The most unique railcar? | An insider tour of EBT M-1

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  • The ‪@EastBroadTopRailroad‬ 's M-1 motorcar is a really unique vehicle. When I was out at the railroad, I got to chat with it's caretaker, and get a close up look of this wacky and cool gas-electric motorcar.
    Thanks to ‪@NickOzorak‬ for putting it together.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 133

  • @kANGaming
    @kANGaming Рік тому +105

    So what you are saying is this is Choo Fast Choo Furious material.

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому +42

      If it gets a turbo, for sure.

    • @rocketplane8862
      @rocketplane8862 Рік тому +14

      Inline 6? Insert obligatory "2JZ. no shit!?" here.

    • @ericbonanno5214
      @ericbonanno5214 Рік тому +7

      ​@@rocketplane8862 just do an LS swap. 😂😂😂😂

    • @ShadowDragon8685
      @ShadowDragon8685 Рік тому +7

      @@Hyce777 It's a funny joke... But _would_ a large engine like that benefit from some kind of forced-air intake, whether turbo- or super-charged?

    • @kimpatz2189
      @kimpatz2189 Рік тому +4

      It would benefit... Might be a recommendation for more efficiency

  • @robertsanders6463
    @robertsanders6463 5 місяців тому +2

    In memory of my wife, we visited the EBT on a Winter Steam Spectacular back in 70's sometime. I was photo shooting everything I could including the EBT roundhouse where two steam locomotives where getting ready for the days runs but something caused my wife and I to pause and look at something different, the M-1, My wife and myself kept walking around the coach We were amazing by bit. Then someone approached us and asked if we would stay with the locomotive M-1 while he had to attend a operational/safety meeting. Yes by all means.The M-1 has a special place in my heart , I hope to revisit her again soon. My wife Shirley has passed but I still have a collection of slides of our numerous visits to the EBT,

  • @xenowreborn
    @xenowreborn Рік тому +40

    M-1 really is a Unique vehicle, from what I've gathered from the video, built within the EBT's very own shops! which is just really cool!

  • @emilpersson8250
    @emilpersson8250 Рік тому +12

    I have a soft spot for early diesel railcars. In Sweden we have quite a lot of diesel mechanical so called railbusses built from 1934 onwards in a couple of variations.

    • @ShadowDragon8685
      @ShadowDragon8685 Рік тому +3

      Unfortunately this is not a diesel railcar, it's a _gasoline_ railcar. The American slang term for them is "Doodlebug," and one of them was involved in a very infamous 1940s incident wherein it partially-asphyxiated the driver, who suffered cognitively from that, missed a signal, and then barely had time to warn two other crewmen and leap clear himself before the thing crashed into a freight train. 43 people died _horribly._ After that, they were forced to convert them all to diesel power.
      Admittedly, there were other design flaws - namely the engine which just kind of like, leaked exhaust into the driver's cab being responsible for the driver missing the signal 'cause he was being poisoned, that wasn't great at all, and I doubt diesel would have helped with that, but it was the gasoline fire that was the most killer aspect.

  • @joshuabrunais3527
    @joshuabrunais3527 Рік тому +25

    You gotta just love the preservation that the EBT has to offer. As always love the content Hyce!

  • @spunbearing65
    @spunbearing65 7 місяців тому

    Love to see them make a comeback. Lots of abandoned ROWs to retrack for home built “vehicles” as well. Scamtrak goes where we aren’t. Let’s do it ourselves.

  • @DaltonCypherUSATC5019
    @DaltonCypherUSATC5019 Рік тому +14

    Courtney is an awesome guy, he's taught me alot, I have pictures somewhere of the spare crank and pistons we have tucked away somewhere

  • @A_person473
    @A_person473 Рік тому +13

    Once again, a wonderful video. The East Broad Too is really pulling through after shutting down like, two times? The M-1 really looks like a special locomotive, especially being constructed in the 1920's!

  • @espeescotty
    @espeescotty Рік тому +1

    Wow, that thing is beyond COOL! And it is still nearly 100% original too. Roller bearings too...ahead of her time.

  • @PennsyPappas
    @PennsyPappas Рік тому +10

    A Narrow guage Doodlebug is just so fascinating since you often dont think about Narrow Guage when talking about Doodlebugs. Absolutely fascinating to see this piece if railroad history and i bet its quite loud sitting right next to the mototr. But that is par for the cpurse with railroading back in the day and the fuys would just putnup with it. Whats more amazing is that it was never converted to diesel. So many standard guahe doodlebugs were converted to diesel after the Pennsylvania Rajlroad incident and so to see one still in its original gasoline form is another rarity in and of itself.
    Absolute wonderful little video showcasing it, absolutely loved it.

  • @ShadowDragon8685
    @ShadowDragon8685 Рік тому +6

    So I'm like, _so_ torn about this thing.
    It's _amazing,_ like, jaw-dropping incredible that this thing still runs, with its _own original parts._
    But it's a gas railcar. _It's a Doodlebug!_ There's a reason we know that as a _dangerous name,_ because if that thing ever crashes, fwoomp! Gasoline fire! That happened in Cuyahoga Falls in 1940; the PRR crashed a Doodlebug into a freight train and 43 people died horribly. There's a _reason_ the Pennsy was made to withdraw the dratted things and convert them to diesel power.
    Having said that, it also looks like this thing is actually better-designed _than_ the PRR class GRW275, since it seems designed in such a manner as to be drawing fresh air constantly across the driver's face. So, props to the EBTRR back in the day for banging together an in-house design that's clearly *objectively* superior to the Pullman design.
    I'm so conflicted. I'd hate to say it should be pulled from service, or made to undergo massive alterations to run on diesel, but at the same time, _there is a good reason we don't have gasoline railcars anymore._ So conflicted!

    • @ReggieArford
      @ReggieArford 2 місяці тому +1

      Pullman design? Look again... that's classic *Brill* design. Brill/Westinghouse, actually. And most of the passengers are in a separate coach, #8, also equipped with Timken roller bearing journals.

    • @ShadowDragon8685
      @ShadowDragon8685 2 місяці тому +1

      @ReggieArford the Pennsylvania Railroad were operating Pullmans. Did you read my entire comment?

  • @gingerday6654
    @gingerday6654 Рік тому +1

    Just was there yesterday for Mother’s Day. Took my wife and our 7 month old. We all enjoyed it and loved all the volunteers who were super helpful! Also had to see a car that not many know isn’t original to the Coach fleet! Orbisonia… originally the Orbisonia car was part of the B.B & K railway in Bradford, Pa. When it shut down it was bought by the E.B.T and has lived there since! From the small Narrow gauge 3hrs away it made it to an amazing forever home on the E.B.T. ❤️

  • @patrickwebb7311
    @patrickwebb7311 Рік тому +1

    Love the collaboration with Nick and Hyce. Hope we see it more, perhaps Hyce on the Roundhouse podcast??? Also would love to see the M-1 haul a short train.

    • @ReggieArford
      @ReggieArford 2 місяці тому +1

      Not likely. They baby that car, and never "push" it with much of a load.

  • @kevinbeverly4086
    @kevinbeverly4086 Рік тому +4

    That is an amazing piece of history. It's really awesome that they are trying to keep it as original as possible.

  • @patricksheary2219
    @patricksheary2219 Рік тому +2

    Wow Mark that is ultra, ultra cool. To see period equipment from that time still operating makes me cry! To echo you absolutely admirable that the E.B.T. crew keeps all the original parts in place. I have only seen carbon regulators like those at the Smithsonian. But to see them in their original installation and working blows my mind. What a national technological treasure. Thanks to Mr. Brown for sharing his expertise. As always thanks Professor for sharing your tour with us! Cheers!

  • @Midland1072Productions
    @Midland1072Productions Рік тому +4

    Awesome video on M-1!! She may not run often but its always special when she does.

  • @CMDRSweeper
    @CMDRSweeper Рік тому +4

    Cute! An interesting early DMU, or perhaps GMU in this case.

  • @georgen.8027
    @georgen.8027 Рік тому

    Holy shit... that thing is a beautifully preserved machine

  • @TrainBandit
    @TrainBandit Рік тому +1

    Ya to fallow up on what hyce said. The first EBT video is amazing and you should definitely check it out. Great video, the forward and reverse is hilarious.

  • @highball5550
    @highball5550 Рік тому +1

    Awesome video! Nice little treat before High School graduation tonight.

  • @CrustyOldDave
    @CrustyOldDave Рік тому +3

    Oh Hyce,.....Hyce, this was beautiful. So very professionally done. Really fun and informative. Very cool. Thank you.

  • @mrmodelrailways2444
    @mrmodelrailways2444 Рік тому

    funny, in South Australia there was a lot of brill cars in use here; they came in 3ft 6in/4ft 8 1/2 and 5ft 3in.
    they were used nearly everywhere on all rail networks in the SAR (South Australian Railways) from the 1910s all the way up till the 1970s.

  • @BandanRRChannel
    @BandanRRChannel Рік тому +2

    Alex, give me "Things I wish we had at Sumpter" for $200, please.
    I'm told the railroad had a couple of little gas powered railcars, mostly for the sparsely traveled Bates-Prairie City segment. Neither survived very long.

  • @zachariahmclaughlin919
    @zachariahmclaughlin919 Рік тому +2

    Amazing as always

  • @PowerTrain611
    @PowerTrain611 Рік тому

    I am blown away by how awesome and unique this thing is.
    Aw, crap...Now I gotta make it in Garrys Mod...

  • @jpaulkepler4638
    @jpaulkepler4638 Рік тому

    Now, bear in mind , I've only heard this once , some years ago that the engine in M-1 is surplus from BRILL that was originally built for US Navy airships. This makes sense with the two plugs per cylinder. If the ignition is magneto , that would further confirm this. Please correct me if I am wrong.
    Excellent video, as usual.

    • @DaltonCypherUSATC5019
      @DaltonCypherUSATC5019 Рік тому

      It is, dual magneto

    • @ReggieArford
      @ReggieArford 2 місяці тому

      You're right, the Brill gas motor was a proposed design for blimp motors. It's got an aluminum engine block, very high-tech for the time. And aerobatic carburetors! ROTFL!

  • @rgsrrofnc
    @rgsrrofnc Рік тому +2

    Another wonderful video there! Thanks for sharing it.

  • @Surkai25
    @Surkai25 Рік тому

    Pretty incredible machine. Not to mention a very good "knee jerk" decision to make it in order to be able to stay competitive with mail delivery for it's time.

  • @Cragified
    @Cragified Рік тому +1

    I didn't know there was still a running Doodlebug!

  • @rusty_gold_garage7138
    @rusty_gold_garage7138 Рік тому +2

    Just imagine when M-1 was built the Model A didnt yet exist.

  • @kennethwhitmer4232
    @kennethwhitmer4232 Рік тому

    the feeling of this episode reminds me of something on either PBS or RFDTV

  • @spagelsmegal
    @spagelsmegal Рік тому +1

    I saw pictures of this thing but my gosh that’s a good looking railcar

  • @levimccallum7722
    @levimccallum7722 Рік тому

    "what horn do you want?"
    "the goofy one"

  • @alexlail7481
    @alexlail7481 Рік тому +1

    That's a cool 'hybrid'. 😁
    BTW... with a 7½" bore I'm kinda surprised that it doesn't have 3 plugs per cylinder, it must be fairly low rpm design... The larger the diameter of the cylinder the farther the flame front must travel before the piston reaches top-dead-center (TDC) if you want the best power and efficiency. Normally you can advance the spark timing to compensate for the rpm (really the pistons vertical speed of travel). The flame front speed is based on a series of factors more or less locked in by the design of the engine. So once you max out the advance window you start adding extra spark plugs to get multiple flame fronts traveling across the cylinder (hopefully). Another cool video.

  • @jamesTBurke
    @jamesTBurke Рік тому +1

    Proof that stuff these days are designed to break. 1926. That makes her 97 years old

  • @larrycurran8036
    @larrycurran8036 Рік тому

    Nice tour of the M1. 😺

  • @patrickmcneilly4293
    @patrickmcneilly4293 Рік тому

    Hyce, the way this video starts out and the way you talk during it has some This Old House vibes 10/10

  • @carlenger9707
    @carlenger9707 Рік тому

    So cool seeing you at Colorado Crossings the other day my guy!

  • @Lazarus7000
    @Lazarus7000 Рік тому

    What an amazing thing to have preserved so perfectly! And a relatively early implementation of electro-motive drive like a modern locomotive, too, truly a unique item!

  • @ZacharyChristy-Aronson-wg5ki
    @ZacharyChristy-Aronson-wg5ki Рік тому +2

    Amazing machine. Thanks for this.

  • @Scag1522
    @Scag1522 Рік тому

    I find it hilarious that the EBT runs their steam locomotives regularly but saves their “diesel” for special occasions 😅

    • @ReggieArford
      @ReggieArford 2 місяці тому

      The steam engines are *easier* to fix. (Grandpa was right!)

  • @brianentwistle145
    @brianentwistle145 Рік тому

    That is a cool motorcar. 90+ and still moving. We should be so fortunate

  • @ZergSmasher
    @ZergSmasher Рік тому

    It almost looks like an ordinary passenger coach that someone decided to put a big engine and traction motors inside of. Thanks for showing this, I had no idea this thing even existed before today.

  • @SteamfanScott
    @SteamfanScott Рік тому

    Such a wonderful piece of historic machinery, so amazing that it is still operating all these decades later.
    And thanks to hyce for sharing this with us and looking forward to much more!

  • @WolfInOverdrive-tz4im
    @WolfInOverdrive-tz4im Рік тому

    This is a beautiful railcar. It looks similar to some of the Chicago electric interurban cars run by the Chicago Aurora, and Elgin (CA&E) railroad in the 1940s and 50s.

  • @drewbarker8504
    @drewbarker8504 Рік тому

    What a cool and unique piece of equipment. M-1 honestly looks like a self-propelled combine car with a cab in it.

    • @timothystamm3200
      @timothystamm3200 9 місяців тому +1

      That's kind of what doodlebug were it's just that the compartment was for an engine.

  • @FlakusCorporation
    @FlakusCorporation Рік тому

    This is pretty close to what the McKeen car had for an engine, other than the electric transmission. I’d love it if someday our Caterpillar engine was replaced with a straight-six much like the M-1.

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому

      God the McKeens are so freaking cool. That would be neat. :)

  • @peregrina7701
    @peregrina7701 Рік тому

    M1 is a funky beast. It defies classification but it's very cool!! Trying to process an engine that big that's carbureted.... What sort of capacity for passengers or cargo has the car/motor/engine/weird cool rolling stock got?
    Kudos to EBT for keeping this crazy piece in original form. Thanks for the video!!

  • @TheMetGuy
    @TheMetGuy Рік тому +1

    Awesome video Hyce

  • @abyssminiaturestudios6103
    @abyssminiaturestudios6103 Рік тому

    That's another great Mini Documentary Mark.

  • @kkooiker
    @kkooiker Рік тому +1

    That is cool love it

  • @jamesfieweger8648
    @jamesfieweger8648 Рік тому

    Okay, that was awesome

  • @tylerodonnell-paccione7523
    @tylerodonnell-paccione7523 Рік тому

    That engine really feels like it was designed for aviation but they slapped it in this thing instead lol, 2k cu in, 250 horse, and dual ignition inline 6? Bet I can find more than a few planes from the teens-20s with something really close, that's super cool!

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому

      It's apparently got something to do with a Zeppelin actually

    • @tylerodonnell-paccione7523
      @tylerodonnell-paccione7523 Рік тому

      @@Hyce777 yeah I was just reading that Brill designed it for a Navy airship contract but they didn't work for it so Brill shoved the engines in railcars instead lol

  • @Dan_Gyros
    @Dan_Gyros Рік тому

    That thing is an absolute beaut!

  • @RustyRailsProductions
    @RustyRailsProductions Рік тому +1

    Awsome video m1 is quite unique

  • @JonsGarage89
    @JonsGarage89 Рік тому

    That is VERY cool!

  • @rocketplane8862
    @rocketplane8862 Рік тому

    At 1980 cubic inches (nearly 32.5 liters), that out-displaces even the mighty Merlin V-12 aeroengines from WWII. Only the later Griffons and some of the big radial engines are larger.

  • @Idaho-Cowboy
    @Idaho-Cowboy Рік тому

    So the answer to the trolley problem is to use narrow gauge and then you don't have to run anyone over. These EBT videos are so short I think it's a ploy to convince folks to go visit and see for themselves.

  • @bjrnfrederiksson2505
    @bjrnfrederiksson2505 Рік тому

    I just love, so sad 😅 America is so far away.
    Still wishing one day to cross the pond and whatch the American trains 🐻💪🏻

  • @superbluhedgehog1
    @superbluhedgehog1 Рік тому +1

    That was fast, between announcement and video upload. Interesting to see this.

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому +5

      It's what happens when I forget to make the thumbnail the day before. lol

    • @superbluhedgehog1
      @superbluhedgehog1 Рік тому

      @@Hyce777 Must be the hardest thing to do as a UA-camr: making the thumbnail. Must be fun to share your experiences at the controls of all these interesting pieces of old rail equipment. Love watching all your content. Keep up the amazing work

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому

      @@superbluhedgehog1 I hate making thumbnails. It really is the most challenging piece, and one of the most important. Gotta get people to click on the video....

    • @superbluhedgehog1
      @superbluhedgehog1 Рік тому

      I would offer my services as graphics designer for video thumbnails free of charge...if I had skills as a graphics designer...

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому +1

      @@superbluhedgehog1 I appreciate you mate :)

  • @FuelFire
    @FuelFire Рік тому

    This man just doesn't look the same without the beard.

  • @akaBoG
    @akaBoG Рік тому

    Great video.

  • @darknut9696
    @darknut9696 Рік тому

    We have got a similar loco it's steam version of this type of coach it is called a SRM (Steam rail Motor) the one i can think of was run by the GWR (Great Western Railway) in the 1930's to 1950's there is is only one left No. 93 running at Devon but other Railway Companies had their own SRM's

    • @SirNigelGresley4498
      @SirNigelGresley4498 Рік тому

      No. 93 is based out of Didcot in Oxfordshire, but it goes on a lot of away trips

  • @Militiaman71
    @Militiaman71 Рік тому +1

    Aren't those also called a Doodlebug? I have some in HO scale.

  • @GretchenDawntreader
    @GretchenDawntreader Рік тому

    ventilated maybe, but sitting next to it, that must be fairly loud.

  • @26taker
    @26taker Рік тому

    Awesome video. By the way, Hyce did you see the video about the Great Train Race from Hunter Valley Steamfest 2023?

  • @LemonSpacebirb
    @LemonSpacebirb Рік тому

    We have some of the brill railcars we have in Australia and some are almost identical apart from being broad gauge

  • @blue-raptor4017
    @blue-raptor4017 Рік тому +2

    The car it do be strange, but is it a standard oddity or a narrow oddity?
    Gauge puns :)

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому

      :P

    • @ReggieArford
      @ReggieArford 2 місяці тому

      The M-1 is 3' gauge. The pun is low gauge, indeed.

  • @angryrailfan5711
    @angryrailfan5711 Рік тому

    The odd thing about the engine is it’s a engine out of a zeppelin since brill was contracted to build zeppelin engines for the government . Then that industry imploded and they had a bunch of these straight sixes sitting around so they started using them in these doodlebugs. As for the EBT building it in house. They built it entirely except the engine, generator, trucks, and motors.

    • @ReggieArford
      @ReggieArford 2 місяці тому

      Blimp, not Zeppelin. Blimps are shaped balloons, Zeppelins have rigid frames. The M-1's electrical equipment is from Westinghouse.

    • @angryrailfan5711
      @angryrailfan5711 2 місяці тому

      True that the electrical is Westinghouse, but the engine is a brill built to a design they were going to make for the navy but they lost the contract so they decided to use it in their self propelled rail vehicles

  • @bluescrew3124
    @bluescrew3124 Рік тому

    What a weird vehicle

  • @Radioactive4001
    @Radioactive4001 Рік тому

    It looks like a baggage passenger combine car but the front is just a engine

    • @ReggieArford
      @ReggieArford 2 місяці тому

      Bingo! There's a small engine/generator & cab at the front.

  • @yoc_4386
    @yoc_4386 Рік тому

    Awful lot, at least in form externally to a lot of the electric interurban cars built for Chicago and Milwaukee commuter lines around that time. (By the way you should take a visit to the Illinois railway museum outside of Union Illinois. That place is absolutely gigantic.)

  • @Christian_S1
    @Christian_S1 Рік тому +1

    Is releasing the full M1 cab ride video in the plans?

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому +1

      Possibly for conductors! That'd be fun.

  • @nittygrittygarage5497
    @nittygrittygarage5497 Рік тому

    B is for broadtop

  • @mafarnz
    @mafarnz Рік тому

    So me being me I gotta ask. If you happen to know, did it originally have an air horn when it was first built or was it like a lot of other motorcars of the time equipped with an air whistle and later switched over to an air horn?

  • @seankaiser2505
    @seankaiser2505 Рік тому

    imagine trying to install PTC on this unit

    • @seankaiser2505
      @seankaiser2505 Рік тому

      "it's already got PTC, you're positive the engineer is train controlling!"

  • @itowmyhome797
    @itowmyhome797 Рік тому

    🎉

  • @AtkataffTheAlpha
    @AtkataffTheAlpha Рік тому

    EBT M1 vs C&O M1

  • @west_side_9
    @west_side_9 Рік тому

    M1 is 97 years old

  • @robtippin9111
    @robtippin9111 Рік тому

    😎

  • @randywise5241
    @randywise5241 Рік тому

    Cool. What about the mail section?

    • @ReggieArford
      @ReggieArford 2 місяці тому

      It's incorporated in the center, baggage compartment. They didn't sort US Mail onboard; it was just sacked mail.

  • @PatSeba84
    @PatSeba84 Рік тому

    ive seen those before but an m-32, more modernised.

  • @tootired76
    @tootired76 Рік тому

    Weren't these called doodlebugs?

  • @giuseppearditi7963
    @giuseppearditi7963 Рік тому

    Molto interessante questo video io ho il modello del M 1 in scala Ho n3 con la spiegazione ho potuto vedere il quore del mezzo grazie 👍👏

  • @ericbonanno5214
    @ericbonanno5214 Рік тому

    Well heck, I didn't know that was a 3 1/2 hour drive away. Maybe I'll plan a trip for that.
    I don't know if it was mentioned but I'm curious, is that a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke engine? I'm thinking it's 2 stroke. 🤔🤔

  • @TheSonic10160
    @TheSonic10160 Рік тому

    But will it fit in my Honda?

  • @jesset061084
    @jesset061084 Рік тому

    Am wondering if anyone here has gone to they Illinois railway museum it is amazing place I have gone

  • @foellerd
    @foellerd Рік тому

    Why was a gas engine used, any benefits?

  • @ilovetractors40
    @ilovetractors40 Рік тому +2

    First

  • @Mishn0
    @Mishn0 Рік тому +1

    Please don't refer to something as "most unique". Something is either unique or it's not unique. It's an absolute. Saying "more unique" or "most unique" is a characteristic of poor writing.

    • @Hyce777
      @Hyce777  Рік тому

      UA-cam titles are unfortunately about getting people to click on a video, not about proper writing. I do agree with you though, it's certainly not proper writing.