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Today I get SOOO mad because the Halo overlays for the onboard camera are not in sync with the image!! The overlay shows the drivers braking, accelerating or even changing gear before the image and sound do so... and as a sim racer it's VERY VERY upsetting... I know that the overlay data sent from the car are just numbers, while the video feed is much more expensive in terms of data bandwidth, hence why it's delivered later. But come on!! Buffer half a second of telemetry and make that shit work properly!!!
I'm a little surprised you're still promoting NordVPN given their recent issues with being hacked and user accounts being compromised. Note: I did avail myself of this offer prior to the hack but I'm now looking for another provider, not so much because of the hack, but because of the way the company handled the fallout.
Hi Stuart! I want to support your channel, but I don't want to use VPNs or other sponsored links, but I wasn't aware you're on Patreon. Why don't you advertise that more clear? :) Anywho, Guess who's part of your Patreon squad now? :D
Stuart you need to break out from any deal you have with nordVPN they are burning faster than the Honda engines that Alonso had. They got big time hacked and tried to cover it up. Plus stored users passwords in plain text.
@Roshan Chetan Maybe (very strangely) he didn't manage to read through and interpret all 138 pages of the technical, 84 pages of the sporting and 41 pages of the financial regulations yet...
He was talking about the 2021 regs before all the hype, and was in part responsible for said hype (i.e. made videos about it as early as 2018 and turned the public's attention towards these regulations, in turn putting pressure on Liberty to do their job). Besides, he can afford to wait for a bit, make a well thought-out video, make sure it's on par with his other great work, because he has proven his credibility countless times, and whenever that video comes out, it's gonna circulate all across the F1 community
@@harchitb By pitting as soon as possible after the other car does, so as not to allow him, on fresh tyres, to set faster times than you, on worn tyres, thus allowing him to emerge ahead once your stop has been made. It doesn't *always* work this way, but does often enough to have a term named for it, and it's one Ferrari have been remarkably poor at recognising in recent races/years.
@@harchitb Depends a bit on the situation. If you're more than 2 seconds ahead, pitting immediately should do the trick. If he was right on your heels, you could try to pit before him, or stretch the tires out if the other guy pits too early. Like I said, it depends a lot. The only objectively wrong thing to do is to not respond to it at all, pit 3 laps later, and then come out way behind.
"This is the first time that a college athlete from IV Tech has caught a pass at the 34 yard line while being headbutted by a member of the opposing team and while tripping over his teammate's foot!"
I`m also ok with it, just a little thing about where the race actually happens, since F1 DOES make a lot of noise about unique tracks and places, couple of stats at the intro seems appropriate to me.
@@hftyhhgfbbkihfdf Yeah it's just a relaxing build up to help build the scene and get the viewer interested, just like the drone shots they do of the scenery of the surrounding area.
The whole pre-race stage-setting Liberty does now is simply brilliant. The random country facts just helps solidify where in the world the race is happening, which naturally transitions to the track map presentation (also coming with their own random facts, which helps lay some historical context). And from there, it transitions to the starting grid. Honestly, it's perfect :D
I dropped the resolution of the video too to approximate watching it on an old TV. It really shows why they needed to keep the graphics minimal and chunky
I look forward to a time when I can choose what part of the grid I want to see (plus rewinds), but I think linear television will be with us for many years yet
@@ivan_pozdeev_u you can watch the TV feed, a pitlane camera and on-board from any driver (this last one is cut when the car is in the garage or when a crash happened and there's no confirmation of the driver being ok).
OK, a few things, because this is a subject I am hugely knowledgeable about: - There was a set used sporadically between 1991 and 1993, mainly for European races. - The changes you refer to at 1:53 were made in 2001, not 2002, and sometimes featured a driver's first initial as well, as part of the changing solutions to the problem of two Schumachers. - F1Digital+ feeds existed between 1997 and 2002, and their own graphics only came in in 1999. - "Count down the laps with us" was a thing of its time. Indeed, now, I tend to have the opposite problem of "how many laps to go?" - Race control messages still - to this day - don't have the driver name on the timing screens. Between 2004 and, I think, 2010 or 2011, they were simply a copy-paste of the timing screen. - 5:33 - the splash screens had already existed by 1996. - 6:52 - the 2009 changes were simply adding a light filter along the top half of the graphic, which was all the rage until about 2015 or 2016. Look at Sky's own graphics - this was a trait they kept until the Nomad redesign in 2017. - 6:58 - a separate 4:3 and 16:9 graphics feed existed for a long time (until 2014, I believe). The UK actually didn't switch over to the 16:9 feeds until 2012, as the "digital switchover" hadn't been completed yet. - 8:00 - by 2013, everything was in a straight vertical stack. - 10:20 - the timing tower was moved to the left from China 2017 onwards. My personal favourite package was the 2004-09 set, although the 2015 set, which I didn't like at first, hugely grew on me and by 2017 I was sorry to see it go. I hate the 2018 set, they look clunky and like something out of a video game, although I suppose that fits Liberty's brand of gimmicky flashy colours a bit more than the glamorous professionalism of Bernie Ecclestone.
I believe the reason the lap counter counted DOWN was because, in the days of refuelling, it was seen as important to see how many laps were left, rather than how many had gone by. For instance, if somebody pitted and you could see that there were 38 laps to go, you could reasonably work out there and then if they'd need 1 more stop or 2.
@@djagplayings if you got the data from a few years back then it was pretty normal. Kubica was finishing in the top 5 pretty much every race and Hamilton just debuted. Kubica is not a bad driver perse and he is seen as a recklessly fast driver in pretty much every motorsport he competes in. When he was at 100%, he was pretty much at the same level as Saintz and Norris. He was obviously less talented than Hamilton, Vettel or Verstappen but he could hold his own in the top 5. In the winter testing, he also showed that he still can post good laps.
Master Drive Hamilton didn't just debut lol, this was from 2010, Webber was leading the championship, and Kubica was very impressive. Come to think of it, this may have been from after the Monaco GP, before Hamilton won a race that season
@@parvp4529 and then won again in britain outright (because he was the only 'fast' car on the track after a controversial incident between him and max)
@@uhlnd-tnny2983 yeah, tooooo big. How can they race if they are almost twice a size of 2000 cars? I understand safety, bu then, make other parts smaller. FIA could easily just force on teams to make smaller cars and they would make them.
I started watching live races regularly in 1995 when terrestrial television in Ireland was able to broadcast them. So I remember those graphics very well. They were simple but very effective and imo never looked outdated. To me they were very modern. But the onboard shots with telemetry in the mid 2000s were my favourite.
There's one more curiosity about the graphics before 1994: Every time the current standings or the fastest lap graphics had to be shown, the text was written in the language of the country hosting the Grand Prix. As far as I've seen, it could come up in English, Spanish, French, Italian, German and Portuguese. The only exception I believe was the Japanese Grand Prix; the average F1 fan probably couldn't read katakana back then.
Totally agree, 2015 package is truly the best Also they added the permanent side tower to show driver positions in 2017, sadly the last year before the big rebrand
I just recently got into F1 after watching the Netflix series on it. I've been a big NASCAR fan for almost 2 decades and I have to say your channel has really helped me understand a lot of things it would have taken me a lot longer to figure out on my own. Thanks.
Great video as usual, Chain Bear. As a medium level old man (41), I knew the graphics and info had come a long way but I hadn't appreciated by how much (and where things had kind of gone the wrong way). I well remember as a kid the early 80's where you got the top six or eight bang in the middle of the screen obscuring the track action and you sometimes got fastest lap info, gap information or driver info updates,, all of it in the race's host country language. Can't read Portuguese? Your problem, viewer, you'll just have to guess whether we told you Gerhard Berger's either just set fastest lap or retired from the race, because the TV director hasn't switched away from Nelson Piquet running around on his own for 12 laps! :)
Speaking of on-screen graphics, at first I was like "Damn that BenQ monitor looks crisp" and I'm ashamed to admit how long it took me to realise its a green-screen haha nice idea CB, looks great!
@@quack9694 Well some AI making up a difficulty for an overtake won't be accurate because there is different drivers and cars and their performance changes all the time. Also it adds nothing to the expirience of watching a race. And that tyre graphic is not accurate. Teams usually don't even know how much is left in the tyres.
@@quack9694 neither are accurate. They just post random figures that the gullible casual will believe thus them having false knowledge of the sport. Also did i mention that theyre inaccurate?
@@alexm.s4000 whenever i see "striking distance in 6 laps" is always say to myself 5 laps then. I like the idea of striking distance, but why do they always seem a single lap off?
I think it would be really cool to have a sort of companion app with the graphics generated from all of the data. Keeps the screen clear but you can still access live timing, current tires choices, stint lengths, and other interesting information. I really like anything that would help me to keep track of battles that aren't on screen. (When those were more common 😁)
If you haven't already seen it, you should look into the 1979 Argentinian Grand Prix. Not only did we get a trackmap on screen during the formation lap, but someone in the TV broadcast department was manually tracking the position of the cars "live" and updating the position of a blob on the trackmap. The results were...mixed.
It's very much known how they got hacked; a server in Finland was accessed without authorisation via a remote monitoring utility left in place by the data centre. Vulnerabilities exist in all organisations in varying magnitudes. The bigger issue is how they handled the entire situation at the time! It occurred in Mar-18 and instead of being publicly open about it back then, they kept quiet!! It's highly unlikely that we would no about it at all if it wasn't for the investigative research that TechCrunch did which forced them to publicly acknowledge the incident. For me that's far worse as it's essentially a betrayal of trust!
What a video! This took me back ❤️ not going to lie miss the fact they don't show which tyres everyone is on anymore 😢 that was so helpful and I was kind of hoping you'd put the micro sectors they had in quali for a bit, but guess it was more of a race graphic type thing, either way love these history of videos!!
Great video, I've always found on-screen graphics important for the aesthetics of the sport. Which is why I'm not a fan of post-2009 graphics. Basically I find the pre-2004 graphics to be the best. Back then, the race came out more mythical and awe-inspiring in part due to the simpler graphics. I like not knowing too many details. It makes the sport more human and less robotic.
Actually, there are some mistakes: - the flag indicators were already existing im F1 Digital, with yellow circles. Safety Car got orange circle, and for the red flag we've had huge red circles. - Introduction splash was already existing earlier in F1 Digital as well. - G-Force meter was already existing in 2005, it was only improved in 2007 to the version you've shown at 6:24 - I think we've already had starting tyres back in 2007, but I'm not sure. Great material anyway!
The timing graphic which was added in the mid 2000s and updated as a driver crossed the line really added tension that modern graphics just don’t give you. For example in Brazil 2008 when Hamilton passed Glock and you weren’t quite sure weather Hamilton passed Glock to seal the world title until he crossed the line
Don't get me wrong, but your voice makes me go to sleep faster than anything when I watch your videos. Especially when I'm sleepy in the middle of the night. I love your content and I have been watching them all since last year. I just wanted you to know that your voice is very calming :)
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I really preferred the laps counting down instead of up. It's much more useful to know how many laps you have left instead how many are done. Yes, you can count it both ways, but still the counting down was more convenient.
It might be more useful for the drivers, but it's not at all convenient for spectators. For us, knowing how many laps are left isn't really important until the last few laps, at which point we can easily calculate it ourselves. That's the only real advantage of counting-down I can think of, while everything else would be much more suited to counting-up.
Great video! Absolutely loved it. F1 graphics actually developed over the time. I remember these old ones of the 90s when I grew up and became a big fan of this sport. Never had the chance of getting digital TV at that time. I always loved these blue ones by F1 Digital. When I got my digital TV it was 2003 - one year too late. While the graphics since 2018 are really great, my favorite time was from 2010 on.
Wonderful to see these graphics again! I liked the thermal camera showing the tyre temperature, which had patches of black and white and colours overlaid on the tyres!
I personally got to focus on the graphic and found it distracting. Started just looking at the graphic and not the cars. But I guess we all got our own taste.
@@avada0 In qualifying, there where small boxes beneath the driver's name and laptime (at the bottom of the screen), and they would be colour-coded (green for personal best, yellow for not improving etc). Apparently it messed up some parts of the graphics or timing code and it was never tried again (or at least that's the story I've read).
@@hkr667 I can see the sponsorship on the boards and cars. I don't need Crofty saying "probability of overtake powered by aws" because it takes me out of the action. It comes across as tacky and ham fisted.
I've been wondering about that forever too, I guess that was just an aesthetic choice. Compliments the yellow and black numbers well. Interestingly they were not part of the package when it was introduced in 1994.
I look forward to injecting analytical data into my vein, lap by lap As well, that sponsorship from NordVPN is an ouchie, considering their recent disclosing of a data breach.
That lap counter counting down to zero is absolutely nostalgic for me, it reminds me these times that 5 year old me supporting raikkönen for him on 2007
I liked the lap countdown more... I find it more useful to know how many laps drivers have left to catch the next car than knowing how many laps had been raced.
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When you have to compute tires life and pitstops, it sometimes get confusing !
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Today I get SOOO mad because the Halo overlays for the onboard camera are not in sync with the image!! The overlay shows the drivers braking, accelerating or even changing gear before the image and sound do so... and as a sim racer it's VERY VERY upsetting... I know that the overlay data sent from the car are just numbers, while the video feed is much more expensive in terms of data bandwidth, hence why it's delivered later. But come on!! Buffer half a second of telemetry and make that shit work properly!!!
I'm a little surprised you're still promoting NordVPN given their recent issues with being hacked and user accounts being compromised.
Note: I did avail myself of this offer prior to the hack but I'm now looking for another provider, not so much because of the hack, but because of the way the company handled the fallout.
Hi Stuart!
I want to support your channel, but I don't want to use VPNs or other sponsored links, but I wasn't aware you're on Patreon. Why don't you advertise that more clear? :)
Anywho, Guess who's part of your Patreon squad now? :D
Stuart you need to break out from any deal you have with nordVPN they are burning faster than the Honda engines that Alonso had. They got big time hacked and tried to cover it up. Plus stored users passwords in plain text.
I agree with the other comments, you need to distance yourself from NordVPN.
Everyone else: 2021 regulations!
Chain bear: TV graphics, that's the real story here.
Better having a topic nobody is doing than one you can't anything new at the moment.
Yeah, I'd like to know who was responsible for this stupid idea.
@Roshan Chetan
Maybe (very strangely) he didn't manage to read through and interpret all 138 pages of the technical, 84 pages of the sporting and 41 pages of the financial regulations yet...
@@Adrian-jn9ov True
He was talking about the 2021 regs before all the hype, and was in part responsible for said hype (i.e. made videos about it as early as 2018 and turned the public's attention towards these regulations, in turn putting pressure on Liberty to do their job). Besides, he can afford to wait for a bit, make a well thought-out video, make sure it's on par with his other great work, because he has proven his credibility countless times, and whenever that video comes out, it's gonna circulate all across the F1 community
13:18 "And is usually used to show Ferrari throwing away a race victory by not responding to undercuts" I'm dying lmaooo
trying to learn f1. how would you respond ?
It was a great line . I did laugh quite a bit
@@harchitb By pitting as soon as possible after the other car does, so as not to allow him, on fresh tyres, to set faster times than you, on worn tyres, thus allowing him to emerge ahead once your stop has been made. It doesn't *always* work this way, but does often enough to have a term named for it, and it's one Ferrari have been remarkably poor at recognising in recent races/years.
Honestly a good metric though. Large sample size
@@harchitb Depends a bit on the situation. If you're more than 2 seconds ahead, pitting immediately should do the trick. If he was right on your heels, you could try to pit before him, or stretch the tires out if the other guy pits too early. Like I said, it depends a lot. The only objectively wrong thing to do is to not respond to it at all, pit 3 laps later, and then come out way behind.
I really like the introduction of the track cause i wanna get told by crofty in which corner grosjean crashed out a few years ago 🤷♂️
I know an easy mnemonic for this: "All of them" 😂
LOL
Can we just appreciate how on point the Chain Bear's drawn graphics are? He did an amazing job as always.
@@RBenjo21 Your channel says otherwise brother
Yes we can
It ended up being true since they didn't even change the regs till 22
Eeyyy he's actually Chain Beard
He's still chain bear. No chain twink for sure
Why he change his name?
Suddenly chain bear sounds really kinky
@@pentilex4338 I think op (and 835 others) aren't aware of, well, yeah, our language!
Who can ever forget that monumental battle between Lastname and Lastname?
Ahh yes, still can't belive Lastname won that battle on track.
Ik, Lastname was so much quicker than Lastname 😂
Yes, Lastname was so quick! Remember when he was ahead of Lastname by 4 seconds?
I am particularly fond of Surname beating Lastname in 2009. Last time F1 was any good.
I did enjoy it when Middlename won for the first time in 2010, Lastname didn’t see it coming.
Let's not forget Liberty is an US company...and they love their sports stats
"This is the first time that a college athlete from IV Tech has caught a pass at the 34 yard line while being headbutted by a member of the opposing team and while tripping over his teammate's foot!"
@@aidanquiett668 In third quater, while it's raining and after not playing for two games
@@skrlaviolette Nice to see others get the joke here
Oh God F1 is going to turn into baseball.
@@ze_rubenator Football my good man
I love the Countries sidefacts :>
I`m also ok with it, just a little thing about where the race actually happens, since F1 DOES make a lot of noise about unique tracks and places, couple of stats at the intro seems appropriate to me.
@@hftyhhgfbbkihfdf Yeah it's just a relaxing build up to help build the scene and get the viewer interested, just like the drone shots they do of the scenery of the surrounding area.
@@hftyhhgfbbkihfdf exactly
@@daniel8763 They are actual helicopter shots
The whole pre-race stage-setting Liberty does now is simply brilliant.
The random country facts just helps solidify where in the world the race is happening, which naturally transitions to the track map presentation (also coming with their own random facts, which helps lay some historical context).
And from there, it transitions to the starting grid. Honestly, it's perfect :D
24 years of internet pop-up ads has made me pop-up blind 🤷🏻♂️ I kind of look through the annoying tyre graphics.
In the Design world this is called "banner blindness", and it's super common!
I really liked how they showed FLIR thermographic images of tires at some races that was useful and interesting..
I absolutely miss this. That is huge info especially for blistering which I feel we have seen a lot less.
Teams felt it was unfair, giving away vital information about camber and tyre performance
I missed that too, it's satisfying to look at
@@joshtiel2980 blistering is gone though.
What if they could also visualize the turbulence?
Amazing job on accurately recreating the old graphics with today’s driver info.
I had Jos Verstappen flash backs.
Deja vu seeing Kubica P12 while leading someone😂(yes, I know he isn't a rookie
Albon is leading the race too
@@hkr667 same 😂
I dropped the resolution of the video too to approximate watching it on an old TV. It really shows why they needed to keep the graphics minimal and chunky
"you could spot a change in order, even if it didn't happen on screen" .... (which it mostly doesn't)
I look forward to a time when I can choose what part of the grid I want to see (plus rewinds), but I think linear television will be with us for many years yet
@@Septimus_ii I believe an F1TV subscription gives you feeds from multiple cameras
@@ivan_pozdeev_u you can watch the TV feed, a pitlane camera and on-board from any driver (this last one is cut when the car is in the garage or when a crash happened and there's no confirmation of the driver being ok).
OK, a few things, because this is a subject I am hugely knowledgeable about:
- There was a set used sporadically between 1991 and 1993, mainly for European races.
- The changes you refer to at 1:53 were made in 2001, not 2002, and sometimes featured a driver's first initial as well, as part of the changing solutions to the problem of two Schumachers.
- F1Digital+ feeds existed between 1997 and 2002, and their own graphics only came in in 1999.
- "Count down the laps with us" was a thing of its time. Indeed, now, I tend to have the opposite problem of "how many laps to go?"
- Race control messages still - to this day - don't have the driver name on the timing screens. Between 2004 and, I think, 2010 or 2011, they were simply a copy-paste of the timing screen.
- 5:33 - the splash screens had already existed by 1996.
- 6:52 - the 2009 changes were simply adding a light filter along the top half of the graphic, which was all the rage until about 2015 or 2016. Look at Sky's own graphics - this was a trait they kept until the Nomad redesign in 2017.
- 6:58 - a separate 4:3 and 16:9 graphics feed existed for a long time (until 2014, I believe). The UK actually didn't switch over to the 16:9 feeds until 2012, as the "digital switchover" hadn't been completed yet.
- 8:00 - by 2013, everything was in a straight vertical stack.
- 10:20 - the timing tower was moved to the left from China 2017 onwards.
My personal favourite package was the 2004-09 set, although the 2015 set, which I didn't like at first, hugely grew on me and by 2017 I was sorry to see it go. I hate the 2018 set, they look clunky and like something out of a video game, although I suppose that fits Liberty's brand of gimmicky flashy colours a bit more than the glamorous professionalism of Bernie Ecclestone.
Calculating Striking Distance is similar to Microsoft's 'Time left to Copy' a particular file
I lost it at 11:47 that was so funny and unexpected, Chain Bear not only makes super interesting videos but also has a great humor, just awesome job.
I liked that they've finally started putting the live speeds in both KPH and MPH.
All I want to see is the live G force!
And an onboard brake/throttle telemetry that is ACTUALLY synced
Live g force and thermal cameras were the best.
They can be used as an F1 equivalent to fidget spinners. Boring race? throw in some live G force with a ball that dances around a graph.
Yeah we have the cars with the biggest cornering g's in history and they decide to remove the accelerometer
Well they're back in 2020
Loved the way the silver boxes flipped around on the 2000s graphics.
Same
The “lap counter” that counted down wasn’t a lap counter, but a counter telling how many laps were left to go.
Then it should have said “X laps to go.
I loved the '1994' graphics and still enjoy them when watching old races.
I really like the intro to the country/city, the combination of that, Crofty's voice and the F1 theme gives be a hard-on every race weekend.
I believe the reason the lap counter counted DOWN was because, in the days of refuelling, it was seen as important to see how many laps were left, rather than how many had gone by.
For instance, if somebody pitted and you could see that there were 38 laps to go, you could reasonably work out there and then if they'd need 1 more stop or 2.
7:40
6 R KUBICA 59
7 L HAMILTON 59
8 N ROSBERG 56
...:c
I see wut how kubica ahead of Hamilton?
@@djagplayings if you got the data from a few years back then it was pretty normal. Kubica was finishing in the top 5 pretty much every race and Hamilton just debuted. Kubica is not a bad driver perse and he is seen as a recklessly fast driver in pretty much every motorsport he competes in. When he was at 100%, he was pretty much at the same level as Saintz and Norris. He was obviously less talented than Hamilton, Vettel or Verstappen but he could hold his own in the top 5. In the winter testing, he also showed that he still can post good laps.
It was a better time...
Master Drive
Hamilton didn't just debut lol, this was from 2010, Webber was leading the championship, and Kubica was very impressive. Come to think of it, this may have been from after the Monaco GP, before Hamilton won a race that season
@@djagplayings different times
2021 AWS prediction: Hamilton will win this race.
I mean the 2021 cars will probably be the near the exact same as the 2020 cars so it really depends on 2020
Ur not wrong tho
He won Bahrain, placed 2nd in Emilia Romagna, won again in Portugese and won again in Spain
@@parvp4529 and then won again in britain outright (because he was the only 'fast' car on the track after a controversial incident between him and max)
@@somerandominternetuser9172 Russia, Brazil, Qatar, Saudi Arabia
The new F1 visual identity has grown on me a lot but I'd love to see a reboot of the 90s graphics, even just for one race weekend.
They should go back tot he 2008 Graphics for the last Interlagos Grand Prix, a little tribute to that great track and that brilliant finale
The 90s style graphics should be an option for F1 TV subscribers, just like choosing the commentary language is
07:02 Anyone remembers 600kg race cars? Oh and Kubica on 4th
And this was only 2009. Cars looked so different even then. I guess refueling changed them.
Prins van Oranje Agreed, they are waaaay too big nowadays 🙄
@@markhenley3097 Also the extra weight of safety features and hybrid systems.
600kg cars was great but ooh boy qualifying on race fuel was a huge blunder
@@uhlnd-tnny2983 yeah, tooooo big. How can they race if they are almost twice a size of 2000 cars? I understand safety, bu then, make other parts smaller. FIA could easily just force on teams to make smaller cars and they would make them.
I started watching live races regularly in 1995 when terrestrial television in Ireland was able to broadcast them. So I remember those graphics very well. They were simple but very effective and imo never looked outdated. To me they were very modern. But the onboard shots with telemetry in the mid 2000s were my favourite.
Did RTÉ broadcast F1, or no? I watch it on Channel 4
There's one more curiosity about the graphics before 1994: Every time the current standings or the fastest lap graphics had to be shown, the text was written in the language of the country hosting the Grand Prix. As far as I've seen, it could come up in English, Spanish, French, Italian, German and Portuguese. The only exception I believe was the Japanese Grand Prix; the average F1 fan probably couldn't read katakana back then.
"Ferrari throwing away a win" - some things don't change!
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Totally agree, 2015 package is truly the best
Also they added the permanent side tower to show driver positions in 2017, sadly the last year before the big rebrand
I just recently got into F1 after watching the Netflix series on it. I've been a big NASCAR fan for almost 2 decades and I have to say your channel has really helped me understand a lot of things it would have taken me a lot longer to figure out on my own.
Thanks.
13:22 SHOT FIRED SHOTS FIRED
As a Ferrari fan this really hurt actually
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Oh as a Finn i remember Ä being AE or Æ so HAEKKINEN
Great video as usual, Chain Bear. As a medium level old man (41), I knew the graphics and info had come a long way but I hadn't appreciated by how much (and where things had kind of gone the wrong way).
I well remember as a kid the early 80's where you got the top six or eight bang in the middle of the screen obscuring the track action and you sometimes got fastest lap info, gap information or driver info updates,, all of it in the race's host country language. Can't read Portuguese? Your problem, viewer, you'll just have to guess whether we told you Gerhard Berger's either just set fastest lap or retired from the race, because the TV director hasn't switched away from Nelson Piquet running around on his own for 12 laps! :)
I just wish Formula E would adopt the team colors in the timing tower.
Honestly the Formula E graphics, in terms of the timing board, is terrible
@@bilalrazaq8522 the drivers names are way too small. But I like the attack mode graphic
Can you do the f1 logo itself . That classic guitar intro was iconic for my sunday afternoons
edmundscycles1 you mean The Chain by Fleetwood Mac
@@Racing_Fox oh no the FIA logo intro
@@Racing_Fox ua-cam.com/video/qgiBkydMW8k/v-deo.html
Speaking of on-screen graphics, at first I was like "Damn that BenQ monitor looks crisp" and I'm ashamed to admit how long it took me to realise its a green-screen haha nice idea CB, looks great!
3:26 Damn this brings back memories... I was like 7 yo back then but i can still remember these graphics.
Althogh they used this graphic style till 2010 so it may not be 2004 exactly
Seeing those graphics sends me back to 2004 staying awake late at night watching Speed Channel in the US
11:47 haven't laughed this hard in a while
So accurate
AAAAAAH IT'S THE FACE AGAIN
Edit: I like the face
I agree. Simply graphics are much better.
The face ruins the "magic" 🙄
UHLND-TNNY the face and the graphics are the magic 👍
The overtaking difficulty and the tyre graphics are just so stupid.
Why?
@@quack9694 Well some AI making up a difficulty for an overtake won't be accurate because there is different drivers and cars and their performance changes all the time. Also it adds nothing to the expirience of watching a race. And that tyre graphic is not accurate. Teams usually don't even know how much is left in the tyres.
@@quack9694 neither are accurate. They just post random figures that the gullible casual will believe thus them having false knowledge of the sport. Also did i mention that theyre inaccurate?
@@alexm.s4000 whenever i see "striking distance in 6 laps" is always say to myself
5 laps then. I like the idea of striking distance, but why do they always seem a single lap off?
@@freewyvern707 not even! Remember lewis in hungary? They said he'll catch max on the final lap.... caught him like 5 laps earlier 😂
I love that you went to the bother to put sun glare on the screen behind you.
I think it would be really cool to have a sort of companion app with the graphics generated from all of the data. Keeps the screen clear but you can still access live timing, current tires choices, stint lengths, and other interesting information. I really like anything that would help me to keep track of battles that aren't on screen. (When those were more common 😁)
i remember the lap counter being burnt into our screen every monday lol
What a great nostalgia trip, to when I used to watch F1 as a kid with my dad!
If you haven't already seen it, you should look into the 1979 Argentinian Grand Prix. Not only did we get a trackmap on screen during the formation lap, but someone in the TV broadcast department was manually tracking the position of the cars "live" and updating the position of a blob on the trackmap. The results were...mixed.
Always great thank you. Ahem NordVPN might need to keep a slightly lower profile until they resolve how they got hacked...
It's very much known how they got hacked; a server in Finland was accessed without authorisation via a remote monitoring utility left in place by the data centre.
Vulnerabilities exist in all organisations in varying magnitudes. The bigger issue is how they handled the entire situation at the time! It occurred in Mar-18 and instead of being publicly open about it back then, they kept quiet!! It's highly unlikely that we would no about it at all if it wasn't for the investigative research that TechCrunch did which forced them to publicly acknowledge the incident. For me that's far worse as it's essentially a betrayal of trust!
What a video! This took me back ❤️ not going to lie miss the fact they don't show which tyres everyone is on anymore 😢 that was so helpful and I was kind of hoping you'd put the micro sectors they had in quali for a bit, but guess it was more of a race graphic type thing, either way love these history of videos!!
Great video, I've always found on-screen graphics important for the aesthetics of the sport. Which is why I'm not a fan of post-2009 graphics. Basically I find the pre-2004 graphics to be the best. Back then, the race came out more mythical and awe-inspiring in part due to the simpler graphics. I like not knowing too many details. It makes the sport more human and less robotic.
Actually, there are some mistakes:
- the flag indicators were already existing im F1 Digital, with yellow circles. Safety Car got orange circle, and for the red flag we've had huge red circles.
- Introduction splash was already existing earlier in F1 Digital as well.
- G-Force meter was already existing in 2005, it was only improved in 2007 to the version you've shown at 6:24
- I think we've already had starting tyres back in 2007, but I'm not sure.
Great material anyway!
Good points. Amazingly, F1Digital had "Safety Car Standby" graphics aswell: one circle orange, one circle yellow. Attention to detail!
too much information? No. Too much "information" pulled out of their arses? Yes.
I love the 91-93 graphics was hoping you’d comment on those, 94-03 is iconic though, will always be the F1 graphic for me 😄
I would love a Game-like Minimap!
The memories this bring back, 1994 is when I started watching F1 on TV, thank you, cool video.
Gotta love that 90s graphics, I can hear Murray and Martin Brundle now
Watching this video makes me realise how long I’ve been watching F1 for. Great video CB !
I love the reference to Fi from Zelda Skyward Sword! Never thought I'd be seeing that referred to ever.
When? What is it? How did he convey it?
@@Hans5958 12:59 you can't miss it :)
@@fiddle_n i never play zelda before
The timing graphic which was added in the mid 2000s and updated as a driver crossed the line really added tension that modern graphics just don’t give you. For example in Brazil 2008 when Hamilton passed Glock and you weren’t quite sure weather Hamilton passed Glock to seal the world title until he crossed the line
4:16 nice to see Sainz and Perez both starting P10
By the same logic, both Hamilton and Grosjean started P4
1. VET
2. BOT
4. VER
4. HAM
4. GRO
7. LEC
7. STR
8. NOR
9. ALB
10. SAI
10. PER
13. KUB
This video is S O G O O D it's a real visual pleasure and I can't even imagine how hard it was to recreate all the graphics in After Effects
13:18 Accurate
Don't get me wrong, but your voice makes me go to sleep faster than anything when I watch your videos. Especially when I'm sleepy in the middle of the night. I love your content and I have been watching them all since last year. I just wanted you to know that your voice is very calming :)
Love the video ! VFX tip: When you key the green screen, don't forget to despill the green reflection on your glasses ;)
Jonathan J. When was this? :)
09:57 the way you said "mini map" appropriately quickly was rather pleasing.
Mnimap 😂
This video brings so much nostalgia 😌
Yeah, I miss those V8 era graphics
Just a small note about your sponsor Nordvpn. They got hacked last year and one of their servers was able to pull the data of a person using Nordvpn. Nord knew this was happening but was very late in responding to this and its very obvious they spend most of their money in marketing rather than ACTUAL internet security. Just some info you might not have known about your sponsor chainbear. Its worth going into and a few other Nordvpn sponsors have dropped them. (not because of the data breach, but how they reacted to the data breach) its worth looking into.
@13:17 Called Monaco 2022 right there.
I actually preferred the scrolling position counter, it didn’t get in the way which is a REALLY big issue nowadays.
I really preferred the laps counting down instead of up. It's much more useful to know how many laps you have left instead how many are done. Yes, you can count it both ways, but still the counting down was more convenient.
It might be more useful for the drivers, but it's not at all convenient for spectators.
For us, knowing how many laps are left isn't really important until the last few laps, at which point we can easily calculate it ourselves. That's the only real advantage of counting-down I can think of, while everything else would be much more suited to counting-up.
Great video! Absolutely loved it. F1 graphics actually developed over the time. I remember these old ones of the 90s when I grew up and became a big fan of this sport. Never had the chance of getting digital TV at that time. I always loved these blue ones by F1 Digital. When I got my digital TV it was 2003 - one year too late.
While the graphics since 2018 are really great, my favorite time was from 2010 on.
"The Starting graphics made you think the Haas boys were going to kill you"
Stopped watching in 2005 and came back watching in 2019 and the first thing I said to my friend was "whoa the laps now count up" xD
I liked when they had the thermal cameras on the tyres
This must have been an insane amount of work. Thanks for the nostalgia :)
i wish they'd bring back the 1994 graphics just for one race this season, 30 years later
Wonderful to see these graphics again! I liked the thermal camera showing the tyre temperature, which had patches of black and white and colours overlaid on the tyres!
I spot a bit of "augmented reality" in this video, ha!
One thing I miss is the new and used tires icon. Whenever I saw a team put on old supers, I wondered if they would make it to the end.
I liked when they displayed the microsectors during qualifying
vigotski I did wonder why micro sectors didn’t get a mention. Was it only for 1 Grand Prix they ran that graphic?
@vigotski
I don't even remember that. How did it look?
I personally got to focus on the graphic and found it distracting. Started just looking at the graphic and not the cars. But I guess we all got our own taste.
ruined the excitement, it would be fine if they quickly showed it after the lap ended tho
@@avada0 In qualifying, there where small boxes beneath the driver's name and laptime (at the bottom of the screen), and they would be colour-coded (green for personal best, yellow for not improving etc). Apparently it messed up some parts of the graphics or timing code and it was never tried again (or at least that's the story I've read).
As a graphics geek who tweets to review every package update, this is my favourite video ever
Bring back cameras showing temperatures...
You've missed the early 90s' Olivetti graphics, which included some as the 1994 ones...
I think anything "Powered by AWS" goes beyond a pinch of salt!!
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Why should anyone pay for the broadcast, only for someone to try and sell something to them during the race?
@@R6VIIshooter Dafuq you are being ridiculous. Literally every sport with sponsorship has this exact goal.
@@hkr667 I can see the sponsorship on the boards and cars. I don't need Crofty saying "probability of overtake powered by aws" because it takes me out of the action. It comes across as tacky and ham fisted.
7:58 It has resemblance of its GT counterpart, the FIA GT1 World Championship's on-screen graphics.
Something I've wanted to know since 2001: at 2:30 What was the point of the shaded bars above the drivers name??
looks nice I guess
I've been wondering about that forever too, I guess that was just an aesthetic choice. Compliments the yellow and black numbers well.
Interestingly they were not part of the package when it was introduced in 1994.
ur videos help me through rough times, they're engaging and help distract me, tysm
I look forward to injecting analytical data into my vein, lap by lap
As well, that sponsorship from NordVPN is an ouchie, considering their recent disclosing of a data breach.
Gale banks, much like you, is such a data junkie he injects through IV directly into the vains :P
I enjoyed watching the video to watch seeing the evolution history and now the speed at which it changes. Thanks!
Boy i Loved the old graphics, That was enough Information
Loved the video! Great work with the editing, as always.
Love from the US.
could you fix the animation on your screen please? the bigger wheel should spin slower than the 2 small gears
Still hoping we'll get a follow up video talking about the 2022 graphics! Some interesting pros and cons to go over for sure
I hate it when the speedometer text switches to red, so hard to read :(
Those graphics look a bit like those which were used in the german football Bundesliga.
Edit 3:26
That lap counter counting down to zero is absolutely nostalgic for me, it reminds me these times that 5 year old me supporting raikkönen for him on 2007
I liked the lap countdown more... I find it more useful to know how many laps drivers have left to catch the next car than knowing how many laps had been raced.
When you have to compute tires life and pitstops, it sometimes get confusing !
I like the laps counting down too
Oh my god you have a plush "This is fine" dog. I love it.
I grew up with the yellow boxes as an F1 fan. I still like those the best
3:02 Hamilton with penalty? 😂
I love the old from 94 to the 2000s added a suspense waiting for the driver to pass the parcial to show the information