@SmackSanRB sorry still ill but i already have a idea that i will share with you as a Preview First Up A New Bangboo and New Char Of course all DMC related The Bangboo is ebony and Ivory a One of a kind Double Bangboo to Celebrate the Return of the Devil Hunter: We give you his Trusty guns its Physical and Pairs good with Billy to Bring a Dmc Vibe. The new CHAR IS The Strom that is Approaching as a Ice Attacker. the one and Only Vergil. His ability is The True son of Sparda While his Precision gauge is Loading he Gets Buffs like in dmC if you play hectic and get hit then the gauge goes down. Those Items are Obtainable on the Event The True Power Of a Son of Sparda. We take a new take on ZZZ for we bring lvls in a new way that one or the other Devil hunter will feel familiar with. All new Content Will be Able to get For free since its a Celebration with the Devil may cry Coins. Those you can get while enjoying missions the new event or even a New Mode? That Will Rivival anyone on there pursuit of power. With this We will Finally bring Vergil on a Encounter with his Daughter For he Can't Run any longer. Thats All Folks (Take a Break of this side story)?
@SmackSanRB thats all about the Preview if im better i will share the Full Second part. As Promised your the first one to hear about it. Pls Write me your thoughts on it in the comments since i Surely will take notice of it and look if i can integrated if possible.😊❤
As a 1.0 Player, I understand the tv mode hate from a functional game flow perspective with how it was on release, but provided it is one of the major things that makes Phaethon's identity (as the HDD device is exclusive to Phaethon and Scott Outpost as of yet, chapter 4 revealing that it was a work of Belle and Wise's mentor, etc), Chapter 4 as their test drive without TVs felt disjointed and incohesive without the HDD playing a part in the Hollow Navigation. I am not a complete fan of the in-combat style of exploration where it's just "zip from one location to another via conveniently placed fissure" despite the lack of logic and cohesion Hollows have, and the HDD really added that dimension of depth and chaos to the Hollows. I feel this aspect of the way Hollow Exploration felt is crucial to the feel and immersion of the game, and at the end of the day I gathered that the TV mode "support/disdain" camps are not extremes such as "keep it or remove it" discussion, plenty of people just want it improved and streamlined but to still have it there. Knowing that it's gonna be removed from the prior stories... I can't imagine how different parts of the Phaethon/Agent Stories will change within context, without the TV navigations. It feels a little hollow given how we've been presented with the story already and I really hope it's reimplemented at some point. Their current optimizations of the TV Navigation through Hollow Zero and Arpeggio Fault are felt and comparable to prior versions of the game. I've only felt the navigations getting faster, albeit Hollow Zero has a lot of events that you can really take your time with, and I don't think thats a bad thing for the specific case of "Hollow Zero is supposed to be a roguelike experience." The in-story explorations have their cutscenes with and without dialogue and those were clunky, but without the dedicated zoom-ins to certain dialogue cutscenes it solves the main grievance I've heard as to why TV mode was spoken out against.
I think the “grid” movement really holds it back; it’s slow and unresponsive. I hope they make it more like Bizzare Brigade (Rogue-like arcade game mode) because I was HOOKED when I first played it.
Hard agree. The Ch4 story felt like watching fun cutscenes that kept getting interrupted by mindlessly fighting squishy mobs over and over and running arbitrarily around a basically empty map, breaking up the pace of things for me in a way that I didn’t enjoy. If they’re going to remove it, I personally need a little bit more than a watered down version of the same combat I already do daily in things like HZ/Shiyu/Tower/mat farming, etc.
The ability to save a disc loadout for a character. Anomaly gauges on the big boss's health bars. When the boss spawns it is just the health bar but when you start to build an element a circle appears with the relevant symbol. The max you could have at a time is 4 (3 characters plus bangboo).
When it comes to implementing new features I think it's important to consider why it would be included and how it may further the game, rather than adding features to simply check a box. I personally view the addition of a jump button in this way, in a lot of games jumping is useful for traversal, in fighting games it's invaluable for certain combos, in some games it's useful for targeting airborne enemies. None of these things are a factor in zzz, and so a jump button wouldn't have any meaningful impact on how the game is played. As it is in zzz, every aspect of the combat has a meaningful impact on how we approach playing the game, whether it be stuns, anomalies, i-frames, etc. If there was a way to implement jumps in such a way that it had a meaningful impact on combat that'd be great, but that'd likely require a massive overhaul to the combat as a whole. Without that overhaul a jump button would just be a mildly interesting novelty. For A ranks, I do agree we need more, but adding too many too quickly would make it very difficult for anyone that's not a whale to get a decent number of dupes, or to even get their desired A rank at all. For TV mode, was never a big fan of it but I also feel like the hate was kinda overblown. As long as it's streamlined I think it's fine, and it does give additional opportunities for storytelling that's not just characters standing around with dialogue. If they're going to remove TV from the story entirely I'd want to see more comic style cut scenes to ensure variety. Also, skins and co-op would be awesome. Sorry for the essay 😅, just felt like adding my opinion. Keep up the great content!
I wanna see more characters interacting with each other and the proxy. Similarly to how we can invite each agent out on a date, i wanna be able to invite the entire faction/group to an event and interact with them all together/ watch them interact with each other. I miss seeing some of the og factions hanging out and they have such good chemistry when they are together on screen, I want more of that.
- The TV event like arpeggio can be there or removed I'm all okay with it BUT, please put TV mode back to story mode, let us act as a proper proxy and drive the story 🤣. - Improve fast travel UI, it so hard to navigate and find the destination. My suggestion is using some kind of mini-map (like in Persona 5).
TV mode should be slightly adjusted, but I wouldn't eliminate it completely. Character skins are a good suggestion without a doubt, but I can already sense that M word here, if you know what I mean. Having more A-Rank characters... I'm not sure what to think about that one. What I do know is that the Signal Search system could also use some balancing changes - either buffing our Polychrome income or maybe reducing the number of searches needed for S-rank signals to be guaranteed a drop. Something.
I cannot see this happening especially with the huge differences in character sizes. I mean Ben BiGGer already slow asf, a jump would be so insignificant on him you wouldn’t even notice it maybe
Tl;dr - *We are proxies, NOT combatants in this story.* TV mode is a good way to implement the main characters directly into the story through gameplay that fits the lore (HDD). This game IS NOT Genshin or HSR.✨ Without TV mode it'll feel like Chapter 4. Sons of Calydon content was finished extremely quick because battle missions only take like 5 mins each in this game if they aren't Rally missions. The pacing is bad because it's too fast and you can't really tell a good length story that way in Zenless UNLESS you have longer development periods like Genshin, so you can create more and longer story commissions with larger maps that you can explore with interactivity. TV allows the story to breath and pace itself out with as much dialogue as you want to include. Exploring the towers in Chapter 3 and doing puzzles to fix them was a nice touch too. This isn't an open world game like Genshin where we can actually explore an interactive map nor is it like HSR where there's a ton of visual novel storytelling. I bring that up because ZZZ would need to completely revamp in how they do storytelling if TV mode isn't around. Now, IF they implement a huge game overhaul and make it like Genshin or HSR, THEN sure keep TV mode separate. But for now, I really don't understand why so many people are content with wanting these super short 15-mins of Main Story content for gameplay in each patch. This game would be extremely short if you were to cut out all that content. I'm really looking forward in seeing how they handle this with patch 1.4 and whether or not it plays out well. *We are proxies, NOT combatants in this story.* Our pov is from Wise and Belle, so them reducing it so much kind of takes away our role of being a proxy and exploring the hollow if all we do is run around and fight for 5 mins while we control the characters to complete a chapter. For example, Rina's story was actually quite good with the Nurse in the TV mode Hollow. Imagine if it was just combat with no TV... like what even would that be like? One cutscene and one three-minute fight? *TV sets ZZZ apart from all other Gacha games and you can do so much more potential variety with it.* Removing so much TV mode and taking away the Proxy aspect of the game makes it feel like what are Belle and Wise even here for anymore? Should we suddenly make them combatants as well at this point even though their ether resistance is lower than the others and they're civilians? Even in Lighter's new agent story you "guide" him for like 30 seconds in the Hollow while the game lets you play as Lighter himself. TV mode is actually a good thing that makes ZZZ unique. Again, without it, the game storytelling is literally just 5 min combat missions with sparse dialogue and that's it.🤷🏻♀ It also removes the Mazelike puzzles that Hollows are supposed to be (lore wise). It's lazy that we conveniently just find fissures in a straight line in the new story content, why does Phaethon even need to be present at that point?
Increase the battery capacity or lower how much everything costs with batteries. Grinding is so annoying in this game because everything takes so many batteries.
I would love for aerial combat in this game, and I was actually hoping for a character that would make it a possibility. Something about air combos in game is just so cool to me.
I would like to see more militaristic characters from obsidian division or just any faction, I dont mind gooner characters but I rate characters by cool factor
Mode is actually a great way to access alot of new Skins. And I know not everybody can because it's PC exclusive and of course there is so much gonner shit there as well. But some are really nice hidden gems, like Yanagi in a knitted coat
About The A rank to S rank ratio,i think its cause the last one that was added was Seth right? who buffs anomaly? which was like 3 banners and is the meta.i dont know what A rank they could add during this time,but still,your right,too many S ranks compared to A ranks edit: forgot about caesar
1:21 I disagree. I am f2p and I am completely good that this game is "S-rank heavy". I was able to S-rank Shiyu and Hollow Zero after 1,5-2 months from release when I started playing. Present A-ranks can cover pretty much all beginner needs.
6:10 hell no... you guys realy don't get why we have a problem with the tv removal, do you? I don't want to have to docTV minigame in some random event. I want the TVs in the story because that's what's supposed to make Phaethon special and without them, the main character is more of a side character than any of the actual side characters.
I want the ultimate charge to be separated into an ultimate per character rather than one shared charge. I know they said they’re working on it already but I feel like it’s still worth mentioning
I would honestly love more combat options instead of just a jump button. Was thinking of something like a taunt from the Lighter story or a specialty skill
I do not think a jump button, at least in combat, is a good idea. Imagine in the rush of combat, trying to hit a jump button as well as your attack buttons
I feel like TV mode would be more tolerable if the division of tv mode to combat was switched to 80% overworld/combat and 20% tv mode. Phaethon could show their skills with fending off outside hackers or diagnosing tech issues. I totally stole this off of azrial vanity but it's not a bad solution considering all the optimizations they've done to the mode itself. (also jump button would be a bit weird but thats just my opinion)
I'm heavy on that Co-op feature. I seriously hope me and my friend are able to play, as he doesnt derive much fun from single player games. So, if I could play with him and maybe ramp up the difficulty as Co-op would make things a little too easy. (The game wouldn't be fun if they just got carried, so increase the difficulty with it to give them a challenge and also me a little more fun) This feature would be amazing.
I find it Sad That So Many New players Hate the TV mode i think thats what made ZZZ special and Unique. To say straight up no its annoying is saying the games identity is annoying which i hate from players. Make it optional or Improve it but don't listen to others and change what makes you special thats stupid with that is ZZZ one of Many gotchas again without identity or Uniqueness what a shame really.😢😢 now Pheaton is just some lore without core since you don't do their stuff anymore i hate new modern players who make everything for the worse such arrogance.
So few of the things I want to be added in the game are: 1) More combat options and combos, (the jump button is a great idea) like Side/down-normal or Side/down-special attacks which can be input by pressing "D" (on keyboard or the corresponding button for the current action on other platforms, same goes for "S" to do down attacks)This will bring more combat variety to the game and make the combat different with your teams. 2) Adding more puzzles while exploring or doing missions might be good. HoYo add new puzzles on events quite often but if they bring some of them to normal exploration or hangouts it would be great. No need to make them long because we don't want to spend minutes to clear a puzzle but something small is well enough. 3)Increasing the character level cap and talent cap, because the game feels too easy to build a character. I'm not saying it is a bad thing but in some way it makes it really easy to complete and just throw away. Level 80 should do the work and probably level 16 to 20 for talents if you have a character on Cinema 6 (Same goes for W-Engines) I think these are great ways to make the game more enjoyable and full of content that you have to do. Of course some people would not like to grind all of it, but let's be fair... The game is easy.
I like TVs. I would argue that the TV system should be only to get in and out of the Hollows, at the beginning and end of a story. And it should have a rework since some parts seem confusing.
I agree with skins and co-op, but I'd also like a server chat in game and something like a guild feature, just something that will let us interact more with the rest of the community
i agree with everything you said in this video mostly need a jump feature and co op gameplay like how genshin done it, would be cool to see a friend run around my world 😂
What I want is MORE KASA!!! Lol nah I'm just playing, But still!!! But I do agree with you on TV thing, it should be optional in my honest opinion. Not to say that it's bad but it's just not my thing I like the combat a lot more then the TV. Also I would love to see more animal thiren characters like Lycoan, and Ben or reptile characters like a dinosaur ( I don't think it's gonna happen but it would be awesome to see one though).
the reason they don't have coop is because combat in zzz is client side and for co op they will need to change it to server side which might feel buggy to play for some people because of high ping. . The only thing i would like to see added is maybe a option to star a domain so its always at the start like we can do for character so that i won't need to scroll everytime i come to farm artifects .
I Agree with your takes as for What I want 2025? First of I Want an Endless Hollow zero With tv mode and the rewards would change weekly An tv mode with hollow zero endless works would Work for tv enjoyers and non enjoyers would feel balanced an hollow zero Endless mode however should be challenging then our regular Hollow zero there should be 5 stages instead of 3 so that it would give the idea that your fighting off for an bigger boss Now how would it work? Well I suggest Hollow zero Endless Mode would reset every week similiar to end game hollow zero content but it will be more larger and random sets and every week it gets generated by ai exploration would be random so that your not going to same direction for example your going to finish level 1 but in level 2 but the road is changed that’s what I want to see an hollow zero with more lore and more exploration similiar to endless tower main rewards should reset weekly but other rewards like Denny and other materials it should be there the more you do it it’s endless so yeah Another thing I want is co. Op bosses like genshin like you said co op is an must but another feature I wanna seee is taunt button for our enemies Like it would aggravate them to attack you but you will dodge or parry them taunt button would work well within zzz considering doppelgänger jane doe does it as well if you afk too long she will taunt you with come on move so I believe taunt button is an must have but that’s what 2025 should need this is my opinion
I'd love more event weapons, and general W engines. Also, pulling CRAFTABLE W engines in gacha feels awful since I can already make them whenever I want. Ohh, being able to use one character from the profile of a friend would be nice. Allows one to try characters they don't have. Skins would be nice. I'd drop money for my favourite character skins on top of the monthly card and bp. Make it similar to genshin where one can get a skin every 3-4 months or something(since we get like 300 paid currency for purchasing a monthly card). Also, since the appearance of the 80 battery coffee, there's no actual use for the other coffees(60 with a double drop for one card..which is literally 80 battery worth of drops without the interknot exp for 20 battery since you're spending 60) unless they don't want to rank up as fast for some reason.. So why not repurpose coffee for something else?
I would preferred the pity guarantee of a s rank banner character to be %100, and if I pulled a s rank early that is not the banner character should not reset the pity. Same for w-engine banner. failing 50/50 multiples in a row would sucks and just quit the game for not getting banner character you want all because luck. Effort, sacrifice to skip to saved up, even money go to trash for being unlucky.
My Hot Takes: - I don't want a lot of more A-Ranks. A-Ranks are great account builders for new players getting into the game. The more diluted this cast is, the harder new players will have to catch up to ongoing players. Genshin Impact has a massive problem with its A-ranks (4 stars) 4 years into its life, and so far it seems ZZZ is on track to avoid this fate. - On Smack's point on A-ranks, a different take away: The Elemental system needs an overhaul. Not sure what the solution is here, but It does need fixing. - Probably my hottest take for the ZZZ community: Less fanservice on the characters. The amount of fanservice on these characters has actually caused a decent number of my friends to drop the game. And Burnice's skirt length was a major reason I didn't pull on her. I am not saying to not have any fanservice, I just would like the devs to tone it down.
i agree with this point, it's actually good that we do not have a giant pool of a-ranks looking at it from a beginner perspective, there may still be a lack of variety for now but it shouldn't get too big unless they would also change how to aquire said a-ranks, i also simply don't want to see chars with so much effort put into them to be always straight up weaker than the s-ranks which is just how they currently design those... it's really frustrating if you like one of them and they can't compete good enough as for the elemental system both here on this comment and the video i have to disagree, i am so happy that by default there is only resistances and weaknesses, there is ways around those and in the worst case it just makes a fight slightly more difficult but not impossible, unlike other games where you have fucking immunity or very specific mechanics that you can't solve without xy that not everyone has access to
I disagree with you saying that skin makes a lot of money.Think about to sell a skin to player the player need own that character,if the player doesn’t own the character why would they buy the skin (they won’t).Hoyo would be selling to a fraction of a fraction of the total player base.
@@plvto1 This game might be one of the simplest game they have. But I experienced hell in genshin. The mechanics are good and fun I just don't want to take hoyo seriously anymore. Unless its a game breaking bug, they won't move a single mouse on what players want. Some of the features in this game is what other players want in their other games.
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@SmackSanRB sorry still ill but i already have a idea that i will share with you as a Preview First Up A New Bangboo and New Char Of course all DMC related The Bangboo is ebony and Ivory a One of a kind Double Bangboo to Celebrate the Return of the Devil Hunter: We give you his Trusty guns its Physical and Pairs good with Billy to Bring a Dmc Vibe. The new CHAR IS The Strom that is Approaching as a Ice Attacker. the one and Only Vergil. His ability is The True son of Sparda While his Precision gauge is Loading he Gets Buffs like in dmC if you play hectic and get hit then the gauge goes down. Those Items are Obtainable on the Event The True Power Of a Son of Sparda. We take a new take on ZZZ for we bring lvls in a new way that one or the other Devil hunter will feel familiar with. All new Content Will be Able to get For free since its a Celebration with the Devil may cry Coins. Those you can get while enjoying missions the new event or even a New Mode? That Will Rivival anyone on there pursuit of power. With this We will Finally bring Vergil on a Encounter with his Daughter For he Can't Run any longer. Thats All Folks (Take a Break of this side story)?
@SmackSanRB thats all about the Preview if im better i will share the Full Second part. As Promised your the first one to hear about it. Pls Write me your thoughts on it in the comments since i Surely will take notice of it and look if i can integrated if possible.😊❤
If you don't find it now im gonna be pissed
As a 1.0 Player, I understand the tv mode hate from a functional game flow perspective with how it was on release, but provided it is one of the major things that makes Phaethon's identity (as the HDD device is exclusive to Phaethon and Scott Outpost as of yet, chapter 4 revealing that it was a work of Belle and Wise's mentor, etc), Chapter 4 as their test drive without TVs felt disjointed and incohesive without the HDD playing a part in the Hollow Navigation. I am not a complete fan of the in-combat style of exploration where it's just "zip from one location to another via conveniently placed fissure" despite the lack of logic and cohesion Hollows have, and the HDD really added that dimension of depth and chaos to the Hollows. I feel this aspect of the way Hollow Exploration felt is crucial to the feel and immersion of the game, and at the end of the day I gathered that the TV mode "support/disdain" camps are not extremes such as "keep it or remove it" discussion, plenty of people just want it improved and streamlined but to still have it there. Knowing that it's gonna be removed from the prior stories... I can't imagine how different parts of the Phaethon/Agent Stories will change within context, without the TV navigations. It feels a little hollow given how we've been presented with the story already and I really hope it's reimplemented at some point.
Their current optimizations of the TV Navigation through Hollow Zero and Arpeggio Fault are felt and comparable to prior versions of the game. I've only felt the navigations getting faster, albeit Hollow Zero has a lot of events that you can really take your time with, and I don't think thats a bad thing for the specific case of "Hollow Zero is supposed to be a roguelike experience." The in-story explorations have their cutscenes with and without dialogue and those were clunky, but without the dedicated zoom-ins to certain dialogue cutscenes it solves the main grievance I've heard as to why TV mode was spoken out against.
I think the “grid” movement really holds it back; it’s slow and unresponsive.
I hope they make it more like Bizzare Brigade (Rogue-like arcade game mode) because I was HOOKED when I first played it.
Hard agree. The Ch4 story felt like watching fun cutscenes that kept getting interrupted by mindlessly fighting squishy mobs over and over and running arbitrarily around a basically empty map, breaking up the pace of things for me in a way that I didn’t enjoy. If they’re going to remove it, I personally need a little bit more than a watered down version of the same combat I already do daily in things like HZ/Shiyu/Tower/mat farming, etc.
The ability to save a disc loadout for a character.
Anomaly gauges on the big boss's health bars. When the boss spawns it is just the health bar but when you start to build an element a circle appears with the relevant symbol. The max you could have at a time is 4 (3 characters plus bangboo).
I want more gameplay. More combat, more things to do, more ways to get materials without energy and more polychrome.
When it comes to implementing new features I think it's important to consider why it would be included and how it may further the game, rather than adding features to simply check a box. I personally view the addition of a jump button in this way, in a lot of games jumping is useful for traversal, in fighting games it's invaluable for certain combos, in some games it's useful for targeting airborne enemies. None of these things are a factor in zzz, and so a jump button wouldn't have any meaningful impact on how the game is played. As it is in zzz, every aspect of the combat has a meaningful impact on how we approach playing the game, whether it be stuns, anomalies, i-frames, etc. If there was a way to implement jumps in such a way that it had a meaningful impact on combat that'd be great, but that'd likely require a massive overhaul to the combat as a whole. Without that overhaul a jump button would just be a mildly interesting novelty.
For A ranks, I do agree we need more, but adding too many too quickly would make it very difficult for anyone that's not a whale to get a decent number of dupes, or to even get their desired A rank at all.
For TV mode, was never a big fan of it but I also feel like the hate was kinda overblown. As long as it's streamlined I think it's fine, and it does give additional opportunities for storytelling that's not just characters standing around with dialogue. If they're going to remove TV from the story entirely I'd want to see more comic style cut scenes to ensure variety.
Also, skins and co-op would be awesome.
Sorry for the essay 😅, just felt like adding my opinion. Keep up the great content!
I wanna see more characters interacting with each other and the proxy. Similarly to how we can invite each agent out on a date, i wanna be able to invite the entire faction/group to an event and interact with them all together/ watch them interact with each other. I miss seeing some of the og factions hanging out and they have such good chemistry when they are together on screen, I want more of that.
I need my TV mode back. I hate that they will remove it completely, painful but whatever please the short attention span gang
- The TV event like arpeggio can be there or removed I'm all okay with it BUT, please put TV mode back to story mode, let us act as a proper proxy and drive the story 🤣.
- Improve fast travel UI, it so hard to navigate and find the destination. My suggestion is using some kind of mini-map (like in Persona 5).
No
TV mode should be slightly adjusted, but I wouldn't eliminate it completely. Character skins are a good suggestion without a doubt, but I can already sense that M word here, if you know what I mean.
Having more A-Rank characters... I'm not sure what to think about that one. What I do know is that the Signal Search system could also use some balancing changes - either buffing our Polychrome income or maybe reducing the number of searches needed for S-rank signals to be guaranteed a drop. Something.
The jump button is actually a great idea! Would make combat even more fun and cool looking
I cannot see this happening especially with the huge differences in character sizes. I mean Ben BiGGer already slow asf, a jump would be so insignificant on him you wouldn’t even notice it maybe
nah as a mobile player thats just gonna be annoying having an extra button
on the screen
Or dodge animations could sometimes caused you to jump.
Definitely co-op tower and co-op raid boss co-op hollow zero also
Tl;dr - *We are proxies, NOT combatants in this story.* TV mode is a good way to implement the main characters directly into the story through gameplay that fits the lore (HDD). This game IS NOT Genshin or HSR.✨
Without TV mode it'll feel like Chapter 4. Sons of Calydon content was finished extremely quick because battle missions only take like 5 mins each in this game if they aren't Rally missions. The pacing is bad because it's too fast and you can't really tell a good length story that way in Zenless UNLESS you have longer development periods like Genshin, so you can create more and longer story commissions with larger maps that you can explore with interactivity. TV allows the story to breath and pace itself out with as much dialogue as you want to include.
Exploring the towers in Chapter 3 and doing puzzles to fix them was a nice touch too. This isn't an open world game like Genshin where we can actually explore an interactive map nor is it like HSR where there's a ton of visual novel storytelling. I bring that up because ZZZ would need to completely revamp in how they do storytelling if TV mode isn't around.
Now, IF they implement a huge game overhaul and make it like Genshin or HSR, THEN sure keep TV mode separate. But for now, I really don't understand why so many people are content with wanting these super short 15-mins of Main Story content for gameplay in each patch. This game would be extremely short if you were to cut out all that content. I'm really looking forward in seeing how they handle this with patch 1.4 and whether or not it plays out well.
*We are proxies, NOT combatants in this story.*
Our pov is from Wise and Belle, so them reducing it so much kind of takes away our role of being a proxy and exploring the hollow if all we do is run around and fight for 5 mins while we control the characters to complete a chapter. For example, Rina's story was actually quite good with the Nurse in the TV mode Hollow. Imagine if it was just combat with no TV... like what even would that be like? One cutscene and one three-minute fight? *TV sets ZZZ apart from all other Gacha games and you can do so much more potential variety with it.*
Removing so much TV mode and taking away the Proxy aspect of the game makes it feel like what are Belle and Wise even here for anymore? Should we suddenly make them combatants as well at this point even though their ether resistance is lower than the others and they're civilians?
Even in Lighter's new agent story you "guide" him for like 30 seconds in the Hollow while the game lets you play as Lighter himself. TV mode is actually a good thing that makes ZZZ unique. Again, without it, the game storytelling is literally just 5 min combat missions with sparse dialogue and that's it.🤷🏻♀ It also removes the Mazelike puzzles that Hollows are supposed to be (lore wise). It's lazy that we conveniently just find fissures in a straight line in the new story content, why does Phaethon even need to be present at that point?
Increase the battery capacity or lower how much everything costs with batteries. Grinding is so annoying in this game because everything takes so many batteries.
I like this idea!
That's a good suggestion.
I would love for aerial combat in this game, and I was actually hoping for a character that would make it a possibility. Something about air combos in game is just so cool to me.
I love to ZZZ to have some special combo's similar to fighting games like this Zenless won't be only a "button mushing simulator"
Miyabi in a maid costume
That’s crazy😭
@ appears the miyabi colt
Already fantasizing?
I would like to see more militaristic characters from obsidian division or just any faction, I dont mind gooner characters but I rate characters by cool factor
Mode is actually a great way to access alot of new Skins. And I know not everybody can because it's PC exclusive and of course there is so much gonner shit there as well. But some are really nice hidden gems, like Yanagi in a knitted coat
About The A rank to S rank ratio,i think its cause the last one that was added was Seth right? who buffs anomaly? which was like 3 banners and is the meta.i dont know what A rank they could add during this time,but still,your right,too many S ranks compared to A ranks
edit: forgot about caesar
You know what, that’s a fair point tho.
1:21 I disagree. I am f2p and I am completely good that this game is "S-rank heavy". I was able to S-rank Shiyu and Hollow Zero after 1,5-2 months from release when I started playing. Present A-ranks can cover pretty much all beginner needs.
6:10 hell no... you guys realy don't get why we have a problem with the tv removal, do you?
I don't want to have to docTV minigame in some random event. I want the TVs in the story because that's what's supposed to make Phaethon special and without them, the main character is more of a side character than any of the actual side characters.
I want the ultimate charge to be separated into an ultimate per character rather than one shared charge. I know they said they’re working on it already but I feel like it’s still worth mentioning
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I would honestly love more combat options instead of just a jump button. Was thinking of something like a taunt from the Lighter story or a specialty skill
That would be some heat lowkey! No pun intended
Yeah I wish they would just take away the battery energy system so I can grind as much as I want
I do not think a jump button, at least in combat, is a good idea. Imagine in the rush of combat, trying to hit a jump button as well as your attack buttons
I agree as well, so far the game does not seem to require a jump button at all atleast for me
I feel like TV mode would be more tolerable if the division of tv mode to combat was switched to 80% overworld/combat and 20% tv mode. Phaethon could show their skills with fending off outside hackers or diagnosing tech issues. I totally stole this off of azrial vanity but it's not a bad solution considering all the optimizations they've done to the mode itself.
(also jump button would be a bit weird but thats just my opinion)
Agent stories for all agents would be really nice, but i also think it would be pretty hard to make all of them.
I'm heavy on that Co-op feature. I seriously hope me and my friend are able to play, as he doesnt derive much fun from single player games. So, if I could play with him and maybe ramp up the difficulty as Co-op would make things a little too easy. (The game wouldn't be fun if they just got carried, so increase the difficulty with it to give them a challenge and also me a little more fun) This feature would be amazing.
they should give ellen joe a rerun. if not, im gonna go insane!!!11! (literally) :(
I find it Sad That So Many New players Hate the TV mode i think thats what made ZZZ special and Unique. To say straight up no its annoying is saying the games identity is annoying which i hate from players. Make it optional or Improve it but don't listen to others and change what makes you special thats stupid with that is ZZZ one of Many gotchas again without identity or Uniqueness what a shame really.😢😢 now Pheaton is just some lore without core since you don't do their stuff anymore i hate new modern players who make everything for the worse such arrogance.
So few of the things I want to be added in the game are:
1) More combat options and combos, (the jump button is a great idea) like Side/down-normal or Side/down-special attacks which can be input by pressing "D" (on keyboard or the corresponding button for the current action on other platforms, same goes for "S" to do down attacks)This will bring more combat variety to the game and make the combat different with your teams.
2) Adding more puzzles while exploring or doing missions might be good. HoYo add new puzzles on events quite often but if they bring some of them to normal exploration or hangouts it would be great. No need to make them long because we don't want to spend minutes to clear a puzzle but something small is well enough.
3)Increasing the character level cap and talent cap, because the game feels too easy to build a character. I'm not saying it is a bad thing but in some way it makes it really easy to complete and just throw away. Level 80 should do the work and probably level 16 to 20 for talents if you have a character on Cinema 6 (Same goes for W-Engines)
I think these are great ways to make the game more enjoyable and full of content that you have to do. Of course some people would not like to grind all of it, but let's be fair... The game is easy.
I like TVs. I would argue that the TV system should be only to get in and out of the Hollows, at the beginning and end of a story. And it should have a rework since some parts seem confusing.
They should buff Ben's Model in game
He aint round enough >:[ /srs
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I agree with skins and co-op, but I'd also like a server chat in game and something like a guild feature, just something that will let us interact more with the rest of the community
i agree with everything you said in this video mostly need a jump feature and co op gameplay like how genshin done it, would be cool to see a friend run around my world 😂
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What I want is MORE KASA!!! Lol nah I'm just playing, But still!!! But I do agree with you on TV thing, it should be optional in my honest opinion. Not to say that it's bad but it's just not my thing I like the combat a lot more then the TV. Also I would love to see more animal thiren characters like Lycoan, and Ben or reptile characters like a dinosaur ( I don't think it's gonna happen but it would be awesome to see one though).
I was just talking about this to one of my friends also they should add synergy specials
the reason they don't have coop is because combat in zzz is client side and for co op they will need to change it to server side which might feel buggy to play for some people because of high ping.
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The only thing i would like to see added is maybe a option to star a domain so its always at the start like we can do for character so that i won't need to scroll everytime i come to farm artifects .
I want a better map like in Persona 5, and an improvement in the story at the beginning. It takes far too long at the start.
I think in 1.4 they r redoing the beginning of the story
@SmackSanRB they said it in the last ask the Devs stream but still maybe it isn't enough
More combat and gameplay
I Agree with your takes as for
What I want 2025?
First of I Want an Endless Hollow zero With tv mode and the rewards would change weekly
An tv mode with hollow zero endless works would
Work for tv enjoyers and non enjoyers would feel balanced an hollow zero
Endless mode however should be challenging then our regular
Hollow zero there should be 5 stages instead of 3 so that it would give the idea that your fighting off for an bigger boss
Now how would it work? Well I suggest Hollow zero
Endless
Mode would reset every week similiar to end game hollow zero content but it will be more larger and random sets and every week it gets generated by ai exploration would be random so that your not going to same direction for example your going to finish level 1 but in level 2 but the road is changed that’s what I want to see an hollow zero with more lore and more exploration similiar to endless tower main rewards should reset weekly but other rewards like Denny and other materials it should be there the more you do it it’s endless so yeah
Another thing I want is
co. Op bosses like genshin like you said co op is an must but another feature I wanna seee is taunt button for our enemies
Like it would aggravate them to attack you but you will dodge or parry them taunt button would work well within zzz considering doppelgänger jane doe does it as well if you afk too long she will taunt you with come on move so I believe taunt button is an must have but that’s what 2025 should need this is my opinion
I really want co-op.. its unlikely that there will be co-ops but still,I really really want co-op
I'd love more event weapons, and general W engines. Also, pulling CRAFTABLE W engines in gacha feels awful since I can already make them whenever I want.
Ohh, being able to use one character from the profile of a friend would be nice. Allows one to try characters they don't have.
Skins would be nice. I'd drop money for my favourite character skins on top of the monthly card and bp. Make it similar to genshin where one can get a skin every 3-4 months or something(since we get like 300 paid currency for purchasing a monthly card).
Also, since the appearance of the 80 battery coffee, there's no actual use for the other coffees(60 with a double drop for one card..which is literally 80 battery worth of drops without the interknot exp for 20 battery since you're spending 60) unless they don't want to rank up as fast for some reason.. So why not repurpose coffee for something else?
I would preferred the pity guarantee of a s rank banner character to be %100, and if I pulled a s rank early that is not the banner character should not reset the pity.
Same for w-engine banner.
failing 50/50 multiples in a row would sucks and just quit the game for not getting banner character you want all because luck.
Effort, sacrifice to skip to saved up, even money go to trash for being unlucky.
My Hot Takes:
- I don't want a lot of more A-Ranks. A-Ranks are great account builders for new players getting into the game. The more diluted this cast is, the harder new players will have to catch up to ongoing players. Genshin Impact has a massive problem with its A-ranks (4 stars) 4 years into its life, and so far it seems ZZZ is on track to avoid this fate.
- On Smack's point on A-ranks, a different take away: The Elemental system needs an overhaul. Not sure what the solution is here, but It does need fixing.
- Probably my hottest take for the ZZZ community: Less fanservice on the characters. The amount of fanservice on these characters has actually caused a decent number of my friends to drop the game. And Burnice's skirt length was a major reason I didn't pull on her. I am not saying to not have any fanservice, I just would like the devs to tone it down.
i agree with this point, it's actually good that we do not have a giant pool of a-ranks looking at it from a beginner perspective, there may still be a lack of variety for now but it shouldn't get too big unless they would also change how to aquire said a-ranks, i also simply don't want to see chars with so much effort put into them to be always straight up weaker than the s-ranks which is just how they currently design those... it's really frustrating if you like one of them and they can't compete good enough
as for the elemental system both here on this comment and the video i have to disagree, i am so happy that by default there is only resistances and weaknesses, there is ways around those and in the worst case it just makes a fight slightly more difficult but not impossible, unlike other games where you have fucking immunity or very specific mechanics that you can't solve without xy that not everyone has access to
1:47 you sure you don't have it backwards?
I might not recover financially if they add skins. 😭
6:12 Isn't that just exploration mode tho?
More cool male characters so I don’t keep getting flamed for playing this game
i want ellen joe
Ether characters!
will i ever have ellen joe
give me ellen joe
I want more fan service
also I want ellen school outfit skin
I disagree with you saying that skin makes a lot of money.Think about to sell a skin to player the player need own that character,if the player doesn’t own the character why would they buy the skin (they won’t).Hoyo would be selling to a fraction of a fraction of the total player base.
What is this BS? Want list? As if hoyo listens.
you're clearly new to this game
They don't listen well at all.
@@plvto1 This game might be one of the simplest game they have. But I experienced hell in genshin. The mechanics are good and fun I just don't want to take hoyo seriously anymore. Unless its a game breaking bug, they won't move a single mouse on what players want. Some of the features in this game is what other players want in their other games.