Please do a separate video on RAM. What are the advantages of 32GB or RAM over 16GB? Are you better off getting 64GB of RAM (or whatever RAM is highest), or are there diminishing returns in getting higher RAM after a certain number, such as 32GB?
There is no diminishing return on the amount of ram only the speeds involved. Windows and your apps need enough ram, and it's always better to have more ram then you need, that way you never run out and have to use your os drive to handle memory needs and cause massive slowdowns. Most home pc's can have 128-192gb of ram installed most only need 16-32, and the cost of ram these days it's worth the extra 30 bucks or so to buy a 2x16 gb kit or 32gb and never run out of ram.
I remember back in the mid 80's, I believe it was a Compaq 286, possibly a 386, but I worked for a large telecommunications company that only purchased Compaq computers. Available computer RAM memory was very limited and used hard disk memory to fill its needs (very slow). The computer program I used took a minimum of 3 days to complete all the processing. Power hits were a big problem as the PC's would turn off and have to restart processing. Yes, I had a type of UPS on mine. My boss was not a mainframe computer fan. So I contacted the Compaq engineer assigned to us and he designed MEGA memory cards (at that time) for the slots and rewrote the BIOS to support the massive RAM increase as the standard BIOS. The 3 days of processing was reduced to about 4 to 6 hours depending on the program options that I needed. I then distributed the bios and RAM memory cards to the other 5 companies that I was responsible for and even got a nice bonus at the end of that year. I believe the BIOS and memory cards cost us around $18K back then.
Hi Leo, love your channel! I have a question regarding Win 11 optimization for audio. I will be buying a new computer pretty soon, and it will be used strictly for audio work. I have an external audio interface so I won't be relying on the computer for its sound card, and even GPU isn't important in my case. All I am looking for is a stable Windows system that won't get in the way, and is stripped down to the very basics. Of course system security is a must, but I won't be needing all of the extra baggage windows comes with. Could you point me to some good resources on this issue. Hope it makes sense.
That's why I always have 64gb of RAM(DDR5) on whatever computer I am buying/using. To me, it makes sense to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
especially true for chrome browser and especially adobe premire and photoshop which are memory hogs another solution is turn of pagefile.sys and problem solved if the pagefile is turned off no virtual memory can be used hence saving hd space
As always, this is an interesting video; however, the podcast format points out the problems without offering practical solutions. It is my experience that the performance of many programs remains the same despite technological advances.
Excellent topic and well explained (as usual). I periodically use IObit's Performance Monitor to manually release RAM, but even so, sometimes my system freezes, forcing me to push the power button, restart, and recreate data I may have lost. I assume it's because I ran out of RAM but I can't find the real reason (even in the Event Viewer log). Any suggestions on how to do so?
In the 70s, magnetic tape was a common medium to store computer memory. Around 1980 magnetic discs began commonly replacing tape. During that time, I was taught that floppy disks, and later hard disks, fell under the category of RAM because of their ability to provide direct memory access, unlike tape. So now, when I hear that hard disk memory is not RAM, I find it confusing.
I've got 64GB of RAM. I didn't need all of that, but I wanted it. My computer usually uses about 18% of that. I thought more RAM would cut back on SWAP usage, but it doesn't that I can tell. I have all SSD drives in my system, but I don't think it will need to write to them. So what is a SWAP? A page file thing or what?
Browsers tend to use large amounts of RAM. I never understood why they hog so much RAM. So when you open dozens of tabs, you will see your RAM get gobbled up. Then you decide to close lots of your browser's tabs, and your RAM usage drops only a bit, and is still high. Sometimes programs do not fully release their hold on RAM, but that RAM would be made available to other programs, if need be. Sometimes you have to open other RAM hungry programs to see the aforementioned RAM get released. I have had times where Task Manager showed me that I was using 98% of my RAM. So I started up a virtual machine, that I allocated 8 GB of RAM. But according to Task Manager, I had approximately only 1 GB of free RAM. When I started up the virtual machine, my 98% usage of RAM plummeted down to 25% RAM usage, because the new virtual machine told Windows that it needs RAM, and so Windows released the RAM that looked like it was in use. My guess is that all of that RAM was caching something that was, at some point, running, and would have come in handy if I re-started whatever was previously using all of the RAM. So Windows seems to have marked it as in use, but available.
Thanks for this. Can you explain CPU usage as well? Does it work in a similar way, with the system allocating what it can? My laptop sometimes goes up to 100% with Windows Defender scanning an external drive. It doesn’t stay up there the whole time. No other user apps running. Does it use 100% because it can? And thank you for Task Manager!
it's pretty simple windows needs a certain amount of cpu to run, usually 1 core maybe 2 depending. Your apps use cores as needed. If you are playing games for instance you might use 4 of your 8 cores or you might use 8 of 16, depends on the game, firefox for example usually only uses 1 core, obs uses 2 cores ghost recon breakpoint the game can easily goggle up 8 real cores and 4 threaded cors on a 8/16 cpu and so on. winzip/7zip will use all of your cores, it depends what you use your pc for. If you edit movies 16/32 cpu's are the way forward, 99% of gamers only need 6/12 or 8/16 cores unless steaming then 12/24 or 16/32's are a better option and so forth.
Graphics programs are able to, by user error, use huge amounts of memory. Mine has user set image restore levels. If you set it to one, there will be two copies of the image in memory. If you set it to ten, there will be eleven copies. If you are an idiot and set it to 255, well you get it!
If your pc has 8gb of ram these days, you really need to update the amount of ram you have, if you are running 32bit windows. it's time. You need a new pc. No amount of wishing and hoping is going to help if you can only access 3.2gb of system ram and 30 gb partitions.. It's time to come into the 2020's.
Please do a separate video on RAM. What are the advantages of 32GB or RAM over 16GB? Are you better off getting 64GB of RAM (or whatever RAM is highest), or are there diminishing returns in getting higher RAM after a certain number, such as 32GB?
There is no diminishing return on the amount of ram only the speeds involved. Windows and your apps need enough ram, and it's always better to have more ram then you need, that way you never run out and have to use your os drive to handle memory needs and cause massive slowdowns. Most home pc's can have 128-192gb of ram installed most only need 16-32, and the cost of ram these days it's worth the extra 30 bucks or so to buy a 2x16 gb kit or 32gb and never run out of ram.
I remember back in the mid 80's, I believe it was a Compaq 286, possibly a 386, but I worked for a large telecommunications company that only purchased Compaq computers. Available computer RAM memory was very limited and used hard disk memory to fill its needs (very slow). The computer program I used took a minimum of 3 days to complete all the processing. Power hits were a big problem as the PC's would turn off and have to restart processing. Yes, I had a type of UPS on mine. My boss was not a mainframe computer fan. So I contacted the Compaq engineer assigned to us and he designed MEGA memory cards (at that time) for the slots and rewrote the BIOS to support the massive RAM increase as the standard BIOS. The 3 days of processing was reduced to about 4 to 6 hours depending on the program options that I needed. I then distributed the bios and RAM memory cards to the other 5 companies that I was responsible for and even got a nice bonus at the end of that year. I believe the BIOS and memory cards cost us around $18K back then.
Hi Leo, love your channel! I have a question regarding Win 11 optimization for audio. I will be buying a new computer pretty soon, and it will be used strictly for audio work. I have an external audio interface so I won't be relying on the computer for its sound card, and even GPU isn't important in my case. All I am looking for is a stable Windows system that won't get in the way, and is stripped down to the very basics. Of course system security is a must, but I won't be needing all of the extra baggage windows comes with. Could you point me to some good resources on this issue. Hope it makes sense.
That's why I always have 64gb of RAM(DDR5) on whatever computer I am buying/using. To me, it makes sense to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
especially true for chrome browser and especially adobe premire and photoshop which are memory hogs another solution is turn of pagefile.sys and problem solved if the pagefile is turned off no virtual memory can be used hence saving hd space
yes, Google Chrome is a memory hog
@@davinp yea especilly when watchen live videos on youtube was taking just youtube page 2.1gb insame
As always, this is an interesting video; however, the podcast format points out the problems without offering practical solutions. It is my experience that the performance of many programs remains the same despite technological advances.
Excellent topic and well explained (as usual). I periodically use IObit's Performance Monitor to manually release RAM, but even so, sometimes my system freezes, forcing me to push the power button, restart, and recreate data I may have lost. I assume it's because I ran out of RAM but I can't find the real reason (even in the Event Viewer log). Any suggestions on how to do so?
"Manually releasing RAM" does nothing. Windows is best suited to manage its own ram, and those add on tools that claim otherwise do little or nothing.
@@askleonotenboom Yes. I learnt that the hard, and expensive way.
In the 70s, magnetic tape was a common medium to store computer memory. Around 1980 magnetic discs began commonly replacing tape. During that time, I was taught that floppy disks, and later hard disks, fell under the category of RAM because of their ability to provide direct memory access, unlike tape. So now, when I hear that hard disk memory is not RAM, I find it confusing.
I've got 64GB of RAM. I didn't need all of that, but I wanted it. My computer usually uses about 18% of that. I thought more RAM would cut back on SWAP usage, but it doesn't that I can tell. I have all SSD drives in my system, but I don't think it will need to write to them. So what is a SWAP? A page file thing or what?
Swap/page file is a portion of memory windows uses to cache frequently accessed memory points and apps and settings.
Thanks for the lesson Leo. JimE
My Atari 2600 has 128 bytes of RAM.
Whoo hoo!
Browsers tend to use large amounts of RAM. I never understood why they hog so much RAM. So when you open dozens of tabs, you will see your RAM get gobbled up.
Then you decide to close lots of your browser's tabs, and your RAM usage drops only a bit, and is still high.
Sometimes programs do not fully release their hold on RAM, but that RAM would be made available to other programs, if need be.
Sometimes you have to open other RAM hungry programs to see the aforementioned RAM get released.
I have had times where Task Manager showed me that I was using 98% of my RAM.
So I started up a virtual machine, that I allocated 8 GB of RAM. But according to Task Manager, I had approximately only 1 GB of free RAM.
When I started up the virtual machine, my 98% usage of RAM plummeted down to 25% RAM usage, because the new virtual machine told Windows that it needs RAM, and so Windows released the RAM that looked like it was in use.
My guess is that all of that RAM was caching something that was, at some point, running, and would have come in handy if I re-started whatever was previously using all of the RAM. So Windows seems to have marked it as in use, but available.
Thanks for this. Can you explain CPU usage as well? Does it work in a similar way, with the system allocating what it can? My laptop sometimes goes up to 100% with Windows Defender scanning an external drive. It doesn’t stay up there the whole time. No other user apps running. Does it use 100% because it can? And thank you for Task Manager!
it's pretty simple windows needs a certain amount of cpu to run, usually 1 core maybe 2 depending. Your apps use cores as needed. If you are playing games for instance you might use 4 of your 8 cores or you might use 8 of 16, depends on the game, firefox for example usually only uses 1 core, obs uses 2 cores ghost recon breakpoint the game can easily goggle up 8 real cores and 4 threaded cors on a 8/16 cpu and so on. winzip/7zip will use all of your cores, it depends what you use your pc for. If you edit movies 16/32 cpu's are the way forward, 99% of gamers only need 6/12 or 8/16 cores unless steaming then 12/24 or 16/32's are a better option and so forth.
Graphics programs are able to, by user error, use huge amounts of memory. Mine has user set image restore levels. If you set it to one, there will be two copies of the image in memory. If you set it to ten, there will be eleven copies. If you are an idiot and set it to 255, well you get it!
If your pc has 8gb of ram these days, you really need to update the amount of ram you have, if you are running 32bit windows. it's time. You need a new pc. No amount of wishing and hoping is going to help if you can only access 3.2gb of system ram and 30 gb partitions.. It's time to come into the 2020's.
right now 2.4gb of consumption by firefox, as w10 pro spanish october 20th 2024 in a 64gb of ram decade old computer i5- 6400 2.7GHz in a 2T ssd.