Stop. Being. Nostalgic
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- This video was supposed to be a defense for the recent Pixar original films like Luca, Turning Red, and Elemental. But after seeing a fair amount of discourse against recent shows like Amphibia, and seeing all of the sequels and remakes being announced, I realized that most of the problems I have with media discourse boils down to nostalgia; and I find that extremely infuriating.
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• Amphibia x The Owl Hou...
I like this quote:
“Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. But today is a gift. That is why its called present.”
to bad kfp4 was mid
@kirbyisthegoat-v6u
But kfp 1 and 2 remain masterpieces. No nostalgia needed.
@@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735 And if u want to count 3 too to bring things full circle, then why not.
It's a complete package.
MASTER OOGWAY
@@n8thanwithan8 If only there wasn't a youtuber called Master Oogway.
“Amphibia is for white people”
…Anne is literally Thai and a lot of that culture is present throughout the show, so IDK what the person who wrote that was smoking
"Change can be difficult, but it's how we grow. It can be the hardest thing to realize you can't hold on to something forever. Sometimes, you have to let it go. But of the things you let go, you'd be surprised what makes its way... back to you." - Anne Boonchuy from the episode "The Hardest Thing"
I believe this quote fits very well in terms of nostalgia. IT IS the hardest thing to let go of something, so we desperately try to hold it on for as long as possible, even at the insult of new things.
And no more quotes that's nostalgic
You said it, pal! Nostalgia bait is basically what ruins media in general. People are just bitching about how things were easier in the past. Those people might as well be Dinosaurs
I mean it depends. The world was better in the past but I agree with you
Dinosaurs are awesome
Its kind of true but theyre ignoring this way any good things we have now, because obviously there was world crisis and price of everything has gone up and quality of life down nobody is denying that but theyre annoying and dont make it any better, nostalgia is for now to compare rather than lament to the past.
in the monster high fandom, G1 stans cancelled an entire kids tv show because G3 didn’t live up to their nostalgia 💀💀 the G1 stans straight up grown and hating on a show that’s meant for THEIR kids 😂
Aren’t Dinosaurs _also_ nostalgia then?
That Amphibia situation on twitter was so dumb and I regret making a video about it. But to the point, nostalgia itself is never a bad thing. It's how it gets used or how we try to justify is when it becomes a problem. I'm 31 years old, I have shows I grew up with that I know are different from today's programming for a multitude of reasons. But I still want to give new shows a try if they appeal to me in some fashion. If it's a good show and I don't vibe with it, the most I can do is not watch it. Let others enjoy their shows. A lot of shows and movies want to tell different stories that are based upon our individual experiences of the world, and I think that's great. Let's encourage more of that. Let more voices be heard. Let's just... have fun.
I'll always support amphibia so much
Idk why people hate calarts in the first place. They could just say they hate Steven universe since most hated towards Calarts is just Steven hate
I have a theory that society has a thirty year nostalgia gap. Back in the 90's the 60's were popular, because it was considered nostalgic. Now were in the 2020's and the 90's are nostalgic.
That's what I was thinking. As time goes by, the newer generations become nostalgic for different eras from the past.
I mean, Back To The Future is a movie about an 80's teenage boy traveling to the 50's. And I also remember people were nostalgic for the 80's in the 2010's. Back To The Future Part II anyone?
@@jayteethepuppetguy More like the ageing generation starts to miss their youth.
Id say 20-30 years, that's about the time it takes for kids to grow up into adults and be nostalgic for their childhood
Honestly more like 20 years
There's nothing wrong with nostalgia, or being nostalgic, but if these corporations are being nostalgic just to make a profit, then that's a problem.
Fr
Believe it or not, i used to be like these idiots who's stuck in the past. I few years back i was holding onto My Little Pony G4 in an unhealthy way, refusing to embrace G5 as the next one. It was during the whole promotion of the Netflix film, "My Little Pony: A New Generation" Eventually i had to overcome this obsession of G4 and just move on.....
Dude, there is literaaly drama going on in that fandom right now over g5 possibly ending!!
...but I'm glad you're matured.
I heavily agree with you on this. And especially when TV shows from the 80’s and 90’s constantly rely on Nostalgia and past references to carry the most recent episodes. It’s just so annoying. Original ideas need to happen or else it’ll just get repetitive real fast
I think that a good way to perceive nostalgia is to treat it as the world you want. Work to make things be like the way you nostalgically see them, if something was genuinely better in the past, work to make it that way again. If you remember a creation to be better than it is, work to create something similar but in the way that you perceived it to be. Nostalgia is my driving force, I am shaping the things I make by basically inverting nostalgia bias, it’s great, y’all’s should try it
Thank you. It's so damn annoying to see this. An exemple I would like to mention is the Total Drama Reboot. The casual fans (not the fandom itself, but the "oh yeah, I liked it as a kid" people) are so blinded by nostalgia that they became incredibly annoying genwunners. When the newest cast was revealed, these people obviously complained, saying that they still wanted Gen 1, which has already been run into the ground, especially in season 5. It's like they forgot about that. In the end tho, the new cast became the second most beloved cast after the first one, with some saying that it's even better than the first one. Also, honestly, these nostalgic people make me worry that Fairly Oddparents A New Wish will get cancelled because it's more niche than the original and I'm worried that not many people outside of the fandom would give it a chance because of nostalgia bias
And one of the worst things about Nostalgia Bait is once beloved directors who have been called out for banging legs and unsolicited embraces are still desperate for their reputation as creators of beloved movies, that they have to hammer down the implications in the trailers. And I thing you know who I am talking about.
Honestly, it's a cycle. Look at how many 2010s movies are considered nostalgic now. In the next 10 years Luca, Turning Red, the like are definitely gonna fit in that category too....
U see this in practicly every fandom. The most popular thing is usualy just whatever the majority grew up on even if said thing was widely hated back when it was new
Usually with a mix of “criminally underrated” or something
You have valid reasons there.
The main reasons I was never truly interested in some of Pixar’s more recent films like Luca and Turning Red is primarily because of their use of very tired tropes I mostly could not stand even back in “the good old days” (bullies). Yet that’s just a personal pet peeve I have and I respect the films as such that are worth watching for others. I was skeptical about Elemental but I watched it and had a decent experience, as I can relate to it a bit in a way, as I’m an American immigrant turned citizen in France.
Also I find Amphibia to be quite cool.👍
I have to agree, while it is nice to look back at the films we grow up with, we should look to the future and appreciate the effort put into newer films.
Also, even if I think about the flaws of your favorite show. The online drama about Amphibia is too silly of take itself seriously.
I'm kinda mixed on this video. Yeah nostalgia can hurt the views of modern stuff both animated I won't argue there (That drama with Amphibia is just dumb) and I also agree that people need to embrace new stuff more, but IMO, nostalgia should also be viewed nowadays as well as embracing new stuff. Not the way Disney is doing it with live action and remakes but when it comes to new shows like introducing shows like Phineas and Ferb and the DuckTales reboot for a new audience to experience.
For example, I for one am excited for the new Phineas and Ferb revival even though people have some concerns with it. But Hamster and Gretel while having a premise done before in newer shows is at least interesting and great to watch IMO.
On the opposite end of that spectrum, as much as I like the original DuckTales series, I can't deny (and II'm gonna get a ton of hate for saying this) but some stuff of the show has not aged well, but we now have the reboot that in many ways surpassed the original and more memorable.
I do apologize if my thoughts are jumbled, but there's a lot I wanted to say caus ewith this video there's a ton I agree with and some that I disagree with.
Honestly, the reboot of DuckTales has gone very well with fans the last few years, especially after the TV series ended in 2021. (I haven’t seen much of Phineas and Ferb, so I can’t comment on the show)
I miss the old versions of a lot of things, but I don’t complain and go “old bad new good cause I’m sigma”
another youtuber I watch, apelucas, made a video on why old media should be viewed. in that entire video, he never used nostalgia as leverage. you can view old media, but don't use it as a tool. yes, I like fnaf, Undertale, adventure time, and gravity falls, but I also like amazing digital circus and amphibia.
I completely agree. Especially with Pixar case. It annoys me so much when I see people on UA-cam or other social media platforms that would constantly glorify Pixar’s older movies like Toy Story, The Incredibles, and Ratatouille, but would continue to throw recent movies like Soul, Turning Red , and Elemental under the bus, because they don’t find those movies to be on par with Pixar’s old movies.
I think they’re right about Turning Red! Why would any Pixar fan want to see a teenage girl twerking in a family movie? And that Nostalgia Bait isn’t even the fault of viewers, it’s the executives and officers of the companies that are pandering so hard, they refuse to let any original creations thrive. And for TTG, while not necessarily the worst cartoon from Cartoon Network, has been going on for longer than it should, I mean, 11 years and the show still hasn’t run out of ideas yet. Why should we change if the companies behind the oversaturation of successful shows are doing anything but?
@@robinsordahl8947it’s 10 seconds out of an hour, that is not the main selling point of the movie, you are literally doing the exact thing he talked about in the video.
And it’s a movie about teenagers, teenagers can be cringe
He talked about sequels and reboots in the video, which makes me think you didn’t watch it
Companies can’t pander to an audience if it doesn’t exist, if nostalgia bait gets them money then they’ll nostalgia bait, but if it doesn’t? Then they won’t nostalgia bait
@@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo the part "it’s a movie about teenagers, teenagers can be cringe" is so true. Complaining about cringe in a movie about teens is like going to watch a horror movie and complain about how "ew it's scary me not like!1!!11".
This guy fr said "stop feeling a specific emotion" 😭
He didn’t say that, he said to not let it completely stop you from accepting new movies
@@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo I'm talking about the thumbnail, and if the thumbnail isn't accurate to his video, that's his problem
tbh, nostalgia isn't really an emotion. Yeah, it was in inside out 2, but it was just for a gag, nostalgia theoritically isn't an "emotion", more of a human behavior
Tell me you haven't watched the video without telling me.
@@MathisMakesContent the thumbnail says “nostalgia ruins everything” that’s accurate to the videov
“stop being nostalgic” dawg its a human emotion like 😭💀
watch the video.
I don't have a lot of Nostalgia for things, so when i look at modern movies and media, i feel a little mixed, There's still a bunch of great modern movies, but i still prefer older media just cause it's cooler for me, but that's fine.
when ya don't like something, just don't watch it, that is, don't watch it if you can't criticize it properly, but it's worth giving it try from times, doesn't work out, that's fine!
Fr
Well it doesn't hurt have nostalgic flims & shows to look back on
Watch the video pls 🙃
@@MarngelRambles oh now I get it
bruh. Nostalgia is okay
I used to think that nostalgia was the last emotion filmmakers should make you feel. Then I saw inside Out 2, and the first emotion I felt was nostalgia. The thing is Inside Out 2 had an amazing story most sequels, prequels, spin-offs, remakes, reboots and adaptations are to lazy to have a good story and abuse nostalgia, and have that emotion be the only reason the film makes a product. Nostalgia isn’t necessarily bad and ruining the film industry, it’s corporate laziness.
Hot take:
I feel Disenchanted was low-key a criticism of nostalgia.
Considering how Giselle longs for the fairy tale life she had, but ends up seeing some of the flaws of living that sort of life.
Nostalgia didn’t ruin Pixar. It was cars two quite literally, the movie tanked Pixar with this stupid characters and desaturated animation and lack of story
IMO, Lightyear really took their characters to a new level of stupid and a huge lack of a boring story than Cars 2.
NO! Cars 2 wasn't that bad! And no, it did not "ruin" Pixar, you guys just never gave the movie a chance!
@@fanofyoshi2238 I watched Cars 2 as a kid. And still to this day. Probably should’ve mentioned that Cars 2 is more watchable than Lightyear.
@@encantosashathomasamity9548 Yeah, i kinda agree on that point. Even though i found Light-year... fine, i think Cars 2 has more rewatch value.
Also, i was replying to the other guy earlier lol
Toxic nostalgia can also be literally dangerous as well in that toxic nostalgia can lead to the rise of fascism.
"Frutiger Aero" almost became unbearable because of this
In spite of my skepticism towards corporations and how they manage their profits, I am a lot more open minded than most people regarding new shows and/or movies.
There is nostalgia and constructive criticism vs. blind hating and baiting. Definitely give the new stuff try, but it’s ok to not like it if you really just don’t vibe with it. Because indie animation has been doing incredible well this year in my opinion/experience, but the industry stuff after covid (Soul, Luca, & Turning Red failed in my opinion from having it be on Disney+ not because nobody watched it) has been very lackluster lately.
This is very true, I am one of those people who tend to remember only good nostalgic moments, and completely forget the bad ones. But right now I'm trying to remember things more honestly, including all the stengths AND flaws. For example, as a kid I LOVED Disney's "Hercules", but as I rewatched it (about a year ago) I realized how much sеxism is in this movie. The character of Phil, who I thought was very funny as a child, now I think is kinda dіsgusting in a lot of moments. So, I don't see this movie as a perfect masterpiece anymore, but it doesn't mean that everyone should hаtе it or something. It still has great animation, songs, story, etc. It just isn't perfect, as many people blindеd by nostalgia might think.
I think I have similar feelings towards parts of the first National Lampoon Vacation movie?
But to be fair, I didn't grow up watching it, so.....
I can't wait for the sequel "Stop. Being. Embarrased."
Well, right-wing nostalgia is pretty much worse example of blind nostalgia to extreme. Than personal, religious, cultural, subcultural like fandom, or even ‘left-wing’ and ‘far-left’ political blind nostalgia combined.
I agree that nostalgia can make us less open-minded and that we should stay interested in things we’re not used to.
However, some people, like in the Mario Kart community, should really stop saying "nostalgia bias" when I share an opinion they disagree with.
Mario Kart 7 was one of the 3 Mario Kart games I grew up with (the others being MKDS and MKWII), and despite this game still holding up even without the nostalgia goggles, tracks like Cheep Cheep Cape or 3DS Bowser’s Castle are still mid to me.
We need more original movies, the animation guild needs to strike for more original autobiographical stories, no more unnecessary sequels and live action remakes
or self-loathing live action remakes for that matter too.
@@Chadjr2009 what does that mean
But these corporate greeds won't give them a chance.
@@Mariofanaticanimations I’m referring to crew teams and even entertainment studios like Disney get out of its way to pretend their animated ‘remake’ films (or 3D CGI hybrid ones) as “live-action” through aggressive means.
Oh please... They already did that and fail anyway, i did they need to do more sequels
Nickelodeon is the single worst thing when it comes to nostalgia blind fans.
Make mention of ANY show that came out after 2007 and it ain't gonna be pretty
I learned that the hard way when speculating on the Nickelodeon crossover games that GameMill made from 2018-2023
As as all around Nick fan, I refuse to stick to my era of the channel and like certain shows from 1986 to today regardless of what my fellow 90's kids have to say
People nowadays mainly think Nick does nothing but milk that sponge and The Silent House to death, which yeah technically they are some of Nickelodeon’s most well-known franchises in modern times, that DOESN’T mean that they don’t make anything good anymore, or that they disrespect their older properties (unless if it’s stuff like the new Sandy Cheeks movie).
I mean Glitch Techs, FOP A New Wish, and Nickelodeon’s own TMNT reboots were pretty well-recieved. I can’t really imagine someone thinking that they’re trash unless if they’re just petty nostalgia-blind (if u dont like these shows no offense and u may have valid points, but plz don’t use “it’s not what I grew up with” as an excuse.)
And while Nick’s future may not look the brightest and it’s reputation has been incredibly hindered by a certain creepy individual, it’s not like Im gonna give up knowing what new stuff they have in store. You just never know until you find out! If anything, I’m just scared that they’ll rely TOO MUCH on nostalgia without giving their lesser-known cartoons a chance. I guess that’s why they threw a bunch of crap off of Paramount+. 😧💀🚩
That and my fellow 90's kids are super elitist gatekeepers
sometimes its not nostalgia though. sometimes even after letting he nostalgia wear off entirely there's still issues. for example: i think the trend of oversimplifying designs looks bad. this is not because im thinking about the good old days, i had noticed the trend immediately once it started, and in a very real sense it goes against my tastes.
That’s genuine criticism, the video is taking about mindless hating
We stop being nostalgic, and watch Disney's stock PLUMMET!
This is exactly what goes on with SpongeBob. People are overly nostalgic towards the first 3 seasons and hate and dismiss everything released after the first movie.
In my opinion some of the characters became very flanderized, it feels like SpongeBob became a lot dumber over time
There’s still great episodes, one of my favorite episodes is from Season 7, but some of it isn’t that good
There were also some bad episodes in the the first three seasons, but nobody talks about them because of nostalgia
The Star Wars fanbase in a nutshell
I can’t believe I’m saying this is, you’re absolutely right about nostalgia. I mean, nothing wrong with it, but I see what you mean. I’ve heard someone say nostalgia doesn’t always equal good, if you agree with this statement.
Think positive!
- Joy, Inside Out
THANK! YOU!
Yes, it's true that we can't rely on nostalgia for everything, and we definitely need to welcome new stuff!
Except the Splash Mountain Tiana retheme, that shit is ass.
I love amphibia and the pixar films so much!
Marngel, are you in touch with Chandler from Sunnyland Productions? You two would get along pretty well.
I agree with your statement about using the the past to create new experiences for the future. Back in 2004, the movie "The Incredibles" was able to create a sense of nostalgia while not having to be based on an existing IP.
Beautiful speech it made me tear up. I love the old Disney and Pixar films. I have nostalgia for them, but I also love the new ones.
this conversation goes al over. Bottom line nostalgia not bad.
There is hate for original ideas and demand for more of what used to exist
Hate for old franchises and demand for new ideas
Hate for changes to old things
Love for changes to old things
And both hate and love for sexualizing characters , letting them enter puberty, giving them a Canon physical attraction
A lot of peoples anger at new original ideas is. It has the wrong amount of sex, profanity , violence or wrong main focus.
A feeling that new shows censor too much or don't censor enough
Its not just nostalgia, its change in morals
Intolerance of art quality and technology
writing styles and messages
Bottom line our sides have been around for decades. Today we hate on Caped Crusader but when it first came out people hated on Tim Burton's Batman for much the same reason.
Its not so much nostalgia, its how much or how little sex, blood, nudity, profanity, we want our or other people's children to be exposed too.
i'm sorry but this sounds kinda edgy
Positive comment so this gets high in the algorithm
this is probably one of the most based takes on movies in general i've seen, nice
I haven’t seen elemental yet and I might’ve been too young to really appreciate soul.
(19 when it released.) but I absolutely loved turning red and Luca so I completely get where you’re coming from with how nostalgia can really damage our enjoyment of modern classics and how hypercritical comparison is the thief of joy.
I think I understand what this video is trying to Say, And I agree
The Title seems a bit too much like click-bait, my guy.
I like it 😊
Not really, he complains about nostalgia in the video, kinda easy to see
Thank You.
I love Luca (2021) and ELEMENTAL (2023) from PIXAR so dearly.
Would be rewatching them sometime soon...
I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKED ELEMENTAL RAAAAHHHH
Me too I thought it was a cool film.
Same, one of my favorites
Ugh, same
Agreed 100%. You took the words right out of my mouth.
I needed to hear this badly. I hate when Pixar stans glorify the classic films stating that their films were hardly schmaltzy when in reality they’ve mostly been schmaltzy in its lessons and moments. Even The Incredibles did. EmpLemon’s video on Pixar was revolting to me.
My favourite trait about myself is the lack of being blinded by nostalgia
I loved minecraft as a kid but I know minecraft is better now
I also think that Mario kart 8 and smash bros ultimate are better than the previous games I grew up with (Mario kart wii and smash bros wii u)
I kid you not every comment on the Official Hungry Shark channel is nostalgia blind
But it also sweetens everything...
friend inside me
What about implementing nostalgia in movies even if it includes original movies
Unrelated when turning red was coming out I got really hyped out of nowhere then I watched it a bunch and now I haven’t watched it for 2 years also the weird part is…I’m a guy
Criticisms I can levy against old pixar movies:
1. Wall-E: The first act is so ambitious in comparison to everything that goes on in the 2nd and 3rd that it makes the film feel a bit lobsided.
2. The Incredibles: Has strong themes of exclusionary exceptionalism that has caused thousands of neurotypical creators online to see neurodivergent people as non-adaptable to certain environments.
3. Monster's Inc. : Boo's Costume Fools everyone, despite what Mike says at the start of using it where it looks fake as h3ll to him.
Cam we all agree that the original teen titans was great?
That can also prove that nostalgia bait isn't good when it comes to teen titans go. That whole show was just a nostalgia crap box.
@@Crispydogs101yeah they even make fun of how hated the show is in some of the episodes and the second movie
@@Crispydogs101 the 03 teen titans not ttg
@@TheAllSeeingEye2468 Yeah I know. It shows proof originality should sometimes stay the way they are without a reboot.
@@Crispydogs101I feel like TTTE sorta relates to what you’re saying, how originality should stay the same without a reboot, if you know what I mean.
THANK YOU
The future is darker than ever and we can’t keep going back on our best moments for comfort, we all have to accept that our highest points are over, we aren’t getting them back and that it only gets worse from here.
What we all need to do now js bond together and accept defeat, life is getting harder to live than ever and theirs no point in fight back
Just lay down and let your world burn.
You lost.
Dude, don't say that. Try to find the good things in life. Even if it's just small things like a good meal or a nice flower you saw.
(In a way) Ironically Understandable (from _your_ perspective/belief/preference)…
Also you sound like you’re very cool and awesome at parties.
I agree
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This discussion reminds me of Anton Ego's Review from Ratatouille:
"In many ways, the work of a critic is easy. We risk very little, yet enjoy a position over others in which they offer up their work and their selves to our judgement. We thrive on negative criticism, which is fun to write and to read. But the important thing we critics must face is--in the grand scheme of things--the average piece of junk is probably more meaningful than our criticism designating it so. But there are times when a critic truly risks something, and that is in the discovery and defense of the 'new.' The world is often unkind to new talent, new creations. The 'new' needs friends. Last night I had experienced something new: an extraordinary meal, from a singularly unexpected source. To say that both the meal and its maker have challenged my preconceptions about fine cooking is a gross understatement. They have rocked me to my core..."
Nah i will keep nostalgia
I barely watched Amphibia one year ago and I'm already super nostalgic of it.
Star Wars fandom:...
I Too Nostalgic
You sound like you’re 26 and you’re talking about amphibia
8:37: “People who are not open to new ideas”
Funnily enough those same people complain about the abundance of remakes/sequels and the lack of new ideas
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