@@AndrewFenichel he’s never been an all star, his numbers are significantly worse than guys behind him, he’s hurt almost as much as Cade & Lamelo, he’s basically only had one great playoff run where he played out of his mind, not a great playmaker, past 3 season he hasn’t really improved and has seems to plateau as a 21/6 guy which is good just not 7th best pg in the league good
@@nbabackcourtmedia Fox over Hali is another world of disrespect tbh. Over Ja too? We r not taking into account eh fact he hasn't played that much, its just pure skill and impact and Ja is defo the better player. I can see ana argument for Trae but his playmaking is on another level
@ Fox is a better scorer than Haliburton and more consistently puts pressure on the defense. More versatile as scorer as well. The passing obviously goes to Haliburton but Fox is still a good passer and playmaker, his two man game with his bigs is phenomenal. And the defense, although Fox is no elite defender, still isn’t even close. Ja is closer for sure but the fact that Ja can’t space the floor really hurts him. Still a great player but Fox can finish at least close to as well while having an elite mid range game and a good 3 ball. And once again he’s much better defensively.
I just want to say this for all the ESPN merchants out here. Luka had a great all around defensive year before he got injured right before the playoffs and even early in the playoffs before it piled up. Statistically he was the 9th best ISO Defender and legitimately top 2-3 best PG defender all season long. You can tell it just got too much that he had to take painkiller injections before each game in the finals, he needed to conserve energy more than ever too to facilitate and score so he had to rely on team defense but Boston was just too good with their 5 man out offense. If Dallas had faced a team like the 2023 8th seed heat and not a literal superteam they would’ve won but they lost so the narrative shifted again and just blamed it all on Lukas defense cause its easy when his literal teammates couldn’t make open shots to save their lives and choked!
At first I thought you had a point and weren’t just being biased (I hate watching mavs games) as soon as you said top 3 defensive pg I realized you’re just stupid. 37 year old Mike Conley is a better defender than Luka, so is shai, jrue/white, Ja ( I get it if you don’t wanna count him) and probably some more In forgetting. This is one of the weakest eras in terms of defensively average pgs and Luka is STILL below average
Luka had to guard Amir Coffey, Lu Dort, and Jaden Mcdaniels hall of fame corner sitters he was fully healthy for the Celtics series and got blown by 70% of the time (highest in nba history)
@@TackoFaII Dallas Mavericks star Luka Doncic will play in Game 2 of the NBA Finals against the Boston Celtics on Sunday night despite being downgraded to questionable on the afternoon injury report. Doncic is dealing with a chest contusion (listed as thoracic contusion), a right knee sprain and left ankle soreness. -cbssports Get that hate out yo heart and quit yapping and spreading misinformation just to hate, there was literal photos of him courtside getting wrapped up full body like a mummy before each game cause he had multiple injuries. I hope you get break both of your legs and nobody would care or believe you you pos, also statistically and eye test wise he is an above avg defender this whole season and is a top tier pg defender cause there aint many lockdown pg defenders out there also hes the best guard post defender. I challenge you to watch full random 5 reg season games this season and tell me he still doesnt try defense this season, you cant have a 20 games stretch being the #1 defense with your starplayer not trying on defense. Majority of yall blacks just hate on luka just to hate cause he’s white, so ironic from a group of people who cry racism everytime. Even black analysts regularly slander luka & jokic and rarely gives credit when theyre doing good. Just keep on your narrative, eventually people will realize what yall are doing!!
@@TackoFaII Dallas Mavericks star Luka Doncic will play in Game 2 of the NBA Finals against the Boston Celtics on Sunday night despite being downgraded to questionable on the afternoon injury report. Doncic is dealing with a chest contusion (listed as thoracic contusion), a right knee sprain and left ankle soreness. -cbssports Get that hate out yo heart and quit yapping and spreading misinformation just to hate, there was literal photos of him courtside getting wrapped up full body like a mummy before each game cause he had multiple injuries. I hope you get break both of your legs and nobody would care or believe you you spos, also statistically and eye test wise he is an above avg defender this whole season and is a top tier pg defender cause there aint many lockdown pg defenders out there also hes the best guard post defender. I challenge you to watch full random 5 reg season games this season and tell me he still doesnt try defense this season, you cant have a 20 games stretch being the #1 defense with your starplayer not trying on defense. Majority of yall blacks just hate on luka just to hate cause he’s white, as a minority its so ironic from a group of people who cry racism everytime. Even black analysts regularly slander luka & jokic and rarely gives credit when theyre doing good. Just keep on your narrative, eventually people will realize what yall are doing!
A real list is 1. Luka 2. Shai 3. Brunsan(played better than curry last year and made playoffs and had a legendary performance) 4. Curry 5. Ja 6. Trae (played better than every one below him until he broke his wrist and he had a bad team) 7. Hali 8.Fox 9. Dame 10. Jrue or Derick whoever there PG is
Dame will be back in the top 6 by the end of this season. After a year Milwaukee and actually having an off-season/training camp to get ready. He’s boutta go crazy
@@wavyb0nesBrunson averaged 32ppg in last years playoffs and was burdened with being a 1 man offense with all of New Yorks injuries. Ja was out basically all last year and the playoff before that his team got upset as 2 seed and he only averaged 24ppg in the series. Jalen deserves higher ranking right now , Ja has to earn his status back.
@@chilldoc9638 Ja even a couple years ago wasn’t so much better than Brunson that you’d have to be trippin balls to pick Brunson. Brunsons season last year was arguably better than any season Ja had in total. Ja is just a more explosive highlight player but the numbers don’t show he’s better.
love to see coby white in the honorable mentions. dudes a beast and is gonna be our best player next year. sleepy all star pick if the bulls SOMEHOW play well
I think Harden is going to have a good year on paper, as he has a more involved role (barring injury).I also believe Dame is going to have a bounce back year, last year was tough for him not to mention the personal life crisis he was facing.
Shai is better Steph. We saw it last year. He was better than Luka in normal season. If he could past Luka in the playoffs he would be the best PG in the NBA.
@@ILuvTheMavsBetter Advanced Stats everywhere also Way More efficient than luka and better defender.. Shai had a Higher PER than Luka and Better FG%, TS%, FT% shot Way better from the Mid Range Etc.
@@DaKiddYam_573 he’s a great role player but people put him above guys who are better number 1 and 2nd options than he is due to winning bias. When Jrue is a 3rd option at best and people for forget he can be very inconsistent in the playoffs he a great player but he’s a role player but people put him over actually star level players because of rings
@@anobsessedrangersfan_21 Bro I’m not glazing Steph has had one of the biggest impacts of anybody in the NBA. He made 3 point shooting a go to scoring option for everyone today
Trae has been averaging 27 AND 10 FOR HIS CAREER!!! Jamal Murray Is not better than him or De'araon of hell even dame tbh. You're insane for putting a guy who's the main reason his team lost last year. Murray couldn't perform against anyone but the lakers. Also ranking JA at 4 Is absurd. I don't care how good he Is whenever he's healthy or on the court. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN 2 YEARS
im a nuggets fan and im not sure id even put jamal that high... but i mean his 2023 playoffs is a top 5 recent peak out of everyone here so I'm not gonna complain
Jamal js isn’t better than Trae or even De’Aaron for that matter
he is more of a consistent scorer in the playoffs and regular season
Trae yes deaaron Fox no.
Trae is underrated, Jamal is def worse
@@kailencitron6839 fox yes Trae no
@@akanatural986 nga don’t watch hoops 😭
I agree with everything you said except the Jamal Murray take,he needs to be at 9,good video though
Murray at 7 is crazy
is it? why
Wayyyyyy too high
@@AndrewFenichel hes not above fox
yall overreacting
@@AndrewFenichel he’s never been an all star, his numbers are significantly worse than guys behind him, he’s hurt almost as much as Cade & Lamelo, he’s basically only had one great playoff run where he played out of his mind, not a great playmaker, past 3 season he hasn’t really improved and has seems to plateau as a 21/6 guy which is good just not 7th best pg in the league good
Jamal is way too high imo, and Fox is way too low
Jamal is 10 but Fox aint any higher then 8 lmao. Personally, I have him below Trae still
@ I’d personally have him top 5. I think he’s better than Haliburton, Trae, Murray, and Ja
@@nbabackcourtmedia Fox over Hali is another world of disrespect tbh. Over Ja too? We r not taking into account eh fact he hasn't played that much, its just pure skill and impact and Ja is defo the better player. I can see ana argument for Trae but his playmaking is on another level
@ Fox is a better scorer than Haliburton and more consistently puts pressure on the defense. More versatile as scorer as well. The passing obviously goes to Haliburton but Fox is still a good passer and playmaker, his two man game with his bigs is phenomenal. And the defense, although Fox is no elite defender, still isn’t even close. Ja is closer for sure but the fact that Ja can’t space the floor really hurts him. Still a great player but Fox can finish at least close to as well while having an elite mid range game and a good 3 ball. And once again he’s much better defensively.
Brunson should be either 3, or 4, 5th in MVP voting definitely deserves it.
He IS NOT better than Curry. Stop.
@@IamNotTreyyou glazing. Curry isn’t better than Brunson
@@IamNotTrey he said 3rd or 4th, not over Curry. Stop it
@@IamNotTreyhe is better than Curry just accept that Curry is not top five point guard anymore
Oh man i know dame is falling off but man… just seeing him that low feels off to me
he's still good! PG is loaded, being 10th honestly shouldn't be as negative as it sounds
He bouta have a great year bro
He said yesterday at the media day conference, “my teammates are going to get the real version of me this year”. I’m expecting a big season for dame.
@@AndrewFenichelyou underrating tf out of him. This year gonna make you look dumb for this ranking.
he ain’t falling off at all
Tyrese Maxey hate needs to stop
he’s not top 10 yet but hes close
he's a SG imo, he'll be in tomorrow's vid
I wouldn't personally classify him as a pg
Trae is hated more
@@AndrewFenichelThen who’s the PG on the Sixers?
Literally zero argument for curry above Shai in 2024
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Olympics
@@ShivayuvanJshut up curry hater
@@bsmoove2357 SGA had a better Olympics than curry lol, curry was dogshit then entire time then showed up the final 2 games
Clicking expecting Shai to be an honorable mention
this dude has always had some kind of personal beef with shai lol
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@@everyonesaidmynamewasstupi3713 i mean he was fairly ranked this time, cus theres no way he's better than luka or curry
@@Nyeppie he’s clearly better than curry at this point bro but i could agree luka is better, though not by that much
@@Nyeppieyou curry stans/SGA haters are delusional
This guy will never stop hating on Shai
If we're going off the most recent season, I seriously just don't get how Steph is STILL over Shai for you lol but #1 is correct tho
Using the olympics as evidence is downright humorous
Mb didn't know Maxey fell of the face of the earth
Maxey was so cold last year!!
I have him as a 2
@@AndrewFenichelhe’s not tho, sixers have oubre as their 2
@@Martin194-h3vGeorge is the 2
@@BANJsports no he isn’t? He’s too big for that and he’s been a sf all his career
The Luka trade must haunt the hawks gm every day
I just want to say this for all the ESPN merchants out here. Luka had a great all around defensive year before he got injured right before the playoffs and even early in the playoffs before it piled up. Statistically he was the 9th best ISO Defender and legitimately top 2-3 best PG defender all season long. You can tell it just got too much that he had to take painkiller injections before each game in the finals, he needed to conserve energy more than ever too to facilitate and score so he had to rely on team defense but Boston was just too good with their 5 man out offense. If Dallas had faced a team like the 2023 8th seed heat and not a literal superteam they would’ve won but they lost so the narrative shifted again and just blamed it all on Lukas defense cause its easy when his literal teammates couldn’t make open shots to save their lives and choked!
Luka is a cone on defense, tf u mean he was a top 2 PG defender
At first I thought you had a point and weren’t just being biased (I hate watching mavs games) as soon as you said top 3 defensive pg I realized you’re just stupid. 37 year old Mike Conley is a better defender than Luka, so is shai, jrue/white, Ja ( I get it if you don’t wanna count him) and probably some more In forgetting. This is one of the weakest eras in terms of defensively average pgs and Luka is STILL below average
Luka had to guard Amir Coffey, Lu Dort, and Jaden Mcdaniels hall of fame corner sitters he was fully healthy for the Celtics series and got blown by 70% of the time (highest in nba history)
@@TackoFaII Dallas Mavericks star Luka Doncic will play in Game 2 of the NBA Finals against the Boston Celtics on Sunday night despite being downgraded to questionable on the afternoon injury report. Doncic is dealing with a chest contusion (listed as thoracic contusion), a right knee sprain and left ankle soreness. -cbssports
Get that hate out yo heart and quit yapping and spreading misinformation just to hate, there was literal photos of him courtside getting wrapped up full body like a mummy before each game cause he had multiple injuries. I hope you get break both of your legs and nobody would care or believe you you pos, also statistically and eye test wise he is an above avg defender this whole season and is a top tier pg defender cause there aint many lockdown pg defenders out there also hes the best guard post defender. I challenge you to watch full random 5 reg season games this season and tell me he still doesnt try defense this season, you cant have a 20 games stretch being the #1 defense with your starplayer not trying on defense. Majority of yall blacks just hate on luka just to hate cause he’s white, so ironic from a group of people who cry racism everytime. Even black analysts regularly slander luka & jokic and rarely gives credit when theyre doing good. Just keep on your narrative, eventually people will realize what yall are doing!!
@@TackoFaII Dallas Mavericks star Luka Doncic will play in Game 2 of the NBA Finals against the Boston Celtics on Sunday night despite being downgraded to questionable on the afternoon injury report. Doncic is dealing with a chest contusion (listed as thoracic contusion), a right knee sprain and left ankle soreness. -cbssports
Get that hate out yo heart and quit yapping and spreading misinformation just to hate, there was literal photos of him courtside getting wrapped up full body like a mummy before each game cause he had multiple injuries. I hope you get break both of your legs and nobody would care or believe you you spos, also statistically and eye test wise he is an above avg defender this whole season and is a top tier pg defender cause there aint many lockdown pg defenders out there also hes the best guard post defender. I challenge you to watch full random 5 reg season games this season and tell me he still doesnt try defense this season, you cant have a 20 games stretch being the #1 defense with your starplayer not trying on defense. Majority of yall blacks just hate on luka just to hate cause he’s white, as a minority its so ironic from a group of people who cry racism everytime. Even black analysts regularly slander luka & jokic and rarely gives credit when theyre doing good. Just keep on your narrative, eventually people will realize what yall are doing!
Dame finna shock all the doubters this season
Tyrese Haliburton's season last year was like his voice, always changing
Imo its
1.) Luka (don’t overthink it)
2.) SGA
3.) Curry
4.) Brunson
5.) Ja
6.) Hali
7.) Trae
8.) Maxey
9.) Dame
10.) Fox
Steph over brunson is crazy
My list
10. Murray
9. Lillard
8. Maxey
7. Fox
6. Haliburton
5. Ja morant
4. Steph
3. Brunson
2. Shai
1. Luka
Hb cade Cunningham
Maxey is a little high but great list
@@JackNancarrowEBNYKTOTAUS Young is definitely top 10
This is a much better list than his
SGA IS SO.FCKIN UNDERRATED
1. Luka
2. Shai
3. Curry
4. Trae
5. Brunson
6. Ja
7. Fox
8. Hali
9. Dame
10. Maxey
Trae is not better than any of 1-8
@@goatnbaclips facts
Steph over brunson is crazy also trae is bum
@@JackNancarrowEBNYKTOTAUShow is Trae a bum? Cause of defense? Harden won an MVP and has bad defense, you def a casual or a dumbass
A real list is
1. Luka
2. Shai
3. Brunsan(played better than curry last year and made playoffs and had a legendary performance)
4. Curry
5. Ja
6. Trae (played better than every one below him until he broke his wrist and he had a bad team)
7. Hali
8.Fox
9. Dame
10. Jrue or Derick whoever there PG is
"C'mon now, don't overthink it"
Same guy who said on the Finals "Give me Mavs at six" with a overconfident face
Famous line “don’t overthink it “
No Darius garland at all is actually crazy
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Dame will be back in the top 6 by the end of this season. After a year Milwaukee and actually having an off-season/training camp to get ready. He’s boutta go crazy
Finally someone else respects Ja.
Besides Jamal this is a solid list.
Brunson>Ja easily
U trippin balls brother
@@wavyb0nesBrunson averaged 32ppg in last years playoffs and was burdened with being a 1 man offense with all of New Yorks injuries. Ja was out basically all last year and the playoff before that his team got upset as 2 seed and he only averaged 24ppg in the series. Jalen deserves higher ranking right now , Ja has to earn his status back.
@@juju-vl7ojearn his status back? Ja has had great playoff series too and led his team to more wins
Because nba fans have the memory of a goldfish
@@chilldoc9638 Ja even a couple years ago wasn’t so much better than Brunson that you’d have to be trippin balls to pick Brunson. Brunsons season last year was arguably better than any season Ja had in total. Ja is just a more explosive highlight player but the numbers don’t show he’s better.
Do your top ten nba players all time
Jamal and Ja glaze is wild
For those saying Murray is too high think about the playoffs, he could be around 3-4 in the playoffs and that’s when the good play really matters
love to see coby white in the honorable mentions. dudes a beast and is gonna be our best player next year. sleepy all star pick if the bulls SOMEHOW play well
The ben Simmons hate needs to stop
pt 2 shooting guards??
I think Harden is going to have a good year on paper, as he has a more involved role (barring injury).I also believe Dame is going to have a bounce back year, last year was tough for him not to mention the personal life crisis he was facing.
Ja at 5, I’m a big ja fan but we’ve got to make sure he’ll be healthy before I put him above Brunson after the season he had last year
Jalen curtain at 5 is crazy
Ngl a perfect list
Shai is better Steph. We saw it last year. He was better than Luka in normal season. If he could past Luka in the playoffs he would be the best PG in the NBA.
Remove Jamal Murray out of here. Brunson is better than Ja. And where is Tyrese Maxey
@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-c4z Maxey is more a 2
How was shai better than Luka in the regular season?
He wasn't better than luka in the normal season
@@ILuvTheMavsBetter Advanced Stats everywhere also Way More efficient than luka and better defender.. Shai had a Higher PER than Luka and Better FG%, TS%, FT% shot Way better from the Mid Range Etc.
jamal is NOT a top 7. he's only top 7 when he plays the lakers
Andrew is never beating the SGA Hate allegations
Mike Conley needs some respect on his name, wolves lost almost every playoff game without him
I honestly don’t think I’ve ever seen a short from you that I agreed with. I struggle to believe you process what you watch
Jamal Murray is becoming one of the most overrated guards along with jrue holiday
And ja
U high if u think Jrue Holiday is overrated. He’s been one of the most criminally underrated players in the league since his 76ers days.
@@DaKiddYam_573 he’s a great role player but people put him above guys who are better number 1 and 2nd options than he is due to winning bias. When Jrue is a 3rd option at best and people for forget he can be very inconsistent in the playoffs he a great player but he’s a role player but people put him over actually star level players because of rings
@@spidamitchell8311 the NBA fanbase just be yapping and be having horrible takes you are even more drunk than wrestle kingdom.
@@Wrestle_Kingdom like who? People are high on Jrue because of his defense btw. U acting like people got Jrue in the top 20.
Dawg Cade was healthy last season and he was balling
at this point, the fact that "Ja is slept on" is used so much he feels overrated
Luka glazers are crazy
?
It’s not even glazing. It’s the truth when you look Luka’s impact and stats
@@ashishronak5774 If we’re talking about impact it’s Steph
@@ShrekspickleticklerSteph glazers are even more crazy
@@anobsessedrangersfan_21 Bro I’m not glazing Steph has had one of the biggest impacts of anybody in the NBA. He made 3 point shooting a go to scoring option for everyone today
Now maxey is crazy Andrew u r wild for that he would be the best on ur favorite team
Shai hate still evident
Well he ain’t above curry or luka
@@luchallberg173he’s been better than curry
@@luchallberg173shai is #1😤
@@JL-eq8ex SGA is not better than Luka The numbers prove it
@@wlr2597cocain
Murray above Tate young is absolutely criminal 💀
Maxey deserves some love but I like Jamal at 7, I think a lot of people underrate him
Coby White at 10 for me
1. Shai
2. Luka
3. Curry
4. Brunson
5. Maxey
6. Trae
7. Ja
8. Hali
9. Dame
10. Fox
HM: Kyrie, Lamelo, Jamal
luka is 1 😭
My list
10. Murray
9. Lillard
8. Maxey
7. Fox
6. Haliburton
5. Ja morant
4. Steph
3. Brunson
2. Shai
1. Luka
Hb cade Cunningham
@@mekk17 that’s what I meant to put
@@JackNancarrowEBNYKTOTAUS Perfect list, although trae is definitely ahead of cade for an honorable mention spot
@@70bugs I am a knicks fan trae is bum
Jalen Brunson is still so underrated
Hes overrated. Look at his team and he lost to the PACERS💀Give Curry and Luka that knicks roster and they just might repeat chips.
Murray at 6 is absolutely wild I say he’s 10
Pure skill Jamal is 10
Maxey not even mentioned is crazy
yea really good list bro
MVP runner up at 3 😭😂✌🏻
Love the Steph respect
Even though Ja missed a huge chunk of the season, putting him over Brunson is sacrilege.
Trae and Murray above fox is crazy
Cade will be a top 10 PG by All Star break🔒
Trae has been averaging 27 AND 10 FOR HIS CAREER!!! Jamal Murray Is not better than him or De'araon of hell even dame tbh. You're insane for putting a guy who's the main reason his team lost last year. Murray couldn't perform against anyone but the lakers.
Also ranking JA at 4 Is absurd. I don't care how good he Is whenever he's healthy or on the court. WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT IN 2 YEARS
dame is top 5
im a nuggets fan and im not sure id even put jamal that high... but i mean his 2023 playoffs is a top 5 recent peak out of everyone here so I'm not gonna complain
Dame there is so wild… Murray and him change
Honestly, I'd take both Trae Young and De'Aaron Fox over Jamal Murray. I feel like De'Aaron Fox is the most underrated player in the NBA.
When will we get top 10 qbs
Is this a projection for the year or where they are currently?
Finnaly Steph’s getting his respect
The D fox disrespect is crazy
Bro has coby white in his honorable mentions but not Tyrese Maxey, damn
SG
@@ryancarlson8297 how is tyrese maxey a sg?
@@amogh11111 look at the other video
@@ryancarlson8297 that doesn't matter when i put this comment the sg vid didnt come out, and everyone and their moms know maxey is a pg
@@amogh11111point guards pass
Dame gonna prove you wrong this season
I watched every Sixers game last season. If Maxey is a PG… don’t overthink it 😂
Why does Luka kinda look like Andrew tho 😂
Trae below murray is crazy
If trae+jokic were on a team together on my soul they’d he 3peating by now 😭
Jrue holiday has to be top 10 at least, man is an absolute winner
Its insane how much people sleep on fox
Somebody gotta tell Ja to hide the gats, maybe then we won't forget
Terrible list. You put Ant over Mitchell
The Killian Hayes disrespect is crazy😢
bro tried to sneak coby white into the honourable mentions
i’m taking dfox over hali
Facts real hoopers know
Nope you casuals
Good list
it’s not even when ja is healthy, it’s when he keeps the glock at home that he’s amazing
Ja has done nothing to deserve being ahead of Brunson!
I’m just glad De’aaron fox isn’t an honorable mention
Maxey should easily be number 7
SGA should be #1 he came second on MVP voting and lead the youngest 1 seed in NBA history while leading the league in steals
And got beat by an injured Luka.
@@vantianhergheligiu12 no he got beat by the depth and experience of the Mavs
Gimme Jrue Holiday!!!! dude is the key to winning
Swap bronson and ja Morant and that’s a good list.
no cp3 honorable mention is wild
He’s not very good anymore
People forgot how good ja is
No dejounte in this or the SG video is kinda crazy
Ok the SECOND best 2-way gaurd on the list is 9
Dame is still a top 5 guard imo
Are you also gonna do the SG, SF, PF, and C positions?
Edit: I’m now realizing that that would makes a lot of sense.
Yep! Posting one per day this werk
week
@@AndrewFenichel Ok nice
Murray over Trae is wild and Brunson is a way better leader than Ja has ever been and also Maxey not even being a mention is hella DIABOLICAL
Brother said Jamal over Trae, Fox, and Dame 😭
the luka glaze is crazy
So a 33 9 10 Statline plus a finals appearance in one season beign number 1 is glazing?
@@Sway1215 yes
Bro got me scared until 2 I was gonna say where curry at