 string to play some bass part and also to be able to play the normal things. Anyways, now I love my 7 string and it is my main guitar for the church that I play in (we have a full band now) and almost 95% times I don’t play both low B and E string but the feel of 7 string is very relaxing for me. I own schecter sun valley 7 fr.

  • @CalanReichel
    @CalanReichel 8 місяців тому

    I love that this video has the look it was shot for a community college, art history class project. lol
    Good stuff, just turn on some lights and turn down the background music please

  • @tappistrt
    @tappistrt 2 роки тому

    Steve Vai and Joe Satriani were my first exposure to a 7-string as well, and were both the inspiration for me to start playing guitar when I was in junior high school. I've owned a handful of 7-strings over the years and I will probably always have at least a couple in my collection. And yes I fit the stereotype for it: primarily a metal player.

  • @picksalot1
    @picksalot1 2 роки тому +2

    There's also the Harp Guitar, which has many more bass strings and an interesting history. I occasionally play a 17-string Lute (8 double courses, and single high string). But, it's a hassle to tune. The Theorbo is an interesting steel string, usually single course, Lute like instrument, with an insanely long neck (to get good bass response). It uses "re-entrant" tuning, which is some high pitched strings on the bass side of the instrument. That type of tuning makes it possible to easily play some amazingly fluid, melodic, and beautiful passages. Re-entrant tuning is also used on the Vihuela. The music of Santiago de Murcia (18th Century) as played by Miguel Rincon, is particularly good.

  • @robertclarkguitar
    @robertclarkguitar 2 роки тому +1

    Definitely looking into 7s lately for that extra depth in my weird stuff.

  • @theiranxican7412
    @theiranxican7412 2 роки тому +1

    I just recently ordered an oldie but goodie ibanez rg7321and couple of older Schecter 7 string models as well (007 elite and 2010 Omen 7).
    And I'm about to top it off with a Jackson js-22 7 (with the maple fretboard) tomorrow.
    I love me some 7 stringers! And don't worry, my Fenders are still treated kindly too lol
    All for around $550ish (used) all together. Of course I plan on modding them all if need be. Yep tomorrow is going to be a good day! 😎🤘

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 Рік тому +1

    I have a Doff 7 String Russian Guitar & I love playing Russian Music

  • @Crabfather
    @Crabfather 2 роки тому +2

    7 strings are great! I e been playing them for years now and I'm not a metal player. Somewhere between hard rock and quasi modern country or something. Best I've had is a schecter omen extreme, with the coil tap it's really versatile, and damn nice pups.

  • @dividedbytimestudios
    @dividedbytimestudios 2 роки тому +1

    We need more like that intro

  • @theturtleproject
    @theturtleproject 2 роки тому +1

    just wanted to say great work on the marathon album man , love that album

  • @christianboddum8783
    @christianboddum8783 2 роки тому +1

    I might pull the trigger on a 7 string one day, just to be able to play a full 3 octave run in one position 🙂

  • @jessenicholson1777
    @jessenicholson1777 2 роки тому +1

    The only 7 I ever owned was actually a double neck guitar, an Ibanez STW. 6 string with a Floyd on the bottom and a fixed bridge on the 7. I never was into nu or modern metal so I could never find any real use for the 7 string part of it. I really only liked it on clean tones as sort of a droning bass note under arpeggiated chords.

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  2 роки тому

      Wow that must have been rare?!

    • @jessenicholson1777
      @jessenicholson1777 2 роки тому

      @@johnnathancordy yeah I think no more than a few dozen were made. It was a a special release made for the 1999 Summer NAMM show.

  • @MB-rc8ie
    @MB-rc8ie 2 роки тому

    Whoa. Nice. I guess the one more string gives you a lot more options for chord and scale shapes, aditional bass notes.
    7 string is also useful if you try to transcribe other instruments like cello and run out of notes on fretboard. If you think of it, 6 strings are fairly limited.
    I don't own one, but my favourite tone is Jeff Loomis in Nevermore, DHIaDW album

  • @tunelowplayslow5623
    @tunelowplayslow5623 6 місяців тому

    Morbid Angel and Messugah were both using Steve Vai 7 strings in the early 90s before Korn and Limp Bizkit.

  • @thomaslarson438
    @thomaslarson438 Рік тому +1

    Invent the 7 string? NO!! Steve and Ibanez definitely Revolutionized the 7 string for rock and Metal music! I love all brands of guitars but IMO Ibanez makes the best 7 string Guitars

  • @scramblesthedeathdealer
    @scramblesthedeathdealer Рік тому

    I am a huge Ibanez fanboy, I love my 4 RGs.... must... get.... a... JEM/JPM... they're lonely 😉, oh, and a baritone RG!

  • @vtz7
    @vtz7 2 роки тому +2

    Vai, Petrucci, Korn

  • @thesquillyexperience9442
    @thesquillyexperience9442 2 роки тому +3

    a lot of russian classical is on 7 string!

  • @adamwood87
    @adamwood87 2 роки тому

    i bought an Ibanez RG7 in 1996 because of Korn.

  • @aristocaster
    @aristocaster 2 роки тому +3

    In Soviet union they had 7 string acoustics like forever.
    Oh, ok it was on video too 😀

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  2 роки тому +1

      Yeh!

    • @aristocaster
      @aristocaster 2 роки тому

      @@johnnathancordy Maybe better if i wait to the end of the video before commenting, now i commented before i even started the video.

  • @RockStarOscarStern634
    @RockStarOscarStern634 Рік тому +1

    Actually the 7 String Guitar Originated in Russia hence the name "Russian Guitar"

  • @oskarkacin4104
    @oskarkacin4104 2 роки тому +1

    absolute legend demoing in an oodie lol

  • @cfibanez
    @cfibanez 2 роки тому +2

    If you don't play the 7th string, it's just like any other guitar.

    • @johnnathancordy
      @johnnathancordy  2 роки тому +8

      If the guitar sits in its case, it's just like any other guitar

  • @TheBbtlegit
    @TheBbtlegit 2 роки тому

    Not a fan of seven string guitars.

    • @Crabfather
      @Crabfather 2 роки тому

      More for the rest of us :-)

    • @TheBbtlegit
      @TheBbtlegit 2 роки тому

      @@Crabfather You can have them. Metal head.

    • @Crabfather
      @Crabfather 2 роки тому

      @@TheBbtlegit whoa there tiger, no need to get crispy. And actually no i don't play metal.