Many years ago in Montreal, I played Dave 1 a beat of mine, which in hindsight was mediocre at best, yet he was very positive and supportive in his interaction with me. He even said my snare was good lol. Didn’t want to let a kid down. Super cool guy.
Been away a very long time and never heard of these guys, but watching carefully their dynamic and how they correct one another or interject their ideas abruptly without hesitation or resistance was fascinating. They work like an almost perfect symbiosis. No ego, just the goal of making a dope track. Beautiful.
We need more content like this constantly bro. I really like how you condense this long Twitch live into a more digest content. Thanks you for that! 🙌🏽
Use loops. Open daw. Find drum break. And chop it up to one shots and chop it with a groove It’s the same like a drummer But beefier. Oh let’s just keep the over head drums for high hat grooves are human Stacks kick snd snare slight swing Banger made. ⚡️🔥
and should stop. Let the drummer be. Go play with a machine. Stop cutting up drums, and learn how to engineer actual drum sounds not given to you in a box, pre made. Little skill level.
@@morbidmanmusic I actually do. But as a mixing engineer , drum replacement programs that beef up the live drums help makes the record sound more polish especially if one shots are ran through expensive high end analog gear which I can’t afford. Why should I just leave the drum track naked and make the client feel he or she can’t get the quality they deserve with the budget they spent? Let me say this.. listen to anderson paak album/ Bruno Mars They use live drums with this same concept Stack drums and breaks and the best engineers will tell you the secret is in the drum replacement and ghosting So it’s not anything offensive to say this is used I. Mixing sorry mate Welcome to 2021 😆
@@donventura2116 bingo Sound design Even using high end one shots help the mix to the overall song cause most clients can’t afford to record a drummer and have it edit and mixed down The times changes
@@morbidmanmusic how is programming drums more difficult than chopping drums? Im just curious as to how they're actually any more difficult than the other or display any higher degree of skill.
Dude i should thanks UA-cam Algorithm for providing such gems And i MUST thanks you for giving us these videos, thanks for taking the time to do it, it's so valuable ♥♥
That's funny. I know a guy who played for the gap band, worked with him at guitar center for years, the only reason he works there is for the factory price discount, lolll. Great producer, he taught me a lot.
Thumbs up - Good tutorial - I'm a seasoned producer so this video isn't teaching me anything new, yetI really like Chromeo and seeing them produce is interesting for me.
If I only heard the last part of this video without looking anything, I would have said Gap Band immediately (that high hat is unmistakeable!). Nice work guys (Sol State and Chromeo).
i kinda agree with them... pre-made loops and sample packs are boring... its one of the reasons so much music sounds the same these days make your own sounds... be original and individual
They copied the loop actually. Which sounds better imho. But you won't hear that at the end because of levels mismatch with the bass. But if you go back when they first played you hear it much better. It's much more rounder and compact sounding while still having depth. And not a steriel kick in front of the mix and snare somewhere in a room in the back feeling detached from each other.
@@DixieWreck69 HINT: if you use other peoples loops then just copy those loops with worse recording techniques.. you're still making someone else's song. Crazy right?
Maybe a noob question. At 6:05 when they talk about taking single drum samples from records, is there copyright issues with this? or is taking a single sound too little of a copyright to be noticed?
Personally I quite liked the sound when you played the bass with the original loops, but I really appreciate the work that went in, and maybe when you added the keys it would have drowned the drums a bit, and you needed the beefier sound of the new drums
Hmmm. I don't full agree about the loop thing. Personally I mostly use hihat loops for grooves. Then rest programmed. Because it can be really hard to get fast hihat groove. For sure it is important to create a unique beat however. But don't feel like you can't use splice loops at all lol. But yeah, you get the point.
7:24 me with my boys slamin' spoons on aluminum plates in a jar. The boys are hungry, comrade major 7:57 add an extra hi-hat, speed it up and you've got Thundercat- Them Changes intro beat
3:14 thats so not true, i guess it heavily depends on your workflow, that you have less control over loops and it might be difficult to fit them into their track once its been laid out, but I would never agree on what theyre saying about loops there at 3:14, you can easily find great drum loops with great flow and dynamics, which you can create a track around.
They're saying that as musicians/producers their process is to make as much of their own sounds as possible - it's what makes their sound so recognizable. I'd imagine after 19 years of producing (Chromeo formed in 2002) it's easier for them make their own loops than try to fix the ones they use on demos. Considering their music and the equipment in their studio (there's a tour video on YT) you can tell that they just genuinely have fun patching and playing synths.
I think drum loops are almost always unusable, because even if the kick and snare like really gel together or are tonally relevant to the track, there's always something else thats missing, like the hihat is too loud of high frequency, or there isn't enough variation in the beat etc etc. also you can't process the individual hits seperately, unless you automate the EQ and the kick and snare don't hit on the same beat, and if you do it usually sounds bad due to the fidelity of the sample itself. so yeah they are good for getting an idea, but then your left to recreating said idea once your collaborator or vocalist is down with it.
Layering is the whole game! Yeah seriously, using ‘shitty’ sounding real stuff is the special sauce, especially when you’re using super clean sources like machines/samples. Every producer should have a hihat in their studio at least, no joke. Toss a 57 up on it, play it in. Even if your timing is off and you have to fix it. Just get some realness in there. If you don’t have a hihat, use a metal knife on something. Just get some real texture. 👌
So essentially they could have changed the velocity of the hi hat, layered a acoustic hat on top and had a 95% similar result with the first two initial loops? Work smart, not harder people - Unless you already have a discography and earn a living each month; by all means take the time if you enjoy it. Otherwise speed is key
Good point. You can optimize for speed or perfection. In this example, I think they did a good job adding energy to the groove and thump to the low end.
well they said speed was key when writing/composing the thing. Nothing wrong with going back into fine tweaking and sound design after most of the creative part is done
Programing your drums with your own transients is how you make a unique and original sound that actually gets listened to. IF you wanna make stock trash like this guy then rush through your work. IF you wanna be a musician/producer then program your drums.
@@badm.d Not true, the idea is more important. Whether you have used a recorded hi hat or a chopped up high hat loop: no one cares - Well except for you and your buddies circle jerking every Friday night, listening to your finely tuned transients.
Usually you'd want to sample something and use it in a way where no one is gonna know where it's originally from. Just because you are sampling it doesn't mean you shouldn't try to provide something new.
100% right about making sounds rather than using samples and loops that other people have made. why even make music if you arent actually making the sounds yourself
If the end product is good, who cares? And where do you draw the line on what you "make yourself"? Did you play it on a keyboard/synth? You just pushed a button and a sound someone else made is coming out. If you hand select a kick from some other source, you didn't make that either. If you smash a hammer on an actual kick drum and record it, did you make it then? Or did the manufacturer of the drum make it, and you're just recording what they made? Does this distinction really matter?
Using loops is cheating... let’s use the snares, and the claps, oh, and the hats. Lol. No hate here though, love Chromeo! Big fans in this house across all its generations.
@@itsnopez but that's just using regular drum samples at that point there's a difference between taking a sample and taking the entire drum pattern. everyone draws their own line on sampling. some only take individual notes or hits, some take entire portions, some will only record or synthesize their own samples and not use anything that someone else made. some people refuse to use computers and drum machines at all.
8:23 > The original beat has got more eight-notes on the hi hat. I would make that first high-pass hihat that was in the new beat, a little louder, to get more of the old-beat/old-school vibe. Really cool to hear how the loud, new hihat works in the new beat, though. . Loved the passage where the statement was ! Don't just use loop-stuff. Be creative, make it better, make it yours. :-) Thumbs up.
I try to mention wherever is most helpful to the artist. Chromeo's almost never on Twitch so I included their instagram. All artist links are in description too.
Kind of funny seeing supposedly professional producers getting all giddy over basic layering and boosting the lows on a kick. And who the hell mistakes 82hz for 82Khz?
Fun Fact: Dave 1 (the skinny guy from Chromeo) is A-Trak's brother.
Song ID = Princess Pouty by Ian Isiah (produced by Chromeo)
Dope track , reminded me of also how 24 karat magic by Bruno Mars is played
That makes a lot of sense.
@@SebastianEmes totally! good ear
Had no idea! that's ace
@@Jamieamusic and Armand Van Helden + A-trak = Duck sauce (who they mentioned in video).
Many years ago in Montreal, I played Dave 1 a beat of mine, which in hindsight was mediocre at best, yet he was very positive and supportive in his interaction with me. He even said my snare was good lol. Didn’t want to let a kid down. Super cool guy.
Been away a very long time and never heard of these guys, but watching carefully their dynamic and how they correct one another or interject their ideas abruptly without hesitation or resistance was fascinating. They work like an almost perfect symbiosis. No ego, just the goal of making a dope track. Beautiful.
We need more content like this constantly bro. I really like how you condense this long Twitch live into a more digest content. Thanks you for that! 🙌🏽
Thanks for the note, glad you're enjoying. Doing my best to stay consistent and bring you the BEST edu. it just takes a lot of time.
@@SolStateMusic Can't appreciate it enough Sol
This is gold
Use loops.
Open daw.
Find drum break.
And chop it up to one shots and chop it with a groove
It’s the same like a drummer
But beefier.
Oh let’s just keep the over head drums for high hat grooves are human
Stacks kick snd snare slight swing
Banger made. ⚡️🔥
and should stop. Let the drummer be. Go play with a machine. Stop cutting up drums, and learn how to engineer actual drum sounds not given to you in a box, pre made. Little skill level.
@@morbidmanmusic I actually do. But as a mixing engineer , drum replacement programs that beef up the live drums help makes the record sound more polish especially if one shots are ran through expensive high end analog gear which I can’t afford. Why should I just leave the drum track naked and make the client feel he or she can’t get the quality they deserve with the budget they spent?
Let me say this..
listen to anderson paak album/ Bruno Mars
They use live drums with this same concept
Stack drums and breaks and the best engineers will tell you the secret is in the drum replacement and ghosting
So it’s not anything offensive to say this is used I. Mixing sorry mate
Welcome to 2021 😆
@@donventura2116 bingo
Sound design
Even using high end one shots help the mix to the overall song cause most clients can’t afford to record a drummer and have it edit and mixed down
The times changes
@@morbidmanmusic how is programming drums more difficult than chopping drums? Im just curious as to how they're actually any more difficult than the other or display any higher degree of skill.
@@danielflecha4154 honestly I think it’s just different skills.
Ay nice they mentioned Oliver Heldens! He makes super funky stuff too, he’s like the chromeo of house music haha. Kinda fitting
this is the biggest gem ever i hope yall dont take this for granted and actually use this
Wow chromeo rocked LA BACK IN MY DAYS AND GLAD THESE GUYS MADE THIS VIDEO
Fan-cy FOOTWORK!
@@SolStateMusic hell yeah!!!
Oh man, these guys are so funky. Thanks for putting out your excellent edits of their tutorials.. Nuff respect!
Hey Richard! Thanks again!
You really find us the practical Jems! I’ve learned a lot watching, Thank you for your work.
This is a match made in heaven. None of them would be were they are if it wasn't for the other
Dude i should thanks UA-cam Algorithm for providing such gems
And i MUST thanks you for giving us these videos, thanks for taking the time to do it, it's so valuable ♥♥
Thanks, glad you like them!
These are some of the absolute best videos on music production on UA-cam. Thanks a ton for the huge amount of effort you put into each one.
Thanks, appreciate that! They really do take a lot of time, so i'm glad it's helping ya!
WAAAAAAAAAY better. Good job guys. you're killin it👌
This is the most I’ve heard P talk in years
😂😂😂
So happy to have discovered the Sol State channel.
This is the most insightful account I've ever come across. We appreciate you so much
Gee thanks 🙌 Tell a friend!
I needed this channel so much.
PUT A RECORD ON 🎶 Love the video as Always :D Thanks Sol State
Thanks mate!
Great video! Keep it up
Thanks will do! I aim for 1 video a week
That's funny. I know a guy who played for the gap band, worked with him at guitar center for years, the only reason he works there is for the factory price discount, lolll. Great producer, he taught me a lot.
Thumbs up - Good tutorial - I'm a seasoned producer so this video isn't teaching me anything new, yetI really like Chromeo and seeing them produce is interesting for me.
Thanks!
If I only heard the last part of this video without looking anything, I would have said Gap Band immediately (that high hat is unmistakeable!). Nice work guys (Sol State and Chromeo).
Thanks!
4:07 The kick is hitting at 82K???? 🤣 Don't mean to nitpick but that made me lol hard! Thanks for this amazing video BTW
Thanks for your vids, for the work
My pleasure!
i kinda agree with them... pre-made loops and sample packs are boring... its one of the reasons so much music sounds the same these days
make your own sounds... be original and individual
best comment
They copied the loop actually. Which sounds better imho. But you won't hear that at the end because of levels mismatch with the bass. But if you go back when they first played you hear it much better. It's much more rounder and compact sounding while still having depth. And not a steriel kick in front of the mix and snare somewhere in a room in the back feeling detached from each other.
couldn’t agree more, loops are boring and like they said, using them feels cheap. it doesn’t feel like “my” track if I’m using someone else’s loop
Be original.. by making a song with existing loops then just re-"recording" a couple parts. Be individual LOLOLOL
@@DixieWreck69 HINT: if you use other peoples loops then just copy those loops with worse recording techniques.. you're still making someone else's song. Crazy right?
damn sol state, thank you so much
You're welcome PEDRO!
Y’all are really good at explaining everything this vid helped so much 🙏
Thanks!
always killin it Sol State. Great video!
Super duper thanks!
This is absolutely amazing work with music! What an amazing piece of equipment you got there! Great work!
lol the old drums needed vitamins.
Gotta love it when producers refer to bass frequencies as 50k and 85k lol.
i love them so much!
Thanks so much for doing these Sol State 🙏
Ah, thanks! Hope its' helping ya
Maybe a noob question. At 6:05 when they talk about taking single drum samples from records, is there copyright issues with this? or is taking a single sound too little of a copyright to be noticed?
He's talking about taking a single sound, like a kick or snare from the actual record. Transients only. You can't get a copyright strike for that.
@@ramdor4 cheers man i couldn't actually find too much info on this so it means a lot
Best Twitch stream recap channel!!
Aw thank you Mark! Appreciate it
That was dope.
Personally I quite liked the sound when you played the bass with the original loops, but I really appreciate the work that went in, and maybe when you added the keys it would have drowned the drums a bit, and you needed the beefier sound of the new drums
Me too. Thought I was the only one.
Isn't chopping drum sounds from records a music rights issue?
82k?:)))Great video. Sometimes layering brings so much more flow to drumms.
Hmmm. I don't full agree about the loop thing. Personally I mostly use hihat loops for grooves.
Then rest programmed. Because it can be really hard to get fast hihat groove.
For sure it is important to create a unique beat however. But don't feel like you can't use splice loops at all lol.
But yeah, you get the point.
🙄where can I buy clean drmkits
why does the guy on the left remind me of the dad from Coraline
I generally trust all Cubase users! :D Good work
what synth is the bassline from?
7:24 me with my boys slamin' spoons on aluminum plates in a jar. The boys are hungry, comrade major
7:57 add an extra hi-hat, speed it up and you've got Thundercat- Them Changes intro beat
4:01 the kick is "really goin hard on the 5Ok, no excuse me 82k" K??? Hahah damn these dudes have some super sonic hearing!
Guess super-sonic hearing is what is takes to be a super-star these days 😉
@@SolStateMusic lol, guess you gotta be a dolphin or a bat or some shit nowadays 🤣
Nobody hears 80k 😂😂
@Byron LeeAfong that's the best part!
graphic eq...
Great info, but audio quality is bad coming from people that specialise in it?
Where was that video originally broadcasted on? I wanna see more of this!
Twitch, they only have 3 videos. This is heavily edited.
@@SolStateMusic I found that they are broadcasting this from their youtube channel
Did they take away folders in Cubase? ;)
3:14 thats so not true, i guess it heavily depends on your workflow, that you have less control over loops and it might be difficult to fit them into their track once its been laid out, but I would never agree on what theyre saying about loops there at 3:14, you can easily find great drum loops with great flow and dynamics, which you can create a track around.
They're saying that as musicians/producers their process is to make as much of their own sounds as possible - it's what makes their sound so recognizable. I'd imagine after 19 years of producing (Chromeo formed in 2002) it's easier for them make their own loops than try to fix the ones they use on demos.
Considering their music and the equipment in their studio (there's a tour video on YT) you can tell that they just genuinely have fun patching and playing synths.
Can hear it sounds wicked from the iPhone speaker! Awesome
That would be 82 HZ NOT 82K boys.....lol
I feel bad for you that your ears can't hear that high. Thats where the magic happens.
@@StephenAndrichuk lol shut up
@@StephenAndrichuk 😂🤣🤣
@@Jukau he was joking
Teach me fellas!!
I think drum loops are almost always unusable, because even if the kick and snare like really gel together or are tonally relevant to the track, there's always something else thats missing, like the hihat is too loud of high frequency, or there isn't enough variation in the beat etc etc. also you can't process the individual hits seperately, unless you automate the EQ and the kick and snare don't hit on the same beat, and if you do it usually sounds bad due to the fidelity of the sample itself. so yeah they are good for getting an idea, but then your left to recreating said idea once your collaborator or vocalist is down with it.
"If it sounds good it is good". That's my rule
This is amazing 🙏
Thank you!
Oh my. This is a great approach making own drum loops. Thanks man
Layering is the whole game! Yeah seriously, using ‘shitty’ sounding real stuff is the special sauce, especially when you’re using super clean sources like machines/samples. Every producer should have a hihat in their studio at least, no joke. Toss a 57 up on it, play it in. Even if your timing is off and you have to fix it. Just get some realness in there. If you don’t have a hihat, use a metal knife on something. Just get some real texture. 👌
Whats the name of the song ?
So essentially they could have changed the velocity of the hi hat, layered a acoustic hat on top and had a 95% similar result with the first two initial loops? Work smart, not harder people - Unless you already have a discography and earn a living each month; by all means take the time if you enjoy it. Otherwise speed is key
Tiny details matter cause in the end they are key to sound fresh and unique... shortcuts are for losers
Good point. You can optimize for speed or perfection. In this example, I think they did a good job adding energy to the groove and thump to the low end.
well they said speed was key when writing/composing the thing. Nothing wrong with going back into fine tweaking and sound design after most of the creative part is done
Programing your drums with your own transients is how you make a unique and original sound that actually gets listened to. IF you wanna make stock trash like this guy then rush through your work. IF you wanna be a musician/producer then program your drums.
@@badm.d Not true, the idea is more important. Whether you have used a recorded hi hat or a chopped up high hat loop: no one cares - Well except for you and your buddies circle jerking every Friday night, listening to your finely tuned transients.
2:28 so why sample???
Usually you'd want to sample something and use it in a way where no one is gonna know where it's originally from. Just because you are sampling it doesn't mean you shouldn't try to provide something new.
@@deadpeni5 thats not what he said...
Thanks guys
Chromeo = Criminaly Underated
how tf are they underrated
Where can I hear the song?
see pinned comment bro
Well they did basically use the drum loop but just layered one shots on top of it
Am I the only one that had to watch this like an old Japanese karate movie with the words not matching their lips??? Other than that, great video!!
Nothing like a great overdub. Will try to fix next time!
I like how the audio and video go out of sync on the stream, but their heads still nod on beat cause the delay is exactly one measure long
Haha that's why we call them the Funk Lords.
Yay....longwalkshortdock :)
Awww I miss MySpace days
100% right about making sounds rather than using samples and loops that other people have made. why even make music if you arent actually making the sounds yourself
If the end product is good, who cares? And where do you draw the line on what you "make yourself"? Did you play it on a keyboard/synth? You just pushed a button and a sound someone else made is coming out. If you hand select a kick from some other source, you didn't make that either. If you smash a hammer on an actual kick drum and record it, did you make it then? Or did the manufacturer of the drum make it, and you're just recording what they made?
Does this distinction really matter?
How do you get around copyright etc? Any tips for not risk being sued? :D
For using single hits? Not going to happen.
Cool video.....Cubase??Ahhhhhh Shyyyyt
do they ever mention Vaughn oliver mixing for them?
They mentioned Phillippe Zadar aka Cassius mixing for them at one point, not Oliver. But I'm pretty sure they share a studio space with Oliver
@@SolStateMusic vaughn oliver mixed their 3rd album, oligee produced almost all their songs in white women
God Daam these guys are good!
you were right. They make killer drums
Thanks
If you chop up the drum loop then I personally don’t care. I just prefer playing the drum samples in a drum machine or iPad BM3.
Do you recommend any good EDM drum tutorials?
People love this one from Disclosure:
ua-cam.com/video/e50an_umecA/v-deo.html
@@SolStateMusic thank you, your channel is dope 👌🏼👌🏼
Please release the disclosure remix? A man can dream. Great content as usual !
What song did they remix and where could I listen to it if they played it live lol
Haha oh man, I really should do that...
Thanks for the message
Using loops is cheating... let’s use the snares, and the claps, oh, and the hats. Lol.
No hate here though, love Chromeo! Big fans in this house across all its generations.
@@itsnopez but that's just using regular drum samples at that point
there's a difference between taking a sample and taking the entire drum pattern.
everyone draws their own line on sampling. some only take individual notes or hits, some take entire portions, some will only record or synthesize their own samples and not use anything that someone else made. some people refuse to use computers and drum machines at all.
@@itsnopez it's def funny, I do think they made the loop thump better and added more energy if you a/b it.
8:23 > The original beat has got more eight-notes on the hi hat.
I would make that first high-pass hihat that was in the new beat, a little louder,
to get more of the old-beat/old-school vibe.
Really cool to hear how the loud, new hihat works in the new beat, though.
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Loved the passage where the statement was !
Don't just use loop-stuff. Be creative, make it better, make it yours.
:-)
Thumbs up.
I thought we were all done with ‘smash the like button’ lol
Depends if you did it or not 😉
I guess the loop is Shane by George Duke
Hope your audio quality on your tracks is better than on the vid
We prefer 48 KBPS 😉
@@SolStateMusic haha. Fair play dude.
Great the Internet.
All the way from Liverpool to Cali. And back. All in less than a few hours👊
One love
Great to hear! Happy music making
Fuck yes! I love learning and watching these guys are Music
Are they controlling the same computer
Yes
Remember, these guys got to work with Daryl Hall and friends.
Bruno Mars vibes, holy hell
Why is the panning so f**ked up?
82k? Quite high for a kick :D
Haha, Chromeo, "the funk lords" have no rules
Cubase. Best DAW out there.
Smash It The Like Button
You should definitely include the artists' Twitch ID, or wherever they uploaded this, in the description. It's the decent thing to do.
I try to mention wherever is most helpful to the artist. Chromeo's almost never on Twitch so I included their instagram. All artist links are in description too.
@@SolStateMusic Cool 👍 I’ve subbed
@4:06 82k? Thats high lol 😂
Supersonic kicks 🚀
6:35
Kind of funny seeing supposedly professional producers getting all giddy over basic layering and boosting the lows on a kick. And who the hell mistakes 82hz for 82Khz?
Such a shame that the audio is so bad. I love these guys and would love to hear the nuances of what they do well.
❤
Have somebody dubbed them?
I edited the video a lot, so that's why...
That hat is making me hungry
Premade loops is weird i would rather go from scratch