DK Tsuchiya drives Modern Drift Car - What's the difference in modern and old drifting?
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- Опубліковано 22 тра 2024
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Translator : Suzune Onuma - 大沼 すず音
This time DK Keiichi Tsuchiya drives NOB Taniguchi's 180SX drifting machine called "Gete-chan". "Gete" is short for "Gete-mono" and it refers to bizarre.
Also, NOB Taniguchi talks about the difference between modern and old style of drifting, which has a big deal to machine making.
Contents of this video
0:00 - Intro
0:34 - NOB Taniguchi's 180SX machine making
8:58 - NOB Taniguchi's drifting
13:39 - DK Tsuchiya learned NOB's way of drifting
16:58 - DK Tsuchiya takes a ride on 180SX
20:58 - DK Tsuchiya's impressions, Ending
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DK Keiichi Tsuchiya - / driftkingtelevision
NOB Taniguchi - / @nob2020
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It's crazy how fast DK adapts. At his age he's still able to get into a car that's built different from everything he's used too and in a couple of laps he's starting to find the sweet spot and push. And his reflexes are still 100%. One of the greatest racing drivers of all time and one of the most entertaining motoring presenters of all time.
He kept grabbing the handbrake because it was in the way of both the wheel and shifter!
It impressed me he went out solo.
That's the great thing about drifting. It's not as intense on the body so you can do it for longer. As long as you know the basics, you can work your way into the car.
@@wzero07 at his age it is impressive, he's 66 idk how many other 66 year olds can do what he does as well as he does it.
@@wzero07 Riding a bike has nothing to do with learning the inertia of a 400hp drift car. "I put Mentos in a Soda once and it shot off so it cant be that different to launching a NASA shuttle". Thats a similarly useless comparison.
Taniguchi: "I was worried my driving wouldnt be good enough"
Also Taniguchi: *literally won D1 GP 2001*
Keiichi is an absolute living god to these younger Japanese drivers, they'll always be overly humble in the presence of DK himself
he has respect for the og drift king
tsuchiya started the drifting trend, and always the judge of drifting competitions since the late 80s tho
reminds me of that tragedy.
@@tanyguch_kun1330well.. in reality nino farina started going sideways in grand prix racing in the 50s
you can see the clear difference of driving style between the two. Tsuchiya is way more traditional, while NOB's smooth style is awesome! its like seeing different eras of drifting altogether in this film. Tsuchiya also respects the car alot by not pushing it too much, you can see NOB is alot more comfortable with the car (well afterall its his setup and his car 😀
Worded it perfectly!!
Tsuchiya is far more good on grip or track battle not realy on drifting...
100%. DK gets more and more comfortable with the car but they both manage to keep it under the rev limiter.
@@vinuyajohnnoahs8762 yeah because unlike taniguchi, he didn't really participate much or have any special drift trainings for competition. He popularised and ran the sport that's all.
DK has a more respectful style where its more like "Hey, rear end, you can step out if you want" where as a more modern style is more "It will now step out" generally followed by scary big angle and smoke. Both are cool, I like DKs more for the grace, and NOBs for the sheer steeze of it all.
Tsuchiya is such a gent, being so intrigued and respectful of a modern day drift set up. You can tell his style doesn’t suit such a set up, I guess he perfected his technique with virtually standard road cars where he purposely uses/creates momentum through the steering and throttle. NOB’s car looks like it will slide with very little effort so initially I thought Tsuchiya was over driving it but then he started to get a feel for it’s characteristic. Great to see that despite his preference to something more old school he still stepped out the car beaming and gave his respect to NOB and his team who built the car.
I love the respect he gives NOB because it is a different era of drifting and neither is easy, as i'm 38 I'm also stuck in the showa era of drifting and also hate the useage of handbrake to initiate drifts, however respect is still due as it is still difficult to do without oversteering and spinning the car. I still love seeing Tsuchiya's thoughts , as the oldskool method and I to only use the handbrake as a last resort to avoid frontal damage lol its refreshing to hear D.K's preferences as it makes me feel not alone haha as there are still some of us out there. Nobuteru makes it look easy , and I like that he made no mistakes when showing what he can do in front of the Lengend :)
@@jeizero "handbrake is for boys, momentum is for men" :D ... just joking, i simply prefer momentum drift too... In a way it looks more subtle and stylish... to me modern drift with wide angle steering is becoming more and more "over the top meaningless" even if i appreciate their skill. 90's degree steering wheel and handbrake make the drift things a "clearing the corner by power over"... The real skill involve shifting weight with "normal angle steering". What's the point of using a steering that looks like a shopping kart? Anyway if reverse entry keel people excited.... Maybe i'm too nostalgic or maybe i feel more like drifting that born in the old era due to necessity... hard narrow tyres, low grip on track...
@@TakumiFujiwara80 yeah agree with that.. prefer momentum drift, no angle kit, low power machine under 500hp more funny imo.
That's an interesting observation - the difference in trying to drift modern drift cars, that are built almost from the grou d up to exist sideways...compared with forcing a low-power road car, built for daily use, to essentially do the reverse of what it's supposed to do and break traction on a regular basis. The emphasis in the latter case is, as you say, much more on using weight shifting to initiate drifts, whereas with modern, highly drift tuned, high power drift cars initiating a drift really is as simple as just powering-over in a lot of cases, using the ridiculous power of these cars to drift from almost any position. The most you really need in term of weight shifting is a small little left-right flick. Whereas the older cars...they're so low power and so unwilling to drift that you need to think about position and angle a lot more before initiating.
I love how Tsuchiya almost never grabs the hand brake, and when he did it was because he was reaching for the shifter.
@@wzero07 dude, speak English 😂🤷🏼♂️
@@bigdfitness5020 it is English
So cool to see Nob on here too!
I always preferred the "Showa style" myself, there's just that feeling of balancing it on the very edge that you don't get with new drift setups.
Also, modern drifters always say Tsuchiya's drifting is outdated, but forget that he doesnt have a car set up to do modern drifting.
Just look at this, his first try at the modern style and he didn't spin out even ONCE, it's scary how fast Tsuchiya started to adapt to a different style of drifting, most others would struggle!
Tsuchiya is and remains Dorikin!
To be fair it is very hard to spin out when you have a crazy angle kit.
@@TheBulitt not really lol
the man maybe pulled the side brakes twice too through all those laps
@@TijiSan i though he never hit it, sometime just on heat of the moment because it's on the way to the gear lever... About that it's odd... Gear lever should be near and only after that the handbrake, in my humble opinion. But maybe shifting is not so important with a wide torque engine...
@@TakumiFujiwara80 I’m no drifter but I have heard people prefer the hand brake before the shift. I’d say that’s because yeah with a tuned car you’d probably be using the hand brake more than shifting. But it also depends on the driver too for sure
My first actual drift car video to watch and wow two things;
1. Japanese culture respect for pioneers and older generation is so humbling and powerful
2. The finesse and style of both eras is respectful and progressive ‘speed skater - figure skater’
I was blessed to witness this video.
Thank you, thank you. Love from Gold Coast, Australia.
Tsuchiya is definitely the Figure Skater here!! His drift technique is legitimately artwork.
Thank you for making this content avalible and subtitled for overseas viewers! Very interesting comparation between "oldschool" and modern drifting styles, and good to see Tsuchiya-san trying NOB´s car. Also, gotta love how chill the guys are in this videos compared to the HV stuff we usually see.
Need Nobu on the channel more. It's also awesome to see him so giddy watching Tsuchiya drive his car. Even though they worked together for so many years he still gives him the utmost respect and idolism.
Really fun to see the Drift King learning the "new drift" style! "old school" style is way harder than just burning tires all the way, but he didn't have the muscle memory yet :)
Btw, please keep this going guys, you still inspire tons of people around the world, myself included ofc!
even a legend like him still interested to learn from the youngins. humble. thats how you recognize a true legend.
Nob is no yungin haha
@@PinkuStyle retrospectively
@@HavingCrumpets yeaup
A lot of people were recently asking for DK in a modern drift car. Thank you for this!
Thanks!
I know Dori Dori is more known to be the "drift king" like when you say Tsuchiya, everyone instantly thinks "oh yeah DK" but i can't help but love him for his circuit and toge driving. Seeing him drift doesn't really make him stand out as much to see him in a gutted 86 or boosted s2k just smashing through apexes and setting awesome fucking lap times ! See the way he throws cars around in the corners and carry speed all the way through and when he looses traction and oversteers he's able to adapt and instantly counter steer mid corner and be right back on the throttle
_the charisma this two has no words to explain. thank you for this episode._
DK is a living relic and a legend amongst us and i am extremely privileged to be witnessing him while he is still here.
So much media was inspired by him he'll still be alive in them far longer then his body
So is NOB at this point
Everybody talks about tsuchiya but nobody talks about takahashi
12:52 I can't help but smile ear to ear. DK looks like he's 7 years old going on his first drift ride! Pure joy 🏁😄
Dude yeah I legit teared up from smiling from his excitement 😭😂
We need more of your videos, we love you from all over the world! Greetings from Italy and keep up with this good work! 😍
It's stock😅
So true, we love his videos
He was picking up how to drive the car really quick. Give him a couple of hours and he got this style down.
I feel like every driver tends to have a different upbringing with their driving styles, like someone who'd be able to drive this like NOB imo would be older D1 and/or current drifters who are active. Not saying Tsuchiya can't drive it, but he's more used to a style where he's very..idk cautious? Since he's still used to Touge-style driving? Guys like Ueo, Koguchi, Kazama, Orido, and so on could drift this with NOB's flow.
@@TakumiFuji01 by Tsuchiya being cautious we can see his lightning steering work!
@@theholysmite9935 Wouldn’t say lightning fast but it’s more so how sudden he reacts because its like a “nervous-like” style. Someone who has more of a aggressive approach IMO is what I would deemed as “lighting fast”.
Perfect example
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@@TakumiFuji01 @Tyra Gney hmm i see, it makes sense. I think DK is not used to the front camber setup in todays drifts cars i feel like or just that is not used to Taniguchi's car. I just thought it was like lightning steering work because ive seen how early AE86 D1GP Drivers like Ueo or Hibino Tetsuya steer
@@TakumiFuji01 For sure. He did seem to enjoy the experience both being driven and trying out the car, though. Once in a while it's fun to try stuff.
Yessss, I always wanted to see DK drive newer drift carsss!!
lol i love how DK was moving his feet when he wasnt even driving. looking like he would heel/toe when the car was about to go into the corner like he was pretending to drive lol
Wait, i thought we all do that lmao
@@renaultracer3739 lol true, i find i do that watching alot of drift videos.
At @14:30, just imagine NOB’s feeling in that moment: Your childhood idol telling you that you’re a superb driver and even surprised him with your car control! That’s the ultimate compliment for any true car guy, and I think I would genuinely be close to tears if my favourite driver (the late Senna) had said the same thing!
I'm feeling all of NOB's excitement when DK drives his car. I would be ecstatic to see the legend himself behind the wheel of one of mine!
I love Tsuchiya's low HP style of drift barely using the hand break and just whipping the into and initiations, think I will apply his style to my drifting, great video :)
yeah his style is all about inertia
@@detectivepayne3773 Yeah exactly. That's why I love watching youtube channels that drift low power cars like stock motor BMWs and Volvos.
@@Remu- But this ain't no volvo
@@aftrnoon_ac Who said it was?
still prefer modern big angle drifting
really great to see these two discuss the driving styles and how they respect each other's drivig techniques.
I love his easy they make the driving look. Completely relaxed and butter smooth. No hand over hand. Like a fast paced Sunday drive almost.
It was great watching Nob and DK driving, thank you for the such a good content! I also liked the explanation between "old" and "new" style of drifting. I think they're both great in their own way.
So heartfelt seeing 2 legends in the same car, respecting and admiring each other. Almost teared.
i love this video man. not often do we see dk-san this genuinely impressed by cars and/or drivers, but nob-san really showed him how the "young guns" do it these days, both in driving and car setup! :) the respect these legends have for each other is so admirable and heartwarming. thank you carprime!
Wow it’s like night and day seeing both drivers style. I haven’t seen drift king struggle much but it’s interesting seeing him compensate. I love this video and the respect they have for each other.
Despite struggling, DK had so much fun
That massive steering angle, so many turns lock to lock. Combined with so much speed
You can see how crazy dk is and how he drives, he didn’t use as much if any hand break while drifting and used tight flicks to get it angled, DK still adapting is just amazing to see.
Watching Tsuchiya was like going back in time to the Drift Bible, cool cool stuff 👍🏼 nice training car Nob, showing that power isn't necessary for great drifting
The episodes concept of "you're never too old to learn how to have fun in a new way" warms my heart.
You never ever see anyone ride with another driver, so this makes me feel so much joy especially because the dk is clearly enjoying himself
Happy to see DK and Taniguchi appreciate each other.DK still can drift at this age.Truly legend🔥🔥
As an American, im baffled by how good the Japanese body shops are. The paint, the welds, all the custom work is such high quality craftsmanship.
"I'm sure they will reach 90 degrees soon"
Daigo Saito, watching with his 100 degrees kit : 👁👄👁
Awesome to have Taniguchi & Tsuchiya offering both of their perspectives on the differing styles. Amazing content as always!
I'd love to see Tsuchiya have an episode with Yasuyuki Kazama of Rodextyle!
While watching these two drive was (obviously) absolutely amazing, my favorite part of this clip was just watching them talk about their different drifting methods and style. Unreal respect for both!
The figure skating vs speed skating analogy is spot on. And you can see the speed skating roots in DK's driving style.
I love how effortlessly Tsuchiya always flows and adapts to the moment. Not just in cars but with life, he is such a natural. Confident yet humble. True legend and a true role model of a man.
Thanks for the upload, thank you for the subtitles! Great video!
It's incredible what DK helped to inspire. And now driving in these new machines there's gotta be some immense feeling of satisfaction, of completion. Thank you for this.
absolutely awesome video! the interior audio was great too. loved hearing the car so well
I love the ice skating analogy! I couldn't figure out WHAT the two methods had become really until thought of it that way.
19:42 I really liked the 2 cameras here where the main camera shows the inside, and there is a picture-in-picture view of an outside camera showing the driving
Very cool hope you do more of those.
👍
Thank you for uploading these videos with translation
These two men had profound influence on me. Completely different styles and yet such pure shared passion.
The mutual respect levels on these two are super high, class act always from Dori-kin and Nob! 💯
It was very refreshing to listen to Tsuchiya talk about the difference between the eras. I can only imagine how it feels for him.
The amount of customization that goes into "any" modern day drift car is pretty insane compared to how few mods were usually applied in the earlier days when it was mostly to increase the angle by several degrees while still retaining the rest of the parts mostly stock.
Having that much angle felt clearly weird for Tsuchiya when he was controlling the car on reflexes and was oversteering it in those slower corners.
7:42 is the best way to describe the difference between the drift style of old compared to the current style. I enjoy both forms of drifting; however, I take the knowledge and mentality of the old and blend it with the new.
Awesome video and production. Keep it up! 2 of my favorite drivers.
Thanks so much. plz share the video to your friends and on SNS.
I just want ot say that the camera work is amazing. props to the person/people who filmed
Wow Great video! Thank you for making this with subtitles!!
been a fan since the original Best Motoring International videos. Idk how many time I've watched DKs Drift Bible. Thx for keeping the legacy going and showing an old dog new tricks! Respect ✊💪🙏
This is such an awesome episode! Thank you 😊
This was a lot of fun to watch. My first introduction to drifting was old D1 videos, and Tsuchiya's Drift Bible, the old school way. It has been very interesting to see where modern drifting has gone with extreme angle and the new driving and car-building style. I often wondered how an original style driver like Tsuchiya would adapt to a modern car. A lot of drivers from the era I grew up with have retired from professional drifting, or do mostly grip again, but I like that Taniguchi is staying up to date and continuing to share his impressions and progress.
Yay I've been waiting for this
DK always impresses! What a master talent!
I love DK's huge smile behind his helmet throughout Nobu's run. Two legends
Dude is pure legend so glad I’ve been able to watch him my whole life since the early 99/98 era I started watching these type of videos learned so much from the man all I can say is he’s still the best made the spot what it is
Always wanted to see DK drift new era drift car 🔥🔥🔥
this video was awesome specially see dk in it , always like watching these type of videos , wish america had tracks so nice and clean like this
DK Tsuchiya does real drifting… no brake handle! Awesome DK! 👍👏
Such genuine people.much respect and love from Australia
The respect NOB is showing by opening the car was wholesome. You can clearly see he sees Tsuchiya as a kind of master.
Even the small deviation in the comment by saying hes driving in his car! (though with different setup hes used to) Also very nice and humble expression about being happy to get to have a feedback from such a legend.
Grew up watching both of these OGs since the Option motoring days, love the content.
Respect. Enthusiasm. Prowess. These are the attributes of the drivers I find most enthralling. The level of respect that these two show for each other is a breath of fresh air.
Seeing Keiichi giggle like a child with the high pitch voice and all when he came back from driving the 180 was so heartwarming !
How have I never found the English Channel before. I’ve been watching the Japanese stuff with no subtitles and I still enjoy it
thank you for the subtitles!
Watching him drive the car I can tell that he's talking to it the entire time figuring out what it wants. Truly mesmerizing when he drifts
Really enjoying this channel. Subbed & liked👍🏻thank you for the subtitles, along with the great content! 🇯🇵🇺🇸
Taniguchi's analogy of comparing the two styles to Speed Skating vs Figure Skating is spot on.
welp he's been drifting since 1990 so he can relate to different eras of drifting
i truly appreciate that this legend is still providing fans with entertainment by doing what he loves to do.
I love it, i also noticed Keichi did not put his helmet on the car untill after the owner did. He shows respect for the mans car. True gentleman. Excellent work.
DK's drifts are always so beautiful, but then again we call him DK for a reason.
I would love to meet KT he seems so chill, so awesome to see the vast differences from old to new style of drift. I learned to drift FWD first and later discovered KT and realised it was called drifting, guess I'm old but still love to tear up on the sim.
Tsuchiya sensai barely touches the hand brake. it is so joyful to see them driving.
Great video as always 👍🏻
It’s really interesting seeing the differences in techniques here
You can tell DK’s race pedigree kicks in and he very rarely lets the car self steer, even if it’s somewhat of a less optimal technique for drift, it’s still extremely impressive he is that precise on his steering work, also he seems to use a lot more load transfer than acceleration technique, really good to see these two run together
what impressed me the most is how very very very little DK used the hand break compared to like 99% of other videos iv seen from other drifters
Had goosebumps watching them embracing the modern era setups. 7:33 both of them sharing their differences than comparison, able to witness their level passion & professionalism. 22:30 NOB nailed it with his impressive gesture explanation. Like u don't need to understand japanese by looking at his gestures. GOATs to both of them.
While everyone loves the drivers on the show which is normal but I would like to extend my gratitude and thanks carprime to have the English translation for those who can't understand Japanese.
Kudos to the whole team👍
DK almost exclusively used inertial drift/Scandinavian flicks to initiate drifts rather than handbrake drifting, so beautiful really. Master of technique
Last time DK drove Nob‘s drift car he crashed into a ditch lol
That was in 2002 with the HKS car during a Doriten shoot. Tsuchiya called out their fault in the episode because they were using wide tires up front (255 18"s front and 265 18"s rear)
Its very valuable to watch at 17:00 as Tsuchiya drives the 180sx with the "oldschool" technique, seeing how completely different the world of driving underpowered rigs is vs cars with significant torque and steering mods. DK is very conservative and uses weight transfer to initiate drifts instead of relying on OP levels of grip and torque to do the driving for him. The end result is a nice clean slide however it lacks the signature sound and smoke that we today associate with drifting. Personally I prefer this outdated version of drifting because it requires more skills and looks so damn smooth as if the car was on figure skates.
Yeah that's how you know he could drift the car straight out of the factory
I agree, the "new" drift, is like 800hp, e-brake, send it, done, literally, 0 skill, only "procedure" driving
Extremely interesting and entertaining. Keep it up for us all over the World !!!
I personally still love the "showa" style. Seeing cars floor it on a straight and whip the rear into a corner was always just so exciting to see. Imagine the adrenaline you must get from that. Thus new more western style is cool but to me it's not as exciting.
Same i'm not a fan of the backwards entry. It was cool at first but I like the high speed balls to the wall old school drifting.
imagine standing beside this LEGEND OF GRANDFATHER OF DRIFTING and talking about cars, that must be an amazing feeling
What a great episode!
respect to both drivers. great content.
Great episode.. Mutual respect amongst generational professionals..
Love this video, both of them are great people, love how they respect each other👍👍
awesome! thank you for sharing!
Amazing video. Very useful
What a time to be alive to see these 2 legends do what they were brought on this earth to do, and to see dk in the passenger seat is weird lol
お二人が楽しそうに乗ってるのを見るのがいっちゃん楽しいです笑
This is amazing thank you for making English subs
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