He was so obsessed with being historically famous, yet what he was remembered for was being a horrible human being who had many wives in his pursuit for a male heir, executing two of his wives. One of them no older than a child. If he only knew that his DAUGHTER from this woman(Anne Boelyn) he executed would far surpass him in everything and be known as one of the best monarchs in history lol
She dragged us into an unwinnable war for 16 years. And Henry is far more famous than almost any other monarch. His ruthless pursuit of power forever changed the country and it was his will that allowed Elizabeth to take the throne.
Historians agree that it was Henry’s fault he could never have any healthy heirs. He had syphilis. 2 out of the 3 legitimate children he had lived into adulthood and only 1 lived until she was into her senior years. His long awaited son died young after only a few years on the throne, his first child was chronically ill and had an array of mental issues thanks to the “treatments” she had to be subjected to. His second child lived into old age but was also unable to have a child. His last wife was able to have healthy children with her next husband so we know she wasn’t the problem, but of course this was the era where people always blamed the woman 🤷♀️
That's kind of oversimplified. Henry was more than capable of having children, Catherine of Aragon had as many as 7 stillbirths/miscarriages, and did bear a living son but he died after just a few months; they were just chronically unlucky, their child mortality rate was unusually high for the time. Henry and Anne were only married for 3 years and she had 4 pregnancies in that time, Elizabeth, then 2 miscarriages and a stillbirth. Its speculated that she had Kells syndrome, the first child is healthy but she wouldn't ever be able to bear another to term successfully. Jane died tragically, and he never actually consummated his marriage with Anne of Cleves. He was married to Catherine Howard for just a year and he was very overweight and unhealthy then so conceiving at that point was probably pretty unlikely anyways. And when it comes to Catherine Parr, she had been married twice before and hadn't had children, she thought herself barren, neither of them really expected to have a child anyways at that point. I think you're confusing Mary with Juana of Castille, Catherine of Aragon's older sister. She was tortured by her mother Isabella for her apparent lack of faith and was widely believed to be mad, Mary never appeared to have had any health problems until her 40s. And Elizabeth wasn't infertile, she just never married, she was probably entirely capable of having children.
I was told when I contracted chlamydia there is a chance I won’t be able to have kids when you contract an std it sometimes leaves you unable to have children and if you do your child might be very sick I felt like my life was over because of one mistake if you do have children they might be sickly there is a chance of it
@@matthewhart9610 No one said he couldn't bare children. Just not healthy ones. Catherine had those miscarriages with him, it could have perfectly been his fault the baby was not healthy and resulted in miscarriage.
@@matthewhart9610 Mary did suffer several false pregnancies, however, and never had a baby. We now suspect she had something of the likes of PCOS or cancer.
As much as I agree she didn’t deserve what happened to her … Cathrine didn’t deserve what Anne helped do to her either .. no one seems to remember she was the true queen of England forgotten, betrayed and killed with a broken heart …
To me, it’s seems she helped make it happen. She assisted/pushed his break with the Catholic Church to replace Catherine. So really, she got what she gave. She was happy to push aside his true wife and helped make it law so he could set her aside as well.
Finding out some his other wives had children before him and after him ( if they survived) just goes to show how it was him who couldn’t bare the heir not the women he tormented
None of his wives had children before marrying him. Only one wife had a child after him and that’s his final wife who bore a child after he died, with Jane Seymour’s brother. Only two of his wives outlived him, Anne of Cleves and Catherine Parr. Anne never remarried, she had no children. Catherine Parr thought herself barren after producing no children with her first two husbands. She died after giving birth to a daughter who likely died around the age of 2.
@@matthewhart9610exactly. And many historians think Catherine Parr was more of a nurse maid than a sexual partner at that stage in his life given he was overweight, bed bound a lot of time and had chronic pustules all over his legs that apparently smelled so they bad they stunk up the room and made it hard for him to be very active. He put a lot of trust in Catherine Parr to make decisions in his absence but it’s unlikely according to historians that they were very sexually active to conceive a child.
Yeah he tormented Anne to be terrible to Catherine and plot her death and her daughter’s. Not all of these women were victims like y’all want to claim. Catherine was absolutely. She earned her place as queen helped the country in war and other things. Anne up jumped her way into his bed and got what she deserved. Y’all love to play the victim card
@@YoutubinWithBeaow did you not know about King Henry the 8th and Anne Boleyn and all his six wives? It’s probably the most famous story in all European monarchy history. It’s the event that’s start a religious revolution!
@@el8568 No he would yell at her if she simply was just being herself like if she stated her opinion and he didn’t like it she would get yelled at and she was extremely stressed out especially right before she lost this baby in the clip she literally went to his chambers happy and wanted to just go talk to him and she opened the door and he was cheating on her while pregnant hormonal he was making out with Jane Seymour she was on his lap of course she gonna pop off in that situation
The women ARE partly to blame. He didn’t force himself on her. So really, she reaped what she sowed. She helped push Catherine out so it’s kinda poetic that came back on her
I read somewhere that Henry had a serious jousting accident where his horse landed on him and he was unconscious for 2 hours. It was shortly after this that Anne lost her baby. Henry also had marked personality changes which is now ascribed to brain damage from the accident as well has the ulcer on his leg which left him debilitated for the rest of his life.
His alleged brain damage severely altered his personality & led to his historical monstrosities. Medically, they simply were unaware of the brain damage & personality changes that head concussions can cause. If true, he bears little blame for the horrors that unfolded. It could have been a medical condition that he simply couldn't help. Tragic.
Ik Anne wasnt a nice person either but this miscarriage definitely wasn't her fault. Henry didn't care for his wives, he only cared for his name to continue on through history Edit: Omg over 500 likes, Tysm everyone😮
That’s very true.! But do we really know Anne was that bad or any other women he had. History is writing by men like Henry. 😅 Still in the end anne had the biggest laugh. Her hair was indeed the greatest name of the last Tudors 😌
@@queenofkillss717 and it was also written by people that hated the royals and wanted to always see them fall. History is always written to change the views of the future. That's why we never change
@@queenofkillss717 Right? I'm sure if I read the history of my relationship from the viewpoint of my ex, I wouldn't be painted as a saint. Most men like to use the line, "All my exes were crazy." 🙃
@@queenofkillss717 we don't for sure but Anne and Henry were both celebrating Catherine Aragon's death and Anne was wearing yellow which is known to be a happy colour so she clearly didn't care for Catherine and her feelings at all...
@@Quinn856 that’s true. ( sorry my main language isn’t English so I try to put my words on it ). Tho I believe women back then were very much paws in politic. Offcours Anne push the buttons in her time with getting Henry. Every story have 2 sides.
You can actually see at the end where he realizes that she is right. That he can't solely blame her for the loss, he shouldn't have been messing around in the first place. And yes I know that it was his right but he could've not risked it
@@leylasanchezgarcia No.He was just a king,who has been above everyone in the country,and lived long time ago,when they thought it is all the women's fault. But you people are really very silly who judge him with eyes of 21th century.
@@pancon9947 He literally killed(sent to execution) so many people,just as many kings and queens(by the way,the so much beloved Elizabeth did the very same thing) by that time.Anne was said to be betraying the king,against Katherine Howard they found proof as well. Again,you guys don't understand that these things were considered completely accepted and normal.The King himself was a king by God's will,he could do anything he liked.He did nothing extreme by executing the cheater and betrayer wives,by the way not the only one in history.
the way Natalie Dormer portrayed her role in this scene was awe-inspiring I hope actors like her show up more on the TV screen. it would really change the entertainment industry
I blame Henry. Dude I get that you’re the king of England but your pregnant wife walks in on you kissing another woman who you had sitting in your lap.
Nah, Henry himself likely had those charges against Anne made up so he could get rid of her for not having a son and because he was bored of her and wanted a new piece of ass.
Miscarriages were incredibly common at the time due to the lack of healthcare/ other factors. The pressure to produce a healthy heir likely caused a strain on Anne and felt blessed when she had a daughter.
Everyone bitching about Anne when she was forced to marry henry cause he ruined her reputation by SA ing her. Some historians believed Anne seeked CoA's help to protect her against Henry's advances. CoA managed to help her for sometime but she also lost power. Anne offered Mary 1 a prestigious place at court many times. A letter was discovered when Mary 1 own governess told Anne to stop trying to help Mary saying it was impossible.
Nah lol Henry never assaulted Anne, he was obsessed with her, but he didn't rape her. Don't know where u got ur sources but stop spreading false information
@@themindgayer5367 SA definition at that time most likely meant ruining a woman's reputation or her so yes it was SA . I also really doubt henry was the kind of a person who respected others wishes.
@@anayadegani626 no, he definitely wasn't, but he didn't really ruin Anne's reputation with the affair. The two married after his marriage to Katherine of Aragon was already declared null and void. Plus Anne refused to sleep with Henry until he had already divorced his wife, so technically she wasn't even his mistress at all. The people who hated her were catholics since Anne was protestant and was responsible for the destruction and pillaging of the English monasteries.
@@themindgayer5367 he was trying to divorce CoA and most people blamed Anne for seducing him that made people doubt her morals which really impacted her reputation Also he had to wait seven years to annul his marriage to CoA so the popular belief was Anne had slept with him cause they believed why else would he wait so long At that time they also knew that Henry didn't really love anyone.
@@anayadegani626 Henry did love Anne, in fact he loved her so much that he respected her wishes to remain a virgin until marriage. He was in love with Katherine of Aragon too, but he was desperate for a son and Katherine had five pregnancies but only one living child who was a girl, so his love abandoned her. The same thing happened to Anne, and he fell in love with Jane Seymour. Although it may have also been that what he found attractive in her as a mistress, he didn't find attractive In her as a wife as she was way too independent and opinionated for the medieval century. That's also why he fell in love with Jane, she was quite, obedient, and uneducated, the opposite of Anne
Fun fact Henry actually might’ve loved Anne more than Jane because after Anne died he destroyed all paintings of her because he might’ve felt guilty what he did to the woman he loved her so long He only love Jane for only like two years
Jane was closes women to his mother who he could find. Anee and Carhrine both were ,,to much" for him. Jane on the other hand known how to influenc him with out him feeling like it's her idea. But I think he migth loved them both more then Jane as well
It’s actually not easy to conceive a child. Many people struggle to have children. It was very unfortunate in the past how people deal with grief. It’s always easier to blame someone and that’s usually the woman.
True but the past few generations mostly had girls I believe his issues were probably a mixture of look for a relationship like his parents, his actual belief that he married his brothers wife and cursed himself and his jousting accidents that did alter his behavior
Don't men know that there are the ones who considers what Sex the child would be. We're only the of Oven He blamed all the women that he was with when he was the problem
The thing is that this is still being perpetuated in low education region. Hell some 'intelligent' people who have careers also are not aware of basic biology.
Karma. She broke Katherine’s heart and marriage. She was also just a „wench“ and a spousebreaker. Yeah, Henry’s treatment was heartless and cruel. But Anne was not innocent at all
She was manipulated by her father. While seducing henry she was no more than a puppet having her strings pulled by thomas boleyn. And even if she did it of her own accord, that doesnt make losing a child karma, and you are are horrible person if you actually think so
I loved this series they both played their characters so well. I felt his own sin is what dealt him his just dessert, he was to blame and caused the miscarriage because he could not be faithful and put so much stress onto his pregnant wife.
She lost the baby boy because of his stupidity he cheated on her, and that led to her having the miscarriage. So there was really no reason for him to be mad at her.
I find it ironic that people treat Anne Boleyn like she was the ultimate victim. She seduced a married man ( who was a pig yes) into divorcing and eventually hiding away his first wife and her own sister BTW , and child with the heady promise of healthy male heirs. Reaping what you sow sucks. A cheater is always a cheater. Not talking about the miscarriage BTW. Simply the situation she claims led to the miscarriage.
Can you guys see her eyes are blood shot red? It's because she struggled while speaking when She was trying to talk while crying. it is actually pretty hard to also get sniffs That's how hard it is to be a actress Or else they just put something minty in Her eye
Brab!!! He is horrible when I woman loses her child and he is blaming her, she will already blame herself and it’s most of the time not their fault, also he was stressing her the freak out! I mean I know he had daddy issues but he didn’t learn
The reason women of that time ESPECIALLY queens constantly either lost their babies or died from child birth is because back then when women had a baby that wasn’t a male they were expected to immediately try again having to be constantly pregnant and trying to push out a human also there was no pain medicine or way to tell if the baby was healthy or not back then. So it was a lot more fatal
He very much blamed her, but Henry never broke his leg at the tournament, but rather suffered both a severe leg wound that became infected and a concussion that was never properly treated which is believed to have resulted in Henry's decent into tyranny
Well she made henry change the rules just to get rid of his first wife. That's her karma. U cant expect a cheater to be loyal. N surely henry got his own karma. Losing jane n his only son die young. He shape his two daughters into hard diamond accidentally.
Both Henry & Anne Boleyn had it coming, I don't feel sorry for either one of them. Oh, her miscarriage was devastating? Imagine how his first wife felt when she was constantly cheated on, replaced by the vile woman her husband installed as one of her ladies-in-waiting, having to endure a trial & being slandered in open court as only excuse to remove her as well as being separated from her daughter. Dont get me started on henry 8th. That walking list of stds blamed his wives for not bearing him a male heir who survived beyond childhood. A baby's gender is based on the sperm, not the egg. Also, with his weak dna & him being a selfish, brazen, callous man-whore, how did he expect to have a viable male heir?!!!
@@rowenaramsaran4256 Catherine actually helped Anne hiding from Henry. This show was very historically innacurate and Anne was a victim that never wanted to be in a relationship with the king. Her family and Henry were her undoing.
Not really. Anne was a young courtier who had the misfortune to catch the eye of the king, who was already growing unhappy in his marriage. Catherine was going to go, no matter what, and her and Henry stayed friends after the divorce. Anne did not make them split, Henry was already looking for a new wife.
Catherine was initially married to henrys older brother she said they didnt consummate but she was significantly older ylthen henry and he thought the reason he did not have a boy with her was because she consummated the marrige with his older bother. Mind ypu hery had atvleast one bastard son at this point. So it seemed he was lookin for a way out Anne did what she did at the presure from her own family. She als cared for the poor and was very smart Jayne seymore died after child birth but was said to be favorite wife My point is it wasnt karma it was just the times
What Karma? In real life Anne had no interest in the king and left the court for a whole year bc of Henry harassing her. She was in love with another but Henry wouldn't have it and married her anyway only to wrongfully execute her 3 years later just to get rid of her. In which damn universe is this Karma? Please educate yourself and not just watch one show and claim to be knowledgeable about the truth.
As someone how has experienced pregnancy loss this would be heartbreaking if my husband said this to me I all ready have to deal with everything the guilt and sadness hating my body blaming myself for it I still haven't gotten over it and I don't think I will ever but I know it wasn't my fault
Fun fact : ( not very if you ask me! )Anne Boleyn was 29 when she got killed if you ask me no one deserves to die at that age she hasn’t went through the things that PEPOLE should Henry wanted a son and she wanted his love but I guess it wasn’t enough for him
Tuvo un aborto, después a la reina Elizabeth y por último,se quedó otra vez de un varón qué nació bien, pero a las pocas horas de nacido murió 😡, él rey Enrique octavo la culpaba cómo si fuese culpable de esas cosas por Dios santo,le hacía a cada una de ellas lo que hizo con su primera esposa Catalina de Aragón, Ana bolena creo que sufrió de muchísimo estrés, especulaciones en la corte sobre ella y su comportamiento en la corte y con los nobles de ella,eso sumado a que perdió dos varones tuvo una hembra Elizabeth y sobrevivió, Enrique octavo ya estaba con otra mujer Jane Seymur 😡😡😡😡.
Just random thinking; I wonder how things would have been different if Anne hadn’t spontaneously miscarried but instead had been attacked and miscarried? With his God complex I wonder if Henry would have still walked away from Anne or if he would have shifted back as her husband for a time in a shared grief? The outcome would likely be the same for her though even if he did walk away from Jane for a time. I wonder though if Anne could have been spared death and sent to a Nunnery or live her life in the tower instead; Henry could have had footing to have her declared unfit/traumatized or even physically unable to bare future children (be it a lie or not).
I don’t think he would have been any better than he was because of the accident he had jousting it affected the behavior process of his brain. That is why you see people who knew him before that say he was like a friend more than a king.
The marriage between Henry and Catherine was doomed from the start. He married his late brother's widow. She being quite older than both brothers, some historians speculate the Spanish crown setting Author's rein to fail and it did when he died. Henry was much younger than Katherine who was old for that time period and barren. Henry really had no choice but to remarry to keep his country as there were no fertility clinics at the time. He was a womanizer but he loved Katherine and Ann Boleyn wasn't to blame for playing the hand that she was delt.
Karma? Once Henry laid eyes on Anne, what was she gonna do? Either way Henry was going to have her. It was either be used by him and be put aside unable to marry anyone else or play the hand she was dealt and try to gain power. The women had no power.
Yeah that was not how things worked then. Women couldn’t just say no and they especially couldn’t say no to a king. Henry was going to have Anne either way and the two choices were- become a mistress and be unable to marry or move on as she’d lost her virtue, or hold out on sex until he agreed to marry her and she had the promise of stability and place at court. She had to have known he had others though. Kings had many mistresses and concubines, queens weren’t allowed affairs as if a pregnancy occurred it would put doubt into the legitimacy of the heir. She would have known this all along so I doubt she was in anyway surprised or hurt that he slept with other women, more so she feared rightfully so, for what it meant for her place at court.
@@misspriss2482 Um, you realize that Anne's sister, Mary, was able to get married, and to a man of her choosing, after she was no longer Henry's mistress, right? Unlike Anne, Mary knew Henry as well as her own family was trouble so she didn't complain when she was banished from court and lived out her life peacefully with her head still attached to her shoulders.
@@katielynch9740 Anne's sister, Mary, was able to move on and get married to a man of her choice after she wasn't Henry's mistress anymore. Anne just wanted to be queen in Catherine of Aragon's place so she promised King Henry a son to divorce his wife and marry her. Mary might have been the lesser known of the Boleyn sisters but she came out as the real winner, living out her life peacefully with a good husband and with her head still attached to her shoulders.
You love a woman who intentionally broke up another woman’s marriage and abused her daughter while taking joy in the other woman’s painful slow death in poverty? Anne may not have deserved to die, but she put herself in that situation
Imagine the worst most intense cramps of your life starting up, not unlike the feeling of being stabbed. For who knows how long, hours? All day? Losing a child you carried for days inside your body, only for your loved one to yell at you in anger and disgust for losing the baby. Your pain, and your hard work, and your suffering, the grief; plus the betrayal of someone who is supposed to be there for you and love you. Hes a monster, and all whi are like him.
Henry should have realized on that day that Anne like Catherine was not to blame for the miscarriages and that Anne was right when she said he was at fault. I mean after several miscarriages with two different women should have been a wake up call that it was he who was the problem not them. Unfortunately Henry the 8th wasn’t smart enough to figure that one out.
@@jackieb.2642 nope. And screwing around probably made Henry contract STDs that rendered him unable to produce healthy children. Only Elizabeth lived to old age. If Henry had been a faithful husband like his own father, he might have been blessed with a son.
Even though Anne had anger issues she was still a wonderful and kind woman!! She deserved the world but instead she had it taken away from her. (Researched about the part that she had anger issues)
Henry can only blame himself. The womb will reject a fetus that it knows is dead or will not be able to survive long. The poor wives were blamed for Henry's shortcomings. Rest in peace my queens, you deserved better than this spoiled child for a husband
Anne and Henry 1522\1523-1532 : Henry loved her Anne and Henry aNd Elizabeth: 1533-1536 : Henry going hard and fighting because he is the one who caused it.
Bear in mind that even the royals didn’t have more than an 8th grade education by today’s standards and were also fanatically dogmatic by today’s standards. Also bear in mind just how desperately important male heirs were to succession and it’s not an unreasonable jump to condemn the Queen for failing to produce a viable heir (regardless of what we know).
Poor Anne I feel bad for her and it wasn't her fault he cheated with jane Seymour, Anne was so in love with Henry . the love she had for him blinded her and caused her death but her greatest revenge was Elizabeth 1st
i felt so horrible for her in this scene, just like many. she deserved better, along with the other wives and pretty much every woman in this time period. but anne had revenge from beyond the grave, her DAUGHTER grew to be one of the greatest monarchs in history.
Yep. A complete hypocrite. Side pieces tend to think they have magic hoohaas that can change the POS men they choose to have affairs with but are shocked when thats not the case
honestly, al the miscarriages his wives had are his fault because of the stress he put them under. Stress and anxiety can just like alcohol have negative results in pregnancy and if the body is too stressed out it will release the fetus, resulting in a miscarriage.
It’s a man’s fault if he can’t have sons. Imagine Henry finding out that it was literally all his fault and he murdered six young girls young mothers for NOTHING but his own incompetence
He was so obsessed with being historically famous, yet what he was remembered for was being a horrible human being who had many wives in his pursuit for a male heir, executing two of his wives. One of them no older than a child. If he only knew that his DAUGHTER from this woman(Anne Boelyn) he executed would far surpass him in everything and be known as one of the best monarchs in history lol
She dragged us into an unwinnable war for 16 years. And Henry is far more famous than almost any other monarch. His ruthless pursuit of power forever changed the country and it was his will that allowed Elizabeth to take the throne.
@@caratacus6204yet he was rapist.
@@caratacus6204 comparing Elizabeth to Henry, Elizabeth was the best thing that happenned to England
@@nielubieincelipress x to doubt
He got what he wated to be. He became historically famous, just not in good way.
Historians agree that it was Henry’s fault he could never have any healthy heirs. He had syphilis. 2 out of the 3 legitimate children he had lived into adulthood and only 1 lived until she was into her senior years. His long awaited son died young after only a few years on the throne, his first child was chronically ill and had an array of mental issues thanks to the “treatments” she had to be subjected to. His second child lived into old age but was also unable to have a child. His last wife was able to have healthy children with her next husband so we know she wasn’t the problem, but of course this was the era where people always blamed the woman 🤷♀️
That's kind of oversimplified. Henry was more than capable of having children, Catherine of Aragon had as many as 7 stillbirths/miscarriages, and did bear a living son but he died after just a few months; they were just chronically unlucky, their child mortality rate was unusually high for the time.
Henry and Anne were only married for 3 years and she had 4 pregnancies in that time, Elizabeth, then 2 miscarriages and a stillbirth. Its speculated that she had Kells syndrome, the first child is healthy but she wouldn't ever be able to bear another to term successfully.
Jane died tragically, and he never actually consummated his marriage with Anne of Cleves. He was married to Catherine Howard for just a year and he was very overweight and unhealthy then so conceiving at that point was probably pretty unlikely anyways. And when it comes to Catherine Parr, she had been married twice before and hadn't had children, she thought herself barren, neither of them really expected to have a child anyways at that point.
I think you're confusing Mary with Juana of Castille, Catherine of Aragon's older sister. She was tortured by her mother Isabella for her apparent lack of faith and was widely believed to be mad, Mary never appeared to have had any health problems until her 40s. And Elizabeth wasn't infertile, she just never married, she was probably entirely capable of having children.
I was told when I contracted chlamydia there is a chance I won’t be able to have kids when you contract an std it sometimes leaves you unable to have children and if you do your child might be very sick I felt like my life was over because of one mistake if you do have children they might be sickly there is a chance of it
@@matthewhart9610 No one said he couldn't bare children. Just not healthy ones. Catherine had those miscarriages with him, it could have perfectly been his fault the baby was not healthy and resulted in miscarriage.
Elisabeth didn't have children because she never married. We don't know if she could have them or not
@@matthewhart9610 Mary did suffer several false pregnancies, however, and never had a baby. We now suspect she had something of the likes of PCOS or cancer.
Anne didn’t deserve what happened to her, Elizabeth was her greatest revenge
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As much as I agree she didn’t deserve what happened to her … Cathrine didn’t deserve what Anne helped do to her either .. no one seems to remember she was the true queen of England forgotten, betrayed and killed with a broken heart …
@@rosalinda9236yeah😢
Anne didn’t deserve to die, but she did deserve a painful and embarrassing fall
To me, it’s seems she helped make it happen. She assisted/pushed his break with the Catholic Church to replace Catherine. So really, she got what she gave. She was happy to push aside his true wife and helped make it law so he could set her aside as well.
Finding out some his other wives had children before him and after him ( if they survived) just goes to show how it was him who couldn’t bare the heir not the women he tormented
You mean one of them did, Catherine Parr, none of the rest had any other children.
No, they didn't!
None of his wives had children before marrying him. Only one wife had a child after him and that’s his final wife who bore a child after he died, with Jane Seymour’s brother. Only two of his wives outlived him, Anne of Cleves and Catherine Parr. Anne never remarried, she had no children. Catherine Parr thought herself barren after producing no children with her first two husbands. She died after giving birth to a daughter who likely died around the age of 2.
@@matthewhart9610exactly. And many historians think Catherine Parr was more of a nurse maid than a sexual partner at that stage in his life given he was overweight, bed bound a lot of time and had chronic pustules all over his legs that apparently smelled so they bad they stunk up the room and made it hard for him to be very active. He put a lot of trust in Catherine Parr to make decisions in his absence but it’s unlikely according to historians that they were very sexually active to conceive a child.
Yeah he tormented Anne to be terrible to Catherine and plot her death and her daughter’s. Not all of these women were victims like y’all want to claim. Catherine was absolutely. She earned her place as queen helped the country in war and other things. Anne up jumped her way into his bed and got what she deserved. Y’all love to play the victim card
So she’s played the queen twice then and both times her husband was rather unbearable 😂
BRUH! 😂
Ironically her other character was half the way there to matching Henry's number of spouses
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
you mean Joffrey right?
The fact that this actually happened
I know I literally have tears in my eyes just thinking about her
It’s a true story?
@@YoutubinWithBea yeah that's Anne Boleyn and King Henry
@@victoriamar7476 Oh okay. Thank you.
That’s sad, tho.
@@YoutubinWithBeaow did you not know about King Henry the 8th and Anne Boleyn and all his six wives? It’s probably the most famous story in all European monarchy history. It’s the event that’s start a religious revolution!
Yeah it was definitely his fault how is she gonna carry ur baby to term when ur constantly yelling at her and stressing her out
The always yelling and stressing one was Anne in this marriage.Henry has never started the yelling fights.
@@el8568 No he would yell at her if she simply was just being herself like if she stated her opinion and he didn’t like it she would get yelled at and she was extremely stressed out especially right before she lost this baby in the clip she literally went to his chambers happy and wanted to just go talk to him and she opened the door and he was cheating on her while pregnant hormonal he was making out with Jane Seymour she was on his lap of course she gonna pop off in that situation
@@el8568Henry was a monster
It's the ultimate irony just how right she was. He wanted to blame the women he married for his lack of sons, when in reality, it was all on him.
And his seed was rancid. His heart was blackened. His spirit was foul 💔
I had a past life as queen Jane Seymour Henry wasn't rancid he did have his moments where he was a dick head but he could be a decent man at times
@@And_i_said_to_the_peasantrybffr 💀💀💀💀
@@And_i_said_to_the_peasantrygirl
@crystalkitten3000 sure you did kitten. Did you talk to the doctor about getting back on your meds?
@@And_i_said_to_the_peasantryjust wondering
Omg I love Natalie Dormer. She stole 2 seasons of this show and carried it.
What is the name the show
@@ananyasinha6909the tudors
The same way Anne felt seeing him with Jane was how Catherine felt seeing him with Anne
Al six women were his victims always always the woman is to blame isnt it
The women ARE partly to blame. He didn’t force himself on her. So really, she reaped what she sowed. She helped push Catherine out so it’s kinda poetic that came back on her
The full pain and suffering in Anne’s eyes and there he stands not caring proves alot about Henry
I read somewhere that Henry had a serious jousting accident where his horse landed on him and he was unconscious for 2 hours. It was shortly after this that Anne lost her baby. Henry also had marked personality changes which is now ascribed to brain damage from the accident as well has the ulcer on his leg which left him debilitated for the rest of his life.
His alleged brain damage severely altered his personality & led to his historical monstrosities. Medically, they simply were unaware of the brain damage & personality changes that head concussions can cause. If true, he bears little blame for the horrors that unfolded. It could have been a medical condition that he simply couldn't help. Tragic.
That is one in range of theories. We don't know for sure.
Ik Anne wasnt a nice person either but this miscarriage definitely wasn't her fault. Henry didn't care for his wives, he only cared for his name to continue on through history
Edit: Omg over 500 likes, Tysm everyone😮
That’s very true.! But do we really know Anne was that bad or any other women he had.
History is writing by men like Henry. 😅
Still in the end anne had the biggest laugh. Her hair was indeed the greatest name of the last Tudors 😌
@@queenofkillss717 and it was also written by people that hated the royals and wanted to always see them fall. History is always written to change the views of the future. That's why we never change
@@queenofkillss717 Right? I'm sure if I read the history of my relationship from the viewpoint of my ex, I wouldn't be painted as a saint. Most men like to use the line, "All my exes were crazy."
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@@queenofkillss717 we don't for sure but Anne and Henry were both celebrating Catherine Aragon's death and Anne was wearing yellow which is known to be a happy colour so she clearly didn't care for Catherine and her feelings at all...
@@Quinn856 that’s true. ( sorry my main language isn’t English so I try to put my words on it ). Tho I believe women back then were very much paws in politic. Offcours Anne push the buttons in her time with getting Henry. Every story have 2 sides.
You can actually see at the end where he realizes that she is right. That he can't solely blame her for the loss, he shouldn't have been messing around in the first place. And yes I know that it was his right but he could've not risked it
Henry was a filthy womaniser & thats that!
Henry was a monster.
That's right, he was a monster and a narcissistic psychopath.
@@leylasanchezgarcia No.He was just a king,who has been above everyone in the country,and lived long time ago,when they thought it is all the women's fault.
But you people are really very silly who judge him with eyes of 21th century.
And do not defend the indefensible again because you give a lot of laughter and sadness, trying to change history .
@@el8568 he literally murdered his wives how is that not evil
@@pancon9947 He literally killed(sent to execution) so many people,just as many kings and queens(by the way,the so much beloved Elizabeth did the very same thing) by that time.Anne was said to be betraying the king,against Katherine Howard they found proof as well.
Again,you guys don't understand that these things were considered completely accepted and normal.The King himself was a king by God's will,he could do anything he liked.He did nothing extreme by executing the cheater and betrayer wives,by the way not the only one in history.
the way Natalie Dormer portrayed her role in this scene was awe-inspiring I hope actors like her show up more on the TV screen. it would really change the entertainment industry
Natalie Dormer is amazing. They both stole my heart in this!!!! I loved this series xxx
She deserved better. I love her so much ❤
I see you love her😮... just love can make you think she deserved better!
@@fanuelagomesca3845 screw you! She DID
Lol stfu
She s no saint
Supporting fr a certified B shows ur blind feminism
The way he trembled added so much to the intensity of this scene.
I blame Henry. Dude I get that you’re the king of England but your pregnant wife walks in on you kissing another woman who you had sitting in your lap.
Which is messed up. She catches him but he murders her Over rumors
Nah, Henry himself likely had those charges against Anne made up so he could get rid of her for not having a son and because he was bored of her and wanted a new piece of ass.
Natalie Dormer was amazing as Anne Boleyn
Miscarriages were higher than now because of many things in that era many people blame it on the women not the men that is cruel
I’m sure at this point in Anne’s life she must have remembered the Ill treatment of Queen Catherine and Princess Mary!
Just plain karma kicking in
SHE IS AN UNEQUIVOCAL TALENT
Miscarriages were incredibly common at the time due to the lack of healthcare/ other factors.
The pressure to produce a healthy heir likely caused a strain on Anne and felt blessed when she had a daughter.
Adding that she discovered he was with another woman!
Also women were enslaved beaten and treated like a Afgan womsn . They reduced death by allowing mid wives in later much later
Yeah, like it's always the woman's fault. The poor medical care is to blame. Stress of her cheating husband.
@Dreamfyre My point exactly
No one would let their kids be in this toxic family…
Everyone bitching about Anne when she was forced to marry henry cause he ruined her reputation by SA ing her. Some historians believed Anne seeked CoA's help to protect her against Henry's advances. CoA managed to help her for sometime but she also lost power. Anne offered Mary 1 a prestigious place at court many times. A letter was discovered when Mary 1 own governess told Anne to stop trying to help Mary saying it was impossible.
Nah lol Henry never assaulted Anne, he was obsessed with her, but he didn't rape her. Don't know where u got ur sources but stop spreading false information
@@themindgayer5367 SA definition at that time most likely meant ruining a woman's reputation or her so yes it was SA . I also really doubt henry was the kind of a person who respected others wishes.
@@anayadegani626 no, he definitely wasn't, but he didn't really ruin Anne's reputation with the affair. The two married after his marriage to Katherine of Aragon was already declared null and void. Plus Anne refused to sleep with Henry until he had already divorced his wife, so technically she wasn't even his mistress at all. The people who hated her were catholics since Anne was protestant and was responsible for the destruction and pillaging of the English monasteries.
@@themindgayer5367 he was trying to divorce CoA and most people blamed Anne for seducing him that made people doubt her morals which really impacted her reputation Also he had to wait seven years to annul his marriage to CoA so the popular belief was Anne had slept with him cause they believed why else would he wait so long At that time they also knew that Henry didn't really love anyone.
@@anayadegani626 Henry did love Anne, in fact he loved her so much that he respected her wishes to remain a virgin until marriage. He was in love with Katherine of Aragon too, but he was desperate for a son and Katherine had five pregnancies but only one living child who was a girl, so his love abandoned her. The same thing happened to Anne, and he fell in love with Jane Seymour. Although it may have also been that what he found attractive in her as a mistress, he didn't find attractive In her as a wife as she was way too independent and opinionated for the medieval century. That's also why he fell in love with Jane, she was quite, obedient, and uneducated, the opposite of Anne
He used her for his pleasures and for children when she actually loved him and then he killed her.
Narcissist
Thats crazy how Aragon had to deal with Boleyn and Boleyn had to deal with Seymour.
Fun fact Henry actually might’ve loved Anne more than Jane because after Anne died he destroyed all paintings of her because he might’ve felt guilty what he did to the woman he loved her so long He only love Jane for only like two years
Jane was closes women to his mother who he could find. Anee and Carhrine both were ,,to much" for him. Jane on the other hand known how to influenc him with out him feeling like it's her idea. But I think he migth loved them both more then Jane as well
The fact that Henry blamed Anne for the miscarriage when he squeezed her belly and thats how she had a miscarriage
exactly its not anne's fault she was hurting because henry was cheating on her
That's some FREAKY GOOD acting.
This doesn't even deserve the Oscars, give them the Noble y'all.
I haven’t watched this show entirely but I think Henry knew deep down it was his own fault. But like many men, he was too prideful to acknowledge it.
She was the most beautiful on this scene💕
This makes me wanna cry. Anne never deserved any of this.
It’s actually not easy to conceive a child. Many people struggle to have children. It was very unfortunate in the past how people deal with grief. It’s always easier to blame someone and that’s usually the woman.
True but the past few generations mostly had girls I believe his issues were probably a mixture of look for a relationship like his parents, his actual belief that he married his brothers wife and cursed himself and his jousting accidents that did alter his behavior
Don't men know that there are the ones who considers what Sex the child would be. We're only the of Oven He blamed all the women that he was with when he was the problem
Well, they didn't knew that in those ages
That’s a common misconception but still, in this case it’s his fault
if I'm not mistaken the only living boy child born to him was weak and sickly
The thing is that this is still being perpetuated in low education region. Hell some 'intelligent' people who have careers also are not aware of basic biology.
They didn’t know that back then yet
As a history major I do not care one bit how historically inaccurate this show is, Natalie Dormer’s acting makes up for it! 💕 She is Anne.
Karma. She broke Katherine’s heart and marriage. She was also just a „wench“ and a spousebreaker. Yeah, Henry’s treatment was heartless and cruel. But Anne was not innocent at all
She was manipulated by her father. While seducing henry she was no more than a puppet having her strings pulled by thomas boleyn. And even if she did it of her own accord, that doesnt make losing a child karma, and you are are horrible person if you actually think so
“It broke my heart to see you loved others” that made me sad😢
God the woman playing Anne has such power.
how could he have a male heir when he always stresses and squeezes Anne's tummy
We love you Anne Boylen you didn’t deserve this.dance in heaven forever sweet queen!
Anne deserved better. He was so obsessed with power he never even got to know his daughter.
Henry : I ended your mother
Elizabeth : I ended your bloodline
Henry blamed everyone else but himself.
Typical Narcissist!
"that wench Jane Seymour" oh dear Anne you were a "wench" too in Catherine's and Mary's eye.
Omg... my all time fav series!!!❤
I loved this series they both played their characters so well. I felt his own sin is what dealt him his just dessert, he was to blame and caused the miscarriage because he could not be faithful and put so much stress onto his pregnant wife.
She lost the baby boy because of his stupidity he cheated on her, and that led to her having the miscarriage. So there was really no reason for him to be mad at her.
I find it ironic that people treat Anne Boleyn like she was the ultimate victim. She seduced a married man ( who was a pig yes) into divorcing and eventually hiding away his first wife and her own sister BTW , and child with the heady promise of healthy male heirs. Reaping what you sow sucks. A cheater is always a cheater. Not talking about the miscarriage BTW. Simply the situation she claims led to the miscarriage.
They did Henry vlll a favor by selecting this actor as him😂😂
Of the 2 known sons he had, both died young. His daughters lived into adulthood.
Bruh, you grabbed her stumic so hard it killed the boy IT IS YO FAULT
Can you guys see her eyes are blood shot red?
It's because she struggled while speaking when
She was trying to talk while crying.
it is actually pretty hard to also get sniffs
That's how hard it is to be a actress
Or else they just put something minty in
Her eye
Brab!!! He is horrible when I woman loses her child and he is blaming her, she will already blame herself and it’s most of the time not their fault, also he was stressing her the freak out! I mean I know he had daddy issues but he didn’t learn
Funny how even she was a MISTRESS at first. She too broke a family
Finally anne feel what catherine of aragon feel
He squeezed Anne's stomach when anne seen him cheating on her then henry squeezed her, it's all Henry's fault and he had syphilys
The reason women of that time ESPECIALLY queens constantly either lost their babies or died from child birth is because back then when women had a baby that wasn’t a male they were expected to immediately try again having to be constantly pregnant and trying to push out a human also there was no pain medicine or way to tell if the baby was healthy or not back then. So it was a lot more fatal
Elizabeth was the greatest revenge ✨💖
Henry blamed her? I hope not in real life. She miscarried from sheer shock after he broke his leg at a tournament.
He very much blamed her, but Henry never broke his leg at the tournament, but rather suffered both a severe leg wound that became infected and a concussion that was never properly treated which is believed to have resulted in Henry's decent into tyranny
RIP Queen Anne and Elizabeth!🕊️🪦🙏🏿
The pain in her voice breaks me.
To this day when I think of Henry VIII I picture Jonathan Rhys Meyers.
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢poor Queen Anne Boleyn 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Didnt all his wives haunt him in the end?
Just the ones he had children with
i wonder if they really haunted him or if that was a symptom of his late stage syphilis and a guilty conscience-either way he deserved it
Well she made henry change the rules just to get rid of his first wife. That's her karma. U cant expect a cheater to be loyal. N surely henry got his own karma. Losing jane n his only son die young. He shape his two daughters into hard diamond accidentally.
Both Henry & Anne Boleyn had it coming, I don't feel sorry for either one of them.
Oh, her miscarriage was devastating? Imagine how his first wife felt when she was constantly cheated on, replaced by the vile woman her husband installed as one of her ladies-in-waiting, having to endure a trial & being slandered in open court as only excuse to remove her as well as being separated from her daughter.
Dont get me started on henry 8th. That walking list of stds blamed his wives for not bearing him a male heir who survived beyond childhood. A baby's gender is based on the sperm, not the egg. Also, with his weak dna & him being a selfish, brazen, callous man-whore, how did he expect to have a viable male heir?!!!
@@rowenaramsaran4256 Catherine actually helped Anne hiding from Henry. This show was very historically innacurate and Anne was a victim that never wanted to be in a relationship with the king. Her family and Henry were her undoing.
Not really. Anne was a young courtier who had the misfortune to catch the eye of the king, who was already growing unhappy in his marriage. Catherine was going to go, no matter what, and her and Henry stayed friends after the divorce. Anne did not make them split, Henry was already looking for a new wife.
Catherine was initially married to henrys older brother she said they didnt consummate but she was significantly older ylthen henry and he thought the reason he did not have a boy with her was because she consummated the marrige with his older bother. Mind ypu hery had atvleast one bastard son at this point. So it seemed he was lookin for a way out
Anne did what she did at the presure from her own family. She als cared for the poor and was very smart
Jayne seymore died after child birth but was said to be favorite wife
My point is it wasnt karma it was just the times
What Karma? In real life Anne had no interest in the king and left the court for a whole year bc of Henry harassing her. She was in love with another but Henry wouldn't have it and married her anyway only to wrongfully execute her 3 years later just to get rid of her. In which damn universe is this Karma? Please educate yourself and not just watch one show and claim to be knowledgeable about the truth.
Henry really does have no one to blame but himself, if he hadn’t cheated on Anne that baby could’ve survived and saved Anne’s life
When anne boleyn speaked and cried it broke my heart😢
As someone how has experienced pregnancy loss this would be heartbreaking if my husband said this to me I all ready have to deal with everything the guilt and sadness hating my body blaming myself for it I still haven't gotten over it and I don't think I will ever but I know it wasn't my fault
Fun fact : ( not very if you ask me! )Anne Boleyn was 29 when she got killed if you ask me no one deserves to die at that age she hasn’t went through the things that PEPOLE should Henry wanted a son and she wanted his love but I guess it wasn’t enough for him
Tuvo un aborto, después a la reina Elizabeth y por último,se quedó otra vez de un varón qué nació bien, pero a las pocas horas de nacido murió 😡, él rey Enrique octavo la culpaba cómo si fuese culpable de esas cosas por Dios santo,le hacía a cada una de ellas lo que hizo con su primera esposa Catalina de Aragón, Ana bolena creo que sufrió de muchísimo estrés, especulaciones en la corte sobre ella y su comportamiento en la corte y con los nobles de ella,eso sumado a que perdió dos varones tuvo una hembra Elizabeth y sobrevivió, Enrique octavo ya estaba con otra mujer Jane Seymur 😡😡😡😡.
Just random thinking; I wonder how things would have been different if Anne hadn’t spontaneously miscarried but instead had been attacked and miscarried? With his God complex I wonder if Henry would have still walked away from Anne or if he would have shifted back as her husband for a time in a shared grief? The outcome would likely be the same for her though even if he did walk away from Jane for a time. I wonder though if Anne could have been spared death and sent to a Nunnery or live her life in the tower instead; Henry could have had footing to have her declared unfit/traumatized or even physically unable to bare future children (be it a lie or not).
I don’t think he would have been any better than he was because of the accident he had jousting it affected the behavior process of his brain. That is why you see people who knew him before that say he was like a friend more than a king.
Damn good acting
Well Anne that's called karma imagine how Catherine felt
The marriage between Henry and Catherine was doomed from the start. He married his late brother's widow. She being quite older than both brothers, some historians speculate the Spanish crown setting Author's rein to fail and it did when he died. Henry was much younger than Katherine who was old for that time period and barren. Henry really had no choice but to remarry to keep his country as there were no fertility clinics at the time. He was a womanizer but he loved Katherine and Ann Boleyn wasn't to blame for playing the hand that she was delt.
Karma? Once Henry laid eyes on Anne, what was she gonna do? Either way Henry was going to have her. It was either be used by him and be put aside unable to marry anyone else or play the hand she was dealt and try to gain power. The women had no power.
Yeah that was not how things worked then. Women couldn’t just say no and they especially couldn’t say no to a king.
Henry was going to have Anne either way and the two choices were- become a mistress and be unable to marry or move on as she’d lost her virtue, or hold out on sex until he agreed to marry her and she had the promise of stability and place at court.
She had to have known he had others though. Kings had many mistresses and concubines, queens weren’t allowed affairs as if a pregnancy occurred it would put doubt into the legitimacy of the heir. She would have known this all along so I doubt she was in anyway surprised or hurt that he slept with other women, more so she feared rightfully so, for what it meant for her place at court.
@@misspriss2482 Um, you realize that Anne's sister, Mary, was able to get married, and to a man of her choosing, after she was no longer Henry's mistress, right? Unlike Anne, Mary knew Henry as well as her own family was trouble so she didn't complain when she was banished from court and lived out her life peacefully with her head still attached to her shoulders.
@@katielynch9740 Anne's sister, Mary, was able to move on and get married to a man of her choice after she wasn't Henry's mistress anymore. Anne just wanted to be queen in Catherine of Aragon's place so she promised King Henry a son to divorce his wife and marry her. Mary might have been the lesser known of the Boleyn sisters but she came out as the real winner, living out her life peacefully with a good husband and with her head still attached to her shoulders.
Henry with Jane:😍
Henry finding out how much anne actually loved him:😢
That’s why I love Anne Boleyn so much
You love a woman who intentionally broke up another woman’s marriage and abused her daughter while taking joy in the other woman’s painful slow death in poverty? Anne may not have deserved to die, but she put herself in that situation
I just realized that when this happens just few moments ago Anne saw Henry with Mistress Seymour, Henry squeeze Anne’s stomach
Watch the clip 3 or more times.. watch Jonathan's face under his eye to his nose.. youll see the makeup and prosthetics coming loose and cracking
And then he killed her
Jane Seymour, “the only one he truly loved”
Imagine the worst most intense cramps of your life starting up, not unlike the feeling of being stabbed. For who knows how long, hours? All day?
Losing a child you carried for days inside your body, only for your loved one to yell at you in anger and disgust for losing the baby. Your pain, and your hard work, and your suffering, the grief; plus the betrayal of someone who is supposed to be there for you and love you.
Hes a monster, and all whi are like him.
Henry should have realized on that day that Anne like Catherine was not to blame for the miscarriages and that Anne was right when she said he was at fault. I mean after several miscarriages with two different women should have been a wake up call that it was he who was the problem not them. Unfortunately Henry the 8th wasn’t smart enough to figure that one out.
I think deep down, Henry knew but didn't want to admit it. Nothing is ever his fault in his sick mind.
@@Elly3981 Honestly I don’t think the thought ever crossed his mind due to his ego.
@@jackieb.2642 nope. And screwing around probably made Henry contract STDs that rendered him unable to produce healthy children. Only Elizabeth lived to old age. If Henry had been a faithful husband like his own father, he might have been blessed with a son.
Even though Anne had anger issues she was still a wonderful and kind woman!! She deserved the world but instead she had it taken away from her. (Researched about the part that she had anger issues)
‘Wonderful and kind woman’ who intentionally destroyed another woman’s life, abused her daughter and celebrated her rival’s painful death?
@@emilybarclay8831 exactly! she called jane a wench she herself is a wench but still no one deserves such horrible treatment
Henry can only blame himself. The womb will reject a fetus that it knows is dead or will not be able to survive long. The poor wives were blamed for Henry's shortcomings.
Rest in peace my queens, you deserved better than this spoiled child for a husband
He was always a man that had zero self accountability
Anne and Henry 1522\1523-1532 : Henry loved her
Anne and Henry aNd Elizabeth: 1533-1536 : Henry going hard and fighting because he is the one who caused it.
Bear in mind that even the royals didn’t have more than an 8th grade education by today’s standards and were also fanatically dogmatic by today’s standards. Also bear in mind just how desperately important male heirs were to succession and it’s not an unreasonable jump to condemn the Queen for failing to produce a viable heir (regardless of what we know).
I love how it’s always the woman’s fault🤣🤣🦋
Poor Anne I feel bad for her and it wasn't her fault he cheated with jane Seymour, Anne was so in love with Henry . the love she had for him blinded her and caused her death but her greatest revenge was Elizabeth 1st
The pain she felt when she saw Henry with Jane is the same pain she caused Catherine. She 100% earned ir
i felt so horrible for her in this scene, just like many. she deserved better, along with the other wives and pretty much every woman in this time period.
but anne had revenge from beyond the grave, her DAUGHTER grew to be one of the greatest monarchs in history.
Wasn't she the same one that convinced henry to divorce his previous wife.
Yep. A complete hypocrite. Side pieces tend to think they have magic hoohaas that can change the POS men they choose to have affairs with but are shocked when thats not the case
honestly, al the miscarriages his wives had are his fault because of the stress he put them under. Stress and anxiety can just like alcohol have negative results in pregnancy and if the body is too stressed out it will release the fetus, resulting in a miscarriage.
Exactly
He was such a monster 👹
He fact that he was crying Ehm like -
It’s a man’s fault if he can’t have sons. Imagine Henry finding out that it was literally all his fault and he murdered six young girls young mothers for NOTHING but his own incompetence