Another aspect to Big Time Spider-man that could be seen as a trap: He needs the full Infestation team on War defense to get Charged and actually be a threat. I have seen a lot of defenses of late where one or more of the Infestation team has been swapped out, or he's used as a filler character with another team. He's pretty much pointless in those circumstances and better off taken off of defense and used for a situational offensive needs at that point.
Yes oml is more powerful than Cyclops but a lot of the synergy of xtreme comes from him. Cyclops is basically the keystone of the team, you are better off removing sunspot. Much more like for like characters really.
Human Torch sucks in general. I have tried using him several times and he is ALWAYS the first character to fall and it is always WAY TOO SOON into the match. I have used characters weaker than him and they worked SIGNIFICANTLY better than him.
i remember when he said carnage was the resource trap on hive mind and not venom because "if you're in a fight where you cant get the speedboost from taking them down because theres only a few enemies then he really brings your team down"
What should i gear up for dd4 non legend cosmic i currently gearing gladiator, thanos end, gorr and void knight ( i have the other 2 annihilators but idk if its worth)
Dang I like cyclops over sunspot I also feel like venom might get a rework down the road I also see people use quicksilver instead of scarlett witch on the darkhold team but I don't think that works like people think it does but I'm probably wrong what do I know VALLEY great video man 👍
Keep putting ultimus in your arena d teams and I’ll keep using silver surfer and smashing them. Ultimus is the bottom of the pile on Annihilation, pure luxury and used in very specific attacks where you know his ult will be useful. Complete trap character.
Meh. Some people say "not an early player list" but I m going to add that this is a perfect list for non spenders on character offers for characters TO build if you are like me and sitting on 210mil gold, 120 gold orb (4 mega gold orbs), so much training materials and T4s etcetera but you have nothing to build. All solid characters particularly with "wide roster events" being more and more prevalent. We get so much gold and resources now but with mystery time frames on when characters will be unlocked and months before those unlocks .... basically I can day 1 unlock characters and it would impact my resources by a very minimum amount. I have Moon Knight but before that... New Warriors ? Wakanda? A force? Or this lost you created? I have no regrets for building them. Obviously the new characters are always better but first you have to unlock them.
Older toons arent worth anyway. Reworked toons most have 10m hp and 600k damage while older toons hang around 2,5m hp and 200k damage. What are they suppose to do agains new teams anyway?
Silver Surfer doesn't even need T4s invested into him. He is worth a G18 and lvl 100 just for War purposes. Agree on Ares. He's ass and mines I'm sure is 5 reds and 6 yellows. Only good in War Agree on both Cyclops and Venom two toons i no longer use. Venom i never took to lvl 100 and he still lvl 95. I felt zero need to T4 his special and ult as well. Quick Silver 100% fell off and he not worth 5-7 reds. Mines is still 4 reds and does just fine as a plug and play.
I don't think Ares is a horrible character, I enjoy his kit and I leveled him up to do the story missions, but that will probably be it. I do use him on some crucible offense teams when its a lower powered team i'm facing and don't need a legit team to take them down. Also I have completely skipped Alpha flight, my alliance doesn't try to 100% the spotlight raids, so there's no need and I like Alpha Flight as a comic and disappointed they were released then quickly left behind in terms of importance. As much as I love Cyclops in the comics and my fav X-men. Strike Force and Marvel Snap really did him dirty imo. Maybe he can move over to a House of X team but likely he will go in the bin.
This whole video is a trap, he just doesn't want you to upgrade these characters and take over the number 1 spot in arena. That's it, I'm fully upgrading them all and putting them on my arena team. Nice try!
Nobody listen to this goof... All these characters are worth it to the right person.. 1st of for Surfer, if ppl dont have other Annihilators they're using him.. The same can be said for every single character on this list.. Not everybody has every single character unlocked like this goof who writes off spending on every character & every other dollar he spends in game.. With that said if ppl dont have certain characters unlocked they might have to use these and any of these can 1000% be useful...
Ultimus is deffo not a trap, he used to be but hes a beast now , hes basically an insta delete to anyone with buffs, iv one tapped people with ultimus that even Apocs falcon punch couldnt one shot 😅
Trap in this context is characters that seem like a good investment but are actually not. SS and Ares are considered traps because they are in the newer meta but not very valuable. Doom, Ultron, Dorm are no longer meta so they aren't "traps" because there's no reason to build them to begin with. The "bait" is being released or reworked recently.
Thoses are endgame tips. I personnaly needed Ares and quicksilver in a lot of places cause I don't have Superskrull and above.
I'm reading this as level 90 plus or t16 or higher
You still don't need ares
Another aspect to Big Time Spider-man that could be seen as a trap: He needs the full Infestation team on War defense to get Charged and actually be a threat. I have seen a lot of defenses of late where one or more of the Infestation team has been swapped out, or he's used as a filler character with another team. He's pretty much pointless in those circumstances and better off taken off of defense and used for a situational offensive needs at that point.
Yes oml is more powerful than Cyclops but a lot of the synergy of xtreme comes from him. Cyclops is basically the keystone of the team, you are better off removing sunspot.
Much more like for like characters really.
relatively new to the game. Very first guy he brings up is the guy ive gone all out with haha. Silver surfer
Silver Surfer is very powerful when low and mid tier.
Human Torch sucks in general. I have tried using him several times and he is ALWAYS the first character to fall and it is always WAY TOO SOON into the match. I have used characters weaker than him and they worked SIGNIFICANTLY better than him.
Not me seeing Ares in the thumbnail after buying every pass with him and having him at GT19, L2 Purple 💀
I was just buying the BP's for the dark promo creds, but i dont think ares is horrible, but def not worth a full investment.
@@detroitarrow794 Ares in war offense against BK? BK is dead. That is worth it for me.
i remember when he said carnage was the resource trap on hive mind and not venom because "if you're in a fight where you cant get the speedboost from taking them down because theres only a few enemies then he really brings your team down"
The nice thing about Ultimus is that his diamonds are super cheep.
I use ares with cabal to take down out of time in war
Can you please make a video with the character we absolutely need to up ? :)
I thought I would regret bringing surfer into dd7 because I did not have the osmium for Vahl. He actually does pretty good with the 3 other s + kang
Just started to getting your feed again nice to see you I'll keep smashing iy😁💯👍
Quicksilver really needs Brotherhood and X-Factor tags.
What should i gear up for dd4 non legend cosmic i currently gearing gladiator, thanos end, gorr and void knight ( i have the other 2 annihilators but idk if its worth)
Is there a way to max stars on Nova without investing in a trap character (Quicksilver) or a trash character (Absorbing Man, X-Force)?
Dang I like cyclops over sunspot I also feel like venom might get a rework down the road I also see people use quicksilver instead of scarlett witch on the darkhold team but I don't think that works like people think it does but I'm probably wrong what do I know VALLEY great video man 👍
Keep putting ultimus in your arena d teams and I’ll keep using silver surfer and smashing them. Ultimus is the bottom of the pile on Annihilation, pure luxury and used in very specific attacks where you know his ult will be useful. Complete trap character.
great list. thank you
Venom is my favorite marvel character so he goes to the moon.
Meh. Some people say "not an early player list" but I m going to add that this is a perfect list for non spenders on character offers for characters TO build if you are like me and sitting on 210mil gold, 120 gold orb (4 mega gold orbs), so much training materials and T4s etcetera but you have nothing to build. All solid characters particularly with "wide roster events" being more and more prevalent. We get so much gold and resources now but with mystery time frames on when characters will be unlocked and months before those unlocks .... basically I can day 1 unlock characters and it would impact my resources by a very minimum amount. I have Moon Knight but before that... New Warriors ? Wakanda? A force? Or this lost you created? I have no regrets for building them. Obviously the new characters are always better but first you have to unlock them.
have fun at the wedding in New Jersey!
I didn't take Ultimus to the moon but I do regret putting anything into him cause he got dropped of my arena team quickly.
I build cyclop to the sun, he is the leader of my x-men.
I feel targeted. LOL. I just brought up Quicksilver and Ultimus to G19.
Yikes!!
Older toons arent worth anyway. Reworked toons most have 10m hp and 600k damage while older toons hang around 2,5m hp and 200k damage. What are they suppose to do agains new teams anyway?
This is the only game with more than three Black characters. Is it worth while to make an all Black team?
War dogs can be a decent team, it isnt meta but its a good start if your f2p and early game (until about level 65)
Silver Surfer doesn't even need T4s invested into him. He is worth a G18 and lvl 100 just for War purposes.
Agree on Ares. He's ass and mines I'm sure is 5 reds and 6 yellows. Only good in War
Agree on both Cyclops and Venom two toons i no longer use. Venom i never took to lvl 100 and he still lvl 95. I felt zero need to T4 his special and ult as well.
Quick Silver 100% fell off and he not worth 5-7 reds. Mines is still 4 reds and does just fine as a plug and play.
QS better on war offense with inferior six to take out infestation rather than using that echo trash
Wish they would give us a new code it's been a minute
No it hasn’t
So
@@Timothystrunk-h9s so wdym it’s been a minute
@@conflictedomega7562 just would be nice to get a good code from the game that's all
If you have surfer at 98 just do 100 🤣
me seeing this after getting my silver surfer to 1.04m power
I don't think Ares is a horrible character, I enjoy his kit and I leveled him up to do the story missions, but that will probably be it. I do use him on some crucible offense teams when its a lower powered team i'm facing and don't need a legit team to take them down. Also I have completely skipped Alpha flight, my alliance doesn't try to 100% the spotlight raids, so there's no need and I like Alpha Flight as a comic and disappointed they were released then quickly left behind in terms of importance. As much as I love Cyclops in the comics and my fav X-men. Strike Force and Marvel Snap really did him dirty imo. Maybe he can move over to a House of X team but likely he will go in the bin.
Yeet!!!
Quicksilver is a beast. He still has value.
Guardian sucks than Sunfire
Venom is the best MFS character, hands down. He'll be worth it with Knull coming... im sure of it
The value of cyclops goes down even when you put rouge in his spot for Xtreme X-men
Ultimus is great dont think he should have been on this list
This whole video is a trap, he just doesn't want you to upgrade these characters and take over the number 1 spot in arena. That's it, I'm fully upgrading them all and putting them on my arena team. Nice try!
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤑🤑🤑🤑
How about you upgrade whatever character you want to
Nobody listen to this goof... All these characters are worth it to the right person.. 1st of for Surfer, if ppl dont have other Annihilators they're using him.. The same can be said for every single character on this list.. Not everybody has every single character unlocked like this goof who writes off spending on every character & every other dollar he spends in game.. With that said if ppl dont have certain characters unlocked they might have to use these and any of these can 1000% be useful...
If you think Ares is a trap you should quit content creation. I’m assuming it’s clickbait as it always is, not even going to watch.
But you still take time to comment so... bye 🎉
Ares passive beats most war teams. He is needed to end up high in war
Pretty disingenuous to show irrelevant characters like Ultron Dorm and Doom costing 90 pieces and you call Ultimus the trap lol
Ultimus is deffo not a trap, he used to be but hes a beast now , hes basically an insta delete to anyone with buffs, iv one tapped people with ultimus that even Apocs falcon punch couldnt one shot 😅
Hes also CHEAP to get to 3 diamonds
Trap in this context is characters that seem like a good investment but are actually not. SS and Ares are considered traps because they are in the newer meta but not very valuable. Doom, Ultron, Dorm are no longer meta so they aren't "traps" because there's no reason to build them to begin with. The "bait" is being released or reworked recently.
@stuartkeen2967 agree here. He isn't a waste especially since you can bring him into DD for mythic.