I think the fact that Siraj , an Indian Muslim , who is a son of an auto rickshaw driver plays for the national team represents India way more than a few faceless social media trolls on his tweets. You should've seen the reception he got in his hometown after winning the WC. Anyway , We see what we want to see I guess.
@@ishaanrohmetra3447 sorry , I meant the final match . But his contribution is as valuable as any other team member and we are glad to have such a talented bowler playing for the country 🇮🇳
Pakistanis are the most tolerant people in the world. Usually I hear Hindu baniya, Hindu Kaffir, Ghazwa-e-hind, lal qile par jhanda phrases on Pakistani discussions. These are all phrases of love and tolerance. Also see how Pakistanis have treated Hindus, bengalis, Shias, Balochs, Pashtuns, Sikhs, Parsis, Jews, Christians, Ahmadis, and now Afghans. No one will call Pakistanis intolerant.
In words of the great Tarek Fatah , " Pakistani Punjabi Musalman" are the only people in the history of the world ( even 800 unique nationalities right now in the world ) " who banned their " OWN MOTHER TONGUE " . ( Usually other people ban other people languages - like Pakistani State under Jinnah tried to ban Bangla )
The obsession with "Hindu Baniya" among many radical Pakistanis is so funny to me. They HATE the baniyas, a wealthy caste of traders. It's such a recurring theme, they vilify the baniyas as a cunning, plotting businessman who has no morals. This is very similar to anti-Semitic tropes against Jews in Germany. The inability to tolerate a successful, Hindu, vegetarian community is a major cope.
Wait a second. Am confused. Adeel says "Musalmaano ke saath kya ho raha hai India mein aaj" indirectly pointing to Modi's Govt. He cites the example of Mohammed Siraj being trolled for his Allah the almighty comment. Out of 100 say 5 may have commented that and this guy generalises it. So can someone please explain ki agar musalmaano ke saath Modi ke India mein itna bura ho raha hai, then, how come Mohammed Siraj made it to Indian team?? Especially when the team is headed by Jay Shah who is Amit Shah's son!!! Please can someone explain.
These people don’t apply their brain before saying such nonsense. Indian team has Arshdeep, bhumara both Sikh. One from Gujarat other from Punjab. Coached by Dravid from Bangalore. Captained by Rohit who’s Marathi. They represent our nation which is above all of these identities. Pakistan has team only from Punjab so it’s a team representing punjabistan.
@fan19135 same can be said about muslims on social media, every derogatory comment against hinduism is from a muslim. Abay gadhe humaari population 150cr ki hai, usme 80cr hindu hai, agar 1% bhi hatred failate hai toh bhi 80 lakh-1cr log hue. Let's for a moment assume hindus boht bure hai, baaki west ke deshon mei toh hindus nahi hai, vahan bhi musalmaan hi kyu pele jaate hai? Hurr western country mei muslim jitni %population mei hai usse kaafi jyada %jails mei hai
@@Eagle57-r6hi really don't know how to make sure you get this.. People hating Pakistan is not equal to people hating Muslims.. All Muslims are not pakistani and all pakistani are not muslim surely we have our fare share of communal issues.. My nation was devided because some people of a religion wanted a separate nation... Still modern India is secular... We've had muslim president governors, chief justices, scientists, actors.. There are 250 million Muslims in India.. We are proud of them
Disappointing and tiresome! A country that has wiped out its minorities, its intellectuals are complaining about islamophobia in India. A complete lack of self awareness. The quality of intellect is praiseworthy
Yes you are absolutely right BUT ye bhi sach hai ki godi media ke wajah se MENTAL POLLUTION badha hai logo me Godi youtuber ki wajah se bhi intolerance thogt prosses bohat badha hai pahle se & you don't know who is controlling godi media?????
@@Dharmic56itne per b I hope tumne kabi nai suna hoga ki kisi granthi ki beti utha li, ya kuch or kr dia, kyuki yaha pr log samjhte hain ki politix kab ho rhi h or kab kuch or. Par waha ye prb hai jaise hi log samjhte hain aap logo ko shout out mil jata h gazwa e hind ka fir bus kuch b ho parcham lahrana hai hindustan mein.
Are bhai hai tu apna, wo to bas area hai bhai hum North Indian tu south Indian hai akhri mein to Indian hi na. Aise bhav apne Maan mein mat Lana hum sab ek hi hai
As someone from Mumbai who gets called northie by people in Tamil Nadu. I feel you bro. Entire Telangana, Half of Andhra and Half of Karnataka are above Maharashtra's Southern border. in what universe is that north?!
No one gets offended in India by saying Punjabi singer Dosanj or Tamil superstar Rajmi or Malyali actor A or Kangadiga actoress B….. this is tgeir identity as we all have. I am a proud Punjabi and my jija is a proud Malyali and my wife is a proud Paharan from Nainital Uttrakhand. No one gets offended in India RATHER THIS IS THE FIRST QUESTION WE ASK IF WE MEET ANY ONE - WHERE ARE U FROM?
One of my Sikh friends married a malyali Christian girl whose father is a pastor in church . This is real INDIA us . No matter how much hue and cry is there about hindutva , deep down inside there is massive amalgamation of religions and cultures here ❤
@@ThePakistanExperience everyone assumes you are Indian and is curious about identities. nobody except kashmiri and maybe naga has issues with being Indian
@@KtmrM majority of their 3rd generatn cant even speak a line properly and thats a fact. I m myself living in NCR and pretty much kno wat language they speak. At best, they can understand punjabi. Not all but majority f them
@@IobJind The Hindu population of Indian Punjab is around 40% and they all speak, read and write Punjabi. Unlike you Pakistani Punjabi Muslims who rejected and banned the Gurmukhi script, because you believe that any script rooted in Sanskrit is verbotten to Muslims. You guys are embarassed to speak Punjabi and believe it a sign of low intelligence. In India Punjabi is cool, and Punjabis dominate our culture. Also, if you get a chance, visit West and South Delhi, both areas were settled by Punjabi (Hindu and Sikh) refugees from Pakistan in 1947, and Punjabi remains the first language in majority of homes in those areas even today. I bet you guys don't know that Hindu and Sikh marriage is quirte common, not controversial at all, and that there is no contradiction between the two faiths. Millions of Hindus revere Sikhism and visit Gurudwaras more than they do Hindu temples, especially in Punjab and parts of Delhi. I bet you can even tell us apart: for example: can you guess the faith of the followinhg two people by their names: Charanjeet Singh and Vijender Sandhu?
Bhai faceless trollers ko generalise karna band karo, Punjabi culture ko recognise India ne hi karwaya hai, har cheez pe hindutva ghusaaoge, to islamic terrorism pe bhi generalisation hoga
In india Punjab has become the Sikh Culture. Thats the reason haryana and pahari people separated. In Pakistan everyone is a punjabi that live in punjab.
Dude you are explaining your innocence to these Islamists? 20:38 Hardcore Hindu Hatred, through Pakistani Cinema starts here, portraying Hindus as Killers & butchers while Islam as innocent cute religion, while exactly the opposite has been true in Kashmir If Hindus were killers, they wouldn’t have been just 1% of the population today while 🐷 population is 99%
Thats why VD Savarkar Declared Himself the Son of the British Crown in Kala Pani Jail. Thats why the Hindutva Support the imperialist state of israel for Stealing the Land of Palestine. Oh My So Much Anti-Imperialism 🤣🤣🤣🤣 And what Term is this Islamofadcism. Dont invent Terms which have no real meaning and no support in academic scholarship.
Lol. Hindutva is anti imperialist😂😂😂😂 bro firstly Sorryworker used to write mercy petitions to Brits. Secondly, pro RSS people support Israel's occupation of Palestine which is a result of British imperialism.
Me Sikh hu par India ka base Hindu tha aur rahega.All indian faiths are branches of the tree called sanatan (hindu) ...this is a fact ..political agenda of my nation or any other country cannot change this fact.politician of any country use religion as a voting tool, this is a fact too..but if anyone want to understand India ,they have to know about Hindu dharam because kisi ko acha lge ja na lage hum sab aate toh wohi se hai aur isme pakistani bhi shamil hai...idinitity crisis yahi hai ke jo jo hai ya tha woh woh maan ne ko tyar nahi ..hope things get better in the future for all humankind.
There's no identity crisis in Pakistan. It's totally useless topic. We are Hindustani and Pakistani at the same time. Being a Pakistani is my national identity and being a Hindustani is my civilization identity. Hindustan is the name of a continent not a country.
Paaji lekin aaj ke kai Sikh bhi is brainwashing me phans gaye hain isliye kitna conversion ho raha hai sikhon ko😞.I hope all our Sikh brothers regain their dharmic roots so that they can understand their values as well
@@NishantjhaBbagiyya bihari is teaching nationalism.....but his states are full of vioolence caate religion based hatred.....wo to tum roj social media pe khud hi failate honge..bhagt
@@SyedaSamanGulzar The term Hindu was coined by Persians for People of Indus Sindh ( now in Pakistan). Hindu and Indus valley don't exist on the east of Sindh. They are polytheists of Gangudesh. It was Mahmood Ghouri who started calling gangudeshis as Hindus and his conquered areas as Hindusthan. There was no Hindusthan before Ghouri and no India before British. The term India was invented by Europeans for their own geographic references just like they invented the term Africa. Current Pakistani regions, Indian punjab and Kashmir were part of Mughal and British created Hindusthan/ India for less than 700 years, out of its over 10,000 years of history. Kingdoms from Northwest ( current Pakistan) like Maurya, Kushan, Dahir, Pirthiviraj etc have always invaded, plundered ganga jamuna ( current India minus chinese Burmese Tibet Portuguese regions of Northeast "India" and beyond that were forcefully captured by the British and included in their India). Mauryans alone killed 30 million ganga jamnis. Maurya didn't know what India hindusthan or bharat was. If Pakistanis can't claim Ghouri, Abdalli, Mohammad bin Qasim their heroes then India can't claim Maurya , Kusha, Dahir their heroes. Ask south Indians, They hated indus valley and its kingdoms and refused to call themselves Hindus untill Indra Gandhi bombed them twice.
Even for intellectuals like these, history starts from Mughals. Do you people know Bout the alumni of Taxshila, which geographically unfortunately, in Pakistan now but its legacy shall always be of Bharat because Islam has devoid and uprooted Pakistanis from its history, culture and character of the land. Such bemoaning podcasts cannot change a country for which Religion is beyong everything in life.
u have nothing to do with taxila we are the inheritors of gandhara we are the same ppl that lived there not u upwalas bengalis or dravidian kallus u claiming our countries name our river our ppl our history our civilisations doesnt fucking matter go name urself bharat ur countries named after something it isnt
Seriously…u r so quick to play the victim card u don’t realize they r talking about the last few hundred years…not about a 1000 year old civilization. BTW… Taxila is taught in Pak schools along with trips to the cite
What I find ridiculous from a section of Punjabis(particularly Jatts on both sides), is they always imagine a "Sikh-Muslim unity". The Punjabi Christian is the "choora" in Pakistan and the Hindu Punjabi not worth of friendship. Why is it so?
Well said Bro.heard many podcasts on this topic but even in our Punjab history starts only from last 500 years.Though recent podcast from Syed Muzzamil on Lahore was a refreshing change and an eye-opener
@@sifarshoonaya2534 It not about 500 or 1000 yrs. It's just making one enemy and making your side pious. Maybe exactly what the RW across the world is accused of.
@@BrokenSoldier1515The case of Asia Bibi only revels the inherent casteism of Pakistani Punjabi society. It may have been irrelevant for Zia-ised people of today's Pakistan, but in India, the symbolic around the cup of water is well known. Under false case of blasphemy, the Muslim jaatnis of that village in fact did a casteistic lynching against that Christian chamari. Concept of "religion purity" on water cup is non existant in Islam, but Concept of "caste purity" on water cup is existant in the Indian caste system. Pakistani society is currently a society pretending to be Muslim, to be Arab, Persian, Turk or whatever, whatever except what they are really, at least recognising of what they are the most closer.
@@Pandit-kt9yeAmritsar has 0% different faith? Amritsar is like 50-50 Hindu and Sikh, are you stupid? Lahore was not majority Hindu though, but it is true that Hindus and Sikhs made up most of the city's upper class.
Read again the red cliff award gao.mutray, if hindus were in majority it would have been part of india, even a slim majoŕity of muslims would have granted it to india like gurdaspur, it being part of pak proves it was overwhelmingly muslim
By that logic,Karachi should have been the part of India post partition.Yes,Lahore had majority of Muslims but Hindus had dominated the majority of economics of the city.Institutions like Arya Samaj has their HQ in Lahore.Paxtanis ignored the history and demographics of every region and in the quest of becoming urdu speaking turks and arabs, they killed the beauty of entire region.
@@Health-Blitz Not Millions - unless you were trying to be sarcastic. There are close to 700,000 Churches, Shrines, Basilicas and Grottos of Christian faith recognized by various Denominations, Diocese, Parishes and Christian Bodies
@@Health-Blitz I'm a proud Indian Christian and I have never been discriminated against in this beautiful country.. it's not about religious symbols.. it's about giving equal rights and opportunities.. Indian Christian are second most educated and richest demographic.. second only to Jain in education and Sikh in earning.. That speaks volumes of Indian constitution and culture
@@rohand04 I'm not even a Christian and I love Jesus - his kindness, forgiving nature, non-violence and love for sinners and lepers is just so inspiring - so much virtue and wisdom in the 10 commandments - and message of peace and brotherhood - it resonates with my Hindu brain. Edit: I love the way Britishers celebrate Christmas - why are they so bashful about saying Merry Christmas nowadays - shouldn't become so woke, man
Can't understand why every guest tries to justify current and/or past mistakes by Pakistan by drawing false equivalences with India. When it comes to fanaticism, there can be no comparison between the two counties.
Well guess what you are living in delulu. We are literally the same people, just that one side probably had better leaders than the other. Ek supreme charismatic leader hi lagta hai south asians ko bevkoof banane ke liye chaahe vo hindu, muslim, sikh ya koi bhi ho.
Suggestion to My Indians , Don't Watch Such Content . Don't Give them Viewership. There's lots of Better Informative and even Entertaining Channels to Watch Than To Watch These People Crying and Complaining All the Time. If You Could Get Dollars for Doing Bakwaas , Then Paxtan Would be the Wealthiest Nation on Earth Don't Give Any Importance To Their Bakwaas, Let them Do It Twice a Week for the Next 30-40 years too
@@Skywimz We will be very thankful of Indians will stay away from our contents . But it's Indians obsession and u guys cannot help . Still u will watch and comment sh*it
There are 1000s of incidents like that of Kanhaiya Laal Even in India, millions of Hindus are facing crime at the hands of Momins, and they say that momin are being potrayed in a wrong way. They see things from their DHA lense. They may belong to the 2 % decent momins, but 98 % are indecent.
One thing that becomes abundantly clear from the discussion above is that apparently educated Pakistanis have very little understanding of Sikhism, Sikhs, and Maharaja Ranjit Singh's rule.
Pakistan is lucky to have honest and selfless military people who love the country. They have safely invested Pakistani money in Papa John's pizza franchise and real estate in London, Canada, and Dubai. They have also bought an island near Australia. They have made sure that Pakistani people don't waste their money on luxury items such as wheat flour, vegetables, electricity, clothing, and education.
You really expect Indians to appreciate Pakistanis after consistent attacks by the latter for the last 7 decades? If Pakistani outlook towards India changes, you would not see any jingoism in Bollywood.
Bhai, main uttarakhand se hun, aur as a civilization i can peacefully live in Kerala. Cause we are a civilizational nation. Hence we are one and doesn't find it difficult to coexist.
@@rohitrohra karachi was 50% hindu thats why sindh’s parliament was the first state to pass the Pakistan’s Resolution. Sindh literally created Pakistan and you are saying karachi was50% hindu😱😱😱😱😱 where do guys get this stuff 🤥🤥🤥 kya phonk ke comment kar rhy ho😵💫😵💫
If before British we had no idea of religion Why did Central Asians abduct only Hindu women ,then why turks broke only hindu and sikh temples and when sikhs and hindus fought no Gurudwara or temples were broken.Most Importantly Why under every muslim king were forced conversions carried out if relegion was so insignificant?
@@HarryPratt22are bhagt he kya, simply Google karna......tumara aaajkl ka churan nalanda University bhi bakhtiyar Khilji se pehle kin kin logo ne todi thi.......brmahnonne kitne busshists temples tode he???...Jain sadhuo kese mara jata tha??..... I won't be aa much as Muslim invaders did....but there were many incidents.
@@mok-f3uThe temples of high importance jyotirlinga aur shaktipeeth were never broken by any Hindu Sikh Buddhist king.Whichever Hindu if broke any other kingdoms temple he took the idol and consecrated them in temples of his own kingdom with respect, unlike Muslims who broke temples and idols and buried them under mosque stairs(as written in aurangzeb biography).They broke temples so that society could be demoralised and carrying out conversions became easier
Modi se China toh roka nahi jaa rha joh ghus gaya hai bada aya adha Pakistan humara hota 😂😂 main bhi Indian hu par teri tarah ghalatfehmi me nahi hu.... Only Indira Gandhi had the guts to break Pakistan into two halves and for a legit reason.
Kashmiri Hindu Ne banki hindus ke sath milke kashmiri Muslim ka genocide nahi kiya,Lekin Kashmiri Muslims ne banki Muslims ke sath kashmiri Hindu ka genocide kiya hai.If it had been only about regional and linguistic affinities to Bangladesh me hindu population itni neeche nahi jati aur west bengal me itni nahi badhti, for Muslims it has always been about relegion.
@@trojanwar760Don't talk anecdotally Muslims ki population India me badhi hai aur Hindus ki pakistan Bangladesh me kam Hui hai that's the basic difference between 2 Nations.Isolated events quote krne se community ka hal nahi pata chalta
@@trojanwar760Nupur Sharma k statement ke baad Muslims ne 6 Hindus ko stab krke maar diya aise cases rioting ke pakistan me kyun nahi milte socha hai?
@@NishantjhaB what kind of stupidity are you writing. Hindu population has increased in both Pakistan and bangladesh as the population grew. India men bhe waisy he muslim population increase hoye hai jaisy population growth ka rate tha. Aisy stupid baten tum logon ko kon btata hai😒😒
@@SLLR4594it would be interesting to see him actually facing tough questions and not the fanboys who invite him to their podcasts. TBH he probably doesn't have the balls to face actual journalists or podcasters with facts....tabhi toh bas apne chamcho ke paas jaata hai
HINDU NATIONALIST BJP held state of Assam revelation of population data says, 40% Muslims ☪️ & 37% Christians ✝️ , while Hindu FINALLY Becomes MINORITY in their Once OWN state. THIS IS INDIA 🇮🇳
In the movie Gangs of wasseypur , Ramadhir Singh's famous dialogue " Jab tak Hindustan mein cinema hai , log ..... bante rahenge " But Hindustan mein cinema na ho , toh woh pakistan jaisa ban jayega 😂
Pakistan has far less problems than the problems India faces. There are 12 freedom fights going on in India but only kashmir is highlighted to blame Islam and Pakistan. The whole northeast India which was created by the British after stealing Chinese, Burmeses, Tibet lands is a no go zone. Even Indians need permit to enter certain regions. No foreign media is allowed. Army has been deployed their to target kill freedom fighters. Indian deep state has unleashed murder and rape gangs many times. India is moving beharis and odiisa locals to all of northeast to change the demographics of those regions. These two zoos aka India and Pakistan were created by the British.
@@kishwer-w9k Aisa kya brave like 16 dec or like kargil not accepting dead bodies. Ok leave that old thing tell me one thing are uighers and kurds muslims or not 👻👻👻
Jutt is pure Hindu Jaat .. from Punjab .. they follows Gurunanak dev .. We all Indians(Hindus) go to Gurudwara because of Sikh Gurus , Sikh are Brave Hindus .. but bloodlines are same .. that’s why every Hindu respect Sikh(Sardar ji ) .
Hypocrisy of highest order Pakistan is made on religion but India should learn from us what a mistake it was India 🇮🇳 continue being secular --wow what preachings !! Cultural ethos and ties in India are way stronger than you can ever reckon …even without your preaching we continue to enjoy our diversity as our core strength Md Siraj example was not required shows a narrow modest again and zero tolerance
Pakistan is an exception, the norm being all the European democracies, USA, Latin America etc. Central Asia flowed two ways. Our existence is not solely defined by religion. I don't want to fight w you. Fighting is exactly the reason our country is suffering today. Main Modi ya Rahul Gandhi ki politics ke liye countrymen se nahi ladunga. Peace out ma'am ♥️
Saw one interview of one Sindhi family who came to India because of the injustice happening in Sindh to Sindhi Muslims and Sindhi Hindu both. But I don't hope somebody will voice them. The truth is religion made Pakistanis blind.
If shezad calls mutiny war of independence of 1857 then shezad is a hindutvadi because veer savarkar was the first man who called mutiny of 1857 as a war of independence
Pakistan nearly wiped out its entire Hindu & other minority population, situation is that bad that Govt. of Pakistan no longer release minority statistics any more in fear of global sanctions. While in India, Muslim population has increased in past 75yrs significantly.
Hindu Population is increasing rapidly in Pakistan, what you're saying is a lie. There was 4 million Hindu's in Pakistan in 2010, now 8 million and increasing. Millions of Hindus thrive here.
@@vinay249 Its not illiteracy, its religious fanaticism but even that requires and conducive environment which doesn't exist in FACIST countries like Pakistan.
@@tushars4038 by your logic, hindus population is at the top and is too increasing along with muslim that means hindus are also religious fanatics right?
Are we the consequence of an identity crisis? I was today days old when I learnt that Muhammad Ali was son of Jinnahbhai Poonja... who was son of Poonja Gokuldas Meghji...a HINDU. Muhammad Ali was part of the first generation that was raised devoid of Hindu practices. So, someone, who was a practical Hindu a generation back, just up and shunned his own lineage so hard into oblivion he created another nation Like did the whole entire family/ clan convert so entirely and completely that they lost all empathy, connection and belonging with the Hindu community? All sense of safety? By that means were his ancestors a generation or 2 back fighting Muslims? Or were they co-existing? At what point did that co-existence became such an impossible concept to them as a family? Was the disconnect a class divide that erupted when Jinnahbhai Poonja became richer than his relatives?
The urge to bring in hindutva without realizing what that really is, i mean how do i describe it. I think shezhad maybe a decent a guy but when he talks about hindutva and how india is enforcing hindu identity on itself, it is just baffling. Either he studies and does his research on what foreign media and opposition is saying or is a momin who subconsciously wishes that India is going the same path pakistan did
@@chetnasingh7747 aray mai kehta hu dharam jaisa bhi ho, upar wale ne brain toh dia hai. Khud bhi logic lagale thoda. Wo bhi nahi karte pakistani. Aur ye toh moderate and rational pakistani hai
@@anuroopchatterjee1746 neither did I say i know. To paint something good or bad you must know what youre talking about. Mai nahi kehta hindutva acha hai ya bura, lekin jo bura bol rhe hai vo toh proof ke saath kyu nahi bolte? mai gyaan de nahi raha, tumhare gyaan ka source maang rha hu jisko dene mei tumhari nani marr jaati hai
@@anuroopchatterjee1746 maine kab kaha mujhe pta hai. mai ni kehta hindutv acha hai ya bura, lekin jo log bura bol rhe hai vo source kyu nahi dete? proof dete samay tumhe dikkat kyu hoti hai, source ke saath bolo ki xyz reasons ke vajah se bura hai. gyaan de nahi raha, tumhare gyaan ka source maang rha hu
India me har bandda ek din me 4,5,6, languages bolta hai. (1) jo us area ki language hai jaise haryana me khadi bolly (2) english (3) hindi (4) punjabi (5) mixed urdu sanskrit ke kucch words. Bas yaaro kya batau her 10 km ke baad 10% to 15% language me change aa jaata hai. 22 language to government paper work me use hoti hai. Baki un languages ki tang baa tod ke sublingual to sainkado languages ban jati hai ❤
The British were shrewd enough to realise the need to bring over their fiercest rivals to their side - and in the name of respecting martial races - they recruited Pathans , Punjabi Mussalmans, Sikhs, Ahir Hindus and Gurkhas - into regiments of British India.
It’s good to see intellectual conversations happening on both sides of the border. Particularly on independent platforms like this. One might have a difference of opinion on a few points, but these conversations are certainly helpful. Well done!
Classic example of retaining one’s identity is Indonesia… They never try to shy away from their Hindu past… Infact Ramayan is very popular there… South Asians and south East Asians may choose whatever religion they want but culturally everyone is a Hindu/Buddhist…
So, In 1947 when the Barath was split 25% of Pakistani population were Hindus and were are they now what happened to them, if you are talking about the identities the same Kashmir came from Hindus and Lahore is named after the son of Lord Sri Ram, Pakistan is an failed experiment which have no idea where did they come from or where there are going, the idea on which that country is formed is HATE, it is going be defaulted now or later
I don't if Lahore is really named after the name of Lord Sri Ram but I've heard here from Old locals, they say this place have always been expensive and for the punjabi phrase "leya hore" meaning "bring more" made it to Leya hore ... La-hore. Please do a little bit research and reply me whether your point is right or mine. I just don't have enough time to research. Thanks in advance.
@@memer7867tumhare dikkat ye hai ki jo history ya even fiction bhi tumhare religion se purane hai tum usko manne ya uske bare me information padne se hi inkar kr dete ho.
32:00 - Mengel Panday.... Have some SHAME 😡😡 it's MANGAL PANDEY, The FREEDOM FIGHTER of 1st War for UNITED INDIA Independents in 1847. Show some respect 🙏
Why there was Sindhi Muhajir issue in West pakistan and Bengali Bihari conflict in East pakistan while people migrating from West Punjab , Sindh and East Bengal didn't face much discrimination in India ?
I dont know about the bengal side but the muhajir issue in karachi was funded by fauji establishment and later some indian elements were involved ad well.
@@ThePakistanExperience They did. "rafooji" was a word in Punjabi sometime back. Since idea of India was never based on basis of exclusion, everyone got okay with it.
Yes there is commanlity among Punjabis I am Jatt Sikh of Bains/Wains Clan Same as of Fawad Chaudhary We both decended from Same ancestor named Bains/Wains from where we took our clan name
When you talk about religious extremism in pakistan and inbetween say in india its also rising is intellectual dishonesty. You try to compare pickpocket with dakus. You yourself mentioned their was time when punjab had religious tolerance. Who was in majority at that time it was hindus. I can also show you hundred of incidents by muslim against hindus in india. Can you show me one incident by hindu in pakistan against islam? Apostasy is punishable by death from day 1 in islam. This is first argument of religious hate in islam against rest of the world.
In the 3rd battle of panipat (marathas vs Afghans), the Maratha army had representation from hindu, muslim (ibrahim gardi). After the Maratha's lost, their women were being taken by the afghans. Its was the Punjabis (sikhs) who rescued these women from a fate worse than death.
Really why the hell yr. phly ye sun k khushi hoti thi k there are some Sindhi creators like junejo, you, samo then I got to know junejo can't speak sindhi and now you are saying the same thing. Why?@@ThePakistanExperience
As a Punjabi it saddens me to see that Punjabi is dying in Punjabi, despite fact that it’s our native language and it is a lot older than urdu … all thanks to the brainwashing of the Punjabis by the state
Jammu's majority language is Dogri and we are ethnically different to Punjabis, and no we dont any feel affinity to punjab.Never did. See you couldn't even tell what the language of jammu yet you guys seem to act like experts on J&K
IT WERE KASHMIRIES WHO SUPPORTED "URDU" IN OUR PUNJAB, KASHMIRIES ARE FAMOUS FOR HA HA HA READ MUNTO AND KRISHEN CHUNDAR SHORT STORIES(BY THE WAY NUNTO WAS ALSO KASHMIRI)
35:29 bhai go wikipedia kashmir mein utne hindu nhi rehte bass jammu mein jayeda rehte hain 1950 se hi unka katle aam suru hua shehzad bhai with respect wikipedia kholo
@IqbalBakhtIf they were so endearing to Jammu, why would they migrate to the lala land of Pakistan when if at all they were two thirds, u wannabe Arab
As Pakistani Sindhi Hindu, I hope the podcast like honest TPE push the envelope of constructive and intellectual thinking in our society. As someone studying in Italy, I can vouch for the fact culture and language make everyone feel included regardless of their ethinicies and religion. It is one of the reasons why as such nations get united and prosperous. Great effort and content team TPE!
Shezad ,RRR was a Telgu movie , you called it Malyalam but we North lndians also make the same mistake.They have 5 states ,each having its own distinctive language, culture,dance forms and traditions.We call them South lndians and consider Telgu ,Tamil , malyalam and Kannada language as same , because We can not understand any of them .But hum North wale bhee naukri kerne vehin jaate hain because Gurgaon and Bombay ke elawa koi job nahi hamare yahan .My son is in Bengaluru,capital of karnatka working for Amazon ,daughter is in Hyderabad,capital of Andhra Pradesh and Telangana.Ghe people over there are very good and respectful ❤
India is a melting pot. Everyone is welcome here, but they have to accept Indian culture. We will not accept radicalization and abuse of other faiths here. The founder of the Ahmadi sect of Islam and the founder of Islam both have equal rights to live in peace here. No one is superior to the other. We don't accept the supremacy of any religion. For us, Krishna, Shankar, Mahavir, Buddha, Gorakh, Mohammad, Nanak, Osho, Patanjali... all represent GOD equally. We believe religion is like rivers. They move towards the same destination.
The logic of Adeel sir on Kashmir is a bit weird, dogri is spoken in jammu which is more closer to languages like Garhwali and Kumaoni which are spoken in himachal pradesh and Uttarakhand, than punjabi. So according to his logic how can Pakistan claim "azad Kashmir"? I'm not a hater, been a follower of TPE since a long time, but sometimes when you are talking about such things you should be more careful and at least aware.
Hi Shehzad, you may want to examine why Pakistan has dual citizenship and its unintended impact on why Pakistani invest outside instead of in Pakistan. The lack of identity disconnect plays a contributory role in this. It’s why Pakistani Army leaders are retiring to Canada rather than their own country.
True on the Kashmiri vs non-Kashmiri. Prof Bhim Singh of Panthers Party, and others in pre-1989 JKLF (which had Hindus too), were vocal supporters of Kashmir being a distinct identity from rest of India.
Not found anything interesting, same thing said over and over. No self-critique, just bitching about problems that are out of their hands instead of talking about real issues. Has this guy ever tried to even invite an Indian Muslim that can give a realistic view to this guy about India and the Muslims living in India. Dude, invite someone like Abhijit Iyer Mitra, Kushal Mehra, or the folks from India This Week (Khalid Baig and the other lady who I can't recall the name of) or Shehzad Poonawala who is a spokesperson of BJP and grill them.
1:20 That's absolutely true about being "nation of nations", that's true about India too but no one will dare say it here either because of sensitivities of people who believe different ethno-nations should abandon their identities & languages or at least limit it to being considered local or regional in favour of assuming a broader identity that they themselves grew up with. In other words, adopt their identity over our own. 3:35 Yes, pakistan is technically North West India. Also, the name Sindhudesh legitimately applies to what is now pakistan but I doubt anyone ever thought the Desh they've around the Sindhu River should be known as such. 39:53 That was much later on.
They speak dogri in J&K. People in Himachal, Punjab (India) also speak the same language. It's an officially recognized language by Indian Constitution.
I think some Punjabi Muslims going mad after Moosewala has more to do with the psyche ki Sikhs will separate from India someday. Aur Hindu ka dushman dost hota hai. Though won't paint everyone with the same brush
Not really. Most Pakistanis don't know about Khalistan movement. It's just that Indian media has painted an average Pakistani as anti-India that people like you are skeptic of anything positive that is seen in Pakistan. Most Pakistanis are not anti-India. They're just normal people with normal dreams of a loving partner, proud parents, happy life etc. India plays no role in our day to day life
I AM PUNJABI I NEVER GIVE A THOUGHT TO DIVIDE MORE PUNJAB, ON THE OTHER HAND WE WANT TO SEE ONE STRONG PUNJAB OF INDIAN STATE AS WE WERE BEFORE. WHO ARE YOU? GUJRATI? WOW
@@MuhammadAbdullah-zj1ph Quite possible. But the state promotes animosity towards India and Hindus. Maybe a Pakistani who is illiterate and never went to school has a high chance of being inclusive and tolerant.
Actually 1857 war was sepoys mutiny. It was Veer savarkar who called it first war of independence in 1909 . And it was sikh and gorkha regiment who was fight from the Britishers
I'm a proud Punjabi, and I don't believe a Country should be like where the Identity, Culture, Civilization and Language of the People needs to be compromised, in case of Pakistan deliberately created so called "Nationalism" where each and everything of the Natives was changed and imposed the Culture, Civilization and Language of those People who were actual the real culprits, who break their Country, and also brainwashed their children, so they feel shame while speaking their own Mother tongue!!
Thats why Islam Spread in all Corners of world cause there is no concept of discrimination in Islam based on caste or colour. Such big population of muslims in the indian region is the biggest proof that people dont wanted to be part of the hindu religions.
Let me correct your host . In 1947 genocide took place in jammu region not in Kashmir because muslims were in absolute majority there. You can check it if you visit upper punjab like sialkot majority of people who migrated to punjab are from jammu region not kashmir.
I really do not resonate with your views on israel and Palestine. Though your views on language and culture over religion is something I appreciate and kind of agree upon. I speak marathi language and definitely cannot tolerate other languages dominating over my language.
I am listening to him and I have been listening to him for years and I miss those times when his comment section was not corrupted by Indian trolls. Many Pakistanis listen to him. It’s just that we don’t comment unnecessarily and spew hate for no reason.
Extremely disappointed that this so called SCHOLAR is using word MUTINY for 1857's war of Independence and than he also criticizes k hum SHANAKHT KIO NAI MANTAY. bas krde bhai Shehzad, isme se jitna GHEE nikalna tha nikal lia, he doesn't know shit about other things.
Moosa Khan is anti Hinduism and Hindu movie, in India we never made anti Islam and Muslims movie, but we show Pakistan or Terrorist as enemy but never shown Islam or Muslims as enemy. Even Hindu director Rajkumar Hirani made a movie, My name is khan and I am not a Terrorist and many songs have God/Bhagwan/Allah names and many movies made for Islam and Hinduism too for good religions.
Please stop this stupidity. You have already created your identity. This concept of Hindu and Sindhu was created by Muslims and British who just looted the lands and kingdoms which were following a particular dharam and culture. We were here from Afghanistan to Combodia and Bali. You never identified with it and keep going in circles with the same topic. Accept the fact you are now a Pakistani which is an Islamic identity different from the historical one. This debate will kill two nation theory as people of India have retained their respective identity but still live as a single nation. An advice, read modern day Indian historians like Vikram Sampat and Sandeep Sanyal to learn more about India's true history and not the one which was peddled by Nehruvian historians
Pakistan Today is Morphing into its Own Identity. The People of Past have no influence Today. We are Melting into A Single Nation Just like what Happened in Turkey or USA. And its Coming from a Punjabi ,All of whom’s Family Migrated from the other side of punjab. پاکستان پائندہ باد قوم پرست عناصر مردہ باد
These things happen in post industrial, highly urbanized societies. Pakistan is still a pre industrial agricultural society. So, that's not happening anytime soon here. Second, Pakistan is a state, not a nation. Punjabi, sindhi, pakhtoon, muhajir are nations. Every nation should have right to promote and preserve it's culture.
@@muhammadawais7109 But it has already happened. Just look at the big Four Urban areas karachi lahore capital region faisalabad. there you wont find today the qom prast elements.
Very sensible discussion. As a Pakistani, I get a reality check every time I hear your podcasts. We need more content like this so Pakistani thought can evolve.
Mujhe koi pakistani ye btayega... Ki india ke bare mai ap log kuch be aake bol dete.... Jbki apke india ke bare mai abc tak ka pta nhi hai.... Kya Bo justified hai...... Jo tumhe right lga Bo bol diya ye kon sa logic hua........
The guest lied through his teeth and the host allowed him to continue with his lie. Sikhs did not join the war of Independence or mutiny against British. They were wholly supporting British. Not a single Sikh opened fire against British in that war. The only people who were agitated against British in Punjab were Muslims and Hindus, particularly the latter. Punjab was relatively less hostile to British because its Muslim majority rather welcomed to British take over and considered them preferable to Sikh Shahi.
@@SyedaSamanGulzar bro Pakistan invaded Kashmir in 1948 with tribal leaders. Jinnah believed the kings of princely states decides whether the state joins India or Pakistan. Nehru believe the people in the princely state gets to vote whether they want to do India or Pakistan that Jinnah didn't agree. When Pakistan invaded Kashmir in 1948, the king of Kashmir hari Singh signed the instrument of accession to India. So by Jinnah's point of view Kashmir belongs to India. If you hadn't invaded Kashmir in 1948, then Kashmir could have been part of Pakistan but now legally due to Kashmirs king singing the accession it belongs to India. Not only that, Pakistan refused to follow the first step of the UN resolution to withdraw Pakistani troops from Kashmir then India would then there will be elections. Pakistan openly told UN they can't withdraw their troops to the UN hence failing the UN resolution. Kashmir isn't part of Pakistan due to Pakistani politicians. Your loss now cry.
I think the fact that Siraj , an Indian Muslim , who is a son of an auto rickshaw driver plays for the national team represents India way more than a few faceless social media trolls on his tweets. You should've seen the reception he got in his hometown after winning the WC.
Anyway , We see what we want to see I guess.
And he got troll on Twitter for giving credits to allah
We Pakistanis are open about our fuckups, indians are all about whatsboutism
@@shatnermohanty6678 he was in the starting matches
@@ishaanrohmetra3447 sorry , I meant the final match .
But his contribution is as valuable as any other team member and we are glad to have such a talented bowler playing for the country 🇮🇳
@@bharatkapoor4062 then stop giving credit for jai shree ram too..
Pakistanis are the most tolerant people in the world.
Usually I hear Hindu baniya, Hindu Kaffir, Ghazwa-e-hind, lal qile par jhanda phrases on Pakistani discussions. These are all phrases of love and tolerance.
Also see how Pakistanis have treated Hindus, bengalis, Shias, Balochs, Pashtuns, Sikhs, Parsis, Jews, Christians, Ahmadis, and now Afghans. No one will call Pakistanis intolerant.
Sahi pakde ho ... bas ab india me Modi wahi karra to use mat defend karna bass.....
@@nikhildeshmukh6221 what has Modi done?
Itna Sach mat bolo bhai
Mirchi lagegi inko
In words of the great Tarek Fatah , " Pakistani Punjabi Musalman" are the only people in the history of the world ( even 800 unique nationalities right now in the world ) " who banned their " OWN MOTHER TONGUE " . ( Usually other people ban other people languages - like Pakistani State under Jinnah tried to ban Bangla )
The obsession with "Hindu Baniya" among many radical Pakistanis is so funny to me. They HATE the baniyas, a wealthy caste of traders. It's such a recurring theme, they vilify the baniyas as a cunning, plotting businessman who has no morals. This is very similar to anti-Semitic tropes against Jews in Germany.
The inability to tolerate a successful, Hindu, vegetarian community is a major cope.
Wait a second. Am confused. Adeel says "Musalmaano ke saath kya ho raha hai India mein aaj" indirectly pointing to Modi's Govt. He cites the example of Mohammed Siraj being trolled for his Allah the almighty comment. Out of 100 say 5 may have commented that and this guy generalises it. So can someone please explain ki agar musalmaano ke saath Modi ke India mein itna bura ho raha hai, then, how come Mohammed Siraj made it to Indian team?? Especially when the team is headed by Jay Shah who is Amit Shah's son!!! Please can someone explain.
These people don’t apply their brain before saying such nonsense. Indian team has Arshdeep, bhumara both Sikh. One from Gujarat other from Punjab. Coached by Dravid from Bangalore. Captained by Rohit who’s Marathi. They represent our nation which is above all of these identities. Pakistan has team only from Punjab so it’s a team representing punjabistan.
@fan19135 same can be said about muslims on social media, every derogatory comment against hinduism is from a muslim. Abay gadhe humaari population 150cr ki hai, usme 80cr hindu hai, agar 1% bhi hatred failate hai toh bhi 80 lakh-1cr log hue. Let's for a moment assume hindus boht bure hai, baaki west ke deshon mei toh hindus nahi hai, vahan bhi musalmaan hi kyu pele jaate hai? Hurr western country mei muslim jitni %population mei hai usse kaafi jyada %jails mei hai
@@Eagle57-r6hif 100 percent terrorist r Muslims can I say all muslims r terrorist as per ur landya logic
@@Eagle57-r6hi really don't know how to make sure you get this.. People hating Pakistan is not equal to people hating Muslims.. All Muslims are not pakistani and all pakistani are not muslim surely we have our fare share of communal issues.. My nation was devided because some people of a religion wanted a separate nation... Still modern India is secular... We've had muslim president governors, chief justices, scientists, actors.. There are 250 million Muslims in India.. We are proud of them
@@AnkitYadav-rj8ml Well said.
Extremist Islam is a snake in the grass, moderate Islam is the grass in which the snake hides.
What about extreme Hinduism ? Looking for beef in the Fridge.
Same could be said about any religion tbh
If this your thinking then Pakistan doesn’t need to do anything. india is tearing itself apart.
@@lajuliet5164 only 1 religion gives official sanction to kill others in this modern times.
@@BrokenSoldier1515
Pakistan kar bhi kya lega
H aukat tumhari
10 sal aur ruko, tumlog khud fat k maroge
Disappointing and tiresome!
A country that has wiped out its minorities, its intellectuals are complaining about islamophobia in India. A complete lack of self awareness. The quality of intellect is praiseworthy
Yes you are absolutely right
BUT
ye bhi sach hai ki godi media ke wajah se MENTAL POLLUTION badha hai logo me
Godi youtuber ki wajah se bhi intolerance thogt prosses bohat badha hai pahle se
& you don't know who is controlling godi media?????
@@Dharmic56itne per b I hope tumne kabi nai suna hoga ki kisi granthi ki beti utha li, ya kuch or kr dia, kyuki yaha pr log samjhte hain ki politix kab ho rhi h or kab kuch or. Par waha ye prb hai jaise hi log samjhte hain aap logo ko shout out mil jata h gazwa e hind ka fir bus kuch b ho parcham lahrana hai hindustan mein.
Kya kre chor chori se jaye Seena jori se bhi jaye😂 jb dharm hi vhi hai tb kya krege
RRR is telugu , i am a malayalee yes we do sometimes get offended when people generalize us by calling us "south indians".
Chetta what do you think is the core issue?
what north and south ... we are proud Indians thats it
Are bhai hai tu apna, wo to bas area hai bhai hum North Indian tu south Indian hai akhri mein to Indian hi na. Aise bhav apne Maan mein mat Lana hum sab ek hi hai
North Indian BJP bhakts are offended in the replies.🤣🤣
As someone from Mumbai who gets called northie by people in Tamil Nadu. I feel you bro. Entire Telangana, Half of Andhra and Half of Karnataka are above Maharashtra's Southern border. in what universe is that north?!
No one gets offended in India by saying Punjabi singer Dosanj or Tamil superstar Rajmi or Malyali actor A or Kangadiga actoress B….. this is tgeir identity as we all have. I am a proud Punjabi and my jija is a proud Malyali and my wife is a proud Paharan from Nainital Uttrakhand. No one gets offended in India RATHER THIS IS THE FIRST QUESTION WE ASK IF WE MEET ANY ONE - WHERE ARE U FROM?
Yahan log offend hojatay hain if you say you’re Baloch instead of Pakistani
One of my Sikh friends married a malyali Christian girl whose father is a pastor in church . This is real INDIA us . No matter how much hue and cry is there about hindutva , deep down inside there is massive amalgamation of religions and cultures here ❤
@@namansrivastav2008 India mein secularism twb twk hey jab tak Hindu majority mein hey .
Diljit was target for saying punjabi a gye oye 😂, dude in which world do you live. Hindu RW has same as paki RW
@@ThePakistanExperience everyone assumes you are Indian and is curious about identities. nobody except kashmiri and maybe naga has issues with being Indian
That the host keeps ignoring Punjabi Hindus when discussing the Punjabi language either speaks to his ignorance or reveals his Hindu phobia.
majority of Hindus left punjabi language way back in 1947 or even before during the arya samaj reign... Thats the reality sadly
@@IobJind
Lol Punjabi Hindus who have left Punjab still speak Punjabi. Be it Delhi or somewhere else. Stop with this bs.
@@KtmrM majority of their 3rd generatn cant even speak a line properly and thats a fact. I m myself living in NCR and pretty much kno wat language they speak. At best, they can understand punjabi. Not all but majority f them
Punjabi Hindus themselves betrayed Punjab and Punjabi..
@@IobJind The Hindu population of Indian Punjab is around 40% and they all speak, read and write Punjabi. Unlike you Pakistani Punjabi Muslims who rejected and banned the Gurmukhi script, because you believe that any script rooted in Sanskrit is verbotten to Muslims. You guys are embarassed to speak Punjabi and believe it a sign of low intelligence. In India Punjabi is cool, and Punjabis dominate our culture.
Also, if you get a chance, visit West and South Delhi, both areas were settled by Punjabi (Hindu and Sikh) refugees from Pakistan in 1947, and Punjabi remains the first language in majority of homes in those areas even today.
I bet you guys don't know that Hindu and Sikh marriage is quirte common, not controversial at all, and that there is no contradiction between the two faiths. Millions of Hindus revere Sikhism and visit Gurudwaras more than they do Hindu temples, especially in Punjab and parts of Delhi.
I bet you can even tell us apart: for example: can you guess the faith of the followinhg two people by their names: Charanjeet Singh and Vijender Sandhu?
Bhai faceless trollers ko generalise karna band karo, Punjabi culture ko recognise India ne hi karwaya hai, har cheez pe hindutva ghusaaoge, to islamic terrorism pe bhi generalisation hoga
In india Punjab has become the Sikh Culture. Thats the reason haryana and pahari people separated. In Pakistan everyone is a punjabi that live in punjab.
@@BrokenSoldier1515 you’re broken in true sense. 38% of population in Punjab is Hindu about 2% Christian.
Dude you are explaining your innocence to these Islamists?
20:38 Hardcore Hindu Hatred, through Pakistani Cinema starts here, portraying Hindus as Killers & butchers while Islam as innocent cute religion, while exactly the opposite has been true in Kashmir
If Hindus were killers, they wouldn’t have been just 1% of the population today while 🐷 population is 99%
@@anuchugh31 thats why hindu punjabis speak hindi and not punjabi 🤨🤨
@@anuchugh31 thats why hindu punjabis speak hindi and not punjabi 🤨🤨
A prolific difference between hindutva and islamofascism is that hindutva is anti imperialist but islamofascism supports British imperialist policies
What a joke. RSS was hand in hand with Colonial and Tipu Sultan and others ....
Ghanta. Sanghis are boot lockers of the british
Thats why VD Savarkar Declared Himself the Son of the British Crown in Kala Pani Jail. Thats why the Hindutva Support the imperialist state of israel for Stealing the Land of Palestine. Oh My So Much Anti-Imperialism 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And what Term is this Islamofadcism. Dont invent Terms which have no real meaning and no support in academic scholarship.
RSS never fought the britishers
Lol. Hindutva is anti imperialist😂😂😂😂 bro firstly Sorryworker used to write mercy petitions to Brits. Secondly, pro RSS people support Israel's occupation of Palestine which is a result of British imperialism.
Me Sikh hu par India ka base Hindu tha aur rahega.All indian faiths are branches of the tree called sanatan (hindu) ...this is a fact ..political agenda of my nation or any other country cannot change this fact.politician of any country use religion as a voting tool, this is a fact too..but if anyone want to understand India ,they have to know about Hindu dharam because kisi ko acha lge ja na lage hum sab aate toh wohi se hai aur isme pakistani bhi shamil hai...idinitity crisis yahi hai ke jo jo hai ya tha woh woh maan ne ko tyar nahi ..hope things get better in the future for all humankind.
There's no identity crisis in Pakistan. It's totally useless topic. We are Hindustani and Pakistani at the same time. Being a Pakistani is my national identity and being a Hindustani is my civilization identity. Hindustan is the name of a continent not a country.
Paaji lekin aaj ke kai Sikh bhi is brainwashing me phans gaye hain isliye kitna conversion ho raha hai sikhon ko😞.I hope all our Sikh brothers regain their dharmic roots so that they can understand their values as well
@@NishantjhaBbagiyya bihari is teaching nationalism.....but his states are full of vioolence caate religion based hatred.....wo to tum roj social media pe khud hi failate honge..bhagt
@@SyedaSamanGulzar The term Hindu was coined by Persians for People of Indus Sindh ( now in Pakistan). Hindu and Indus valley don't exist on the east of Sindh. They are polytheists of Gangudesh. It was Mahmood Ghouri who started calling gangudeshis as Hindus and his conquered areas as Hindusthan. There was no Hindusthan before Ghouri and no India before British. The term India was invented by Europeans for their own geographic references just like they invented the term Africa. Current Pakistani regions, Indian punjab and Kashmir were part of Mughal and British created Hindusthan/ India for less than 700 years, out of its over 10,000 years of history. Kingdoms from Northwest ( current Pakistan) like Maurya, Kushan, Dahir, Pirthiviraj etc have always invaded, plundered ganga jamuna ( current India minus chinese Burmese Tibet Portuguese regions of Northeast "India" and beyond that were forcefully captured by the British and included in their India). Mauryans alone killed 30 million ganga jamnis. Maurya didn't know what India hindusthan or bharat was. If Pakistanis can't claim Ghouri, Abdalli, Mohammad bin Qasim their heroes then India can't claim Maurya , Kusha, Dahir their heroes. Ask south Indians, They hated indus valley and its kingdoms and refused to call themselves Hindus untill Indra Gandhi bombed them twice.
Hindus have the lost the plot with dharma there is no more dharma in India 😢
Even for intellectuals like these, history starts from Mughals. Do you people know Bout the alumni of Taxshila, which geographically unfortunately, in Pakistan now but its legacy shall always be of Bharat because Islam has devoid and uprooted Pakistanis from its history, culture and character of the land. Such bemoaning podcasts cannot change a country for which Religion is beyong everything in life.
They’re talking about modern history not ancient history
u have nothing to do with taxila we are the inheritors of gandhara we are the same ppl that lived there not u upwalas bengalis or dravidian kallus u claiming our countries name our river our ppl our history our civilisations doesnt fucking matter go name urself bharat ur countries named after something it isnt
Seriously…u r so quick to play the victim card u don’t realize they r talking about the last few hundred years…not about a 1000 year old civilization. BTW… Taxila is taught in Pak schools along with trips to the cite
@@AI-uc1vsVictim card?? The history of yout Pakistani studies starts from Him Qasim. Please don't even talk
What I find ridiculous from a section of Punjabis(particularly Jatts on both sides), is they always imagine a "Sikh-Muslim unity". The Punjabi Christian is the "choora" in Pakistan and the Hindu Punjabi not worth of friendship. Why is it so?
Well said Bro.heard many podcasts on this topic but even in our Punjab history starts only from last 500 years.Though recent podcast from Syed Muzzamil on Lahore was a refreshing change and an eye-opener
@@Mjjjyyy Pakistani christians are not considered low caste. But i will not say that non-muslim minorities dont face any discrimination 🙁
@@sifarshoonaya2534 It not about 500 or 1000 yrs. It's just making one enemy and making your side pious. Maybe exactly what the RW across the world is accused of.
Jatt supremacy
@@BrokenSoldier1515The case of Asia Bibi only revels the inherent casteism of Pakistani Punjabi society.
It may have been irrelevant for Zia-ised people of today's Pakistan, but in India, the symbolic around the cup of water is well known. Under false case of blasphemy, the Muslim jaatnis of that village in fact did a casteistic lynching against that Christian chamari. Concept of "religion purity" on water cup is non existant in Islam, but Concept of "caste purity" on water cup is existant in the Indian caste system.
Pakistani society is currently a society pretending to be Muslim, to be Arab, Persian, Turk or whatever, whatever except what they are really, at least recognising of what they are the most closer.
27:01 at that time hindhus were in majority in lahore that's why all religions were acceptable in LAHORE
Nai bhai majority nai te.. Amritsar lahore both had same demographics. Today both have 0 % diff faith. So here this logic dont apply
@@Pandit-kt9yeAmritsar has 0% different faith? Amritsar is like 50-50 Hindu and Sikh, are you stupid?
Lahore was not majority Hindu though, but it is true that Hindus and Sikhs made up most of the city's upper class.
Read again the red cliff award gao.mutray, if hindus were in majority it would have been part of india, even a slim majoŕity of muslims would have granted it to india like gurdaspur, it being part of pak proves it was overwhelmingly muslim
By that logic,Karachi should have been the part of India post partition.Yes,Lahore had majority of Muslims but Hindus had dominated the majority of economics of the city.Institutions like Arya Samaj has their HQ in Lahore.Paxtanis ignored the history and demographics of every region and in the quest of becoming urdu speaking turks and arabs, they killed the beauty of entire region.
He's proudest of Karachi for letting a Christian cross stand...
😂😂
And in Comparison, in India there are Millions of Crosses Everywhere and Millions of churches Too
@@Health-Blitz Not Millions - unless you were trying to be sarcastic. There are close to 700,000 Churches, Shrines, Basilicas and Grottos of Christian faith recognized by various Denominations, Diocese, Parishes and Christian Bodies
@@Health-Blitz I'm a proud Indian Christian and I have never been discriminated against in this beautiful country.. it's not about religious symbols.. it's about giving equal rights and opportunities..
Indian Christian are second most educated and richest demographic.. second only to Jain in education and Sikh in earning..
That speaks volumes of Indian constitution and culture
@@TheGrimStoic yes that's why I love my india from the bottom of my heart
@@rohand04 I'm not even a Christian and I love Jesus - his kindness, forgiving nature, non-violence and love for sinners and lepers is just so inspiring - so much virtue and wisdom in the 10 commandments - and message of peace and brotherhood - it resonates with my Hindu brain.
Edit: I love the way Britishers celebrate Christmas - why are they so bashful about saying Merry Christmas nowadays - shouldn't become so woke, man
Can't understand why every guest tries to justify current and/or past mistakes by Pakistan by drawing false equivalences with India.
When it comes to fanaticism, there can be no comparison between the two counties.
Well guess what you are living in delulu.
We are literally the same people, just that one side probably had better leaders than the other. Ek supreme charismatic leader hi lagta hai south asians ko bevkoof banane ke liye chaahe vo hindu, muslim, sikh ya koi bhi ho.
Suggestion to My Indians , Don't Watch Such Content . Don't Give them Viewership. There's lots of Better Informative and even Entertaining Channels to Watch Than To Watch These People Crying and Complaining All the Time.
If You Could Get Dollars for Doing Bakwaas , Then Paxtan Would be the Wealthiest Nation on Earth
Don't Give Any Importance To Their Bakwaas, Let them Do It Twice a Week for the Next 30-40 years too
You are right, it's petty of us
@@Skywimz We will be very thankful of Indians will stay away from our contents . But it's Indians obsession and u guys cannot help . Still u will watch and comment sh*it
There are 1000s of incidents like that of Kanhaiya Laal
Even in India, millions of Hindus are facing crime at the hands of Momins, and they say that momin are being potrayed in a wrong way.
They see things from their DHA lense. They may belong to the 2 % decent momins, but 98 % are indecent.
Couldn't agree more
@@Skywimz We even don't want Indians in out contents but its Indians are obsessed with pakistan so u guys can't help . Still u keep coming
FYI, In Jammu, they speak Dogri. Bit like hill Punjabi.
Dogri is a dialect of punjabi
@IqbalBakht It is. no doubt
@IqbalBakhtjust because you and your twisted ideology is irrelevant, doesn't what others say is irrelevant.
@IqbalBakht exactly shows the regional racist mindset. Congratulations this podcast is specially dedicated to you
@IqbalBakht exactly shows the regional racist mindset. Congratulations this podcast is specially dedicated to you
One thing that becomes abundantly clear from the discussion above is that apparently educated Pakistanis have very little understanding of Sikhism, Sikhs, and Maharaja Ranjit Singh's rule.
Pakistan is lucky to have honest and selfless military people who love the country. They have safely invested Pakistani money in Papa John's pizza franchise and real estate in London, Canada, and Dubai. They have also bought an island near Australia. They have made sure that Pakistani people don't waste their money on luxury items such as wheat flour, vegetables, electricity, clothing, and education.
You really expect Indians to appreciate Pakistanis after consistent attacks by the latter for the last 7 decades? If Pakistani outlook towards India changes, you would not see any jingoism in Bollywood.
Bhai, main uttarakhand se hun, aur as a civilization i can peacefully live in Kerala. Cause we are a civilizational nation. Hence we are one and doesn't find it difficult to coexist.
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@@dharithrinarakesari3744 wo sahi Keh rha hai bhai ancient bharat ka connection esa hi tha jyadatar bhai
Baloch people have their own identity, they don't consider themselves as Pakistani or Irani.
Yeah According to the People Living in indian Up and Gujrat😝😝
@@BrokenSoldier1515 Yah speaks who a fuddu pakistani punjabi. Who doesn't even speak his mother tounge to speak and UP orginated language urdu 👻👻👻
@@BrokenSoldier1515 And actually you should change your name to broken aka bhikari who is depends on Indians for his bread and butter. 🤣🤣🤣
@@rohitrohra karachi was 50% hindu thats why sindh’s parliament was the first state to pass the Pakistan’s Resolution. Sindh literally created Pakistan and you are saying karachi was50% hindu😱😱😱😱😱 where do guys get this stuff 🤥🤥🤥 kya phonk ke comment kar rhy ho😵💫😵💫
@@BrokenSoldier1515😂😂 Literally 40% Muslim population can't raise resolution?😂 Where u get f*ck ur brain and thinking..?
If before British we had no idea of religion Why did Central Asians abduct only Hindu women ,then why turks broke only hindu and sikh temples and when sikhs and hindus fought no Gurudwara or temples were broken.Most Importantly Why under every muslim king were forced conversions carried out if relegion was so insignificant?
@@mok-f3u reference dena temple and idol destruction ka by hindu kings.
@@HarryPratt22are bhagt he kya, simply Google karna......tumara aaajkl ka churan nalanda University bhi bakhtiyar Khilji se pehle kin kin logo ne todi thi.......brmahnonne kitne busshists temples tode he???...Jain sadhuo kese mara jata tha??.....
I won't be aa much as Muslim invaders did....but there were many incidents.
@@mok-f3uThe temples of high importance jyotirlinga aur shaktipeeth were never broken by any Hindu Sikh Buddhist king.Whichever Hindu if broke any other kingdoms temple he took the idol and consecrated them in temples of his own kingdom with respect, unlike Muslims who broke temples and idols and buried them under mosque stairs(as written in aurangzeb biography).They broke temples so that society could be demoralised and carrying out conversions became easier
@@nikhildeshmukh6221 citations or academic references ka mtlb pata he ya phir hawabazi hi aati he?
During sikh era badshahi masjid lahore was turned into a stable.
35:15 isilyie pandit kaa exodus hua bhai please yarr jhoot nhi aur hum nehru wala desh tha isiliye population clean nhi hua agar 1947 mein hi modi hota to addha pakistan humara hogay hota aur ye 14% 1.4% hote aaj
😂😂😂😂 kch b
Modi se China toh roka nahi jaa rha joh ghus gaya hai bada aya adha Pakistan humara hota 😂😂 main bhi Indian hu par teri tarah ghalatfehmi me nahi hu.... Only Indira Gandhi had the guts to break Pakistan into two halves and for a legit reason.
@@trojanwar760lehru ji ne Aksai chin dediya uspe bhi kuch bol de
@@trojanwar760china to 15 trillion gdp hai. tera bap bhi nahi rok skta😂
@@trojanwar760ek min, koi proof toh de china aur territory le chuka hai, satellite images toh aisa kuch nahi batati
Kashmiri Hindu Ne banki hindus ke sath milke kashmiri Muslim ka genocide nahi kiya,Lekin Kashmiri Muslims ne banki Muslims ke sath kashmiri Hindu ka genocide kiya hai.If it had been only about regional and linguistic affinities to Bangladesh me hindu population itni neeche nahi jati aur west bengal me itni nahi badhti, for Muslims it has always been about relegion.
Aur joh aaj kal mob lynching aam ho gyi hain woh hindus kisne banaye?
@@trojanwar760Don't talk anecdotally Muslims ki population India me badhi hai aur Hindus ki pakistan Bangladesh me kam Hui hai that's the basic difference between 2 Nations.Isolated events quote krne se community ka hal nahi pata chalta
@@trojanwar760Nupur Sharma k statement ke baad Muslims ne 6 Hindus ko stab krke maar diya aise cases rioting ke pakistan me kyun nahi milte socha hai?
@@NishantjhaB what kind of stupidity are you writing. Hindu population has increased in both Pakistan and bangladesh as the population grew. India men bhe waisy he muslim population increase hoye hai jaisy population growth ka rate tha. Aisy stupid baten tum logon ko kon btata hai😒😒
2 Musalmano ney India mey Kanhaiyalal ka Murder Kiya
Wo kya tha. ?? @@trojanwar760
Who Wants J Sai Dipak vs Pakistan experience?
Pakistan experience channel is not worth enough to host J Sai Deepak, he will eat these Pakistani guys with facts and figures 😂
Are you kidding? Even i have differences with Sai deepak but he's a supreme court lawyer
@@SLLR4594overconfidence hi Ayodhya Mai dubaya tum logo ko😂
@@Haricr73 Shehzad Ghias is also a lawyer but not in practice.
@@SLLR4594it would be interesting to see him actually facing tough questions and not the fanboys who invite him to their podcasts. TBH he probably doesn't have the balls to face actual journalists or podcasters with facts....tabhi toh bas apne chamcho ke paas jaata hai
HINDU NATIONALIST BJP held state of Assam revelation of population data says, 40% Muslims ☪️ & 37% Christians ✝️ , while Hindu FINALLY Becomes MINORITY in their Once OWN state.
THIS IS INDIA 🇮🇳
As per Javed Akhtar, he is not Muslim
If Daljeet's Punjabi identity is a problem then why India has several states based on languages where Govt. schools promote regional languages? 😂
In the movie Gangs of wasseypur , Ramadhir Singh's famous dialogue "
Jab tak Hindustan mein cinema hai , log ..... bante rahenge "
But Hindustan mein cinema na ho , toh woh pakistan jaisa ban jayega 😂
Pakistan has far less problems than the problems India faces. There are 12 freedom fights going on in India but only kashmir is highlighted to blame Islam and Pakistan. The whole northeast India which was created by the British after stealing Chinese, Burmeses, Tibet lands is a no go zone. Even Indians need permit to enter certain regions. No foreign media is allowed. Army has been deployed their to target kill freedom fighters. Indian deep state has unleashed murder and rape gangs many times. India is moving beharis and odiisa locals to all of northeast to change the demographics of those regions. These two zoos aka India and Pakistan were created by the British.
Ab naya logic ye hindu alag hai wo hindu alag hai. Kuuch bhi bolenge khuud ko justify karne ke liye. Paata nahi kaha se chale aate hai 🤣🤣🤣
SAME PLACE FROM WHERE YOU DROPPED OFF.
@@kishwer-w9k pehle to tum ye pata kaar lo kaha ka DNA hai yaha ka ki arabic ya persian 🤣🤣🤣. Phir dusro ko gyan deena
I KNOW ABOUT MY "DNA". WE ARE BRAVE AND DO NOT BEND OUR HEADS"ALL KIND"
@@kishwer-w9k Aisa kya brave like 16 dec or like kargil not accepting dead bodies. Ok leave that old thing tell me one thing are uighers and kurds muslims or not 👻👻👻
@@amitsaha9436 I DO NOT MAKE POLIES OF PAKISTAN AS "I AM PUNJABI MAHAJAR FROM BATTALA, A SMALL VILLAGE IN INDIA" I HATE CHINA.
Jutt is pure Hindu Jaat .. from Punjab .. they follows Gurunanak dev .. We all Indians(Hindus) go to Gurudwara because of Sikh Gurus , Sikh are Brave Hindus .. but bloodlines are same .. that’s why every Hindu respect Sikh(Sardar ji ) .
Hypocrisy of highest order
Pakistan is made on religion but India should learn from us what a mistake it was
India 🇮🇳 continue being secular --wow what preachings !!
Cultural ethos and ties in India are way stronger than you can ever reckon …even without your preaching we continue to enjoy our diversity as our core strength
Md Siraj example was not required shows a narrow modest again and zero tolerance
Pakistan is an exception, the norm being all the European democracies, USA, Latin America etc.
Central Asia flowed two ways.
Our existence is not solely defined by religion.
I don't want to fight w you. Fighting is exactly the reason our country is suffering today. Main Modi ya Rahul Gandhi ki politics ke liye countrymen se nahi ladunga. Peace out ma'am ♥️
Saw one interview of one Sindhi family who came to India because of the injustice happening in Sindh to Sindhi Muslims and Sindhi Hindu both.
But I don't hope somebody will voice them.
The truth is religion made Pakistanis blind.
How many drinks did you have before this podcast? 😅
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I felt the same too ..
He is speaking as if in a dream.
@@SuvaMukherjeeapparent lack of inhibitions is a give away 😂😂
@@ThePakistanExperience😂 = Aye
As soon as he mentioned they were discussing something earlier at ‘dinner’ sabb samajh aa gaya 😅
If shezad calls mutiny war of independence of 1857 then shezad is a hindutvadi because veer savarkar was the first man who called mutiny of 1857 as a war of independence
Pakistan nearly wiped out its entire Hindu & other minority population, situation is that bad that Govt. of Pakistan no longer release minority statistics any more in fear of global sanctions. While in India, Muslim population has increased in past 75yrs significantly.
Hindu Population is increasing rapidly in Pakistan, what you're saying is a lie. There was 4 million Hindu's in Pakistan in 2010, now 8 million and increasing. Millions of Hindus thrive here.
And we have no evidences of that except of mere secular rantings...
First of all, increasing population is a indicator of illiteracy and poverty, not the sign of prosperity.
@@vinay249 Its not illiteracy, its religious fanaticism but even that requires and conducive environment which doesn't exist in FACIST countries like Pakistan.
@@tushars4038 by your logic, hindus population is at the top and is too increasing along with muslim that means hindus are also religious fanatics right?
Are we the consequence of an identity crisis? I was today days old when I learnt that
Muhammad Ali was son of Jinnahbhai Poonja...
who was son of Poonja Gokuldas Meghji...a HINDU.
Muhammad Ali was part of the first generation that was raised devoid of Hindu practices. So, someone, who was a practical Hindu a generation back, just up and shunned his own lineage so hard into oblivion he created another nation
Like did the whole entire family/ clan convert so entirely and completely that they lost all empathy, connection and belonging with the Hindu community? All sense of safety? By that means were his ancestors a generation or 2 back fighting Muslims? Or were they co-existing? At what point did that co-existence became such an impossible concept to them as a family? Was the disconnect a class divide that erupted when Jinnahbhai Poonja became richer than his relatives?
The urge to bring in hindutva without realizing what that really is, i mean how do i describe it. I think shezhad maybe a decent a guy but when he talks about hindutva and how india is enforcing hindu identity on itself, it is just baffling. Either he studies and does his research on what foreign media and opposition is saying or is a momin who subconsciously wishes that India is going the same path pakistan did
Vo log kya kre jinka dhrm bhi common sense nhi sikhata aur desh bhi to kya krege
@@chetnasingh7747 aray mai kehta hu dharam jaisa bhi ho, upar wale ne brain toh dia hai. Khud bhi logic lagale thoda. Wo bhi nahi karte pakistani. Aur ye toh moderate and rational pakistani hai
Even you don't know what hindutva is brother. Tum bhi kisi se suni sunai baaton pe chal rahe ho toh dusro ko gyaan mat do.
@@anuroopchatterjee1746 neither did I say i know. To paint something good or bad you must know what youre talking about. Mai nahi kehta hindutva acha hai ya bura, lekin jo bura bol rhe hai vo toh proof ke saath kyu nahi bolte? mai gyaan de nahi raha, tumhare gyaan ka source maang rha hu jisko dene mei tumhari nani marr jaati hai
@@anuroopchatterjee1746 maine kab kaha mujhe pta hai. mai ni kehta hindutv acha hai ya bura, lekin jo log bura bol rhe hai vo source kyu nahi dete? proof dete samay tumhe dikkat kyu hoti hai, source ke saath bolo ki xyz reasons ke vajah se bura hai. gyaan de nahi raha, tumhare gyaan ka source maang rha hu
Irony died a million times in this episode! Rest in piece paxstan!
India me har bandda ek din me 4,5,6, languages bolta hai. (1) jo us area ki language hai jaise haryana me khadi bolly (2) english (3) hindi (4) punjabi (5) mixed urdu sanskrit ke kucch words. Bas yaaro kya batau her 10 km ke baad 10% to 15% language me change aa jaata hai. 22 language to government paper work me use hoti hai. Baki un languages ki tang baa tod ke sublingual to sainkado languages ban jati hai ❤
The British were shrewd enough to realise the need to bring over their fiercest rivals to their side - and in the name of respecting martial races - they recruited Pathans , Punjabi Mussalmans, Sikhs, Ahir Hindus and Gurkhas - into regiments of British India.
3:52 Indian at this point be like: Aap haamara naam use maath kijiye. Defamation case laga denge 😂😂
It’s good to see intellectual conversations happening on both sides of the border. Particularly on independent platforms like this. One might have a difference of opinion on a few points, but these conversations are certainly helpful. Well done!
Classic example of retaining one’s identity is Indonesia… They never try to shy away from their Hindu past… Infact Ramayan is very popular there… South Asians and south East Asians may choose whatever religion they want but culturally everyone is a Hindu/Buddhist…
Proudest think that itna brda cross in krachi..... 😅😅😅ye btata he Pakistanio ki halat
So, In 1947 when the Barath was split 25% of Pakistani population were Hindus and were are they now what happened to them, if you are talking about the identities the same Kashmir came from Hindus and Lahore is named after the son of Lord Sri Ram, Pakistan is an failed experiment which have no idea where did they come from or where there are going, the idea on which that country is formed is HATE, it is going be defaulted now or later
I don't if Lahore is really named after the name of Lord Sri Ram but I've heard here from Old locals, they say this place have always been expensive and for the punjabi phrase "leya hore" meaning "bring more" made it to Leya hore ... La-hore. Please do a little bit research and reply me whether your point is right or mine. I just don't have enough time to research. Thanks in advance.
@@memer7867tumhare dikkat ye hai ki jo history ya even fiction bhi tumhare religion se purane hai tum usko manne ya uske bare me information padne se hi inkar kr dete ho.
Big fan of Adeel Afjal sir......❤
Love and respect from Allahabad (UP).
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Whenever you visit India,Please come at Allahabad, It shall be absolute pleasure for me to welcome you.
32:00 - Mengel Panday....
Have some SHAME 😡😡
it's MANGAL PANDEY, The FREEDOM FIGHTER of 1st War for UNITED INDIA Independents in 1847.
Show some respect 🙏
In India Punjabi are known for a community of courage and justice with a very humorous tone.
Why there was Sindhi Muhajir issue in West pakistan and Bengali Bihari conflict in East pakistan while people migrating from West Punjab , Sindh and East Bengal didn't face much discrimination in India ?
Because they assimilated into India?
Bhai aaj pi ke baithe ho kya? Awaz badli hui hai
I dont know about the bengal side but the muhajir issue in karachi was funded by fauji establishment and later some indian elements were involved ad well.
@@ThePakistanExperience It's easy to get assimilated in Hindu society
@@ThePakistanExperience They did. "rafooji" was a word in Punjabi sometime back. Since idea of India was never based on basis of exclusion, everyone got okay with it.
Yes there is commanlity among Punjabis
I am Jatt Sikh of Bains/Wains Clan
Same as of Fawad Chaudhary
We both decended from Same ancestor named Bains/Wains from where we took our clan name
When you talk about religious extremism in pakistan and inbetween say in india its also rising is intellectual dishonesty.
You try to compare pickpocket with dakus.
You yourself mentioned their was time when punjab had religious tolerance. Who was in majority at that time it was hindus. I can also show you hundred of incidents by muslim against hindus in india. Can you show me one incident by hindu in pakistan against islam?
Apostasy is punishable by death from day 1 in islam. This is first argument of religious hate in islam against rest of the world.
In the 3rd battle of panipat (marathas vs Afghans), the Maratha army had representation from hindu, muslim (ibrahim gardi).
After the Maratha's lost, their women were being taken by the afghans. Its was the Punjabis (sikhs) who rescued these women from a fate worse than death.
He is right about congress accepting partition 😂😂 40:06 . Personally I get scared with sane people from Pakistan.
I’m a Sindhi Hindu whose parents had migrated from
Karachi. Can you do a podcast in Sindhi
Itni achi nahee hay meri Sindhi
Shezad Bhai if you are native Sindhi plz try to one podcast in Sindh request 🙏@@ThePakistanExperience
Really why the hell yr. phly ye sun k khushi hoti thi k there are some Sindhi creators like junejo, you, samo then I got to know junejo can't speak sindhi and now you are saying the same thing. Why?@@ThePakistanExperience
Pervez Hoodbhoy is Sindhi too
@@ThePakistanExperiencehe is a hinduphobic man yar
As a Punjabi it saddens me to see that Punjabi is dying in Punjabi, despite fact that it’s our native language and it is a lot older than urdu … all thanks to the brainwashing of the Punjabis by the state
Where are the Pakistanis in comment sections 😂😂
Jammu's majority language is Dogri and we are ethnically different to Punjabis, and no we dont any feel affinity to punjab.Never did. See you couldn't even tell what the language of jammu yet you guys seem to act like experts on J&K
IT WERE KASHMIRIES WHO SUPPORTED "URDU" IN OUR PUNJAB, KASHMIRIES ARE FAMOUS FOR HA HA HA READ MUNTO AND KRISHEN CHUNDAR SHORT STORIES(BY THE WAY NUNTO WAS ALSO KASHMIRI)
35:29 bhai go wikipedia kashmir mein utne hindu nhi rehte bass jammu mein jayeda rehte hain 1950 se hi unka katle aam suru hua shehzad bhai with respect wikipedia kholo
@IqbalBakhtIf they were so endearing to Jammu, why would they migrate to the lala land of Pakistan when if at all they were two thirds, u wannabe Arab
As Pakistani Sindhi Hindu, I hope the podcast like honest TPE push the envelope of constructive and intellectual thinking in our society. As someone studying in Italy, I can vouch for the fact culture and language make everyone feel included regardless of their ethinicies and religion. It is one of the reasons why as such nations get united and prosperous. Great effort and content team TPE!
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RRR IS TELUGU WHICH IS LANGUAGE OF ANDHRA PRADESH.
My bad
This is what you get, when you care about opinions from those people who know nothing about you or your culture.
Shezad ,RRR was a Telgu movie , you called it Malyalam but we North lndians also make the same mistake.They have 5 states ,each having its own distinctive language, culture,dance forms and traditions.We call them South lndians and consider Telgu ,Tamil , malyalam and Kannada language as same , because We can not understand any of them .But hum North wale bhee naukri kerne vehin jaate hain because Gurgaon and Bombay ke elawa koi job nahi hamare yahan .My son is in Bengaluru,capital of karnatka working for Amazon ,daughter is in Hyderabad,capital of Andhra Pradesh and Telangana.Ghe people over there are very good and respectful ❤
My bad ❤️
India is a melting pot. Everyone is welcome here, but they have to accept Indian culture. We will not accept radicalization and abuse of other faiths here. The founder of the Ahmadi sect of Islam and the founder of Islam both have equal rights to live in peace here. No one is superior to the other. We don't accept the supremacy of any religion. For us, Krishna, Shankar, Mahavir, Buddha, Gorakh, Mohammad, Nanak, Osho, Patanjali... all represent GOD equally. We believe religion is like rivers. They move towards the same destination.
76 years se inka ye identity crisis wala rona chal hi raha hai 😂😂
The logic of Adeel sir on Kashmir is a bit weird, dogri is spoken in jammu which is more closer to languages like Garhwali and Kumaoni which are spoken in himachal pradesh and Uttarakhand, than punjabi. So according to his logic how can Pakistan claim "azad Kashmir"?
I'm not a hater, been a follower of TPE since a long time, but sometimes when you are talking about such things you should be more careful and at least aware.
Hi Shehzad, you may want to examine why Pakistan has dual citizenship and its unintended impact on why Pakistani invest outside instead of in Pakistan.
The lack of identity disconnect plays a contributory role in this. It’s why Pakistani Army leaders are retiring to Canada rather than their own country.
RRR is a Telgu movie
True on the Kashmiri vs non-Kashmiri. Prof Bhim Singh of Panthers Party, and others in pre-1989 JKLF (which had Hindus too), were vocal supporters of Kashmir being a distinct identity from rest of India.
Not found anything interesting, same thing said over and over.
No self-critique, just bitching about problems that are out of their hands instead of talking about real issues.
Has this guy ever tried to even invite an Indian Muslim that can give a realistic view to this guy about India and the Muslims living in India.
Dude, invite someone like Abhijit Iyer Mitra, Kushal Mehra, or the folks from India This Week (Khalid Baig and the other lady who I can't recall the name of) or Shehzad Poonawala who is a spokesperson of BJP and grill them.
the names you mentioned do not have qualifying IQ to have any sane conversation
Bhakts are already here advocating for RSS and Hindutva.
When all historians agree on same lies it called history
no it's called Islamic History bro
1:20 That's absolutely true about being "nation of nations", that's true about India too but no one will dare say it here either because of sensitivities of people who believe different ethno-nations should abandon their identities & languages or at least limit it to being considered local or regional in favour of assuming a broader identity that they themselves grew up with. In other words, adopt their identity over our own.
3:35 Yes, pakistan is technically North West India. Also, the name Sindhudesh legitimately applies to what is now pakistan but I doubt anyone ever thought the Desh they've around the Sindhu River should be known as such.
39:53 That was much later on.
These ISI UA-camrs should focus on their own country's development rather than finding ways to gain Indian viewership
They speak dogri in J&K. People in Himachal, Punjab (India) also speak the same language. It's an officially recognized language by Indian Constitution.
I think some Punjabi Muslims going mad after Moosewala has more to do with the psyche ki Sikhs will separate from India someday. Aur Hindu ka dushman dost hota hai. Though won't paint everyone with the same brush
Not really. Most Pakistanis don't know about Khalistan movement. It's just that Indian media has painted an average Pakistani as anti-India that people like you are skeptic of anything positive that is seen in Pakistan. Most Pakistanis are not anti-India. They're just normal people with normal dreams of a loving partner, proud parents, happy life etc. India plays no role in our day to day life
I AM PUNJABI I NEVER GIVE A THOUGHT TO DIVIDE MORE PUNJAB, ON THE OTHER HAND WE WANT TO SEE ONE STRONG PUNJAB OF INDIAN STATE AS WE WERE BEFORE. WHO ARE YOU? GUJRATI? WOW
@@MuhammadAbdullah-zj1ph Quite possible. But the state promotes animosity towards India and Hindus. Maybe a Pakistani who is illiterate and never went to school has a high chance of being inclusive and tolerant.
Lol Punjabi Muslims share the same language culture with Sikhs. They share nothing with 'Indians'.
Actually 1857 war was sepoys mutiny. It was Veer savarkar who called it first war of independence in 1909 . And it was sikh and gorkha regiment who was fight from the Britishers
Kashmir mein hindu ne baki hindu ko support nhi kiya aur apko kashmiri muslims ne dilli pahuncha diya. Sunne mein batein kadwi lagengi but sach hai
I'm a proud Punjabi, and I don't believe a Country should be like where the Identity, Culture, Civilization and Language of the People needs to be compromised, in case of Pakistan deliberately created so called "Nationalism" where each and everything of the Natives was changed and imposed the Culture, Civilization and Language of those People who were actual the real culprits, who break their Country, and also brainwashed their children, so they feel shame while speaking their own Mother tongue!!
Modern era mai Islam mai coexistence ka koi concept nai hai and same Pakistan mai b koi coexistence ka concept nai hai 😒
Thats why Islam Spread in all Corners of world cause there is no concept of discrimination in Islam based on caste or colour. Such big population of muslims in the indian region is the biggest proof that people dont wanted to be part of the hindu religions.
Let me correct your host . In 1947 genocide took place in jammu region not in Kashmir because muslims were in absolute majority there. You can check it if you visit upper punjab like sialkot majority of people who migrated to punjab are from jammu region not kashmir.
Ex Muslim's ko bhi bulao 😂
I am Hindu and will say it very clearly that Hindutva atleast in the current form is nothing but cheap replica of Islamism 🙏
I am a Muslim and I say that Islam is a Cult 😢 and not a religion 😅
I really do not resonate with your views on israel and Palestine. Though your views on language and culture over religion is something I appreciate and kind of agree upon. I speak marathi language and definitely cannot tolerate other languages dominating over my language.
i m also Marathi. languages evolve with time. samskrit prakrit marathi. english is the language with all the knowledge of the world
THANK U FOR SUPPORTING ME. "ONE GREAT HINDU ISTAN" NOT DIVED INDIA.
Is anyone from Pakistan listening this and agree with him or it's just Indian audience here
I am listening to him and I have been listening to him for years and I miss those times when his comment section was not corrupted by Indian trolls. Many Pakistanis listen to him. It’s just that we don’t comment unnecessarily and spew hate for no reason.
Nice to know I just wanted to know what kind of mindset most people in pakistan have is it like you or like crazy like adeem religious fanatics
Nearly all Indians.
ISPR Sponsored pakistani film industry.
Sidhu is legend live in our heart and minds
4:12 Haa Bhaii Talvar k Dar se Salvaar Pata hai Hmko❤😂😂MaashaOm
Smooth change of Government in Nepal through non-confidence motion. But, GHADICHOR played havoc with his own country.
Extremely disappointed that this so called SCHOLAR is using word MUTINY for 1857's war of Independence and than he also criticizes k hum SHANAKHT KIO NAI MANTAY.
bas krde bhai Shehzad, isme se jitna GHEE nikalna tha nikal lia, he doesn't know shit about other things.
Moosa Khan is anti Hinduism and Hindu movie, in India we never made anti Islam and Muslims movie, but we show Pakistan or Terrorist as enemy but never shown Islam or Muslims as enemy. Even Hindu director Rajkumar Hirani made a movie, My name is khan and I am not a Terrorist and many songs have God/Bhagwan/Allah names and many movies made for Islam and Hinduism too for good religions.
खुद के बनाए हुए वातावरण से बाहर निकलो और दोष हमेशा दूसरो के ऊपर मत डालो,एक बात समझ लो तुम पूरे पच्चीस करोड़ एक हुजूम हो तुम भी उसका हिस्सा हो।
Please stop this stupidity. You have already created your identity. This concept of Hindu and Sindhu was created by Muslims and British who just looted the lands and kingdoms which were following a particular dharam and culture. We were here from Afghanistan to Combodia and Bali. You never identified with it and keep going in circles with the same topic. Accept the fact you are now a Pakistani which is an Islamic identity different from the historical one. This debate will kill two nation theory as people of India have retained their respective identity but still live as a single nation. An advice, read modern day Indian historians like Vikram Sampat and Sandeep Sanyal to learn more about India's true history and not the one which was peddled by Nehruvian historians
Pakistan Today is Morphing into its Own Identity. The People of Past have no influence Today. We are Melting into A Single Nation Just like what Happened in Turkey or USA. And its Coming from a Punjabi ,All of whom’s Family Migrated from the other side of punjab.
پاکستان پائندہ باد
قوم پرست عناصر مردہ باد
These things happen in post industrial, highly urbanized societies. Pakistan is still a pre industrial agricultural society. So, that's not happening anytime soon here. Second, Pakistan is a state, not a nation. Punjabi, sindhi, pakhtoon, muhajir are nations. Every nation should have right to promote and preserve it's culture.
@@muhammadawais7109 But it has already happened. Just look at the big Four Urban areas karachi lahore capital region faisalabad. there you wont find today the qom prast elements.
@@BrokenSoldier1515 state policies towards pashtuns and balochs has led to nationalist tendencies
@@hamdankhan7296 thats why pathans live side by side in lahore and some even speak urdu with the punjabi accent 🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
Very sensible discussion. As a Pakistani, I get a reality check every time I hear your podcasts. We need more content like this so Pakistani thought can evolve.
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Mujhe koi pakistani ye btayega... Ki india ke bare mai ap log kuch be aake bol dete.... Jbki apke india ke bare mai abc tak ka pta nhi hai.... Kya Bo justified hai...... Jo tumhe right lga Bo bol diya ye kon sa logic hua........
Hindu inn logo ke al taqqiya se bache.
The guest lied through his teeth and the host allowed him to continue with his lie. Sikhs did not join the war of Independence or mutiny against British. They were wholly supporting British. Not a single Sikh opened fire against British in that war. The only people who were agitated against British in Punjab were Muslims and Hindus, particularly the latter. Punjab was relatively less hostile to British because its Muslim majority rather welcomed to British take over and considered them preferable to Sikh Shahi.
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Pakistani kashmiris are all punjabi or pushto bro. Real kashmiri speaking kashmiris are in India.
Thats why they want their Lands to Merge with Pakistan.
Not India. It's illegally occupied Kashmir by India.
@@SyedaSamanGulzar bro Pakistan invaded Kashmir in 1948 with tribal leaders.
Jinnah believed the kings of princely states decides whether the state joins India or Pakistan.
Nehru believe the people in the princely state gets to vote whether they want to do India or Pakistan that Jinnah didn't agree.
When Pakistan invaded Kashmir in 1948, the king of Kashmir hari Singh signed the instrument of accession to India. So by Jinnah's point of view Kashmir belongs to India.
If you hadn't invaded Kashmir in 1948, then Kashmir could have been part of Pakistan but now legally due to Kashmirs king singing the accession it belongs to India.
Not only that, Pakistan refused to follow the first step of the UN resolution to withdraw Pakistani troops from Kashmir then India would then there will be elections. Pakistan openly told UN they can't withdraw their troops to the UN hence failing the UN resolution.
Kashmir isn't part of Pakistan due to Pakistani politicians. Your loss now cry.
@@SyedaSamanGulzarkashmir was founded by a hindu kashmir= guru kashyap you muslims are outsiders get lost