Not to be prideful, because I’m not, but I have traditional Catholic male friends who have thanked me for dressing modestly. They said they look at me (meaning my face) and aren’t tempted to look at my body (which is properly covered). This is such a nice compliment.
Through the many years and especially as I get older that happens many times and with a smile! It's nice to be respected and to meet men/boys that are respectful.
Thank you for speaking out about this, Father. I wish more priests would talk about these sensitive topics without being afraid of the laity’s reproach. For me personally, I’ve been feeling a call to be more modest lately. I’ve never been one to show off a ton of skin, but like most Americans it never occurred to me that leggings, or shorts or pants would be immodest or inappropriate. I’m really rethinking my whole wardrobe in the past couple months and I’ve been slowly moving towards a better way to dress modestly for the glory of God and my own dignity. Please keep up the good work and never be afraid to speak the truth! ❤
Amen 🙏❤️ I'm inspired to be modest. God bless this priest ❤ I need to seriously work on Modesty ❤ I wore shorts yesterday because I'm vitamin d deficient and I walked in the sun ☀️ to fix my health problems because it's hard to get a Dr appointment at the moment. But I shouldn't make excuses. I should probably take a supplement instead. I don't want to offend God anymore like I did when I was younger 😢 I'm 32 now and I really am ready to take Jesus and my Catholic faith seriously ❤
I encourage other women to pursue beauty through craft! I make cowls, vests, wraps and shawls through crochet to help cover my chest and it's honestly something im very happy i can do for myself and friends. A lace or mesh poncho in the summer can be very classy! My job requires close fitting clothes to avoid injury, but in my free time i enjoy skirts. In the near future i will be learning how to sew my own modesty panels so i dont have to avoid buying vnecks, and skirts. Unfortunately a lot of women's clothing is thin, tight, or missing coverage.
Thank you so much, dearest Father. The rose/petal example was perfect to emphasize your point, and definitely one I won't ever forget. May God continue to bless and keep you always 💕
I didn’t think the rose was a great analogy. The rose was ugly when its petals were removed. Our bodies are not ugly! They are beautiful! But, because of sin people objectify other’s bodies for their own pleasure so we must protect and cover what is precious and beautiful and only reveal it at the proper time. A better analogy is fruit. It has a skin or peel that protects the delicious fruit on the inside. If the peel or skin is removed before the right time it will spoil and rot! So too with our bodies, when we reveal intimate parts when it’s not the right time our souls can spoil and rot!
Don’t feel refreshed because he’s wrong. For example for most of Christendom high society men wore skirts. Women in the past emphatics the line of their Christ and bust and not the legs, because they were more overweight so that looked better. The Church never complained unless they were religious. The Church has always taught that clothing should be modest but go with the clothing of the times. This is true Catholicism
Thank you Father! Finally an excellent video to share about modesty and also to defend my modesty which I have been practicing for years now and have been ridiculed on account of it! I didn't even realize all the reasons why! I've just been obeying my Pastor since I know he has my best interest at heart!
It has been my conviction to dress modestly for several years now. I wear dresses most of the time and always to mass. It is a challenge to be modest living in a place where it is 100 + degrees for at least 4 months of the year. wearing pants is sometimes necessary for me. I'm widowed and live alone on my small farm. I have to do the work that is traditionally male. It is unsafe for me to climb a ladder, run a chain saw or work with large power equipment in a dress. Mostly I am alone and no one sees me when I dress like this, and I believe God understands.
I would think if you were doing outdoor work that involves getting dirty, wearing overalls or jeans would be OK in that situation. I own a pair of jeans, but I try to save it for running out to the grocery store in the winter when it is cold otherwise I try to wear a skirt with leggings underneath.
Father, thank you so much for posting this sermon. These are the best analogies I have ever heard in explaining why we should dress modestly. I've been going to the TLM for 15 years and have been noticing a trend where the girls and even the moms are dressing less modestly than in previous years. The pull is so great to cave into the worldly way of dressing. God bless you!
Father your words are BEAUTIFUL. Thank you very much. With all my heart I thank you. Oh that we could hear sermons like this more often. You are brave and you are inspired by our Lord to speak these words. Freeing us from the tyranny of the world! This will stay with me. I am old now and have made many bad mistakes and just recently I have started attending the most reverent Latin Mass of my youth. I wear a head covering and always a skirt or a dress now to attend Mass but since hearing you I am now inclined to stop wearing trousers at all. We usually call them trousers in England. Maybe the young ones call them pants. They have adopted many American terms. I remember years ago when my mother saw me in trousers for the first time. She was saddened, but I chose not to heed her sadness. When we are young we can be like that. When we are old we can be like that. Unheeding! But oh Father you have inspired me this day and God is telling me that it is no coincidence that I have found your sermon today. Thank you and may God reward you for your words.
😂Father, thank you for your clear teaching. Your words are needed by the young women who are products of the culture. Perhaps, no one has ever taught them in such a direct manner. Blessings, H
Excellent sermon Fr. Zepeda. Immodesty in women causes me affliction because it elicits a reaction, which I don't desire, and it's beyond my control. In Florida its terrible, especially around college, near my work. I feel disrespected by others immodesty, I report people at work who do not dress decently to their superior.
The church still has no comment on specifics of dressing.Commonsense rules .There is nothing wrong with pants. That doesn't mean all the ideas that culture pushes are right. You need a balance. I am a retired nurse and my uniform was and included pants.
There is everything wrong with women wearing pants because the whole point of pants on women was to based around inverting the patriarchy. Which is inherently anti God due to the principle of antipatriarchy since the patriarchy is instituted by God in the natural order of creation.
Bravo Fr.someone needs to preach this.I love since I got older to wear Jean's.I make sure my bottom is well covered either by a long blouse long top.I like long sleeves I think they are very elegant and cover unsightly arms.I have read about a woman wearing a skirt over slacks and Fr Pio told her he would not wear hear her confession .I thought it was a bit exaggerated .Listening to you makes impossible to ignore.
Same! I only really heard "You wear skirts/dresses because you're a girl." Which was not much motivation and, honestly, it sounded like a punishment. It was never explained like this, focusing on a positive sense of modesty.
I agree that women should dress modestly. I also believe that men should dress modestly/respectfully. More men were wearing short shorts than women at my church. They all had long hairy legs showing during the church serve. I thought it was inappropriate. My husband dresses respectfully for church.
Father, we ladies are constantly reminded of the need for modesty, but proper attire for men is never addressed. I’m speaking specifically about proper attire for Holy Mass. Dressing well for Mass is one of the ways we show respect for Our Lord - polo shirts, short sleeve, open neck, no ties (and forget suit jackets!) and even turtleneck shirts are not acceptable for Mass. Thankfully, I’ve seen no out-and-out t-shirts of late…at my church the ladies come dressed to the nines, but a lot of the men come dressed casually. Can we take a look at that, please? Thanks for listening.
Amen! I'm so tired of seeing men come to Mass like they've just left mowing the lawn or working out. No shorts, flip flops, tee shirts, sweatshirts, etc. Men get with the program already!
As a Catholic man I couldn’t agree more. I dress well at Mass. And it isn’t because of vanity but rather out of respect for our Lord. I would really like to see more of my brother’s dress well. Please father. A segment on appropriate attire for my fellow men.
This is exactly why the topic of modesty is not taken well. 1) it is always addressed towards women as if men don’t need to correct their ways. 2) I agree with everything the priest has said, but WHY has this not been addressed by priests in all parishes throughout all these decades upon decades??? Are they responsible in part for the manner in which immodesty has gotten out of hand? I was fortunate/unfortunate to have a Dad who did NOT allow us to wear makeup, OR wear pants…but I was the only, and I mean the ONLY CATHOLIC, not wearing pants at the school I attended…because priests NEVER EVER spoke of this at church. Growing up people thought I was a Jehovah’s Witness!…that is how awkward it was, … …I personally thought that it was my Dad’s own beef that he had and was only using the Bible to keep us dressing how he wanted us to, again because priests were failing to lead in the modesty department and have allowed it to get to this point…the Muslim women certainly didn’t have this problem. 3) hurray that you’re talking about it, shame on you all for NOT keeping order in the house on BOTH men and women…parishioner count & $$$$ were more important. 4)Ladies, don’t dress modest out of vanity, because it shows and it looks all kinds of wrong…do the interior work and let your exterior reflect it…. 5) fact, men like curves, ladies can be wearing a dress and men will “own her body in their mind” and not let go of that image. Fix that…stop focusing the blame on women.
collared shirts (polo, short sleeve button down w/ or w/o tie) with short sleeves are acceptable for Mass. if that is your standard for men then like wise women must not wear any short sleeve dresses. They must wear dresses that go from 2" below neck, down to wrist and down to ankles. Jeans and shorts of any kind are never to be worn. Where do you derive this definition from??
Thank you Father. The parish church we attend occasionally because the priest says the tlm there and it's closer than our Fssp parish, could definitely benefit from a parish mission on this topic. The level of immodesty is nothing less than absurd. I feel sorry for these women. Their parents have failed them.
Be careful in blaming parents for the choices adult children are making. I raised my girls with the example and teaching of modesty. When they left home they had their own free will to make their own choices. It certainly doesn’t mean that I approve, or would make the choices they may be making.
Thank you!!! I unfortunately wear scrubs to work in laundry and do a lot of bending at the hips. I need to find scrubs that have skirts that are lionge enough for coverage and safe enough around machinery.
Beautifully said. I'm a grandmother and guilty as charged. I wish I was more educated in the past. But now I can face and change for the love of my grandchildren and God.
I live somewhere really hot and humid, somewhere that reaches 40 degrees C in the summer and feels like 45 degrees because there's basically no wind due to the landscape. People really do die or at least require emergency medical care due to overheating. The fashion style is more casual here than other places because of the climate and lifestyle. It's difficult to wear a bra in this weather, but I still can't not wear a bra to avoid attracting attention. Also, I bike to church, even in the rain. It's impractical (and a little dangerous) to wear skirts while biking. I'd rather be safe than sorry. Sometimes I wonder how Mary would dress in this climate and lifestyle. Regardless, I think I've tried my best so my conscience is clear.
If you look back to Jesus’ time, men wore clothes that looked like dresses, too. The shape of a man’s body can be just as tempting, as well. A man swimming in a swimsuit and showing his chest is just as tempting. Tight jeans on men, too. Maybe we should both be wearing loose fitting clothes that cover our bodies?
@@mollyeckert8658 Years ago, I don't recall the Pope, wrote on about modesty and in regards to swimming. Family bathing he said and NOT mixed bathing at all. Even one should be modest amongst family members. TEMPTATIONS of the flesh don't change with the times nor with whom. We are temples of the Holy Ghost and should act and dress accordingly. Remember the words of Jacinta Marto who saw our Lady at Fatima in 1917. Our Lady told her that fashions will be introduced that will gravely offend my Son. Religious should not follow the fashions......
pointer- layer like the rose! layer the shirts, cover ups, leggings under the dresses, skirts over short dresses- so many combinations! even where your jeans under the skirts to help feel more at home for awhile. button up cardigans over shirts with a skirt. buy all the staples: black and white everything from slips, tights, skirts, shirts and then add in pieces for color! it was so hard to come up with things when there are so few examples - so I hope those help!
For women concerned about playing sports, working outside, being active and doing so modestly, Amazon (and other places, I'm sure) have these lovely skirts with built-in leggings or shorts. You can get them below the knee (just pay attention to length while shopping). They are light-weight and flexible, but not form-fitting (don't be afraid to go a size up if needed). Wearing skirts for playing sports is a switch I've made over the past year or two. And believe you me, as a hard-core tomboy for most of my life, it has not been an easy thing, so I truly understand those who are hesitant. But it is very doable. I knew I COULD do it, because I grew up wearing heavy jean skirts for everything from baling hay to playing baseball - I just didn't really WANT to....😏 For swimming, there are actually many options as well. There are (really cute!) long tops with sleeves (long, short, or elbow length) that you can pair with swim capris. And bonus: if you're swimming in the ocean and run into a jellyfish, less skin to be stung. (Hey, it's a legit concern sometimes!! 😂😂)
@@sherrymacaroni5916 if you put "modest athletic skirt" into the search bar they should come up. Some won't be modest, because Amazon doesn't really go by Catholic standards 😏 but they're in there.
@@sam12587 I think UA-cam deletes links as spam comments. Narrow your search for skirts with words like "modest" and "athletic," and plenty of options will pop up. There are dozens of sellers within Amazon that sell them.
@@frangeckle9016 are you talking about orthodox Jewish or Muslim attire ? They do have some activewear . A Catholic company must have some items as well?
PLEASE Father first of all this podcast has many admirers that listen and watch! This subject is most needed especially for all traditional Catholics. A good idea is that we should look into a mirror and check out what one looks like in the back also especially when walking etc. Father I am not too knowledgeable and not sure how to do this but if there is a way we can get this talk in writing? Oh this talk is the best of best talks on modesty! You are in all my prayers. From MSM
I dont wear pants to church, as too butt conscious and feel its inappropriate. I wear long skirts and usually long sleeve blouses if high mass especially
It’s refreshing to hear another adult say this. I frequently wear baggy clothes to hide my figure & ive received derogatory remarks about how I should show off my figure. Such makes me feel like a cow for auction.
There are good modest pants which wear all the time. They help to keep us warm and hide our silhouette. And with a long trench coat we are even warmer in the cold July weather. There are pants made for women that compliment our bodies and it's clear as day that this is a woman and not a man.
blue jeans craze began from commies wanted us out of-suits n dresses so Marlon Brando in tight jeans/tshirt/leather jacket n marilyn Monroe wore tight jeans in 1950's too. now denim is cultural norm
@@user-dj9uc2yc8d yes . Imagine a town where people dressed nicer. No yoga pants - ! I think it would be an awesome way to improve culture . Styles right now aren’t very appealing.
One of the worst things about wearing a skirt is the ability for somebody else to just come and pull your dress up in the air And it has happened believe me. It’s easier for men to pull your dress up and pull your underwear off. At least if you wear pants you’re more protected. I’m not saying to wear skin tight pants, I mean a decent pair of pants, those are good for women. Men used to wear dresses long time ago. Who has made the decision that dresses are for women? Decent pants are not a sin, but are protective.
I was thinking of my toddler who likes to tug on and play with my skirt. It's not just the worst possible cases, it's everyday life as a mom. A pair of jeans is just way more practical than juggling small kids and housework in a skirt.
@@zsrz4877 A time and place for everything. In the Bible it mentions women not dressing like men and men not dressing like women. Jeans to me are manly and most are always tight. Read "Dressing with Dignity " written by a former model with the psychology of it all.
I wear ankle straps; I can't walk withot them. Straps, braces or whatever are distracting to others & causes people to ask questions about them instead of paying attention to the subject or Mass at hand.@@sumsumcorda8
If women and men are supposed to dress in a markedly different way, then how do you explain the common dress of people in the time of the Apostles? While having different names for their garments, men and women were both wearing long robes, shawls/veils, sandals, etc. I'd imagine that from a distance, it was hard to tell the difference.
Hello father and thank you, but are there any standards for men? Or are we not able to wear shorts or tee shirt? Im not trying to make an argument but the thought has come to mind since watching the video
A man when coming to Mass should dress as dignified as possible. Of course! No shorts or tshirts, in general one should go as one would dress for something one considers important and of honor
I think men should be covering their body as much as possible too. Women can be very attracted to a man’s legs, chest, arms. It’s just as dangerous. Seeing a man in tight pants is not right, either.
The Other day a lady came in to church wearing leatards as pants and nothing covering her in other words her shirt was short so her crotch and her rear end were extremely exaggerated and obvious and may as well of not been wearing anything at all !! I said something to her. The Priest there at the time told me I was wrong to speak up. I could not believe that was his attitude. He said to me "how would you feel if someone tells you your outfit is immodest" I said I would be ashamed and change but they wouldn't I have on a long skirt and well covering top no one would say this is immodest. ..... The woman could not believe I spoke up and was outraged. Well I don't ever hurt anyones feelings on purpose but you should not wear underwear as pants to church!! I was scandalized and disgusted and would not want a woman parading around like that before my husband - certainly not parading around the Mass before all the men and the Priest.
You don't know her background. Better to pray for her rather than pass judgment. You are not her mother or friend, you are being what the Bible calls a busybody. Father described your behavior in his message here and it wasn't complimentary. (I think dressing modestly is very important. But I will not assume other people's backgrounds or motives. It is not my job. As Father says here, some women do not know their worth, and it could be due to being mistreated.)
@@KristynLorraine You JUST Judged Me! You don't know all the facts and even tho I wrote some of it not to bore you with a long story you have decided it is all the facst you need to call me a busy body which is judging my motive for having spoken up. Then you tell me it is not up to me to speak up but your speaking up. Can you not see the hipocrisy in your statement. Jesus said that if your brother is sinning inform them (paraphrased) and that was a grotescque display of her body in the church. You also assume I do not pray for her. You also assume I did not apologize for hurting her feelings. I did both and I pray for her daily. Perhaps you should take your own advice. And NOT speaking up to others is one of the major ways the church has gotten into so much trouble in so many various ways. Also I merely assessed what I saw as evidence in plain sight - I did not determine why she was so immodest. The Lord approves of us assessing one anothers behaviors and display of who we are and tells us to make determinations by the fruits we bare.
Let’s all be nice to each other here. I think that when a woman is wearing clothing so bad that it could make other people sin, specially in church one HAS to say something. Specially if no one else will. There is a difference: We don’t judge private sins. That would be being a busy body. We do try to stop (even without judging) PUBLIC sins. Because those we are certain of, and they harm other people. That being said, it’s always important how we come across and we should try to do it in such a way that we make it easy for the other person to accept what we tell them, and discreetly to correct the situation.👍
@@thecatholicwire I agree. And that is why I apologized to her because I was not as kind as I could have been. I don't think I have been unkind here though - I am defending my own honor in that I am not a busy body not seeking to control others or hurt them in any way. I appreciate your feedback and certainly do take it to heart.
Ladies must be more strict in their dressing as women are endowed with breasts and butts sometimes too shapely. Its better to cover them up. I love to see female dressing in the 50s and some 60s movies. They were ladylike
It’s important to be modest without appearing too different from the rest of society. It’s ok to have dresses half the way of the leg, and it’s ok to have pants. In the past men wore skirts, including in Christendom. Throughout Catholic history women did not show their legs but emphasized their chest, and that was deemed ok unless they were religious.
I’m sorry but what the world does is not what the church teaches. It’s true that not ALL that I say here is required. (Something’s are of more perfection but not of obligation) yet we must base ourselves not on your or mine opinion but by what the church taught in the past. Certainly not by what the world does.
Father,I honestly believe that modesty in men and women is to be encouraged if not expected. This includes unnecessary exposure of the body however, you lost me on telling us to cover up to the ankles and wear a skirt. I am 87 years old and haven’t worn a skirt in years. Self-respect and common sense should dictate how women dress.
When we consider these matters, we are also reminded of some of the warnings of the Blessed Virgin at Fatima, Portugal, in 1917. “Certain fashions will be introduced that will offend Our Lord very much… More souls go to helll because of sins of the flesh than for any other reason.”
I think you’re talking about when people wear leggings as pants instead of only under a skirt or dress ? I wear my leggings for warmth under my skirts in the winter when I go to my TLM.
The church says pants are fine for women. This video is unrealistic and over the top. Women naturally must dress modestly, but culture must be reasonably respected.
My dear, the church never said that before Vatican II. And pants were well on their way. Much to the contrary, the ways of the world are opposed to the ways of God. Or, now that the culture is pushing girls to chop off their breasts and boys to do drag… should we also respect that? I don’t think you would say so. Thank you very much for your comment and for your interest!
@dianneraimondi8382 Doing research and searching for truth is stronger than opinions. The Blessed Virgin Mary would never wear pants. She is our role model for the Trinity.
He acknowledged loose fitting pants were something better than the tight painted on pants that most women wear today - I am paraphrasing his words but its the same meaning. HE is giving good advice not saying you have to follow it or that you cant be a good catholic if you wear pants. But wouldn't you be an even better person a better catholic if you were concerned about your neighbors and how they look at your form and wouldn't it be great if you were concernded to not be a temptation for them?
Every Sunday I see so many men and women in shorts and flip flops, this has to stop! As for pants for women, I agree that these should not be tight fitting but I wear long pants because I have a condition of my legs that make wearing a dress without embarrassment to me very difficult, so I wear modest slacks. As for distinguishing between sexes pants or skirt is not how you can tell. Try telling a Scotsman not to wear his kilt because they may think he is a woman!
The standards of Christian modesty state that skirts must cover the knees when sitting or standing. How then would it be immodest for us to walk around in a skirt that is two to three inches below the knee rather than ankle length? Why should women go back to Victorian standards of dress in order to be modest? I always thought myself modestly dressed because my dresses and skirts all meet the standards of Christian modesty set by Pope Pius XI. So you are telling me that I have to wear long sleeves in summer and skirts down to my ankles or feet in order to be modest? What about little girls who like to play on the playground? Surely they can't manage climbing structures in a skirt down to the ankles. They can in a tea length skirt. (Mid calf length). I am raising five daughters and three sons. My youngest is six years old. My oldest is 18. Having the girls never wear trousers or shorts would mean that they couldn't bike ride, go to ballet classes, or play on the girls' sports teams at their Novus Ordo parochial school. I would argue that bike riding is unsafe in an ankle length skirt. The skirt could get caught up in the chain. Even Victorian ladies wore the Victorian version of skorts when they rode bikes. Surely their split skirts were not immodest. My youngest daughter is in ballet. She was in the Nutcracker ballet last year as a mouse. So by this standard she would have to hang up her ballet shoes and never dance again. It doesn't seem fair. Ballet is an art that has been around for centuries. So by this standard since she is required to wear a leotard, tights and a short ballet skirt, she should never dance. The costume for being a mouse is a one piece body suit with a hood. It is the same for both boys and girls. You can't even see their faces when they are in full costume because they are covered with a mask. She has only one or two little boys in her class. Surely it is not immodest when the kids are only between four and seven years old? As long as she puts on a dress over her leotard after class, wouldn't she still be modest? They dance to classical ballet music. My middle school aged daughter wanted to play soccer for her parochial school last year. The uniform is a short sleeve shirt and a pair of shorts and knee socks and cleats. It is a single sex sports team. Should she not be allowed to go out for any of the sports teams because she can't wear a dress while playing?
@@sherril.562 yes, I have seen girls from my church wearing short shorts outside of Mass and the ladies in trousers. It is a common sight outside of church. One year, we were given presents from someone from church who was helping us out with Christmas presents. I asked for things that met the minimum standards of Christian modesty. They gave me mostly leggings.
@@sherril.562 I make my girls wear skirts with them. Their schoolmates wear leggings as trousers on non uniform days. Funny how their uniform is much more modest than their non uniform clothes. They are required to wear a uniform skirt or jumper with the leggings on uniform days and a polo shirt with a sweatshirt on cold days. My girls wear skirts and dresses over their leggings usually when they are in public. At home, they are allowed to stay in their pyjamas. I suppose I should put my foot down on that, but it's hard to do because they've been lounging around in pyjama bottoms for years now. I myself have been guilty of doing that, but I am trying to get away from that these days and set a better example.
I gave up dance when I realized how immodest it was even in the seventeenth century. And how prostitution has always and still is connected with the business.
@@user-hd4kv7vc6i ballet originated in the French royal court. It was developed from there into an art that it is today. I don't know anything about prostitution connected with ballet. Nor do I see evidence of it in the Nutcracker or the other classical ballets. Catholic schools, prior to Vatican II, used to teach ballet classes to their girls in all girls preparatory schools. It develops grace, poise, and balance. Duschesne Academy in Omaha Nebraska, which used to be owned by the Sisters of the Sacred Heart, has a ballet studio in the oldest part of the building because the Sisters used to teach the girls ballet in order to develop their sense of grace and balance. These girls often went on to marry well. The Catholic faith was very much a part of their education too before Vatican II. The school has lost a lot since Vatican II, but it is still an all girls' academy with high academic standards. The Sisters are all gone now, but their spirit permeates the building anyway. I know because I visited once. I have my youngest daughter in an academy that only teaches ballet and contemporary. It does not teach any other forms of dance. They dance to classical music. In the upper levels of ballet, classes are segregated according to sex. None of the movements in ballet, and I have seen a lot of ballet over the years because my youngest is not my only daughter who has been in ballet, are suggestive. So, I respectfully do not agree with your assessment that all forms of dance are immodest and rooted in prostitution.
@@megangreene3955 okay, well, professional ballerinas are encouraged to prostitute themselves, and this hasn't been anything new to the business of ballet. And those who funded the dancers expected to be payed in return for their investment. The ballet theatres used to have floors for the purpose of doing unmentionables.
Y'all dress how you want. Please don't shame (or comment on, at least initially) those newcomers who come into your churches not dressed to your standards. They're probably very self conscious as it is.
I never understand why women dress so shamelessly. They say it’s because of the summer heat, but you don’t see guys wearing these shorts that are so short one can’t even tell whether they are panties. Or shirts that are so shot one can’t tell whether it’s a shirt. Do guys not also feel the same heat? Why don’t guys dress with same short clothes?
It’s not an insult to Muslim people but to the errors of their false beliefs. The idea that “all religions are the same” it’s an error originating in Vatican II and a little before. Condemned by the Church
I understand. Technically, yes, one could make a distinction for the sake of clarity. We usually refer to pagans as those who worship multiple deities, or simply smaller false religions; while Islam is referred to by name on account of its size and importance. I believe we cannot say (as Vatican II says) that “they worship the true God” since they Do not believe in the most Holy Trinity, nor in Jesus Christ as God. They worship “Alah”.
@@thecatholicwire I see what you mean, but our orthodox family also call God 'Allah'. I guess I find the word 'pagan' when applied to other abrahamic religious a bit hostile maybe, but I understand that's not what you meant by it. Thanks for your kind reply 🙏
Not to be prideful, because I’m not, but I have traditional Catholic male friends who have thanked me for dressing modestly. They said they look at me (meaning my face) and aren’t tempted to look at my body (which is properly covered). This is such a nice compliment.
I'd be creeped out if I got that compliment.
@@JP2GiannaTI just thought the exact same thing! 🤣
Interesting fact, women who dress Marylike have more doors opened for them by men out in public.
This is so true.
Through the many years and especially as I get older that happens many times and with a smile! It's nice to be respected and to meet men/boys that are respectful.
People don't open doors for me and I dress modestly when I am in public.
@@megangreene3955 Keep being a good example and smile. You're still setting a higher standard!
@@annparent1039 men that are gentlemen open doors for women. No matter how they look.
The most beautiful talk I’ve ever heard on modesty.
Thank you for speaking out about this, Father. I wish more priests would talk about these sensitive topics without being afraid of the laity’s reproach.
For me personally, I’ve been feeling a call to be more modest lately. I’ve never been one to show off a ton of skin, but like most Americans it never occurred to me that leggings, or shorts or pants would be immodest or inappropriate. I’m really rethinking my whole wardrobe in the past couple months and I’ve been slowly moving towards a better way to dress modestly for the glory of God and my own dignity. Please keep up the good work and never be afraid to speak the truth! ❤
same! We are all craving modesty. the Holy Spirit is calling many of us
Dear Father, I agree with you. A modest woman is more lady like, who keeps secret her body just as a precious pearl in the shell. God bless you.
Modesty is a beautiful thing! ❤
Amen 🙏❤️ I'm inspired to be modest. God bless this priest ❤
I need to seriously work on Modesty ❤
I wore shorts yesterday because I'm vitamin d deficient and I walked in the sun ☀️ to fix my health problems because it's hard to get a Dr appointment at the moment. But I shouldn't make excuses. I should probably take a supplement instead.
I don't want to offend God anymore like I did when I was younger 😢
I'm 32 now and I really am ready to take Jesus and my Catholic faith seriously ❤
Thank you very much! I appreciate these reminders, Father.
This was really good! Thank you, Fr Zepeda!! God bless you
I encourage other women to pursue beauty through craft! I make cowls, vests, wraps and shawls through crochet to help cover my chest and it's honestly something im very happy i can do for myself and friends. A lace or mesh poncho in the summer can be very classy!
My job requires close fitting clothes to avoid injury, but in my free time i enjoy skirts. In the near future i will be learning how to sew my own modesty panels so i dont have to avoid buying vnecks, and skirts. Unfortunately a lot of women's clothing is thin, tight, or missing coverage.
It's something you don't think much of until it's brought up to you and taught to you. Then you can't help but notice it.
Thank you so much, dearest Father. The rose/petal example was perfect to emphasize your point, and definitely one I won't ever forget. May God continue to bless and keep you always 💕
I didn’t think the rose was a great analogy. The rose was ugly when its petals were removed. Our bodies are not ugly! They are beautiful! But, because of sin people objectify other’s bodies for their own pleasure so we must protect and cover what is precious and beautiful and only reveal it at the proper time.
A better analogy is fruit. It has a skin or peel that protects the delicious fruit on the inside. If the peel or skin is removed before the right time it will spoil and rot! So too with our bodies, when we reveal intimate parts when it’s not the right time our souls can spoil and rot!
@@mikeandjoannacichy2475 Thank you for your input. I like your fruit analogy as well :) May God bless you and keep you always.
Excellent video! Thank you, Father.
Excellent, Father! Thank you!
Thank you very much Father !
Ohhh, at last somebody is talking about this. May God bless you father a thousand times. ✝️🙏❤️
Wow this is absolutely amazing!!! Thank you so much Father!!! God bless you!!
Thank you Father!!! I feel so refreshed with this video! I live In California and i never hear any priest talk like this.
I pray for priests to pick up the battle for modesty. God answers prayers!! He is good!!
Don’t feel refreshed because he’s wrong. For example for most of Christendom high society men wore skirts. Women in the past emphatics the line of their Christ and bust and not the legs, because they were more overweight so that looked better. The Church never complained unless they were religious.
The Church has always taught that clothing should be modest but go with the clothing of the times. This is true Catholicism
Thank you Father for preaching the TRUTH + May the Lord continue to help you and protect you from any harm .
Thank you, Father. God bless you!
Thank you Father! Finally an excellent video to share about modesty and also to defend my modesty which I have been practicing for years now and have been ridiculed on account of it! I didn't even realize all the reasons why! I've just been obeying my Pastor since I know he has my best interest at heart!
So sweet. Thank you, Father.
Thank you Father!! and I'm a fan of the show!!
It has been my conviction to dress modestly for several years now. I wear dresses most of the time and always to mass. It is a challenge to be modest living in a place where it is 100 + degrees for at least 4 months of the year. wearing pants is sometimes necessary for me. I'm widowed and live alone on my small farm. I have to do the work that is traditionally male. It is unsafe for me to climb a ladder, run a chain saw or work with large power equipment in a dress. Mostly I am alone and no one sees me when I dress like this, and I believe God understands.
I would think if you were doing outdoor work that involves getting dirty, wearing overalls or jeans would be OK in that situation. I own a pair of jeans, but I try to save it for running out to the grocery store in the winter when it is cold otherwise I try to wear a skirt with leggings underneath.
God bless you Father. Ave Maria ~
Thank you. We need this kind of preaching.
Father, thank you so much for posting this sermon. These are the best analogies I have ever heard in explaining why we should dress modestly. I've been going to the TLM for 15 years and have been noticing a trend where the girls and even the moms are dressing less modestly than in previous years. The pull is so great to cave into the worldly way of dressing.
God bless you!
Deo gratias and thank you Father!🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️
Father your words are BEAUTIFUL. Thank you very much. With all my heart I thank you. Oh that we could hear sermons like this more often.
You are brave and you are inspired by our Lord to speak these words. Freeing us from the tyranny of the world! This will stay with me. I am old now and have made many bad mistakes and just recently I have started attending the most reverent Latin Mass of my youth. I wear a head covering and always a skirt or a dress now to attend Mass but since hearing you I am now inclined to stop wearing trousers at all. We usually call them trousers in England. Maybe the young ones call them pants. They have adopted many American terms.
I remember years ago when my mother saw me in trousers for the first time. She was saddened, but I chose not to heed her sadness.
When we are young we can be like that.
When we are old we can be like that.
Unheeding!
But oh Father you have inspired me this day and God is telling me that it is no coincidence that I have found your sermon today. Thank you and may God reward you for your words.
God bless you and reward you, Father.
😂Father, thank you for your clear teaching. Your words are needed by the young women who are products of the culture. Perhaps, no one has ever taught them in such a direct manner. Blessings, H
Excellent sermon Fr. Zepeda. Immodesty in women causes me affliction because it elicits a reaction, which I don't desire, and it's beyond my control. In Florida its terrible, especially around college, near my work. I feel disrespected by others immodesty, I report people at work who do not dress decently to their superior.
The church still has no comment on specifics of dressing.Commonsense rules .There is nothing wrong with pants. That doesn't mean all the ideas that culture pushes are right. You need a balance. I am a retired nurse and my uniform was and included pants.
I agree that there will be exceptions.
I am nurse and am out on disability currently but I always wore a dress or skirt. I could never look modest in pants, lol.
@@teresaoftheandes6279 Im a retired nurse and never saw a nurse wear a dress or skirt.
I'm a CNA, I've always worn skirts, which encouraged others to get their skirts too.
There is everything wrong with women wearing pants because the whole point of pants on women was to based around inverting the patriarchy. Which is inherently anti God due to the principle of antipatriarchy since the patriarchy is instituted by God in the natural order of creation.
Bravo Fr.someone needs to preach this.I love since I got older to wear Jean's.I make sure my bottom is well covered either by a long blouse long top.I like long sleeves I think they are very elegant and cover unsightly arms.I have read about a woman wearing a skirt over slacks and Fr Pio told her he would not wear hear her confession .I thought it was a bit exaggerated .Listening to you makes impossible to ignore.
Thank you very much Father.
Thank you father for preaching the truth. I wish more priests had done this when I was a young person.
Same! I only really heard "You wear skirts/dresses because you're a girl." Which was not much motivation and, honestly, it sounded like a punishment. It was never explained like this, focusing on a positive sense of modesty.
Modestly in itself is beautiful . Being modest is self respect. Dressing properly is dignified. Too much make up Is denying your self
@@ninakosi7979 Excellent and I agree.
Great talk!
I agree that women should dress modestly. I also believe that men should dress modestly/respectfully. More men were wearing short shorts than women at my church. They all had long hairy legs showing during the church serve. I thought it was inappropriate. My husband dresses respectfully for church.
Excellent points and advise. I totally agree with you Fr. I am sure Our Lord is greatly offended by today's fashions.
Father, saints wore pants.
Father, we ladies are constantly reminded of the need for modesty, but proper attire for men is never addressed. I’m speaking specifically about proper attire for Holy Mass. Dressing well for Mass is one of the ways we show respect for Our Lord - polo shirts, short sleeve, open neck, no ties (and forget suit jackets!) and even turtleneck shirts are not acceptable for Mass. Thankfully, I’ve seen no out-and-out t-shirts of late…at my church the ladies come dressed to the nines, but a lot of the men come dressed casually. Can we take a look at that, please? Thanks for listening.
Good point. Men should dress appropriately although women dressing to the nines could be a lack of humility and a desire to be seen.
Amen! I'm so tired of seeing men come to Mass like they've just left mowing the lawn or working out. No shorts, flip flops, tee shirts, sweatshirts, etc. Men get with the program already!
As a Catholic man I couldn’t agree more. I dress well at Mass. And it isn’t because of vanity but rather out of respect for our Lord. I would really like to see more of my brother’s dress well. Please father. A segment on appropriate attire for my fellow men.
This is exactly why the topic of modesty is not taken well.
1) it is always addressed towards women as if men don’t need to correct their ways.
2) I agree with everything the priest has said, but WHY has this not been addressed by priests in all parishes throughout all these decades upon decades???
Are they responsible in part for the manner in which immodesty has gotten out of hand?
I was fortunate/unfortunate to have a Dad who did NOT allow us to wear makeup, OR wear pants…but I was the only, and I mean the ONLY CATHOLIC, not wearing pants at the school I attended…because priests NEVER EVER spoke of this at church.
Growing up people thought I was a Jehovah’s Witness!…that is how awkward it was, …
…I personally thought that it was my Dad’s own beef that he had and was only using the Bible to keep us dressing how he wanted us to, again because priests were failing to lead in the modesty department and have allowed it to get to this point…the Muslim women certainly didn’t have this problem.
3) hurray that you’re talking about it, shame on you all for NOT keeping order in the house on BOTH men and women…parishioner count & $$$$ were more important.
4)Ladies, don’t dress modest out of vanity, because it shows and it looks all kinds of wrong…do the interior work and let your exterior reflect it….
5) fact, men like curves, ladies can be wearing a dress and men will “own her body in their mind” and not let go of that image. Fix that…stop focusing the blame on women.
collared shirts (polo, short sleeve button down w/ or w/o tie) with short sleeves are acceptable for Mass. if that is your standard for men then like wise women must not wear any short sleeve dresses. They must wear dresses that go from 2" below neck, down to wrist and down to ankles.
Jeans and shorts of any kind are never to be worn.
Where do you derive this definition from??
Thank you Father. The parish church we attend occasionally because the priest says the tlm there and it's closer than our Fssp parish, could definitely benefit from a parish mission on this topic. The level of immodesty is nothing less than absurd. I feel sorry for these women. Their parents have failed them.
Be careful in blaming parents for the choices adult children are making. I raised my girls with the example and teaching of modesty. When they left home they had their own free will to make their own choices. It certainly doesn’t mean that I approve, or would make the choices they may be making.
Thank you!!! I unfortunately wear scrubs to work in laundry and do a lot of bending at the hips. I need to find scrubs that have skirts that are lionge enough for coverage and safe enough around machinery.
Father thank you. I haven't heard a perfectly said homily since I was a kid, and I'm 63.
Well spoken, Father.
Beautifully said.
I'm a grandmother and guilty as charged. I wish I was more educated in the past. But now I can face and change for the love of my grandchildren and God.
Peace and greetings from France, Father
I live somewhere really hot and humid, somewhere that reaches 40 degrees C in the summer and feels like 45 degrees because there's basically no wind due to the landscape. People really do die or at least require emergency medical care due to overheating. The fashion style is more casual here than other places because of the climate and lifestyle. It's difficult to wear a bra in this weather, but I still can't not wear a bra to avoid attracting attention.
Also, I bike to church, even in the rain. It's impractical (and a little dangerous) to wear skirts while biking. I'd rather be safe than sorry.
Sometimes I wonder how Mary would dress in this climate and lifestyle. Regardless, I think I've tried my best so my conscience is clear.
If you look back to Jesus’ time, men wore clothes that looked like dresses, too. The shape of a man’s body can be just as tempting, as well. A man swimming in a swimsuit and showing his chest is just as tempting. Tight jeans on men, too. Maybe we should both be wearing loose fitting clothes that cover our bodies?
Yes, men and women should be modest.
So, that's one vote for Mumu's, no votes for jeans. We'll all be dressed like Homer Simpson!
@@mollyeckert8658 Years ago, I don't recall the Pope, wrote on about modesty and in regards to swimming. Family bathing he said and NOT mixed bathing at all. Even one should be modest amongst family members. TEMPTATIONS of the flesh don't change with the times nor with whom. We are temples of the Holy Ghost and should act and dress accordingly. Remember the words of Jacinta Marto who saw our Lady at Fatima in 1917. Our Lady told her that fashions will be introduced that will gravely offend my Son. Religious should not follow the fashions......
@@marystanley7373 At least there will be less temptations.
I agree, but saying ‘Just as…’ belies your lack of understanding of a major difference in men’s vs women’s brains. You just be young or unmarried.
pointer- layer like the rose! layer the shirts, cover ups, leggings under the dresses, skirts over short dresses- so many combinations! even where your jeans under the skirts to help feel more at home for awhile. button up cardigans over shirts with a skirt. buy all the staples: black and white everything from slips, tights, skirts, shirts and then add in pieces for color! it was so hard to come up with things when there are so few examples - so I hope those help!
Thank you so much father for this video 🤍
For women concerned about playing sports, working outside, being active and doing so modestly, Amazon (and other places, I'm sure) have these lovely skirts with built-in leggings or shorts. You can get them below the knee (just pay attention to length while shopping). They are light-weight and flexible, but not form-fitting (don't be afraid to go a size up if needed).
Wearing skirts for playing sports is a switch I've made over the past year or two. And believe you me, as a hard-core tomboy for most of my life, it has not been an easy thing, so I truly understand those who are hesitant. But it is very doable. I knew I COULD do it, because I grew up wearing heavy jean skirts for everything from baling hay to playing baseball - I just didn't really WANT to....😏
For swimming, there are actually many options as well. There are (really cute!) long tops with sleeves (long, short, or elbow length) that you can pair with swim capris. And bonus: if you're swimming in the ocean and run into a jellyfish, less skin to be stung. (Hey, it's a legit concern sometimes!! 😂😂)
I've looked for over the knee skorts. You say they're on Amazon but I can't find them. Can you give more info?
@@sherrymacaroni5916 if you put "modest athletic skirt" into the search bar they should come up. Some won't be modest, because Amazon doesn't really go by Catholic standards 😏 but they're in there.
Do you happen to have a link?
Amz is a huge site
@@sam12587 I think UA-cam deletes links as spam comments. Narrow your search for skirts with words like "modest" and "athletic," and plenty of options will pop up. There are dozens of sellers within Amazon that sell them.
@@frangeckle9016 are you talking about orthodox Jewish or Muslim attire ? They do have some activewear . A Catholic company must have some items as well?
PLEASE Father first of all this podcast has many admirers that listen and watch! This subject is most needed especially for all traditional Catholics. A good idea is that we should look into a mirror and check out what one looks like in the back also especially when walking etc. Father I am not too knowledgeable and not sure how to do this but if there is a way we can get this talk in writing? Oh this talk is the best of best talks on modesty! You are in all my prayers. From MSM
There is an excellent book entitled dressing with dignity by colleeen Hammond
@@lindaleclair8938 yes I have it. Thank you
Thank you Father for your beautiful homily God bless you❤
I dont wear pants to church, as too butt conscious and feel its inappropriate. I wear long skirts and usually long sleeve blouses if high mass especially
It’s refreshing to hear another adult say this.
I frequently wear baggy clothes to hide my figure & ive received derogatory remarks about how I should show off my figure. Such makes me feel like a cow for auction.
Is there a way to read or listen to the texts and videos in German?
“Modest is the hottest” - a comment made here which I would think actually goes against modesty. Save comments like that for your wife, please.
He has no wife. He is a priest. Priests in the Roman rite don't get married.
There are good modest pants which wear all the time. They help to keep us warm and hide our silhouette. And with a long trench coat we are even warmer in the cold July weather. There are pants made for women that compliment our bodies and it's clear as day that this is a woman and not a man.
A most practical sermon. Thank you, Father. Where is your church?
Wheat Ridge CO (Our lady of the snows chapel)
@@thecatholicwire Thank you. I'm in TN or I'd be there next Sunday.
blue jeans craze began from commies wanted us out of-suits n dresses so Marlon Brando in tight jeans/tshirt/leather jacket n marilyn Monroe wore tight jeans in 1950's too. now denim is cultural norm
I sure hope yoga pants go out of style -
Yes very indecent and revealing.
@@user-dj9uc2yc8d yes . Imagine a town where people dressed nicer. No yoga pants - ! I think it would be an awesome way to improve culture . Styles right now aren’t very appealing.
"And today it has sound"
One of the worst things about wearing a skirt is the ability for somebody else to just come and pull your dress up in the air And it has happened believe me. It’s easier for men to pull your dress up and pull your underwear off. At least if you wear pants you’re more protected. I’m not saying to wear skin tight pants, I mean a decent pair of pants, those are good for women. Men used to wear dresses long time ago. Who has made the decision that dresses are for women? Decent pants are not a sin, but are protective.
I was thinking of my toddler who likes to tug on and play with my skirt. It's not just the worst possible cases, it's everyday life as a mom. A pair of jeans is just way more practical than juggling small kids and housework in a skirt.
@@zsrz4877 A time and place for everything. In the Bible it mentions women not dressing like men and men not dressing like women. Jeans to me are manly and most are always tight. Read "Dressing with Dignity " written by a former model with the psychology of it all.
"It is against the dignity of a woman to wear pants." Bishop McGuire.
No it's not.!!!!!
Its against the dignity of women to pressure them to belike stefford wives.
Utter nonsense, then my mother who prayed the Rosary 2x a day must have been an undignified homemaker
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What is the name of podcast?
The Catholic Wire
I wear women dress pants because I like to stay completely covered. Dresses are beautiful but you can still be modest wearing dress pants and a woman.
Same, this is common sense...
agree.
I wear dress slacks all the time or Maxi dresses, it's an act of charity to cover my ankle foot orthotics and orthopedic shoes😊
@@cherylweber8406 why is that an act of charity?
I wear ankle straps; I can't walk withot them. Straps, braces or whatever are distracting to others & causes people to ask questions about them instead of paying attention to the subject or Mass at hand.@@sumsumcorda8
If women and men are supposed to dress in a markedly different way, then how do you explain the common dress of people in the time of the Apostles? While having different names for their garments, men and women were both wearing long robes, shawls/veils, sandals, etc. I'd imagine that from a distance, it was hard to tell the difference.
Notice that I said according to the culture. There where for sure distinctions even back then.
I don’t think men were wearing veils like the women were.
@@femaleKCRoyalsFan I'm not a clothing historian, but I know in the movies they did, and they would when they prayed
@@femaleKCRoyalsFanI believe men did have some cover over their head at times.
Hello father and thank you, but are there any standards for men? Or are we not able to wear shorts or tee shirt? Im not trying to make an argument but the thought has come to mind since watching the video
A man when coming to Mass should dress as dignified as possible. Of course! No shorts or tshirts, in general one should go as one would dress for something one considers important and of honor
@@thecatholicwirethank you father but I meant shorts and tee shirt out in public or around the house or if that was attire for work
I think men should be covering their body as much as possible too. Women can be very attracted to a man’s legs, chest, arms. It’s just as dangerous. Seeing a man in tight pants is not right, either.
do you think they should bring back the veil?
In my church they all wear it.👍
The Other day a lady came in to church wearing leatards as pants and nothing covering her in other words her shirt was short so her crotch and her rear end were extremely exaggerated and obvious and may as well of not been wearing anything at all !! I said something to her. The Priest there at the time told me I was wrong to speak up. I could not believe that was his attitude. He said to me "how would you feel if someone tells you your outfit is immodest" I said I would be ashamed and change but they wouldn't I have on a long skirt and well covering top no one would say this is immodest. ..... The woman could not believe I spoke up and was outraged. Well I don't ever hurt anyones feelings on purpose but you should not wear underwear as pants to church!! I was scandalized and disgusted and would not want a woman parading around like that before my husband - certainly not parading around the Mass before all the men and the Priest.
You don't know her background. Better to pray for her rather than pass judgment. You are not her mother or friend, you are being what the Bible calls a busybody. Father described your behavior in his message here and it wasn't complimentary. (I think dressing modestly is very important. But I will not assume other people's backgrounds or motives. It is not my job. As Father says here, some women do not know their worth, and it could be due to being mistreated.)
@@KristynLorraine You JUST Judged Me! You don't know all the facts and even tho I wrote some of it not to bore you with a long story you have decided it is all the facst you need to call me a busy body which is judging my motive for having spoken up. Then you tell me it is not up to me to speak up but your speaking up. Can you not see the hipocrisy in your statement. Jesus said that if your brother is sinning inform them (paraphrased) and that was a grotescque display of her body in the church. You also assume I do not pray for her. You also assume I did not apologize for hurting her feelings. I did both and I pray for her daily. Perhaps you should take your own advice. And NOT speaking up to others is one of the major ways the church has gotten into so much trouble in so many various ways. Also I merely assessed what I saw as evidence in plain sight - I did not determine why she was so immodest. The Lord approves of us assessing one anothers behaviors and display of who we are and tells us to make determinations by the fruits we bare.
Let’s all be nice to each other here. I think that when a woman is wearing clothing so bad that it could make other people sin, specially in church one HAS to say something. Specially if no one else will. There is a difference:
We don’t judge private sins. That would be being a busy body.
We do try to stop (even without judging) PUBLIC sins. Because those we are certain of, and they harm other people.
That being said, it’s always important how we come across and we should try to do it in such a way that we make it easy for the other person to accept what we tell them, and discreetly to correct the situation.👍
@@thecatholicwire I agree. And that is why I apologized to her because I was not as kind as I could have been. I don't think I have been unkind here though - I am defending my own honor in that I am not a busy body not seeking to control others or hurt them in any way. I appreciate your feedback and certainly do take it to heart.
Women must cover up!
Ladies must be more strict in their dressing as women are endowed with breasts and butts sometimes too shapely. Its better to cover them up. I love to see female dressing in the 50s and some 60s movies. They were ladylike
It’s important to be modest without appearing too different from the rest of society. It’s ok to have dresses half the way of the leg, and it’s ok to have pants. In the past men wore skirts, including in Christendom. Throughout Catholic history women did not show their legs but emphasized their chest, and that was deemed ok unless they were religious.
I’m sorry but what the world does is not what the church teaches. It’s true that not ALL that I say here is required. (Something’s are of more perfection but not of obligation) yet we must base ourselves not on your or mine opinion but by what the church taught in the past. Certainly not by what the world does.
Modest is the hottest!
‘Hottest’? Seriously? This phrase is commonly used by Protestants and is offensive to women.
Father,I honestly believe that modesty in men and women is to be encouraged if not expected. This includes unnecessary exposure of the body however, you lost me on telling us to cover up to the ankles and wear a skirt. I am 87 years old and haven’t worn a skirt in years. Self-respect and common sense should dictate how women dress.
Man I’m waiting for you to suggest a burka
When we consider these matters, we are also reminded of some of the warnings of the Blessed Virgin at Fatima, Portugal, in 1917.
“Certain fashions will be introduced that will offend Our Lord very much… More souls go to helll because of sins of the flesh than for any other reason.”
Hey! If you like it, go ahead.
Modesty is not the same as a historical reenactment. I don't think the Eternal God cares about women's trousers.
Lets you practice using your imagination more, for sure!
It requires little thought imo to understand how immodest leggings are
Esp wen not worn w a very long shirt or sweater
But even so…
I think you’re talking about when people wear leggings as pants instead of only under a skirt or dress ? I wear my leggings for warmth under my skirts in the winter when I go to my TLM.
The church says pants are fine for women. This video is unrealistic and over the top. Women naturally must dress modestly, but culture must be reasonably respected.
My dear, the church never said that before Vatican II. And pants were well on their way. Much to the contrary, the ways of the world are opposed to the ways of God. Or, now that the culture is pushing girls to chop off their breasts and boys to do drag… should we also respect that? I don’t think you would say so. Thank you very much for your comment and for your interest!
@@thecatholicwire You can be a saint whether you were a dress or wear pants.
@dianneraimondi8382 Doing research and searching for truth is stronger than opinions. The Blessed Virgin Mary would never wear pants. She is our role model for the Trinity.
@@lisaabrusia5930 The blessed mother lived in a different culture.
He acknowledged loose fitting pants were something better than the tight painted on pants that most women wear today - I am paraphrasing his words but its the same meaning. HE is giving good advice not saying you have to follow it or that you cant be a good catholic if you wear pants. But wouldn't you be an even better person a better catholic if you were concerned about your neighbors and how they look at your form and wouldn't it be great if you were concernded to not be a temptation for them?
Every Sunday I see so many men and women in shorts and flip flops, this has to stop! As for pants for women, I agree that these should not be tight fitting but I wear long pants because I have a condition of my legs that make wearing a dress without embarrassment to me very difficult, so I wear modest slacks. As for distinguishing between sexes pants or skirt is not how you can tell. Try telling a Scotsman not to wear his kilt because they may think he is a woman!
My husband wants me to dress in tighter and more revealing clothes. I am too self-conscious to do that, but what is a wife to do in that situation?
Refuse to do so in public. If it’s in the intimacy it’s different but even then one should not give way to anything and everything.
Do what you are comfortable with
Father I am assuming that spanish IS your native language. Please put this video in Spanish
It’s in the channel “verdad Catolica “
The standards of Christian modesty state that skirts must cover the knees when sitting or standing. How then would it be immodest for us to walk around in a skirt that is two to three inches below the knee rather than ankle length? Why should women go back to Victorian standards of dress in order to be modest?
I always thought myself modestly dressed because my dresses and skirts all meet the standards of Christian modesty set by Pope Pius XI. So you are telling me that I have to wear long sleeves in summer and skirts down to my ankles or feet in order to be modest? What about little girls who like to play on the playground? Surely they can't manage climbing structures in a skirt down to the ankles. They can in a tea length skirt. (Mid calf length). I am raising five daughters and three sons. My youngest is six years old. My oldest is 18.
Having the girls never wear trousers or shorts would mean that they couldn't bike ride, go to ballet classes, or play on the girls' sports teams at their Novus Ordo parochial school. I would argue that bike riding is unsafe in an ankle length skirt. The skirt could get caught up in the chain. Even Victorian ladies wore the Victorian version of skorts when they rode bikes. Surely their split skirts were not immodest. My youngest daughter is in ballet. She was in the Nutcracker ballet last year as a mouse. So by this standard she would have to hang up her ballet shoes and never dance again. It doesn't seem fair. Ballet is an art that has been around for centuries. So by this standard since she is required to wear a leotard, tights and a short ballet skirt, she should never dance. The costume for being a mouse is a one piece body suit with a hood. It is the same for both boys and girls. You can't even see their faces when they are in full costume because they are covered with a mask. She has only one or two little boys in her class. Surely it is not immodest when the kids are only between four and seven years old? As long as she puts on a dress over her leotard after class, wouldn't she still be modest? They dance to classical ballet music.
My middle school aged daughter wanted to play soccer for her parochial school last year. The uniform is a short sleeve shirt and a pair of shorts and knee socks and cleats. It is a single sex sports team. Should she not be allowed to go out for any of the sports teams because she can't wear a dress while playing?
@@sherril.562 yes, I have seen girls from my church wearing short shorts outside of Mass and the ladies in trousers. It is a common sight outside of church.
One year, we were given presents from someone from church who was helping us out with Christmas presents. I asked for things that met the minimum standards of Christian modesty. They gave me mostly leggings.
@@sherril.562 I make my girls wear skirts with them. Their schoolmates wear leggings as trousers on non uniform days. Funny how their uniform is much more modest than their non uniform clothes. They are required to wear a uniform skirt or jumper with the leggings on uniform days and a polo shirt with a sweatshirt on cold days.
My girls wear skirts and dresses over their leggings usually when they are in public. At home, they are allowed to stay in their pyjamas. I suppose I should put my foot down on that, but it's hard to do because they've been lounging around in pyjama bottoms for years now. I myself have been guilty of doing that, but I am trying to get away from that these days and set a better example.
I gave up dance when I realized how immodest it was even in the seventeenth century. And how prostitution has always and still is connected with the business.
@@user-hd4kv7vc6i ballet originated in the French royal court. It was developed from there into an art that it is today. I don't know anything about prostitution connected with ballet. Nor do I see evidence of it in the Nutcracker or the other classical ballets.
Catholic schools, prior to Vatican II, used to teach ballet classes to their girls in all girls preparatory schools. It develops grace, poise, and balance. Duschesne Academy in Omaha Nebraska, which used to be owned by the Sisters of the Sacred Heart, has a ballet studio in the oldest part of the building because the Sisters used to teach the girls ballet in order to develop their sense of grace and balance. These girls often went on to marry well. The Catholic faith was very much a part of their education too before Vatican II. The school has lost a lot since Vatican II, but it is still an all girls' academy with high academic standards. The Sisters are all gone now, but their spirit permeates the building anyway. I know because I visited once.
I have my youngest daughter in an academy that only teaches ballet and contemporary. It does not teach any other forms of dance. They dance to classical music. In the upper levels of ballet, classes are segregated according to sex. None of the movements in ballet, and I have seen a lot of ballet over the years because my youngest is not my only daughter who has been in ballet, are suggestive. So, I respectfully do not agree with your assessment that all forms of dance are immodest and rooted in prostitution.
@@megangreene3955 okay, well, professional ballerinas are encouraged to prostitute themselves, and this hasn't been anything new to the business of ballet.
And those who funded the dancers expected to be payed in return for their investment.
The ballet theatres used to have floors for the purpose of doing unmentionables.
A gun is way different
Y'all dress how you want.
Please don't shame (or comment on, at least initially) those newcomers who come into your churches not dressed to your standards. They're probably very self conscious as it is.
Father do you belong to FSSP order?
CMRI linked.
I never understand why women dress so shamelessly. They say it’s because of the summer heat, but you don’t see guys wearing these shorts that are so short one can’t even tell whether they are panties. Or shirts that are so shot one can’t tell whether it’s a shirt. Do guys not also feel the same heat? Why don’t guys dress with same short clothes?
Why on earth would you insult Muslim people by calling them pagans, Father?
It’s not an insult to Muslim people but to the errors of their false beliefs. The idea that “all religions are the same” it’s an error originating in Vatican II and a little before. Condemned by the Church
@@thecatholicwire thanks for replying. They worship one God though. The God of Abraham. I guess I'm struggling to see that as pagan.
I understand. Technically, yes, one could make a distinction for the sake of clarity. We usually refer to pagans as those who worship multiple deities, or simply smaller false religions; while Islam is referred to by name on account of its size and importance. I believe we cannot say (as Vatican II says) that “they worship the true God” since they Do not believe in the most Holy Trinity, nor in Jesus Christ as God. They worship “Alah”.
@@thecatholicwire I see what you mean, but our orthodox family also call God 'Allah'. I guess I find the word 'pagan' when applied to other abrahamic religious a bit hostile maybe, but I understand that's not what you meant by it. Thanks for your kind reply 🙏
Why do muslims constantly invade Christian lands?