Even though it’s a little chaotic letting the boys just talk in front of a board and trying to guide them w questions, which is impossible, this is great content
I have no idea what they're talking about. I watch agadmator's video, but can't follow what they're saying here. It's just way over my head. Chess speaks for itself!
I think if youre above like 1800 online you can genereally follow their analysis, not that you understand every line immediately but you get the point of their ideas and the flow of the game
Hans is just walking content. A nice moment to see these two remembering old games together, kind of sweet. Would be great to see this kind of thing after more games with different players, it’s fascinating, even if the lines are over our heads the interactions are priceless!
Nice , now I am hoping for both Hans and Hikaru to be paired and having this analysis board after the game :) 🍿🍿🍿 Edit: FIDE, you heard the people ... make it happen!
this feels like when two best friends in school are asked to do a presentation together and aren't taking it seriously, and i love it so much. "Maybe lichess would be better" lmao
Born so close, continents apart, and ending up before this board together, both being the main opponents of the best player (one accepted and one rejected), it' s no coincidence but a lovely case of synchronicity
@@FlagerMiszcz lol nope. He was always like that long before the past year, constant attitude and facade. The easiest example is his most famous quote "chess speaks for himself" which was an incredibly poserish moment. We've hardly seen anything of him since the accusations a year ago, before that is when he earned his reputation as arrogant and fake (adopting the accent etc), it's amazing you fanboys don't seem to get what an obnoxious guy he always was, and latch on to the accusations as though that's why he has a bad rep
This is fascinating. They have surprisingly good chemistry. Also, that's a good answer to those who think Niemann can't analyse his games. Not only did he massively screw up his win, but he's capable of explaining everything he played.
To anyone saying that he could analyse his games thanks to the eval bar: 1. He didn't just talk about first lines, he said which moves he missed, he said where his calculations ended, he mentioned lines which he thought about but the engine doesn't suggest, and talked about opening lines at the beginning 2. Watch the live commentary, they have the engine too and they aren't remotely as good at analysing the game as he is (and David Howell is a 2650 GM, so no joke either) 3. He spat lines to fast to catch up with the engine at some point 4. Firouzja has the engine as well. If Hans was incapable of analysing his games, then he should still be doing worse than Firouzja in the interview, which he's not. This just doesn't hold. The engine isn't explaining everything
3:56 - 4:25 it is good to see how 2 GM dive deep in the position for 7-8 moves and they both "stopped after Kh6", which was a winning move :) 8:15 - amazing how they remember their game from 2013! :)
I think it was 2015? He said it was in Greece and the 2013 one was in UAE. I was there both times and played in the same category. I remember seeing them both in Greece (also Sarin Nihal, etc.), but cannot remember much about the one in 2013. Anyway, fun times!
I don't think he can get over 2700 with this tournament. He's currently 2670 live rated. There are 6 games remaining, so assuming he plays opponents whose ratings average his he'd need to win all of the remaining games to get to 2700. That's so unlikely that we can call it impossible. Even assuming that he plays opponents who are slightly higher rated than him, then he'd need to go 5.5/6 for the remaining games. Still impossible to be honest.
@@stateofmontanapal.2506 maybe. I don't know when his next event will be but with how much he plays we will probably know very shortly after this one. Honestly I hope his does well. I don't have particular feelings towards him, but I love to see the older generation being challenged by the new one
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I love that we get to see them analysing together. I know after most games players will analyse for a minute or two, but to hear them Hans and Alireza go over what they were thinking and how they evaluate the game together is really interesting.
The commentator usually IS A GM and is trained to pick moves that are understandable and talkable to the public so we all can enjoy the content. You probably cant even follow the free minds of these guys because there is no ground for you ( usually, the gm comentator )
Commentary's job is to bring chess to an audience who doesn't understand GM level analysis. It's important to help newer players understand top level games.
and Alireza respects Hans! He played casual online matches against Hans when most other GM's were still claiming that he was cheating online. Good guy Alireza doesn't take part in the nonsense, all he cares about is chess and fashion :)
I have really been warming up to Hans this tournament. Not only moments like this where his dry, cheeky sense of humour shines through but also just how electric his games always seem to be. His loss against Vidit all but ensures he won't finish Top 2 at Grand Swiss but I am looking forward to the day Hans Niemann is in the Candidates Tournament
I love how computers are so much smarter than us now. GMs no longer keep their thought process and analysis a secret as computers could do it so much better. As a result, we get to know more about GMs we are rooting for.
This probably can only happen in games like this, very chaotic with a draw result, cause both players are really curious to see the engine analysis. With decisive results the loser will not want to talk (few exceptions), and with calm draws no one is so invested in checking immediately with the engine.
At 6:10 Hans could "feel he was winning....big" Seriously was an entertaining game though. It's different to see both of them reviewing the game together like this. I did not know they were the same age, what..... two days apart ?
Perfect inaight, this should get normalised. The formalities and elite nature of the game and broadcast, should be relaxed since its been clear for a long time the players are more social able, informal, direct, accesible and its about time the broadcast also let the commentators be casual and chill with thw players
Alireza standing in front of the screen like he's ordering McDonald's lol
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Seriously. They both forgot they had an audience
HAHAHAHA
Mcflurry please
Can I get uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Qd3?
Even though it’s a little chaotic letting the boys just talk in front of a board and trying to guide them w questions, which is impossible, this is great content
I have no idea what they're talking about. I watch agadmator's video, but can't follow what they're saying here. It's just way over my head. Chess speaks for itself!
Completely agree, wanted to comment something similar!
Amazing
Historic
I think if youre above like 1800 online you can genereally follow their analysis, not that you understand every line immediately but you get the point of their ideas and the flow of the game
Hans: "It's a bit easier on Lichess" LMAO
2:00 haha lichess supremacy
Man who didn't sue lichess for $100 million proclaims the superiority of lichess!
@@pgckAlireza also prefer Lichess
:P
@@pgckI mean like Lichess has the stronger Engine. For us it doesn't matter but for them it does
love how they completely ignore the commentary team for most of it and are just analyzing on their own.
@@Perduraviyeah like thats the point of the engine
Sometimes creating great content is just allowing it to happen without interjecting yourself. Nice job to the commentary team for just sitting back.
Reminds me of ivanchuks legendary 1 hour analysis after the game
Hans is just walking content. A nice moment to see these two remembering old games together, kind of sweet. Would be great to see this kind of thing after more games with different players, it’s fascinating, even if the lines are over our heads the interactions are priceless!
"You can take boat to Liverpool!"
"No I think a flight to London is better."
We need more of such content!
Nice , now I am hoping for both Hans and Hikaru to be paired and having this analysis board after the game :) 🍿🍿🍿
Edit: FIDE, you heard the people ... make it happen!
lol Hikaru will be making weird faces after everything Hans says 😂
Hans will dwarf the diminutive Hikaru
Hans won't be able to keep up with Hikaru's analysis
@@studdpuppy85 that would be awesome to watch, I really imagined it😂😂😂
Wow.....major cringe and sweating if this happens
It’s nice to have both the players here
this feels like when two best friends in school are asked to do a presentation together and aren't taking it seriously, and i love it so much. "Maybe lichess would be better" lmao
i lold so hard at that. Hans firing shots
😂😂😂😂😂
alireza: more free on lichess
hans:more easy on lichess
🤣🤣
And Lichess is LITERALLY FREE.
lichess rules :D
Lichess is better
so wholesome and cute
Wow, both players at the same time! Great to see.
Amazing game, and really cool to see them both analysing together. The spirit is super-obvious: they both *love* chess
Born so close, continents apart, and ending up before this board together, both being the main opponents of the best player (one accepted and one rejected), it' s no coincidence but a lovely case of synchronicity
I consider this a 'positive' for Hans' image.
Yeah it's nice to see him just be a nice normal friendly person for once and drop the badboy edgelord act
@@NotQuiteFirst the badboy edgelord act is literally everyone who was accusing him of cheating. he was always pretty cool
@@FlagerMiszcz lol nope. He was always like that long before the past year, constant attitude and facade. The easiest example is his most famous quote "chess speaks for himself" which was an incredibly poserish moment. We've hardly seen anything of him since the accusations a year ago, before that is when he earned his reputation as arrogant and fake (adopting the accent etc), it's amazing you fanboys don't seem to get what an obnoxious guy he always was, and latch on to the accusations as though that's why he has a bad rep
"But is easier in the lichess"...lol priceless by hans
But it's not tho lol
I mean it is tho
@@Ihate_riceit is tho.
@@seya_2 that's what I'm saying THO
@@Ihate_rice I meant to ping the guys above you my bad
This is fascinating. They have surprisingly good chemistry.
Also, that's a good answer to those who think Niemann can't analyse his games. Not only did he massively screw up his win, but he's capable of explaining everything he played.
He is cheating. Immature cheater.
@@hattaamran7348 only cheater here is you
The eval bar is on. It's not his analysis. Duh.
Give me stockfish and the eval bar on and I would give you similar analysis lmfao if not better
To anyone saying that he could analyse his games thanks to the eval bar:
1. He didn't just talk about first lines, he said which moves he missed, he said where his calculations ended, he mentioned lines which he thought about but the engine doesn't suggest, and talked about opening lines at the beginning
2. Watch the live commentary, they have the engine too and they aren't remotely as good at analysing the game as he is (and David Howell is a 2650 GM, so no joke either)
3. He spat lines to fast to catch up with the engine at some point
4. Firouzja has the engine as well. If Hans was incapable of analysing his games, then he should still be doing worse than Firouzja in the interview, which he's not.
This just doesn't hold. The engine isn't explaining everything
They were geeking it out hard together
Basicly being themselves no?
3:56 - 4:25 it is good to see how 2 GM dive deep in the position for 7-8 moves and they both "stopped after Kh6", which was a winning move :)
8:15 - amazing how they remember their game from 2013! :)
I think it was 2015? He said it was in Greece and the 2013 one was in UAE. I was there both times and played in the same category. I remember seeing them both in Greece (also Sarin Nihal, etc.), but cannot remember much about the one in 2013. Anyway, fun times!
Hans is a strong player and he did an incredible job against Alireza. Good luck Hans. Hope you pass 2700 again after this event.
I don't think he can get over 2700 with this tournament. He's currently 2670 live rated.
There are 6 games remaining, so assuming he plays opponents whose ratings average his he'd need to win all of the remaining games to get to 2700. That's so unlikely that we can call it impossible.
Even assuming that he plays opponents who are slightly higher rated than him, then he'd need to go 5.5/6 for the remaining games. Still impossible to be honest.
@@bobing1752 Sure, hopefully in the next event he gets good result!
@@stateofmontanapal.2506 maybe. I don't know when his next event will be but with how much he plays we will probably know very shortly after this one.
Honestly I hope his does well. I don't have particular feelings towards him, but I love to see the older generation being challenged by the new one
@@bobing1752 his style is certainly more interesting than most super GMs, really excited to see where hans goes
Come on, Hans!!!
FIDE should make a disclaimer that this is NOT a Lichess advert.
This was awesome. They should do this more!
This public analysis and discussion with both players and an engine is great content! You should continue it.
After playing their game, they played again on the TV. 😂
Then they played in bed 🍆🍆😳
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Congrats to both players for producing a great game.
Hans Niemann's code switching between talking to Alireza and David is insane to watch. It is literally sentence by sentence
Well honestly I get him
I love that we get to see them analysing together. I know after most games players will analyse for a minute or two, but to hear them Hans and Alireza go over what they were thinking and how they evaluate the game together is really interesting.
Having two gm's discussing with each other is way better than a commentator pointing out engine moves to them.
The commentator usually IS A GM and is trained to pick moves that are understandable and talkable to the public so we all can enjoy the content. You probably cant even follow the free minds of these guys because there is no ground for you ( usually, the gm comentator )
Commentary's job is to bring chess to an audience who doesn't understand GM level analysis. It's important to help newer players understand top level games.
this is one of the best things ive ever seen related to chess and also generally. more of both players analysing please.
This is fascinating. It's so cool. To be able to think on this level! I can't even.
Pretty cool! Would like to see more game analysis like this with both players.
Love to see this
Hans and Alireza deserve their own channel.
They both have their own channels yk
Hans respect Alireza
Everybody respects Alireza. Greatest prodigy since Magnus.
and Alireza respects Hans! He played casual online matches against Hans when most other GM's were still claiming that he was cheating online. Good guy Alireza doesn't take part in the nonsense, all he cares about is chess and fashion :)
Alireza is a super chill dude
such nice content, very human, loved it
Fun to see them analyze together
I have really been warming up to Hans this tournament. Not only moments like this where his dry, cheeky sense of humour shines through but also just how electric his games always seem to be. His loss against Vidit all but ensures he won't finish Top 2 at Grand Swiss but I am looking forward to the day Hans Niemann is in the Candidates Tournament
Excellent content!!
I love how computers are so much smarter than us now. GMs no longer keep their thought process and analysis a secret as computers could do it so much better. As a result, we get to know more about GMs we are rooting for.
This is video of a great, mega-talented young player, very likely future world champion who is a lovely guy and also Niemann.
Amazing content.
these guys are good!
I love to see more of this kind of content.
I'd love to see more of them together, closer, more intimate
This is just very cool
Love seeing this! This should be done more often though maybe in decisive games the loser would be less fond of talking it over
This probably can only happen in games like this, very chaotic with a draw result, cause both players are really curious to see the engine analysis.
With decisive results the loser will not want to talk (few exceptions), and with calm draws no one is so invested in checking immediately with the engine.
Great content, fascinating!
Nice content, when both opposing players discussing their moves on stream.
That was awesome 😊
I am happy for hans
Both gentlemen are very nice
Can we use lichess for this instead? Much easier to click between moves for the players and you at least get cloud engine analysis so higher depth.
It sounded like Hans switched to an Iranian accent occasionally 😂
I heard French accent but I’m not sure. Weird. Smart people can be weird sometimes.
Funny but not true
Glad to see hans being accomodating.
At 6:10 Hans could "feel he was winning....big" Seriously was an entertaining game though. It's different to see both of them reviewing the game together like this. I did not know they were the same age, what..... two days apart ?
This is wholesome.
Good job Hans! Next time you get him!
This is the best moment! All is forgiven. Let’s go.
I love this video
do beads work in this scenario ?
Amazing to see these geniuses analyzing so kindly and friendly.
Good presentation guys.. your sits NOW !
'maybe lichess would be better' 🤣
He repeated that like three time just so they hear properly😂
Perfect inaight, this should get normalised. The formalities and elite nature of the game and broadcast, should be relaxed since its been clear for a long time the players are more social able, informal, direct, accesible and its about time the broadcast also let the commentators be casual and chill with thw players
This is how GMs thought about the game ❤
When the analysis is more chaotic than the game.
Alireza is such a likable kid
2:00 Hans- Maybe Lichess would be better ....What is that noise they start giggling about?
This format is great. Would be even better with the engine off
Only they understand what they're talking about. They retreat into their own world on the display board. Lovely to see the good humour 😅
Hahaha, at 3:03, Hans Saying "bit easier on Lichess" XD ohh burn...
The fact that they can remember a game from 2013 shows how crazy they are at chess 😂
Hans Neiman the future world champion, hope that happens
Both of them couldn't understand the position. Wild game with complicated position.
Hans is life
Damn Cristian will be out of a job soon, they should just let the players do this after every match in every tournament. Mother of content!
Alireza is so cute and sweet and pretty
Full respekt for begge2⚘❤🙏😎
Great chess, dito chemistry. This is so much better than the trolling and bashing in the chess community.
"Maybe Lichess would be better" 😂Great stuff Hans!
Their game is as scary as Halloween!
As an ordinary 1500 elo player I can't understand on how the analyze there game.
Just play the bong Cloud online non stop till u hit 2800 lol
2:00 Lichess would be better 😝- Hans Niemann catch the right moment, and then that laugh. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
No no, this is not 2900 analysis! chat?
What was the result ?
Great content, but for average players to follow, we need analysis of their analysis.
Nice idea to have them both there but it’s a little awkward with the their backs to the camera.
Imagine remembering a game you played years ago 🤨 these guys are different
its funny that the engine is stockfish 11 lite with 20 depth when they analyze moves XD
This is messy and I loved it
Straight up just 2 bros analyzing and we're eavesdropping
she really loves the eval bar
Alireza should have won he was up two pieces for the rook and the bishop pair
The eyes of Hans are on the engine evaluation lol
an epic moment
You can tell how much they enjoy chess
It would be fun half time talk about their game and the other half mma fight😅
what is with the mics? xD
alireza is a babe