I think bujinkan works best if you teach it to people who are actually natural fighters. Problem nowadays is people who train and teach are guys, who haven't had a real fight in their life, never been hit in the head. People who are actual fighters are great at bujinkan. I've met a few instructors like this man you are mentioning here, and all of them are completely anonymous. My former sensei was a guy like this, his teacher was Brin Morgan from UK.
To my mind, the best thing you can teach inexperienced fighters is body conditioning , the confidence to take a hit and know you will be there afterwards
I think this is very true. I have no real hands-on fighting experience but did end up training under a teacher that had army and security experience. All his trainings were practical, harsh and to the point, but because I'm not a natural fighter, I feel like I never advanced much or am anywhere near these type of teachers even after 10 years of practice.
It’s a mental thing. If your not training how you fight, your literally doing it wrong. Your instructor needs to push you past your limits every lesson without “breaking” you, you will gain massive confidence and a healthy (sometimes not😄), dose of needed aggression, takes skill from the instructor and these guys are like hens teeth in the martial arts community. Boxing and MMA gyms are where you find these guys, so that’s my recommendation, otherwise you will be very very lucky (not impossible), to be taught what you need. Trust me, you don’t want to find out the hard way. I was lucky, (old school kyokushin) but after some fun nights out, I realised I realised it wouldn’t hurt to get punched in the face a little less😂, so Thai boxing and ju-jitsu, but what gave me the real tools to overcome was Kyokushin (maybe not in its current form). 😂 Train how you fight, otherwise your literally fooling yourself. Osu!
I think that Hatsumi got softer for different reasons: - people thought, it's to hard and they left AND - he got older, thus softer. He takes your fingers now instead of your hand or arm and gives you impulses to make your whole body move We are working hard to make this old way of natural movement our own. But it's very difficult to get teachers or material on this subject. Glad to see we are on the right track :)
@@ASAMIYAGlauco I think he was probably a competent ( not necessarily best as many like to think) up into his 60's but he also used to strike a lot more. Combine that with his Judo knowledge and you had a solid martial artist. But lately, you have young men trying to move like old men. Makes no sense.
Hatsumi is a marital artists but only in judo because if your studying with him that's pretty much all you're doing and he throws in some other stuff to make it look impressive but at the end of the day its just judo.😊
Thank you for sharing this! I'll check out his channel. The teacher I practiced under was similar, tough as nails, long history as security and the army, he would always link training to real life situations, all training was harsh, painful, but realistic. You had to be a special kind of sadist to even go back. Then when I went to train abroad I thought this was the way the Bujinkan is, tough, practical. The teacher abroad asked me to kick him... So I kicked him. The teacher was quite confused and slightly upset that I ACTUALLY kicked him full on. It just made me realize there is Bujinkan... But then there is also Bujinkan if you know what I mean. I've heard similar things from people that practiced under Hatsumi, apparently if you want real practical Bujinkan in Japan you have to go to Ishizuka Sensei instead (I've never been so its just second hand information). I really miss the training though, cancer really put a hard stop to all of this. Now its just making cardgame videos on UA-cam. Either way, thank you for making this video! It means a lot to me :).
I enjoyed this video very much because it reminded me of some law enforcement training I was involved in. The instructors were former US military and one was a Russian named Sunny. Sunny was a former Speznatz and very good at Systema. No matter what you did you couldn't do anything to him. He was like rubber (we nicknamed him Gumby). Even if you made contact with a kick or punch, it was like hitting a pillow; he just wasn't there. It also reminded me of Judo...you push he pulled; you pulled he pushed. And add to the fact that not only did he evade everything, every time he moved he struck you back somehow. You think you know a thing or two until you come across a guy like that.
Antony i find your criticisms sensible. I've fought on the streets my whole life and practiced with martial artists and when I went into the Bujinkan i realized if you arent already a capable, disciplined, and seasoned street fighter at least the Bujinkan might not be for you. If you arent already experienced you won't be able to sort out what does work and what doesn't.
Brilliant brother!!❤ fluidity like you said is aiki, but you have to do the 1-2-3 just to get muscle memory and practice in . Going slow is a lot better in the beginning, but you have to go a wee bit faster and harder. I do agree with you ❤
Love the video, agree with a lot of what is said. We've been training natural movements like that for the last 20+ years. Nothing new for us. George Rodger was my Instructor from Blackburn.
Hatsumi always said that he only teaches principles and ideas. It's up to you to make it work. This is how he taught. It's not for everyone. I'm very fortunate to have had a similar teacher like Denis.
I pretty much went back to the beginning after my experience with bujinkan and learned about namba walking. For a good solid year I would pretty much only practice that until I didn't think about walking in that method. Afterwards my taijutsu and of course weapons got significantly better to the point I was doing these flow drills on instinct. Now it's how me and my wife train, which is actually kinda cool when we're working on grappling because we're able to be intimate at the same time.
I trained in the BBD in Dublin from mid 80s until late 90s, we left the Bujinkan in early 90s as it was fast becoming a moneymaking racket , what we now call a Mc Dojo Have you experience with Brian Mc Carthy, Bo Munthe ,any of the blackbelts from Dublin? heavy focus on DaikenJutsu ,good lads
Good to hear of these lads. Another great one is John Willson of Canada. He was my teacher. Had roots in karate and judo as well as aikido and king fu. He later did his own thing showed den ryu.
I love this video... I've been a big fan of your work... but this video is your best so far. You've eloquently explained what I've been trying to do with the way people practice karate. I think martial arts like karate need to learn how to break past the 'baby steps' as you call it and start learning to flow and be free... similarly to how BJJ is practiced. First they learn how the body moves and how it can be exploited, then practicing with full resistance. Karate could learn so much from that. Brilliant video. Best of luck to you... I have your "Book of the Samurai" book. Excellent work, I will be picking up your newer books in the near future.
Very good points you make, since the debunking of some fake traditional martial arts methods, people allways insist on SPARRING, most of those people actually never spar I guess, YOU CAN NEVER TRAIN HOW YOU FIGHT, not even professional fighters do that (well most of them), most sparring is LIGHT with the ocasional 60-70% but allmost never 100%...the most important thing is learnig the right BIOMECHANICS!
You still have to drill techniques and movements like a real fight, and you still have to regularly spar with some realism and resistance, even if you're not knocking one another in the head. Your criticism doesn't apply to me though, there are videos of me light sparring and rolling on my channel. ;P
@@alittlepuertoricanboy1993 from what you said here you basically say the same things I do...and my statement is not necessarily meant to be csiticism , just an aknowledgement that peoples mentality regarding training methods, has moved to the polar opposite, where before the emergence of MMA most people belived that even fights in movies and WWE were realistic, now everybody insists that everything must be tested in HARD FULL CONTACT sparring or else it does not work...
I've never trained with this guy but I trained exactly how you describe it. Move move move the when the opportunity presents itself you explode. Short quick flowing movements. I stopped training because nobody was teaching this anymore. Now that you've put this out there I'm all excited again! BTW , Denis didn't create this technique he's just 1 of few who understood it and trained it.
Awesome stuff mate. Even the Gracie family says "play" is good for training. Training needs to be fun, you need to enjoy it, otherwise you're just letting another human beat you up. There is value to this type of training. I follow two lines of Takamatsu-den I believe are the best, and I have a 3rd teacher who was under Tanemura, but he is retired from Genbukan. I have three Bujinkan mentors, one follows the Ishizuka line of transmission, the others follow a few lines of transmission, and the other just trains. All of my teachers are good fighters, one was a army veteran and police officer, the other comes from army intelligence, the other martial arts and he use to compete like Nagato use to compete. My teacher who was with Genbukan was a police officer as well. All three of them could deal with most people. I personally believe if we add in the type of physicality of an mma athlete with the mindset of a soldier, Leo, or security professional into the Bujinkan, that person would be deadly. But this is my experience with my teachers, who have experience using the Bujinkan arts in reality, and my experience having to use the Bujinkan arts in my profession (private security contractor). Unfortunately not every student will get this experience.
My sensei, sensei Wayne..was very much like this. He was welsh. One of the best in bujinkan. My personal belief. However it's all a journey. We learn from all. We are all beginners..always
Hi Antony, I liked your search for truth! When I first trained here in Sydney Australia I went to a dojo run by. Gentleman name Wayne Roy who introduced bujinkan in Australia as far as I was informed. His school was called Ninjutsu as taught by senses Wayne Roy. It was not promoted as bujinkan at that time in the 90”s most probably because he had a falling out at some point shorty with bujinkan soke. One important takeaway from his approach to training and teaching traditional waza was henka or variation in the technique delivery. He was changing training for realistic scenarios and his approach was that to be able to manipulate your opponent to do a lock or throw you had to first soften the opponent with a strike from Koto ryu, which is where most of the karate style hand strike and kick techniques come from. But the main takeaway from his lessons was that in order to effectively execute any of the elaborate techniques from the 9 Ryu Ha that was taught within the Bujinkan umbrella, u had to prepare the opponent first with softening strikes and then able to apply other advanced techniques. Wayne Roy did understand at that time that it would not be simple to just take a Japanese battlefield art and be able to just implement it in an urban setting. At the time he trained, it was about the same time that Robert Bussey trained in Japan with him and Steven hayes was advancing through to move on with his own thing. There was some politics which resulted in Wayne either leaving or being expelled out of the bujinkan. I don’t know the full details. But there are many bujinkan students who certainly began their training with Wayne. All of the instructors I mentioned obviously supplemented their training with specialised areas of study such as adding self preservation skills such as wilderness survival, special weapons such as traditional and firearms, as well as stuff from medicinal study of parts similar to the amatsu tatara. My path to martial arts started with ninja fantasy from the movies as a child. As I grew older the search for the truth became more important and in doing so, shedding the black mask and garb, and stopped chasing the belts. I personally think that Soke has has outlined in his writing that self preservation and defence of country is important and his philosophy on the storm caught in the breeze literature that he wrote for a budoka. But easier said then mimicking what is going on now to developing true fighting skills I’d important and in doing so building genuine character and not that of a child in play school, without regard to recourse.
Did you ever train together with Robin Doenicke under Wayne Roy? I think Robin said he started out under Wayne Roy at the beginning. That would have been around then. I would have gone to learn Bujinkan under Wayne Roy as a kid. However, I asked the guy at Gladesville Martial Arts World if it was real and he said "Nah, they're all fake".
@@skipinkoreaable There was a lady by the name of Maureen Jensen running classes at Surry Hills, Sydney. Running around in Black Gi, Mask & Tabi certainly is a fantasy/romance notion which is fake. But as far as Ryu-Ha is concerned. Bujinkan believed it taught (from memory) 9 schools. 4 Ninpo related and the other 5 from samurai Ryu's. As far as tradiional schools are concerned bujinkan has demonstrated some form of documentation which is now floating around, showing its link to origins and lineage from Toshitsugu Takamatsu. So as far as thats concerned it seems true As far as "NINJA" is concerned thats for the Anime & Movies. You can see that that fantasy/romance is dying out as time passes. I even saw a youtube video where the Japanese media was making fun of & ridiculing A spanish teacher running Japanese Bujinkan Classes. So as far as Japanese culture is potrayed, they seem to not take it seriously. While Wayne (depending on version of story) parted ways with Bujinkan. He continued to try and teach aspects of traditional Ryu-Ha in some form of modern perspective. I think the the thing is with some Martial Arts masters is that they continue to hold the Tradional Historical/Mytholigical roots in the background to legitamise the validity of their schools. I have even heard from some Bujinkan instructors now that the Bujinkan expects you to learn all the "Ten-Chi-Jin Ryu no Maki" and then forget them as they reach higher ranks and develop their own henka. I personally believe that what this means is that to make the techniques work you will have to re-engineer it to work for you especially in modern times. There are a lot of grab defences in bujinkan. What I notice these days is that in fights people dont grab anymore, they just punch and kick, perhaps more influenced by MMA i guess, or just instincts.
The most skilled Bujinkan practitioners I've ever met either had previous experience in a "combat sport" like boxing, judo, wrestling, kickboxing, or Kyokushin, or they cross trained in combat sports. It's not just mere opinion neither, you can see it for yourself. Look at people like Nagato-sensei or even Sean Askew and how they move. It's a lot different from how Bujinkaners with no combat sport experience move.
It's noticeable, but unfortunately it's not mentioned too much. I have a Japanese Jujutsu and Karate background and am now with the Bujinkan, trained under a retired Genbukan instructor too. My teachers all come from a sport martial art, or military/ leo background and they have a different feeling and movement when they apply technique. From what I hear Enson Inoue is a Bujinkan practitioner as well, but I should ask him directly I think lol
Nailed it. My teacher was/is like this and because of my own experience in Judo and even kickboxing for a short time, he was able to translate better what he knows. What was translated is a fantastic realistic approach to using the Bujinkan. Sadly. so many live in make believe following made up make believe techniques that are not grounded in reality. how many people can even use any of the many throws that appear in the kata or pull off a basic hip throw? Not many. That's a problem. I also blame the Japanese to an extent. Money started flowing and they were happy to let the standards go. That is glaringly obvious to me and it is sad. Sean Askew is a fantastic example of quality BTW, good call.
@@Polentaccio That's exactly why I tell others interested in the practical side of martial arts to make Takamatsuden as a supplemental system to add onto your fight training. That way, you DO learn a more self defense oriented method while simultaneously training mostly for the aliveness of real fighting.
He looks like a very legit instructor, but as a martial artist of various disciplines (Judo, Kyokushin, Kickboxing, Muay Thai & BJJ) i wonder how he would fare against a well versed fighter. From what i've experienced, a solid lowckick can change someone's approach real quick, let alone a Judo throw or being stuck in full guard etc. Would it work i wonder.
Agree BUT I think in most cases, your average aggressive tough guy out there causing problems is using gross motor skills and not precision fighting techniques. Maybe they have done 6 months at a gym but lack the discipline to really get good. Boxing might be an exception though ( especially in UK) Anytime you get a professional athlete who is young and powerful though? Yeah, that changes a lot of things. As a bujinkan practitioner, you also have to be honest with yourself. Unless you spend hours checking kicks, you are going to eat a few. That's where you need to be confident in other ranges and that will also depend on how you learned and who your learned from. It all comes full circle. Learn the basics well instead of 300 kata.
Everything works as long as it's in a real fighting environment no styles or stances use no stances in addaot to each n every style flow I respect him n his. Style how many fights to death have u been into and actually used any type we have in liife and death situations and I need you too actually fight people that want to take you're life and see what works we did n everything works if used what's needed at the times been there have scars
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The man who provided security for all three LOTR movies Mr.Mike Gent RIP. NZ Kempo, Northern Mantis , William Cheung’s private student , first to introduce Bujinkan to NZ, first to go BJJ with John Will and enter his students into UFC,Vale Tudo as Bujinkan. Fight Times Magazine, Australian fighting arts and NZ fighting arts magazine. Kia Kaha Kia Toa. New Zealand just produces top class athletes and fighters because we are a Maori warrior tradition and isolated from the rest of the world. How many Bujinkan went into the cage and tested ? Yeah NZ was the first and the best. The IrishBujinkan was quality of the same level.
You can't learn taijutsu through books alone. The best way to hone your skills is through real-life fighting + honing your mind. The reason I think DJH is the best TEACHER is because I, his student, am now a ninjizard. I control time & space.
I'm gonna disagree and say the best instructor is Hardee Merritt owner of chapel quest martial arts and the @ninjaeverday you tube channel . He is technically under Hayes so To Shin Do but thats basically same as bunjinkhan imo with lil more spiritual stuff and goofy looking belts in higher ranks . He is also a jiu jitsu black belt under Roy Dean . Real pressure testing sparring etc also focuses on the survivalist training military stuff and focuses on fitness 💪
Those belts in Toshindo are so ridiculous, but I like his approach. Also being a black belt under Roy Dean is legit. If your toshindo fails you, nothing better than to have BJJ in your back pocket.
that is what the bujinkan teaches...as a general rule most of the high level instructors teach this. it is useless to teach that until you understand the static concepts and kata.
@@AntonyCummins Does he know you are talking about him in this way? Do not get me wrong mate, but it might hurt his feelings. He practised with soke hatsumi for many years and I believe he still respects him. Btw, there are other dojos which practise like you described. Especially the balkan dojos are good as far as I can see. It is sad that there are a lot of mcdojos these days. They have teachers with no experience. Soke hatsumi was a regional judo champion and was an instructor in an american military base. Nagato sensei was a kickboxer. Sean Askew used to do kosen judo and he was practising with mma champion enson inoue in the 90's. Enson is also a 4th or 5th dan if I remember correct. He said many times that bujinkan is great if you practise properly with resisting opponents. Hopefully some things will change soon. There are a lot of new rules announced by soke to prevent giving away certificates easily. It is a good step for a better future in my opinion.
So anthony. Your critique of the ninjutsu, is focusing to empty hand methods, wich were clearly non existent before the modern era. Do you know that all around the world at the present existing empty hand fighting methods, were pretty much non existing and non recorded, before the the modern era. Yet they clearly exist. The reasons constitute, constant wars, too few years of stability, lack of practicioners whom at the same time were academics or priests ie not posessing writing skill. Etc. The reasons vary from regions to regions. But this is the problem, when first one cannot speak the language. Two one cannot write or read oneself the language, especially the earlier versions of wich usually reguire comprehencive training at it. Three the lack of understanding how real combat affected the Evolution of fighting arts at the peace times. This leads the vacuum of understanding the psyche or the concepts of the earlier era ppl. Hence getting to truth is getting harder with each step, and truth can be mistaken to be something else extremely easily All empty hand methods, derived from weapon arts. For example, the bunjikans style of stricking is un my mind ,coming from the theory of staff or spear stricking. I am not my self any sort of ninjutsu guy, and thanks to you am seeing them as a load of crap. But there are a lot of different arts that are quite a load of crap, not just ninjutsu. When i saw that your so called debunking, actually were just ,well my naruto or narito (im sorry dont remember) school teach authentic ninjutsu. Why? Bcoz my friend translated this one scripture to me, wich mean that all those other dudes, that spent decades teaching and learning this stuff, did were living a lye. And in the end it all comes to the disagreement about the name. NINJA. Dude I think that at this topic , you can newer keep up even at the heels of men like stephen hayes. if you actually had genuine education, at the correct field. You d would newer made such a massive claims, while at the same time claim to educate ppl at the samurai or ninja skills. You need more. So you understand the name of your documentary, were not only silly, but quite disrespectfull. Bcoz in the end you are at the same bizz that they are. With a difference, that my friend and my scriptute are so nuch better than the rest. Im quite sure your not the first to read them. Wich why Icant fathom that tour critiques substance was simply just , i dont believe edo era or earlier era shinobi men, trained unarmed combat. Brother this is absurd. You arent claiming the ninja didnt actually exist. You are claiming you teach the authentic version. Yet you cry and bitch bcoz the other men didnt appear your documentary. The doc that you named :THE MAN WHO KILLED A NINJA: can u blaim them. And bro you clearly didnt kill the ma or not concept of the thing, bcoz you claim to teach it grow up. Peace. God bless
@@AntonyCummins oh sorry bro, i didnt know you are teaching espionage to your students Also anthony martial art isnt just about tradition. Eventhough it has its role, in terms of function, it rarely matters too much. When ppl focus just on tradition, it usually ends in an situation like most todays kungfu styles in china etc. Resulting them to come just, a mere cultural products,nothing more. Still i agree there is no justification, to any schools telling lores or histories, that doesnt have any rootings in reality. Peace n god bless brother.
Bujinkan are true, if the individual has a passport for the crime does not enter the school, many have already been expelled for shaming the school, its rules and traditions, and being inside the school and shaming them is also expelled, today it is very good that, because they do not want evildoers in this place. We cannot accept thugs in this school or people who want to train to do evil. Congratulations to sensei Hatsumi and his traditions.
I'm not sure what value this "Bujinkan" method of fighting adds to the real world of fighting. I would suggest though, if you're looking at real combat, start Muay Thai, Boxing, and get some solid ground work in like BJJ or wrestling.
Considering that Bjj comes from Judo, and Judo comes from old Japanese Jujutsu (Bujinkan arts as well) it depends on how you train it, and how your teacher teaches it. One of my Bujinkan mentors does teach ground work (Newaza). It works if you train to make it work.
I DO have some previous experience in Bujinkan. I can say that Bujinkan DOES teach some crazy weapons and is good at improvised weaponry. Ukemi is actually pretty solid too. As far as empty hand fighting, yeah, stick to boxing, some kind of kickboxing, or submission wrestling.
I must say, this subject is a little unexpected on this channel. For so much discussion about how unproven Takamatsu lineage is, and how uninterested Antony is in it, there sure seems to be quite a lot of attention given to it. Actually, this makes for interesting discussion, and is what is linked with Antonys work. But this type of thing was basically meant for ancient Japan, ect. Try this type of thing on a Mike Tyson type of individual and see what happens. Talk about a natural fighter. Also say what you want about Hatsumi’s lineage, but with all due respect, Hatsumi is never out of breath like is shown in this video. The only way to prove what is being said in this video is to take this person to Hatsumi and see what you say then. Antony is great, and I support most of his work and efforts. That being said, we need videos like this about Buj instead of just ignoring its massive impact on the perception of these arts to people.
@@AntonyCummins yea, understood, but as I have heard, Hatsumi’s arts specifically are literally designed to not be taxing or cause exhaustion, for endurance is my point.
@@tgold8422 Bro, c'mon, that's some straight BS, and even you know it. I can accept that someone trains Bujinkan because of the weapons and taijutsu for basic self defense, OK, fair point. But when you say some mierda like THAT, that it's "meant for endurance", you're seriously just reaching at this point. It's telling that almost every time someone questions the Bujinkan's efficiency or lineage, there's always every BS answer under the sun instead of an honest "I don't know, maybe someone else knows".
@@alittlepuertoricanboy1993 yes, good point, however, it has been said that you should not have to move fast in combat. And as far as resistance, yes, definitely you would hope someone would be as realistic as possible.
If you're trying to highlight Bartram, there's no need to "bring down" Hatsumi. After all, Bartram studied under Hatsumi. Obviously you're on a learning path. Maybe put more thought and respect before recording.
How is this guy leaving out Robert Bussey? Bussey left Hatsumi in the late 80s when Hatsumi was a beast. You can’t compare Hatsumi now he’s 40 years older. I don’t know who this instructor is that’s just dancing around, but you should check out who the world call the King of Combat.
funny thing is this guy making all these remarks He hasnt train for a day, he dont speak japanese hes been kick out of any martial orgenaisaision hes ever try to enter (before bujinkan) he was laught out of the europian acher org, the IMCF (international medieval combat org) and bought some denso's from an old lady and called himself a master and still people listen to him. it is hillariuos
Do you belive it.... that the fact that you are British like him can make a influence in your choix and claim is the best when is not ?..... I mean how incondicional is your advice ? Whats about Peter King that guy as been working for the interpol long time and he have aplicated the waza on the street vs criminals he transfor and crean the ten chi, Jin by experience with criminal figths..... I dont know, Dont you think, that one shian can be convenius for you and not for me ?? If we drink same tea will have same traste in bouth mounths ??......... and whats about Bernar Bordas ? O Kazem........... I been training with Pedro Martín Alarcon quite same line 3 Dan in karate Shotokan.... and 15 Dan Maiko kaiden and do all in Koshinjutsu and studing of the movement..... like him are many of them
This is ridiculous . Your a man from the West . And now your saying the best ninja is a white man born in the UK . At least do HEMA to be more convincing 🙄
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The best Bunjinkani instructor according to me is Ali Karim. Hands down!!
I think bujinkan works best if you teach it to people who are actually natural fighters. Problem nowadays is people who train and teach are guys, who haven't had a real fight in their life, never been hit in the head. People who are actual fighters are great at bujinkan. I've met a few instructors like this man you are mentioning here, and all of them are completely anonymous. My former sensei was a guy like this, his teacher was Brin Morgan from UK.
To my mind, the best thing you can teach inexperienced fighters is body conditioning , the confidence to take a hit and know you will be there afterwards
I think this is very true. I have no real hands-on fighting experience but did end up training under a teacher that had army and security experience. All his trainings were practical, harsh and to the point, but because I'm not a natural fighter, I feel like I never advanced much or am anywhere near these type of teachers even after 10 years of practice.
How do you know they haven’t fought or been hit? You’re making a sweeping generalization
@@adandyguyinspace5783 , If they are inexperienced, they have not fought or been hit , it is only my opinion of inexperience
It’s a mental thing. If your not training how you fight, your literally doing it wrong. Your instructor needs to push you past your limits every lesson without “breaking” you, you will gain massive confidence and a healthy (sometimes not😄), dose of needed aggression, takes skill from the instructor and these guys are like hens teeth in the martial arts community. Boxing and MMA gyms are where you find these guys, so that’s my recommendation, otherwise you will be very very lucky (not impossible), to be taught what you need. Trust me, you don’t want to find out the hard way. I was lucky, (old school kyokushin) but after some fun nights out, I realised I realised it wouldn’t hurt to get punched in the face a little less😂, so Thai boxing and ju-jitsu, but what gave me the real tools to overcome was Kyokushin (maybe not in its current form). 😂
Train how you fight, otherwise your literally fooling yourself. Osu!
I think that Hatsumi got softer for different reasons:
- people thought, it's to hard and they left AND
- he got older, thus softer. He takes your fingers now instead of your hand or arm and gives you impulses to make your whole body move
We are working hard to make this old way of natural movement our own. But it's very difficult to get teachers or material on this subject. Glad to see we are on the right track :)
The real problem people is just copy Hatsumi move instead learn and study the koburyu moves. He a only "Soke", not a good fighter or a best teacher.
@@ASAMIYAGlauco I think he was probably a competent ( not necessarily best as many like to think) up into his 60's but he also used to strike a lot more. Combine that with his Judo knowledge and you had a solid martial artist. But lately, you have young men trying to move like old men. Makes no sense.
@@Polentaccio Sure, i agree for that. I believe than every student a responsability with yourself evolution and separat the reality and fantasy.
Hatsumi is a marital artists but only in judo because if your studying with him that's pretty much all you're doing and he throws in some other stuff to make it look impressive but at the end of the day its just judo.😊
Thank you for sharing this! I'll check out his channel. The teacher I practiced under was similar, tough as nails, long history as security and the army, he would always link training to real life situations, all training was harsh, painful, but realistic. You had to be a special kind of sadist to even go back. Then when I went to train abroad I thought this was the way the Bujinkan is, tough, practical. The teacher abroad asked me to kick him... So I kicked him. The teacher was quite confused and slightly upset that I ACTUALLY kicked him full on. It just made me realize there is Bujinkan... But then there is also Bujinkan if you know what I mean.
I've heard similar things from people that practiced under Hatsumi, apparently if you want real practical Bujinkan in Japan you have to go to Ishizuka Sensei instead (I've never been so its just second hand information).
I really miss the training though, cancer really put a hard stop to all of this. Now its just making cardgame videos on UA-cam.
Either way, thank you for making this video! It means a lot to me :).
There are people on UA-cam who can throw cards and cut right into watermelons just by throwing their playing cards.
@@skipinkoreaable Indeed, its fun to watch.
As always thank you for the video and information 👍🏻
I enjoyed this video very much because it reminded me of some law enforcement training I was involved in. The instructors were former US military and one was a Russian named Sunny. Sunny was a former Speznatz and very good at Systema. No matter what you did you couldn't do anything to him. He was like rubber (we nicknamed him Gumby). Even if you made contact with a kick or punch, it was like hitting a pillow; he just wasn't there. It also reminded me of Judo...you push he pulled; you pulled he pushed. And add to the fact that not only did he evade everything, every time he moved he struck you back somehow. You think you know a thing or two until you come across a guy like that.
Antony i find your criticisms sensible.
I've fought on the streets my whole life and practiced with martial artists and when I went into the Bujinkan i realized if you arent already a capable, disciplined, and seasoned street fighter at least the Bujinkan might not be for you. If you arent already experienced you won't be able to sort out what does work and what doesn't.
The Bujinkan should never be anyone's first art. That simple. It is shown time and time again.
Brilliant brother!!❤ fluidity like you said is aiki, but you have to do the 1-2-3 just to get muscle memory and practice in . Going slow is a lot better in the beginning, but you have to go a wee bit faster and harder. I do agree with you ❤
Love the video, agree with a lot of what is said. We've been training natural movements like that for the last 20+ years. Nothing new for us.
George Rodger was my Instructor from Blackburn.
Hatsumi always said that he only teaches principles and ideas. It's up to you to make it work. This is how he taught. It's not for everyone. I'm very fortunate to have had a similar teacher like Denis.
I pretty much went back to the beginning after my experience with bujinkan and learned about namba walking. For a good solid year I would pretty much only practice that until I didn't think about walking in that method. Afterwards my taijutsu and of course weapons got significantly better to the point I was doing these flow drills on instinct. Now it's how me and my wife train, which is actually kinda cool when we're working on grappling because we're able to be intimate at the same time.
I trained in the BBD in Dublin from mid 80s until late 90s, we left the Bujinkan in early 90s as it was fast becoming a moneymaking racket , what we now call a Mc Dojo
Have you experience with Brian Mc Carthy, Bo Munthe ,any of the blackbelts from Dublin? heavy focus on DaikenJutsu ,good lads
I would like to train with mccarthy
Mcdojo 😂👍
@@andymax1 wrong person I found the comment mcdojo amusing is all. You'd have to ask the person who left the bujinkan thing.
Good to hear of these lads. Another great one is John Willson of Canada. He was my teacher. Had roots in karate and judo as well as aikido and king fu. He later did his own thing showed den ryu.
Hi Antony, Professor Wally Jay Pinoneer of Small Circle Jujutsu did that as well.
I love this video... I've been a big fan of your work... but this video is your best so far. You've eloquently explained what I've been trying to do with the way people practice karate. I think martial arts like karate need to learn how to break past the 'baby steps' as you call it and start learning to flow and be free... similarly to how BJJ is practiced. First they learn how the body moves and how it can be exploited, then practicing with full resistance. Karate could learn so much from that. Brilliant video. Best of luck to you... I have your "Book of the Samurai" book. Excellent work, I will be picking up your newer books in the near future.
That’s great thank you
Very good points you make, since the debunking of some fake traditional martial arts methods, people allways insist on SPARRING, most of those people actually never spar I guess, YOU CAN NEVER TRAIN HOW YOU FIGHT, not even professional fighters do that (well most of them), most sparring is LIGHT with the ocasional 60-70% but allmost never 100%...the most important thing is learnig the right BIOMECHANICS!
You still have to drill techniques and movements like a real fight, and you still have to regularly spar with some realism and resistance, even if you're not knocking one another in the head.
Your criticism doesn't apply to me though, there are videos of me light sparring and rolling on my channel. ;P
@@alittlepuertoricanboy1993 from what you said here you basically say the same things I do...and my statement is not necessarily meant to be csiticism , just an aknowledgement that peoples mentality regarding training methods, has moved to the polar opposite, where before the emergence of MMA most people belived that even fights in movies and WWE were realistic, now everybody insists that everything must be tested in HARD FULL CONTACT sparring or else it does not work...
@@florintanase9348 Yes, we're in agreement, I'm just adding in, jaja.
I've never trained with this guy but I trained exactly how you describe it. Move move move the when the opportunity presents itself you explode. Short quick flowing movements. I stopped training because nobody was teaching this anymore. Now that you've put this out there I'm all excited again! BTW , Denis didn't create this technique he's just 1 of few who understood it and trained it.
Awesome stuff mate. Even the Gracie family says "play" is good for training. Training needs to be fun, you need to enjoy it, otherwise you're just letting another human beat you up. There is value to this type of training. I follow two lines of Takamatsu-den I believe are the best, and I have a 3rd teacher who was under Tanemura, but he is retired from Genbukan. I have three Bujinkan mentors, one follows the Ishizuka line of transmission, the others follow a few lines of transmission, and the other just trains. All of my teachers are good fighters, one was a army veteran and police officer, the other comes from army intelligence, the other martial arts and he use to compete like Nagato use to compete. My teacher who was with Genbukan was a police officer as well. All three of them could deal with most people. I personally believe if we add in the type of physicality of an mma athlete with the mindset of a soldier, Leo, or security professional into the Bujinkan, that person would be deadly. But this is my experience with my teachers, who have experience using the Bujinkan arts in reality, and my experience having to use the Bujinkan arts in my profession (private security contractor). Unfortunately not every student will get this experience.
I am working on breaking into the private security contractor world due to being ex US military
Dennis is a beast, in a good way. That was a great seminar
Yes you are in the background
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Doron Navon - The First Non-Japanese Bujinkan Shihan
Fascinating video. I enjoyed!
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Excellent info. But the first training clip you were in , you look like an extra tall 12 year old young man. Very nice 👍
My sensei, sensei Wayne..was very much like this. He was welsh. One of the best in bujinkan. My personal belief. However it's all a journey. We learn from all. We are all beginners..always
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Have to say, now that I've finished the 'ol Book of Bushido: It is a fantastic book, absolutely brutal unadulterated truth! Loved it!
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video thanks for sharing
I had a feeling you d say that.
I also had a good deal of respect for Rob Renner
Agreed, he is a true master.
Great material Antony!
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Hi Antony, I liked your search for truth!
When I first trained here in Sydney Australia I went to a dojo run by. Gentleman name Wayne Roy who introduced bujinkan in Australia as far as I was informed. His school was called Ninjutsu as taught by senses Wayne Roy. It was not promoted as bujinkan at that time in the 90”s most probably because he had a falling out at some point shorty with bujinkan soke.
One important takeaway from his approach to training and teaching traditional waza was henka or variation in the technique delivery. He was changing training for realistic scenarios and his approach was that to be able to manipulate your opponent to do a lock or throw you had to first soften the opponent with a strike from Koto ryu, which is where most of the karate style hand strike and kick techniques come from.
But the main takeaway from his lessons was that in order to effectively execute any of the elaborate techniques from the 9 Ryu Ha that was taught within the Bujinkan umbrella, u had to prepare the opponent first with softening strikes and then able to apply other advanced techniques.
Wayne Roy did understand at that time that it would not be simple to just take a Japanese battlefield art and be able to just implement it in an urban setting. At the time he trained, it was about the same time that Robert Bussey trained in Japan with him and Steven hayes was advancing through to move on with his own thing.
There was some politics which resulted in Wayne either leaving or being expelled out of the bujinkan. I don’t know the full details. But there are many bujinkan students who certainly began their training with Wayne.
All of the instructors I mentioned obviously supplemented their training with specialised areas of study such as adding self preservation skills such as wilderness survival, special weapons such as traditional and firearms, as well as stuff from medicinal study of parts similar to the amatsu tatara.
My path to martial arts started with ninja fantasy from the movies as a child. As I grew older the search for the truth became more important and in doing so, shedding the black mask and garb, and stopped chasing the belts.
I personally think that Soke has has outlined in his writing that self preservation and defence of country is important and his philosophy on the storm caught in the breeze literature that he wrote for a budoka. But easier said then mimicking what is going on now to developing true fighting skills I’d important and in doing so building genuine character and not that of a child in play school, without regard to recourse.
Thank you for the post
Did you ever train together with Robin Doenicke under Wayne Roy? I think Robin said he started out under Wayne Roy at the beginning. That would have been around then.
I would have gone to learn Bujinkan under Wayne Roy as a kid. However, I asked the guy at Gladesville Martial Arts World if it was real and he said "Nah, they're all fake".
@@skipinkoreaable There was a lady by the name of Maureen Jensen running classes at Surry Hills, Sydney.
Running around in Black Gi, Mask & Tabi certainly is a fantasy/romance notion which is fake.
But as far as Ryu-Ha is concerned. Bujinkan believed it taught (from memory) 9 schools. 4 Ninpo related and the other 5 from samurai Ryu's.
As far as tradiional schools are concerned bujinkan has demonstrated some form of documentation which is now floating around, showing its link to origins and lineage from Toshitsugu Takamatsu.
So as far as thats concerned it seems true
As far as "NINJA" is concerned thats for the Anime & Movies.
You can see that that fantasy/romance is dying out as time passes.
I even saw a youtube video where the Japanese media was making fun of & ridiculing A spanish teacher running Japanese Bujinkan Classes. So as far as Japanese culture is potrayed, they seem to not take it seriously.
While Wayne (depending on version of story) parted ways with Bujinkan. He continued to try and teach aspects of traditional Ryu-Ha in some form of modern perspective.
I think the the thing is with some Martial Arts masters is that they continue to hold the Tradional Historical/Mytholigical roots in the background to legitamise the validity of their schools.
I have even heard from some Bujinkan instructors now that the Bujinkan expects you to learn all the "Ten-Chi-Jin Ryu no Maki" and then forget them as they reach higher ranks and develop their own henka. I personally believe that what this means is that to make the techniques work you will have to re-engineer it to work for you especially in modern times.
There are a lot of grab defences in bujinkan. What I notice these days is that in fights people dont grab anymore, they just punch and kick, perhaps more influenced by MMA i guess, or just instincts.
@@RajSingh-ni2pd Thank you for this information.
The most skilled Bujinkan practitioners I've ever met either had previous experience in a "combat sport" like boxing, judo, wrestling, kickboxing, or Kyokushin, or they cross trained in combat sports.
It's not just mere opinion neither, you can see it for yourself. Look at people like Nagato-sensei or even Sean Askew and how they move. It's a lot different from how Bujinkaners with no combat sport experience move.
It's noticeable, but unfortunately it's not mentioned too much. I have a Japanese Jujutsu and Karate background and am now with the Bujinkan, trained under a retired Genbukan instructor too. My teachers all come from a sport martial art, or military/ leo background and they have a different feeling and movement when they apply technique. From what I hear Enson Inoue is a Bujinkan practitioner as well, but I should ask him directly I think lol
Nailed it. My teacher was/is like this and because of my own experience in Judo and even kickboxing for a short time, he was able to translate better what he knows. What was translated is a fantastic realistic approach to using the Bujinkan. Sadly. so many live in make believe following made up make believe techniques that are not grounded in reality. how many people can even use any of the many throws that appear in the kata or pull off a basic hip throw? Not many. That's a problem. I also blame the Japanese to an extent. Money started flowing and they were happy to let the standards go. That is glaringly obvious to me and it is sad. Sean Askew is a fantastic example of quality BTW, good call.
@@Polentaccio That's exactly why I tell others interested in the practical side of martial arts to make Takamatsuden as a supplemental system to add onto your fight training. That way, you DO learn a more self defense oriented method while simultaneously training mostly for the aliveness of real fighting.
Buy I have much respect to all you're books and school I AM ONE
He reminds me of Vladmir Vasilev of Russian Systema and Wally Jay of Small Circle Jujitsu.
He looks like a very legit instructor, but as a martial artist of various disciplines (Judo, Kyokushin, Kickboxing, Muay Thai & BJJ) i wonder how he would fare against a well versed fighter. From what i've experienced, a solid lowckick can change someone's approach real quick, let alone a Judo throw or being stuck in full guard etc. Would it work i wonder.
Agree BUT I think in most cases, your average aggressive tough guy out there causing problems is using gross motor skills and not precision fighting techniques. Maybe they have done 6 months at a gym but lack the discipline to really get good. Boxing might be an exception though ( especially in UK) Anytime you get a professional athlete who is young and powerful though? Yeah, that changes a lot of things. As a bujinkan practitioner, you also have to be honest with yourself. Unless you spend hours checking kicks, you are going to eat a few. That's where you need to be confident in other ranges and that will also depend on how you learned and who your learned from. It all comes full circle. Learn the basics well instead of 300 kata.
Have you looked at Sean Askew's work on Ninja History, Anthony?
I’m waiting for him to find any evidence of any kind. So far nothing.
Everything works as long as it's in a real fighting environment no styles or stances use no stances in addaot to each n every style flow I respect him n his. Style how many fights to death have u been into and actually used any type we have in liife and death situations and I need you too actually fight people that want to take you're life and see what works we did n everything works if used what's needed at the times been there have scars
Bertrams methods are right. Its basically aikijutsu. Understanding energy and how to capitalize on it.
Wow sounds like a hard man
Have to agree Dennis as well as Simon Yeo are legit, Simon appears to be influenced by his BJJ training (which I've got into as well as bujinkan).
Have you done anything on Akban?
I’ve tried talking to him that’s all
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The man who provided security for all three LOTR movies Mr.Mike Gent RIP. NZ Kempo, Northern Mantis , William Cheung’s private student , first to introduce Bujinkan to NZ, first to go BJJ with John Will and enter his students into UFC,Vale Tudo as Bujinkan. Fight Times Magazine, Australian fighting arts and NZ fighting arts magazine. Kia Kaha Kia Toa. New Zealand just produces top class athletes and fighters because we are a Maori warrior tradition and isolated from the rest of the world. How many Bujinkan went into the cage and tested ? Yeah NZ was the first and the best. The IrishBujinkan was quality of the same level.
Your link to follow Dennis went nowhere. Didn't work
Ok I will have a look. Try and google him.
What a great video. How about Mo Teague? He seems like a nasty sod as well.
Danny dyer loves big Moe's fist 👊😂🚨👍
lol, he did.
I will look him up
@@AntonyCummins Not Bujinkn but some great modern stuff.
Reminds me a bit of Ryukyu Kempo
Thanks very much. for me the early years were the most interesting. Later it all got too soft and finally a money thing and overdone.
You can't learn taijutsu through books alone. The best way to hone your skills is through real-life fighting + honing your mind. The reason I think DJH is the best TEACHER is because I, his student, am now a ninjizard. I control time & space.
Grandmaster tanemura is a awesome instructer t
that is way i have learn judo
The source of all the material these people teach is who?
I think shito Ryu is fluid and uses sensitivity drills
I don't know about now but Brian McCarthy used to be amazing in the 1990s...
I'm gonna disagree and say the best instructor is Hardee Merritt owner of chapel quest martial arts and the @ninjaeverday you tube channel . He is technically under Hayes so To Shin Do but thats basically same as bunjinkhan imo with lil more spiritual stuff and goofy looking belts in higher ranks . He is also a jiu jitsu black belt under Roy Dean . Real pressure testing sparring etc also focuses on the survivalist training military stuff and focuses on fitness 💪
Those belts in Toshindo are so ridiculous, but I like his approach. Also being a black belt under Roy Dean is legit. If your toshindo fails you, nothing better than to have BJJ in your back pocket.
that is what the bujinkan teaches...as a general rule most of the high level instructors teach this. it is useless to teach that until you understand the static concepts and kata.
Jimmy Page?
Not Hatsumi you say but Active balance and the you go over to his Chanel,,, then the first you see is videos about Hatsumi 😁😁😁
Good one mait!
He of course loves hatsumi. It’s his teacher.
You can spend the time tat you want in the bujinkan if you are is open your vision is incorrect.
I would argue John Willson.
Maybe we doesn’t know the best cause is hidden cause the true art is not to show the way you move...
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The real question is, does mr. bertram say he is better than soke hatsumi?
No he does not
@@AntonyCummins Does he know you are talking about him in this way? Do not get me wrong mate, but it might hurt his feelings. He practised with soke hatsumi for many years and I believe he still respects him.
Btw, there are other dojos which practise like you described. Especially the balkan dojos are good as far as I can see. It is sad that there are a lot of mcdojos these days. They have teachers with no experience. Soke hatsumi was a regional judo champion and was an instructor in an american military base. Nagato sensei was a kickboxer. Sean Askew used to do kosen judo and he was practising with mma champion enson inoue in the 90's. Enson is also a 4th or 5th dan if I remember correct. He said many times that bujinkan is great if you practise properly with resisting opponents.
Hopefully some things will change soon. There are a lot of new rules announced by soke to prevent giving away certificates easily. It is a good step for a better future in my opinion.
@@Tolabay Doesn't undo the damage done and the amount of terrible teachers out there though.
@@Polentaccio I agree.
So anthony. Your critique of the ninjutsu, is focusing to empty hand methods, wich were clearly non existent before the modern era. Do you know that all around the world at the present existing empty hand fighting methods, were pretty much non existing and non recorded, before the the modern era. Yet they clearly exist.
The reasons constitute, constant wars, too few years of stability, lack of practicioners whom at the same time were academics or priests ie not posessing writing skill. Etc. The reasons vary from regions to regions.
But this is the problem, when first one cannot speak the language. Two one cannot write or read oneself the language, especially the earlier versions of wich usually reguire comprehencive training at it. Three the lack of understanding how real combat affected the Evolution of fighting arts at the peace times. This leads the vacuum of understanding the psyche or the concepts of the earlier era ppl. Hence getting to truth is getting harder with each step, and truth can be mistaken to be something else extremely easily
All empty hand methods, derived from weapon arts. For example, the bunjikans style of stricking is un my mind ,coming from the theory of staff or spear stricking.
I am not my self any sort of ninjutsu guy, and thanks to you am seeing them as a load of crap.
But there are a lot of different arts that are quite a load of crap, not just ninjutsu.
When i saw that your so called debunking, actually were just ,well my naruto or narito (im sorry dont remember) school teach authentic ninjutsu. Why? Bcoz my friend translated this one scripture to me, wich mean that all those other dudes, that spent decades teaching and learning this stuff, did were living a lye. And in the end it all comes to the disagreement about the name. NINJA.
Dude I think that at this topic , you can newer keep up even at the heels of men like stephen hayes.
if you actually had genuine education, at the correct field. You d would newer made such a massive claims, while at the same time claim to educate ppl at the samurai or ninja skills. You need more. So you understand the name of your documentary, were not only silly, but quite disrespectfull.
Bcoz in the end you are at the same bizz that they are. With a difference, that my friend and my scriptute are so nuch better than the rest. Im quite sure your not the first to read them. Wich why Icant fathom that tour critiques substance was simply just , i dont believe edo era or earlier era shinobi men, trained unarmed combat.
Brother this is absurd.
You arent claiming the ninja didnt actually exist. You are claiming you teach the authentic version.
Yet you cry and bitch bcoz the other men didnt appear your documentary. The doc that you named :THE MAN WHO KILLED A NINJA: can u blaim them. And bro you clearly didnt kill the ma or not concept of the thing, bcoz you claim to teach it grow up.
Peace. God bless
Empty handed fighting did exist it was called by many names. It was not ninjutsu. That is spying.
@@AntonyCummins oh sorry bro, i didnt know you are teaching espionage to your students
Also anthony martial art isnt just about tradition. Eventhough it has its role, in terms of function, it rarely matters too much. When ppl focus just on tradition, it usually ends in an situation like most todays kungfu styles in china etc. Resulting them to come just, a mere cultural products,nothing more.
Still i agree there is no justification, to any schools telling lores or histories, that doesnt have any rootings in reality.
Peace n god bless brother.
His movement is better than Hatsumi? Lol okay
Very much so
AKBAN!! oh wait he is not Bujinkan is he?
Bujinkan are true, if the individual has a passport for the crime does not enter the school, many have already been expelled for shaming the school, its rules and traditions, and being inside the school and shaming them is also expelled, today it is very good that, because they do not want evildoers in this place. We cannot accept thugs in this school or people who want to train to do evil. Congratulations to sensei Hatsumi and his traditions.
I'm not sure what value this "Bujinkan" method of fighting adds to the real world of fighting. I would suggest though, if you're looking at real combat, start Muay Thai, Boxing, and get some solid ground work in like BJJ or wrestling.
Considering that Bjj comes from Judo, and Judo comes from old Japanese Jujutsu (Bujinkan arts as well) it depends on how you train it, and how your teacher teaches it. One of my Bujinkan mentors does teach ground work (Newaza). It works if you train to make it work.
I DO have some previous experience in Bujinkan. I can say that Bujinkan DOES teach some crazy weapons and is good at improvised weaponry. Ukemi is actually pretty solid too.
As far as empty hand fighting, yeah, stick to boxing, some kind of kickboxing, or submission wrestling.
The best ninjutsu teacher is David Jesse Holt. RIP.
Teacher, not instructor.
👍🏼 biotensegriy!
Hatsumi is THE intructor, no other. Ishizuka sensei is mere close to being a mirror of soke, other than that, no one comes closs to soke
I must say, this subject is a little unexpected on this channel. For so much discussion about how unproven Takamatsu lineage is, and how uninterested Antony is in it, there sure seems to be quite a lot of attention given to it. Actually, this makes for interesting discussion, and is what is linked with Antonys work. But this type of thing was basically meant for ancient Japan, ect. Try this type of thing on a Mike Tyson type of individual and see what happens. Talk about a natural fighter. Also say what you want about Hatsumi’s lineage, but with all due respect, Hatsumi is never out of breath like is shown in this video. The only way to prove what is being said in this video is to take this person to Hatsumi and see what you say then. Antony is great, and I support most of his work and efforts. That being said, we need videos like this about Buj instead of just ignoring its massive impact on the perception of these arts to people.
All fighters get out of breath. Top pros are mackerel after a real fight. No one would ever be just normal
@@AntonyCummins yea, understood, but as I have heard, Hatsumi’s arts specifically are literally designed to not be taxing or cause exhaustion, for endurance is my point.
I mean, when you're moving slow as molasses and your partner ain't even resisting your techniques, you're not very likely to be out of breath.
@@tgold8422 Bro, c'mon, that's some straight BS, and even you know it. I can accept that someone trains Bujinkan because of the weapons and taijutsu for basic self defense, OK, fair point. But when you say some mierda like THAT, that it's "meant for endurance", you're seriously just reaching at this point.
It's telling that almost every time someone questions the Bujinkan's efficiency or lineage, there's always every BS answer under the sun instead of an honest "I don't know, maybe someone else knows".
@@alittlepuertoricanboy1993 yes, good point, however, it has been said that you should not have to move fast in combat. And as far as resistance, yes, definitely you would hope someone would be as realistic as possible.
If you're trying to highlight Bartram, there's no need to "bring down" Hatsumi. After all, Bartram studied under Hatsumi. Obviously you're on a learning path. Maybe put more thought and respect before recording.
Maybe watch the video again with an open mind
@@AntonyCummins Thumbnails and opening statements are important.
oi m8 this bri'ish block is really rof innit, briish bullshido innit?
Don't disrespect hatsumi you would not even know if not for him and shidoshi sir Stephen k Hayes so fight fight fight I keep on keeping on
How is this guy leaving out Robert Bussey? Bussey left Hatsumi in the late 80s when Hatsumi was a beast. You can’t compare Hatsumi now he’s 40 years older. I don’t know who this instructor is that’s just dancing around, but you should check out who the world call the King of Combat.
funny thing is this guy making all these remarks He hasnt train for a day, he dont speak japanese hes been kick out of any martial orgenaisaision hes ever try to enter (before bujinkan) he was laught out of the europian acher org, the IMCF (international medieval combat org) and bought some denso's from an old lady and called himself a master and still people listen to him. it is hillariuos
Except for the images which disprove that in this very video
You didn't train under Hatsumi, come one... be honest Antony, you just went to some classes...
fool
Do you belive it.... that the fact that you are British like him can make a influence in your choix and claim is the best when is not ?..... I mean how incondicional is your advice ?
Whats about Peter King that guy as been working for the interpol long time and he have aplicated the waza on the street vs criminals he transfor and crean the ten chi, Jin by experience with criminal figths..... I dont know,
Dont you think, that one shian can be convenius for you and not for me ?? If we drink same tea will have same traste in bouth mounths ??......... and whats about Bernar Bordas ? O Kazem...........
I been training with Pedro Martín Alarcon quite same line 3 Dan in karate Shotokan.... and 15 Dan Maiko kaiden and do all in Koshinjutsu and studing of the movement..... like him are many of them
This is ridiculous . Your a man from the West . And now your saying the best ninja is a white man born in the UK . At least do HEMA to be more convincing 🙄
Can't be that good now.... his hips are f..ked !!!
Dr hatsumis knife defence is crap! This Guy cant be serious by his bullshido?
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