Jean Pain - English - Part 2
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2008
- Jean Pain - A french innovator who developed a compost based bio energy system that produced 100% of his energy needs. He heated water to 60 degrees celsius at a rate of 4 litres a minute which he used for washing and heating. He also distilled enough methane to run an electricity generator, cooking elements, and power his truck. This method of creating usable energy from composting materials has come to be known as Jean Pain Composting, or the Jean Pain Method.
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Incredible!!!! This is the knowledge they don’t want us to know!!
Soil scientist here : the composting hosts nitrogen fixing bacteria that feed on the sugars of cellulose and organic salts. These nitrogen fixers draw nitrogen from the air, and turn it into amino acids and other organic nitrogen compounds! The leftover organic matter is rich in lignin and other difficult to degrade compounds which are foraged by mushrooms, thus providing a durable material with excellent water holding capacity, insulation and slow decomposition to release minerals, and excellent soil structure for roots, irrigation and nutrient retention from leaching. Also, the mushroom digesting the wood compost turn the mineral soil into smaller and available salts for the whole rhizosphere, such as the precious phosphates, and in turn effectively builds soil from bedrock.
@benz merc As long as it was just wood you burned then yes, absolutely. spread it on the soil, don't dig it in. Just spread on top.
Just to add to his, I'm studying horticulture and this is exactly what we are learning in relation to soil. I'll take it one step further to say that dark Organic compounds or Humus behaves much like clay soil particles, they are negatively charged so attract positively charged ions within the soil. So ammonium, potassium, calcium etc. which are positively charged, will all be attracted to the dark organic compounds which means plants have a steady supply of nutrients but this positive/negative relationship also helps prevents leaching.
@@Pfessor_Moriarty Thanks for adding some simple explanations to the video here.. Makes sense!!
Thanks for adding some simple explanations to the video here.. Makes sense!!
beautiful
You are so great... Thank you for sharing this Idea.
yes, i think there may be real value here for community scale systems especially where there is already a steady supply of "waste" biomass like here on the olympic peninsula, WA to offset some amount of energy (oil/elec) imports...
Awesome, epic, great, inspiring!!!
I have built three homestyle biogas digesters which this past summer made biogas to run a small generator. This does work, I'm now trying to heat things with a compost pile.
I have done thirty years of work heating water with compost, it is wonderful. I even accidentally had a 'spontaneous combustion.' one time.
could add mushroom spawn into the mix for the final top layer of chips...provide a crop right off the pile and increase the biodiversity within the resulting compost
nice idea
Would it get too hot for the mycelium to produce?
@HomeDistiller
You have a point. This obviously will not work for you. Many people own 80 hectares of land or more. They may already sell logs. Limbs and brush are a waste product of logging. This process allows additional profit while logging sustainably. If my math is right 9,000L oil is equal to 2,380Gal. oil. When logging 10 hectares of forest per year; 10,000 Gallons of oil is a nice boost in profit worth about 35K. Also consider the tonnage of brush cities and towns collect per year.
Cant help but wonder if this could have helped prevent such disastrous bush fires in Australia.
Yes margot ,that is an understood..at least by anyone with a little ecological or gardering training, the return of some of the spent compost to the forest would result in a richer ecosystem!
A far better way to go than uncontrollable wildfires!!
California might also benefit from this idea.
We need a Green Corps of forest managers in Oz. I am doing this job, and it is so useful that it boggles the mind.
One day, in Paris, there will stand a solid gold statue of Jean and Ida Pain. Maybe it will be named the 'Bread of Life' and look a little like 'American Gothic.' This technique literally is the one that can save this poor beleaguered planet of ours.
THIS IS THE WAY
This is simply recreating mastodons and mammoths. Huge herbivores that contained large methane generators. Inputs were oxygen and wood and other low-value fodder. Outputs where heat, fertiliser and methane.
Ive got all the free truckloads of mulch that I want I'm going to go get it, chip it real fine, and do this to heat my house for FREE!
Did you ever do this?
@@elijahhmarshall lol 11 years later. He probably got buried under a mound of compost and consumed, converted into biogas
@patroersrick1
Insulating it might make it hotter, but it might also mess up the air exchange necessary for decomposition. You might have to compensate with a blower fan and perforated pipes.
Perhaps #JeanPain found the happy balance in the by foot compactor method so as not to catch fire on the compost? It's eo perfectly coned and smoothed. Im sure that the compost tea in the middle adds the needed moisture in a constant trickle or maybe a timed stream which is not visible on the video?
Such excellent process to get my thinker a thinking then me at thinkering...lol
Heavy hay mulches can protect the heap, encourage many worms to go up under the mulch, and also the hay insulates and keeps heat in without any disturbances to air interruption. Mulching your compost heap is an essential for really good results. Things like wet scraps, manure and green grass evaporate if not covered with a mulch.
Did you do it and did it work for you?
@HomeDistiller Maybe you don't need to go on that large a scale. You can use your grass and other bio-waste to say produce 10% of your gas. It's a start.
What is the website to buy the correct wood chipper to accomplish this
the other problem i see with this system is just plan logistics...
40 tons of brush per household per year? or 8 hectares of bush (according to the 40 tons of brush per hectare every 8 years) per household?
plus the time and money to process it (it really doesn't seem labor friendly)
bio-gas from organic waste would be the better option..
the infrastructure is already in place (your rubbish gets removed) the plants just need to be built
Did anyone notice.. This was not your typical Wood Chipper.. Seemed more like a wood shredder.. Hmm...
I noticed, and it looks like a sensible configuration for processing mixed brush. A chipper gets tangles around the shaft easily, so this looks like it could solve that issue.
This is a very good idea for the Mars Misson One. The fly with 1000 Meter long spaceship from ice (Habakuk Project. First we must build a dockyard on Moon or Space near Earth, bring the Material with Zeppelin in Space and thand we put one Ship full with to shred Wood. The Ship come back and we send them more. Ready :D
Uh huh sure...
Isn't burning the gas produced still bad for global warming though?
All decomposition produces greenhouse gases. The question is whether utility is gained or not. In Jean Pain’s case, he harvested forest brush that might otherwise have burned (off gassing but with no usefulness) or naturally decomposed (off gassing but with no usefulness). By intercepting the decomposition process and harvesting the gas he put it to use where otherwise it would be wasted. It would have been produced regardless, one way or the other. The KEY is that he is using gas that ISN’T a fossil fuel - I.e. one that is stable and locked up in earth.
you're missing the point if you're fixated on the Earth's thermostat.
Burning the gas is the key. Methane has only one carbon atom making it the cleanest of all the carbon-based fuels. Your natural gas is mostly methane. Methane exhaust gasses do not rob ozone in any way. The biggest ozone destroyers are nitrogen oxide compounds, which are produced by the millions of tons in jet exhaust.
@@bfalloon9028 Most undisturbed organic processes do not release methane into the atmosphere. Methane tends to remain in swamps and manure piles and is gradually evolved into humus. (A feed lot is a notable exception, as is a battery hen unit, or a pig sty.) But what Jean has done is completely brilliant, he has made a deadly hazard into many great resources.
....es heißt ein fünffaches mehr an energie....
nicht ein fünftel mehr energie, das wär dann nämlich weniger!!!!
How big was his team, looks very laborious