Single pilot operations wouldn't happen without aircraft to aircraft connectivity, hyperconnectivity, and highly automated ATM, which would make the first situation highly unlikely to happen.
Since none of those things are available currently, and would require that all of the other aircraft in the sky would have to be upgraded as well, this won’t be true for decades.
That is EXACTLY why you need TWO pilots. In fact, it is ONE of the hundreds of reasons you need two pilots! So essentially you answered your own question! If a pilot on an airliner becomes incapacitated, the other pilot (First Officer or Captain), will seamlessly take over and fly the aircraft and land at the nearest suitable airport! If I interpreted your question incorrectly and you were referring to a small plane that is certified for single pilot operations, then the plane just crashes eventually. As simple as that! Unless there is a passenger on board with some flying abilities, who can be instructed to make a landing, where you might have a chance of survival.
1982 I was a young Steward with SWISSAIR. Once while I was admiring all the switches and dials in the DC-9-32 cockpit and asking the co-pilot how the tasks between him and the captain were distributed, he jokingly told me that automation was making such progress that "in 20 years from now, you would only find a co-pilot and a monkey in the cockpit." At my question why so, he explained that the monkey would be there to make sure the co-pilot did not touch anything...his job being to feed the monkey.
If you ask from a university dropout heading a corporation, he'd say even a single pilot is not necessary. Gone are the days of competent finest university graduate engineers to head companies.
Wouldn't fly with one pilot. Hopfuly it doesn't happen. Everyone needs to start using flight simulator, just in case the worst were to happen and ATC need to provide instruction to land the aircraft.
Sophisticated aircraft can be flown single pilot. Fighter aircraft demonstrate this. This is a very bad idea for Airliners. Having done both I would not put my family on a single pilot Airliner. If this gets approved it will be a political decision not a safety decision.
Do you remember that we used to have two pilots, a flight engineer and a navigator? Then we eliminated the navigator with automation. Then we eliminated the flight engineer with automation. And now we have two pilots left. And then one? And then Autonomous Commercial Aircrafts with 300+ souls onboard? Is Ryan Air behind EASA? Just ask yourself why don't we have flying cars (with one driver) yet?
@@ronniewoodinsteadofmt2615 Not my original idea. Lead in joke from an article in a late 1980s hobby electronics magazine talking about the latest and future aircraft technology of the time, like GPS.
@@haweater1555 Ah - ha . Tremendous honesty. Two things . 1) If you ever decide to run for public office I’d vote for you and donate to campaign. 2) Your ability to remember and pull that out of your memory Rolodex is still remarkable. Appreciate it Brah .!! Later
Based on factual information (review of CVR & FDR), the human pilots in the cockpit are definitely the weakest link. Review Air France FLT447. What makes aviation safe is excellent design and maintenance of aircraft systems.
Just watch any air disasters video where they handle a close call. Would any of those people have survived if there weren't at least 2 pilots? Very likely not.
I'm not sure how this insanity has been even considered. As stated, automation will never replace the two pilots upfront. Technology has reduced the cockpit crew member from 4, 3, 2, and now they think they can do with one? Keep dreaming. Even a well trained pilot has a hard time flying a airline simulator by him/herself, and that's in a controller environment. Profits for safety will never fly.
Especially in long haul flights, its obvious that a Pilot will have to go the toilet. Who will take care of business at this moment ? I can understand that the aircraft industry may have interest in this matter to sell airplanes to those unscrupulous airlines, but a Regulatory agency like EASA approve this and spend a lot of money ???? This is unacceptable !!!
Do you remember? These are the same arguments like when the flight technician was no longer necessary. It's the fearmongering of losers trying to avoid the unavoidable.
Technically we do not lawyers or doctors anymore. We can automate all of those positions with near 100% accuracy. Better hope you’re all the above. Little loser.
As a pilot I would have no problem flying commercially with a single pilot in the future. Technology is improving to the point that automation is taking most of the work load off the pilots. A well trained pilot with advanced technology should be able to safely fly a plane. Pilots are going to fight this for many reasons but primarily for job preservation.
What WILL happen is single pilot onboard with 2-3 ground pilots ready to act during critical phases of flight. If all else fails, an autoland button will be avail to land the aircraft at nearest - Cirrus jets already have this available and it will be coming to civilian airlines in our lifetime.
Very comprehensive message. So many things can go wrong in a single pilot setup that you can rest assured it will.
I wouldn't fly on an aircraft with one pilot. Captain, FO and Engineer would be a great setup in my view.
Well FEs are almost obsolite. We have ECAM & EICAS with their synoptics..
Yes you would ….
Single pilot operations wouldn't happen without aircraft to aircraft connectivity, hyperconnectivity, and highly automated ATM, which would make the first situation highly unlikely to happen.
Since none of those things are available currently, and would require that all of the other aircraft in the sky would have to be upgraded as well, this won’t be true for decades.
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Which is why another crew member has to be on the flight deck if one of the pilots needs to leave
Okay…so what happens if the commercial single pilot becomes incapacitated while flying? Just curious.
That is EXACTLY why you need TWO pilots. In fact, it is ONE of the hundreds of reasons you need two pilots!
So essentially you answered your own question! If a pilot on an airliner becomes incapacitated, the other pilot (First Officer or Captain), will seamlessly take over and fly the aircraft and land at the nearest suitable airport!
If I interpreted your question incorrectly and you were referring to a small plane that is certified for single pilot operations, then the plane just crashes eventually. As simple as that!
Unless there is a passenger on board with some flying abilities, who can be instructed to make a landing, where you might have a chance of survival.
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Thank you very much for your thorough response . Yes, you did indeed interpret my question correctly.
@@sheilasembly-crum8447 You bet! I love to share my love of aviation with one and all! 😊
Just go down the isle and ask the person in 16A .
In a puddle jumper hope the passenger up front plays Flight Simulator
1982 I was a young Steward with SWISSAIR. Once while I was admiring all the switches and dials in the DC-9-32 cockpit and asking the co-pilot how the tasks between him and the captain were distributed, he jokingly told me that automation was making such progress that "in 20 years from now, you would only find a co-pilot and a monkey in the cockpit." At my question why so, he explained that the monkey would be there to make sure the co-pilot did not touch anything...his job being to feed the monkey.
If you ask from a university dropout heading a corporation, he'd say even a single pilot is not necessary. Gone are the days of competent finest university graduate engineers to head companies.
Wouldn't fly with one pilot. Hopfuly it doesn't happen. Everyone needs to start using flight simulator, just in case the worst were to happen and ATC need to provide instruction to land the aircraft.
I'm a passenger and I absolutely agree. I'd gladly pay more on my ticket to cover the FO's salary.
but why two pilots?
Sophisticated aircraft can be flown single pilot. Fighter aircraft demonstrate this.
This is a very bad idea for Airliners.
Having done both I would not put my family on a single pilot Airliner.
If this gets approved it will be a political decision not a safety decision.
Fighters and airlines are two completely different things
Do you remember that we used to have two pilots, a flight engineer and a navigator? Then we eliminated the navigator with automation. Then we eliminated the flight engineer with automation. And now we have two pilots left. And then one? And then Autonomous Commercial Aircrafts with 300+ souls onboard? Is Ryan Air behind EASA? Just ask yourself why don't we have flying cars (with one driver) yet?
How about all the proposals for unmanned air taxis (and there are many)? Is that pretty safe? Lol
Eventually AI will do a much safer job than humans will ever do, but we're definitely not there yet.
Imagine getting on a plane in 2040:
" 𝑾𝒆𝒍𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒆 𝒂𝒃𝒐𝒂𝒓𝒅 𝑻𝒓𝒂𝒏𝒔-𝑶𝒄𝒆𝒂𝒏𝒊𝒄 𝑨𝒊𝒓𝒍𝒊𝒏𝒆𝒔 𝒇𝒍𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕 100. 𝑻𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒊𝒔 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒉𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒐𝒓𝒊𝒄 𝒇𝒊𝒓𝒔𝒕 𝒄𝒐𝒎𝒎𝒆𝒓𝒄𝒊𝒂𝒍 𝒇𝒍𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒐𝒇 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝒍𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒔𝒕 𝒊𝒏 𝒔𝒕𝒂𝒕𝒆-𝒐𝒇-𝒕𝒉𝒆-𝒂𝒓𝒕 𝒂𝒖𝒕𝒐𝒎𝒂𝒕𝒆𝒅 𝒂𝒊𝒓𝒄𝒓𝒂𝒇𝒕. 𝑺𝒐 𝒎𝒖𝒄𝒉 𝒔𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒊𝒓𝒄𝒓𝒂𝒇𝒕 𝒉𝒂𝒔 𝒏𝒐 𝒇𝒍𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕 𝒄𝒓𝒆𝒘 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒘𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒚𝒐𝒖 𝒂𝒓𝒆 𝒍𝒊𝒔𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒐 𝒊𝒔 𝒂 𝒓𝒆𝒄𝒐𝒓𝒅𝒊𝒏𝒈. 𝑩𝒖𝒕 𝒅𝒐 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒘𝒐𝒓𝒓𝒚, 𝒚𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒔𝒂𝒇𝒆𝒕𝒚 𝒊𝒔 𝒐𝒖𝒓 𝒕𝒐𝒑 𝒑𝒓𝒊𝒐𝒓𝒊𝒕𝒚, 𝒂𝒏𝒅 𝒕𝒉𝒆𝒓𝒆 𝒊𝒔 𝒂𝒃𝒔𝒐𝒍𝒖𝒕𝒆𝒍𝒚 𝒏𝒐 𝒄𝒉𝒂𝒏𝒄𝒆 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒂𝒏𝒚𝒕𝒉𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒈𝒐 𝒘𝒓𝒐𝒏𝒈...
𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒈𝒐 𝒘𝒓𝒐𝒏𝒈.... 𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒈𝒐 𝒘𝒓𝒐𝒏𝒈..... 𝒄𝒂𝒏 𝒈𝒐 𝒘𝒓𝒐𝒏𝒈....... "
@@haweater1555 Ah - ha . Your comment qualifies for comment of the year . Lol . Classic . Wished I had thought of it myself. Later
@@ronniewoodinsteadofmt2615 Not my original idea. Lead in joke from an article in a late 1980s hobby electronics magazine talking about the latest and future aircraft technology of the time, like GPS.
@@haweater1555 Ah - ha . Tremendous honesty. Two things . 1) If you ever decide to run for public office I’d vote for you and donate to campaign. 2) Your ability to remember and pull that out of your memory Rolodex is still remarkable. Appreciate it Brah .!! Later
Corporate greed again, huh? I'm not flying with only one pilot.
Based on factual information (review of CVR & FDR), the human pilots in the cockpit are definitely the weakest link. Review Air France FLT447. What makes aviation safe is excellent design and maintenance of aircraft systems.
Anyone who thinks this is a good idea has never flown an instrument approach.
Just watch any air disasters video where they handle a close call. Would any of those people have survived if there weren't at least 2 pilots? Very likely not.
what about the other accidents that were human error?
Wouldn't fly with one pilot. Hopfuly it doesn't happen. Everyone needs to start using flight simulator, just in case the worst were to happen.
What if he wants to fly somewhere Delta doesn't fly? Oh, I guess the CEO of Delta can just tell the plane to go whereever he wants.
I'm not sure how this insanity has been even considered. As stated, automation will never replace the two pilots upfront. Technology has reduced the cockpit crew member from 4, 3, 2, and now they think they can do with one?
Keep dreaming. Even a well trained pilot has a hard time flying a airline simulator by him/herself, and that's in a controller environment. Profits for safety will never fly.
so.. if one of the 2 pilots onboard is incapacitated.. we are all doomed?
Especially in long haul flights, its obvious that a Pilot will have to go the toilet. Who will take care of business at this moment ?
I can understand that the aircraft industry may have interest in this matter to sell airplanes to those unscrupulous airlines, but a Regulatory agency like EASA approve this and spend a lot of money ???? This is unacceptable !!!
@@gustavoheberle6265 I guess the airline should supply the pilot with a bed pan and hand wipes!
Do you remember? These are the same arguments like when the flight technician was no longer necessary. It's the fearmongering of losers trying to avoid the unavoidable.
Technically we do not lawyers or doctors anymore. We can automate all of those positions with near 100% accuracy. Better hope you’re all the above. Little loser.
@@wbay3848 you are right
lawyers and doctors unfortunately will be taken over by AI when the technology matures
As a pilot I would have no problem flying commercially with a single pilot in the future. Technology is improving to the point that automation is taking most of the work load off the pilots. A well trained pilot with advanced technology should be able to safely fly a plane. Pilots are going to fight this for many reasons but primarily for job preservation.
What WILL happen is single pilot onboard with 2-3 ground pilots ready to act during critical phases of flight.
If all else fails, an autoland button will be avail to land the aircraft at nearest - Cirrus jets already have this available and it will be coming to civilian airlines in our lifetime.