One that I don’t think was mentioned but is a good blue spruce that is for small spaces is a Montgomery Blue Spruce. It’s been super easy to grow in zone 7a and looks fantastic year round.
Blue is such an underrated color in the landscape. Thanks so much for highlighting this very important color Jim. I love using it in groundcover plantings such as dianthus and ajuga...also certain varieties of sedum. It lends a cool tonal element to the garden and contrasts so well with warmer colors. Awesome video Jim.
Here in Russia, we absolutely in love with blue firs, like Glauca, Hoopsii, Blue Diamond, Kaibab, Iseli Fastigiate, Super Blue, Fat Albert and many others. Glad that you guys love them too. These trees make landscape more interesting especially in winter season. There are also very rare absolutely amazing dual color firs like Bialobok, Maigold, etc.
I often wonder if Chairman Putin knows those blue spruce in front of the Kremlin and the sacred Necropolis are All-American DNA and from Colorado home of NORAD? No one else in the world calls them "firs" so maybe it's a denial thing. No politics intended. Just curious.
Juniperus virginiana AQUAVITA and 'Glauca Compacta' are super frosty blue and do well in Raleigh. Cupressus glabra at the NCSU Forestry School have lasted 60 years, a bit aging now but in past decades they took all the heat, humidity, and hurricanes with ease.
These videos are amazing. Informative, educational, a pleasure to watch. I can’t get enough of these segments where it’s been broken down to different hues of the conifers and evergreens. Love it.
The Andorra juniper in my landscape is more of a green/blue hue but becomes a rockstar in the winter when it turns to a dramatic purple color. That is when it really shines. I have plans for an upright true-blue conifer like a blue arrow juniper, but that Monty might be something to look out for. Great video.
The problem with ground cover junipers, at least for me, are all of the tree seedling that pop up. By the time you see them they are really rooted in and difficult to pull. you also have to step on it to get to the middle to even try. If there was a way to prevent all of the oaks and maples from popping up I’d probably plant them. But we actually got rid of a ton of it when we moved here.
I lived in the Willamette Valley for almost a decade and this is making me miss the area. I am a sucker for PNW style gardens. These tours are awesome. Thank you!!
Love this video and blue conifers! I’ve started planting various conifers and Japanese maples in my garden in the last year- thanks for all the tips! Central Ohio 6A
We planted two Carolina sapphire blue cypress theee years ago, either side of our driveway at the top of a hill, next to the road. They truly are becoming statement pieces! We love them! Virginia zone 7a
I love my small weeping white spruce (Picea Glauca 'pendula') that I planted last year. In the future it will be a statement in the garden as well as our 'Silveray' Korean pine tree. I am a sucker for conifers and Japanese maples. Thanks Jim!
What an amazing garden!. Gosh I love the CO blue spruce at intro...we have one variety and it just is too hot for it to maintain the blue color in zone 7 East TN
SO EXCITED for you and Steph that you've made this aMAZing trip! Meeting up with Janey, Linda - wow! So very, very cool! Maybe you can meet up with Aaron and Laura when they come down to visit Jenny & Jerry. (but it would have been crazy fun to visit their property in Ontario). Beautiful, beautiful blue conifers! Man, that Iseli Nursery is inCREdible! Wow, wow, WOW!!!!!
Always gets my attention then gives me a good laugh when you say you're in "Boring, Oregon" 😮😅 Love all the Blue!🤩💙🩵💙 It's a stunning place for sure! Complete opposite of its name 😄
Bought a couple little potted blue spruce south of Tulsa for my SIL who really misses the evergreens from around Los Alamos NM. Deer killed her other one, so she’s keeping these potted on her large low covered porch/patio. There was a beauty of a blue spruce in one neighborhood where I grew up in sw Okla that we used to pause to drink in when looking at Christmas lights every year.
These are beautiful. Our blues are Bismarck palm, blue saw palmetto, Arizona cypress, some junipers, and many blue flowering plants (plumbago, sky vine, evolvulus, duranta, etc.) in zones 9 and south in FL.
Thanks for these vids from Isley. I’m zone 8b in the Pacific Northwest, and I get to enjoy blue conifers. I have blue star juniper, and it’s color can’t be beat. The most stunning blue is my dwarf blue hinoki cypress.
I have a Bush's Lace Engelmann as a screening plant, zone 7b in mostly shade and it seems to be very happy. They grow fast, about 15" a year so I'm not so sure it would be happy in a container. A beautiful conifer!
honestly was wondering about this specific thing just recently. no one seems to mention it but where i am at least (southern new england) every single blue spruce i see is in some way dying/struggling, we actually lost one that was super healthy for decades out of nowhere, and i haven't really seen a healthy one here since. I'll definitely be looking around at garden centers for some of these tbh.
amazing video! I want all of these but sadly I live in Houston. I did just purchase a Blue Pyramid and several of the blue star junipers last week and we are gonna give them a go. Thanks!
Thanks -- informative as always. As the leaves fall from the trees here in the NE, I'm looking more and more at how I can use evergreens for winter interest and for color, shape and textural contrast throughout the year. Conifers are such wonderful plants. I just wish I could find the more interesting varieties in my local nurseries -- how many Green Giants can the market absorb? Don't answer that question!
Beautiful color layering in this video. The blue really pops off the surrounding plants! In an attempt to incorporate some blue into my 6b KY landscape, I grabbed some of the ubiquitous blue star junipers. I struggle with them with the slow browning of some of the tips and sections. I prune off the dead but feel like I'm not getting ahead. I wonder how much of this is normal and how much of this is user error (light/water/location ,etc). I just love the "true blue" color! Any tips?
Hello first time watching your channel. I was wondering how do you start in the landscaping trade and how to advance In it. Which one focuses more on ornamental plants .
Jim, There were 3 low-growing, blue plants just left of the Picea glauca "Pendula" that looked a bit like agave. Can you identify them & give their growth parameters? Thank you. 😊
Just visited the website to find out about visiting & it says scheduled tours for current or potential customers only, which equals wholesale buyers, which means the general public can’t go 😢
@@kkeenan536every visitor is a potential source of disease and visitors require more staff. That makes these plants more expensive. Jim gave us a good tour, enjoy it!
I am zone 8a over on the SE coast of NC. I would love some blue conifers. Question: Since conifers are slow growing and the blue needs sunshine I am wondering if I could container grow them, summer them in shade and winter them in the sunshine. Would that be a workable strategy or just a LOT of work?
I think I heard you say that Isle nursery is not open to the general public but wanted to get clarification on that? Is anybody allowed to take that walking tour?
I do appreciate that you always include zone information but it’s of limited value with conifers. You’re in Boring, OR which is a zone 8b (like me here in Lynnwood, WA 200 miles north!) and these conifers do fine because our summers are less intense and not humid during the summer. I’d love it if you referenced Koppen climate descriptions more when possible.
Because his zone 7b is much different. It’s much hotter and very humid in the summer, and the nights are warm and humid. In the PNW there is very little summer humidity and the nights are much cooler, so the plants get relief from the heat. Hardiness zones only refer to the mean minimum temp and don’t address heat and humidity.
This nursery is actually in zone 8B, however it’s a very different 8B from the south. It can get hot, but very little humidity and the nights are very cool.
@@freedomofreligion3248not necessarily, I'm in Dawsonville and there's several quite nice Blue Spruce I know of. It's got to be well drained, afternoon sun protection helps but I know one right along a parking lot in full sun. I actually sold it 18 years ago as a balled in burlap working at a garden center. Arizona Cypress is a steady performer too. It handles clay better but not wet soil. Addition of a product like PermaTill really helps.
How do these types of conifers do in areas like the pacific northwest where it mild year round? I'm in 8b, and it doesn't get super hot in the summer but also doesn't get cold in the winter. Do they need the cold or is it more the hot sun thats bad for them?
I live in SE Louisiana zone 8b. I've planted and lost right at the first year mark, two Colorado Blue Spruce. Also lost a 3 year old Dwarf Alberta Spruce after this summer's exceptional drought. I have given up on trying to grow a blue spruce. I wanted one so badly! Seems there aren't many types of blue conifers that can survive our heat and humidity. I have 4 Carolina Sapphire that are doing well. Do you have any suggestions on something similar to the blue spruce for my zone?
...sigh... Once again, no mention of the soil PH any of these plants need... I suppose Jim still hasn't gotten used to having the whole world watching his videos, instead of just "the locals", who basically have the same soil type as he does? Well, here I am, a person who is always wishing I could have a Colorado Blue Spruce growing, AND THRIVING, in my yard! And while I COULD go buy one and plant it, I'm pretty sure it would not ever THRIVE over here. Instead, I think it would be the opposite of thriving! It would probably be a permanent attraction for every spider mite within a 3 mile range to live in! (Just to name ONE of the many life sucking pests!) That's because I am on the line of zone 8a/b. But I'm NOT in the SouthEast. Which means I've automatically got 2 strikes against me with growing conifers. 1 is the heat of our hot Summers. (Which have been even more beastly hot the past 2 years!) And 2 is the alkaline soil we have. So yes, I certsinly could plant one in a more shady spot to help with the heat. THAT I could do. But the soil PH... Changing THAT would be a constant fight... My soil PH is no where near the level of acidic PH which I'm guessing many of these wonderful blue specimens need. Which of coarse, is why there aren't very many conifers growing in the wild over here. I do believe the Arizona Cypress can grow in a higher Ph, but that's the only one I know for sure that can not only survive in the heat of my area, but also quite possibly could thrive, DESPITE the higher PH of the limestone based soil we've got! I'm guessing the plants in the Juniper genre can grow here too? But that's just a guess. Which is why when I clicked on this video, I was HOPING when the specs of each specimen shown were spoken, the types of soil it likes, prefers, or just plain HAS TO HAVE would be revealed. But alas, no... Oh well...
You’ve answered your own question. Generally, conifers prefer soil that’s 5-6. There’s no point in Jim mentioning that for every tree in the video, because it’s pretty standard for all of them. Junipers are the only exception to the rule, and will be happy in more alkaline soil.
@GardenKath Right. Obviously, I already know some things about that info. But not every gardener knows all about PH, and which plants grow where. And also importantly, which plants WON'T grow in certain PH soils, not JUST the temperature zone information. Also, there are always exceptions to the rule. Like the Arizona Cypress. It's not a Juniper. But it is said to grow healthily in higher PH soils too. (Is healthily even a word??!) So yes, let's mention the PH range of each plant! It will probably even be INTERESTING to find out how different each PH range truly is! And while yes, I DO know the rules of how conifers generally need an acidic soil, since I've NOT got experience growing in acidic soils, I DON'T KNOW just HOW ACIDIC each plant needs the soil to be. And also, just as a plant person, I would still like to hear what each plant's favorite PH range is. I mean, I'm thinking it shouldn't be THAT HARD to include the information. It's simply part of the normal stats. Especially when PH matters! Which is definitely in the case of conifers. I'm betting there are other plant peeps out there that probably have "micro-PH-climates" with their soil too... (Or whatever that's called in soil!) Different spots around their yard with different PH numbers. Maybe they have a good spot where their blueberries grow? And other spots where the blueberries WON'T grow! And maybe there is SOME BLUE CONIFER that can handle a slightly higher PH, even if it's still not as high as what I have. There's got to be SOMEBODY out there who has perfectly NEUTRAL PH soil ! Will the conifers grow there? Which ones will, and which ones won't? And then there's all the newbies who have no idea that they should NOT be planting a Colorado Blue Spruce in their 8.5 ph soil, and to add insult to the tree's injury, their water also has a high PH! Those poor newbies who will get taken in by the beauty of the Blue Spruce, and don't know the garden center is taking them for a ride!! But nobody's talking about the PH being an important part of a healthy conifer. The newbies, they don't even know that's a thing! They go to the garden center and see that beautiful blue spruce, and of coarse, they fall in love with it! (Because, who doesn't!!) The garden center shouldn't be selling it, but they do. And nobody ever tells the poor newbie they're just wasting their time, money, and future heartache on planting this spruce tree in their 8.5 ph soil ! I know it happens bcuz I see them for sale around here, even though they shouldn't be. Or at least they should come with a big red flag & disclaimer! "GROW AT YOUR OWN RISK!" pffffthhh! 👅💦 !! Of coarse, the store isn't going to do that! They just want their money. So yeah, taking for granted that whoever is watching these vids has at least a 6.5 PH is just a bit frustrating for those of us who don't have it. As well as very frustrating for those who end up finding out the hard way. I mean, if each and every plant in the 10 plants listed in the video can only grow in a certain soil PH, it's really not that hard to even just add a blanket statement at the beginning of the video. "All the plants shown today NEED an acidic soil ranging from ** to ** to be healthy shrubs and trees." Adding that to a video just doesn't seem that hard to me. It also seems like it should be part of the statistics given, just like the winter hardiness zone. Oh, and in the case of some conifers, or is it MOST conifers (?) a summer hardiness zone should also be added. Especially since it's been about 10°-15°f hotter since 2020. So yes, I still think including this information in a plant informational video, is essential. And it should not be taken for granted that "people just know". Because they don't. All that to say: There IS more than one point for Jim "mentioning" the PH range for each and every plant in this video. ▪︎ Because that information is part of the basic stats per plant. ▪︎ Because not everyone knows about the importance of soil and water PH with conifers. ▪︎ Because it is now way too easy to buy any conifer online, from an area with different PH than theirs. ▪︎ And most of the time, not even the websites selling them mention the PH needed! ▪︎ Plus - it's only 10 plants! Sheesh!! ▪︎ And finally, it's just NOT that hard to "mention" it.
@theresaodwyer2026 Well, I do do my own research. I'm just not sure why soil PH for plants that clearly are specific in their needs are not regarded as pertinent information in a video which is giving all the other stats. Nor am I sure why that offends YOU. And while we're on the subject, isn't the comment section the very place for asking questions like that? Or is your idea that the comments are just for praise to the content creator?
One that I don’t think was mentioned but is a good blue spruce that is for small spaces is a Montgomery Blue Spruce. It’s been super easy to grow in zone 7a and looks fantastic year round.
Every single plant is absolutely gorgeous. I love that round Blue Ball. I’ve never seen a conifer like that.
Blue is such an underrated color in the landscape. Thanks so much for highlighting this very important color Jim. I love using it in groundcover plantings such as dianthus and ajuga...also certain varieties of sedum. It lends a cool tonal element to the garden and contrasts so well with warmer colors. Awesome video Jim.
I agree. I like pops of color with dianthus.
Here in Russia, we absolutely in love with blue firs, like Glauca, Hoopsii, Blue Diamond, Kaibab, Iseli Fastigiate, Super Blue, Fat Albert and many others. Glad that you guys love them too. These trees make landscape more interesting especially in winter season. There are also very rare absolutely amazing dual color firs like Bialobok, Maigold, etc.
I often wonder if Chairman Putin knows those blue spruce in front of the Kremlin and the sacred Necropolis are All-American DNA and from Colorado home of NORAD? No one else in the world calls them "firs" so maybe it's a denial thing. No politics intended. Just curious.
Juniperus virginiana AQUAVITA and 'Glauca Compacta' are super frosty blue and do well in Raleigh. Cupressus glabra at the NCSU Forestry School have lasted 60 years, a bit aging now but in past decades they took all the heat, humidity, and hurricanes with ease.
That's a gorgeous garden
The big trees look like a dance party🙂 yellow red blue green dress🌲👗
Very dressy trees🌲🌳👗💃🕺😊
These videos are amazing. Informative, educational, a pleasure to watch. I can’t get enough of these segments where it’s been broken down to different hues of the conifers and evergreens. Love it.
Beautiful! Plant variety, lighting, & fall color all made for a great backdrop to your video.
I love thi 🎄 Blue 🔵
The Andorra juniper in my landscape is more of a green/blue hue but becomes a rockstar in the winter when it turns to a dramatic purple color. That is when it really shines. I have plans for an upright true-blue conifer like a blue arrow juniper, but that Monty might be something to look out for. Great video.
This is one of the most beautiful sceneries I have seen in a long time. These conifers are so gorgeous the colors are breathtaking. Love it.❤
The problem with ground cover junipers, at least for me, are all of the tree seedling that pop up. By the time you see them they are really rooted in and difficult to pull. you also have to step on it to get to the middle to even try. If there was a way to prevent all of the oaks and maples from popping up I’d probably plant them. But we actually got rid of a ton of it when we moved here.
i love a blue Christmas
Absolutely beautiful! Im in zone 7A. I would love to have a blue spruce. My planting areas are limited. Great video! Thank you for the information!
My SIL keeps hers potted at the shady edge of her porch so the deer won’t eat them like they did the last one!
So beautiful, a must visit. Thanks for sharing all your knowledge and Stephanie's great videos!
I lived in the Willamette Valley for almost a decade and this is making me miss the area. I am a sucker for PNW style gardens. These tours are awesome. Thank you!!
Bush’s Lace❤to have that in my yard here in Asheboro,NC
I thoroughly enjoyed this video. I live in northern Idaho and conifers do very well here. I love them.
Love this video and blue conifers! I’ve started planting various conifers and Japanese maples in my garden in the last year- thanks for all the tips! Central Ohio 6A
We planted two Carolina sapphire blue cypress theee years ago, either side of our driveway at the top of a hill, next to the road. They truly are becoming statement pieces! We love them! Virginia zone 7a
Such beautiful plants. Thanks so much for your great video!
Thank you very much for grouping the VDO this way. I love this VDO!!!!
Such a wonderful nursery. Aaron and Laura have shopped it with amazing results.
I love my small weeping white spruce (Picea Glauca 'pendula') that I planted last year. In the future it will be a statement in the garden as well as our 'Silveray' Korean pine tree. I am a sucker for conifers and Japanese maples. Thanks Jim!
Korean pines do great for me near Charlotte NC.
Japanese maples everywhere ugh sooo jelly
So Beautiful pohon pinus ❤
I always think of Ice Breaker as a Christmas tree with snow on it. I have Horstmann’s Silberlocke Korean Fir after seeing it at Chanticleer. Love it.
What an amazing garden!. Gosh I love the CO blue spruce at intro...we have one variety and it just is too hot for it to maintain the blue color in zone 7 East TN
SO EXCITED for you and Steph that you've made this aMAZing trip! Meeting up with Janey, Linda - wow! So very, very cool! Maybe you can meet up with Aaron and Laura when they come down to visit Jenny & Jerry. (but it would have been crazy fun to visit their property in Ontario). Beautiful, beautiful blue conifers! Man, that Iseli Nursery is inCREdible! Wow, wow, WOW!!!!!
Wow that Bush’s Lace Engelmann spruce is huge. I’m in zone 7a in Tennessee and mine has grown like 2 inches in a year lol
Always gets my attention then gives me a good laugh when you say you're in "Boring, Oregon" 😮😅
Love all the Blue!🤩💙🩵💙 It's a stunning place for sure! Complete opposite of its name 😄
Bought a couple little potted blue spruce south of Tulsa for my SIL who really misses the evergreens from around Los Alamos NM. Deer killed her other one, so she’s keeping these potted on her large low covered porch/patio. There was a beauty of a blue spruce in one neighborhood where I grew up in sw Okla that we used to pause to drink in when looking at Christmas lights every year.
I need a blue conifer for Zone 8a
arizona cypresse
Gorgeous area Jim.
Still very dry in Raleigh but beautiful color! You and Steph have fun!
Just bought one for a pot for a few years, then into the ground she goes! 🌲 ❤
These are beautiful. Our blues are Bismarck palm, blue saw palmetto, Arizona cypress, some junipers, and many blue flowering plants (plumbago, sky vine, evolvulus, duranta, etc.) in zones 9 and south in FL.
Thanks for these vids from Isley. I’m zone 8b in the Pacific Northwest, and I get to enjoy blue conifers. I have blue star juniper, and it’s color can’t be beat. The most stunning blue is my dwarf blue hinoki cypress.
Great video! Thanks for sharing.
I have a Bush's Lace Engelmann as a screening plant, zone 7b in mostly shade and it seems to be very happy. They grow fast, about 15" a year so I'm not so sure it would be happy in a container. A beautiful conifer!
I wish I had more property, I would plant all of them. 💙
What a beautiful place
love the conifer videos
honestly was wondering about this specific thing just recently. no one seems to mention it but where i am at least (southern new england) every single blue spruce i see is in some way dying/struggling, we actually lost one that was super healthy for decades out of nowhere, and i haven't really seen a healthy one here since. I'll definitely be looking around at garden centers for some of these tbh.
Fabulous video Jim! Thank you!
amazing video! I want all of these but sadly I live in Houston. I did just purchase a Blue Pyramid and several of the blue star junipers last week and we are gonna give them a go. Thanks!
What a gorgeous garden! Thanks for sharing
STUNNING 😍
Such a yreat to see these plants. In north florida we just cant grow them. They are on our lust for list..lol
Thanks Jim. 🦃🍁🍂💚🙃
How wonderful! Thx for the info.
Stunning gardens!
Amazing
So many great conifers!
Thanks -- informative as always. As the leaves fall from the trees here in the NE, I'm looking more and more at how I can use evergreens for winter interest and for color, shape and textural contrast throughout the year. Conifers are such wonderful plants. I just wish I could find the more interesting varieties in my local nurseries -- how many Green Giants can the market absorb? Don't answer that question!
The tree behind the ice breaker has beautiful foliage. I wonder what it is.
Thanks for this video. So beautiful. I have an umbrella pine and an Ali pine that are from that nursery. I live in southern Indiana.
An Aoi pine.
❤hello everyone, fun day 😊❤
Beautiful color layering in this video. The blue really pops off the surrounding plants! In an attempt to incorporate some blue into my 6b KY landscape, I grabbed some of the ubiquitous blue star junipers. I struggle with them with the slow browning of some of the tips and sections. I prune off the dead but feel like I'm not getting ahead. I wonder how much of this is normal and how much of this is user error (light/water/location ,etc). I just love the "true blue" color! Any tips?
They need to be super well drained. Don't like irrigated areas.
@@katiekane5247 Thanks! Not irrigated, but typical KY clay soil. Hmmm.
Great video!
Beautiful 😊
Great video Jim. Is this display garden open to the public? It’s incredible and I’m saving it for ideas for our new gardens!
Hello first time watching your channel. I was wondering how do you start in the landscaping trade and how to advance In it. Which one focuses more on ornamental plants .
Love your channel!!
Every frame from this place looks like a 70s era prog rock album cover. Almost other-worldly.
Jim,
There were 3 low-growing, blue plants just left of the Picea glauca "Pendula" that looked a bit like agave. Can you identify them & give their growth parameters?
Thank you. 😊
If you are doing golden, could you highlight some of the red color laying we see in your video? Please and thank you.
Is this garden/nursery open to the public or just to horticultural rockstars like you Jim? I’d love to walk through this magnificent garden someday!!
Just visited the website to find out about visiting & it says scheduled tours for current or potential customers only, which equals wholesale buyers, which means the general public can’t go 😢
@@kkeenan536every visitor is a potential source of disease and visitors require more staff. That makes these plants more expensive. Jim gave us a good tour, enjoy it!
@@kkeenan536 dang!! That’s too bad.
Is the koru conifer able to be grown in zone 7b Spartanburg SC?
Is that pine over the blue star a hedgehog?
Where can a landscaper or Gardner work .How does one get there foot in the door
I am zone 8a over on the SE coast of NC. I would love some blue conifers. Question: Since conifers are slow growing and the blue needs sunshine I am wondering if I could container grow them, summer them in shade and winter them in the sunshine. Would that be a workable strategy or just a LOT of work?
What garden center in Raleigh, Homewood,? We have Pike here in Charlotte that carry their products
I am at zone 9b . I would love to have blue tree, can not find nothing which can handle our heat
I think I heard you say that Isle nursery is not open to the general public but wanted to get clarification on that? Is anybody allowed to take that walking tour?
Aren’t they in zone 8 too?
I do appreciate that you always include zone information but it’s of limited value with conifers. You’re in Boring, OR which is a zone 8b (like me here in Lynnwood, WA 200 miles north!) and these conifers do fine because our summers are less intense and not humid during the summer. I’d love it if you referenced Koppen climate descriptions more when possible.
Blue ball is a funny name with a mind like mine 😂
So Boring,Oregon is zone 8a/b. How do they grow them if you can't in zone 7. The Willamette Valley gets virtually no rain for the entire summer.
Because his zone 7b is much different. It’s much hotter and very humid in the summer, and the nights are warm and humid. In the PNW there is very little summer humidity and the nights are much cooler, so the plants get relief from the heat. Hardiness zones only refer to the mean minimum temp and don’t address heat and humidity.
@@erikl85That's an excellent point because nurseries fail to tell people that and I for one found out the hard way with blue spruce!
I'm in 8a, so this is hard to watch. I miss the blue conifers from my time up north.
Me too , here in zone 8 GA!
So...I, too, am now in 8a -- only to be near family -- do your words mean our heat decimates the beautiful blue spruces?? Sob.
This nursery is actually in zone 8B, however it’s a very different 8B from the south. It can get hot, but very little humidity and the nights are very cool.
@@freedomofreligion3248not necessarily, I'm in Dawsonville and there's several quite nice Blue Spruce I know of. It's got to be well drained, afternoon sun protection helps but I know one right along a parking lot in full sun. I actually sold it 18 years ago as a balled in burlap working at a garden center. Arizona Cypress is a steady performer too. It handles clay better but not wet soil. Addition of a product like PermaTill really helps.
@@freedomofreligion3248 I'm on the sandy ridge of SC some 20+ years now, and cannot recollect seeing a blue conifer.
How do these types of conifers do in areas like the pacific northwest where it mild year round? I'm in 8b, and it doesn't get super hot in the summer but also doesn't get cold in the winter. Do they need the cold or is it more the hot sun thats bad for them?
This nursery is in the PNW, just outside of Portland. I’d say they do very well 😂
If anyone wants a fast growing conifer get Norway Spruce!
Need to find some good blue balls
Like from México 😁
I live in SE Louisiana zone 8b. I've planted and lost right at the first year mark, two Colorado Blue Spruce. Also lost a 3 year old Dwarf Alberta Spruce after this summer's exceptional drought. I have given up on trying to grow a blue spruce. I wanted one so badly! Seems there aren't many types of blue conifers that can survive our heat and humidity. I have 4 Carolina Sapphire that are doing well. Do you have any suggestions on something similar to the blue spruce for my zone?
Can you do the Arizona cypress? We can in Austin, 8B/9A.
@@Theisaiahtibbs yes, I have a Carolina Sapphire. I believe it's the same tree.
I missed the name at the start of the vid, I was quite concerned that you tube had labeled this as BORING!
hahaha Blue Ball! I can't! hah ha
👍👍
I finally figured out that Boring, Oregon is the name of the town, not your comment on Oregon! 😅
Love this nursery! Lost the video!
...sigh...
Once again, no mention of the soil PH any of these plants need...
I suppose Jim still hasn't gotten used to having the whole world watching his videos, instead of just "the locals", who basically have the same soil type as he does?
Well, here I am, a person who is always wishing I could have a Colorado Blue Spruce growing, AND THRIVING, in my yard!
And while I COULD go buy one and plant it, I'm pretty sure it would not ever THRIVE over here.
Instead, I think it would be the opposite of thriving!
It would probably be a permanent attraction for every spider mite within a 3 mile range to live in!
(Just to name ONE of the many life sucking pests!)
That's because I am on the line of zone 8a/b.
But I'm NOT in the SouthEast.
Which means I've automatically got 2 strikes against me with growing conifers.
1 is the heat of our hot Summers.
(Which have been even more beastly hot the past 2 years!)
And
2 is the alkaline soil we have.
So yes, I certsinly could plant one in a more shady spot to help with the heat. THAT I could do.
But the soil PH...
Changing THAT would be a constant fight...
My soil PH is no where near the level of acidic PH which I'm guessing many of these wonderful blue specimens need.
Which of coarse, is why there aren't very many conifers growing in the wild over here.
I do believe the Arizona Cypress can grow in a higher Ph, but that's the only one I know for sure that can not only survive in the heat of my area, but also quite possibly could thrive, DESPITE the higher PH of the limestone based soil we've got!
I'm guessing the plants in the Juniper genre can grow here too?
But that's just a guess.
Which is why when I clicked on this video, I was HOPING when the specs of each specimen shown were spoken, the types of soil it likes, prefers, or just plain HAS TO HAVE would be revealed.
But alas, no...
Oh well...
You’ve answered your own question. Generally, conifers prefer soil that’s 5-6. There’s no point in Jim mentioning that for every tree in the video, because it’s pretty standard for all of them. Junipers are the only exception to the rule, and will be happy in more alkaline soil.
@GardenKath
Right.
Obviously, I already know some things about that info.
But not every gardener knows all about PH, and which plants grow where.
And also importantly, which plants WON'T grow in certain PH soils,
not JUST the temperature zone information.
Also,
there are always exceptions to the rule.
Like the Arizona Cypress.
It's not a Juniper.
But it is said to grow healthily in higher PH soils too.
(Is healthily even a word??!)
So yes, let's mention the PH range of each plant!
It will probably even be INTERESTING
to find out how different each PH range truly is!
And while yes, I DO know the rules of how conifers generally need an acidic soil,
since I've NOT got experience growing in acidic soils,
I DON'T KNOW just HOW ACIDIC each plant needs the soil to be.
And also, just as a plant person,
I would still like to hear what each plant's favorite PH range is.
I mean, I'm thinking it shouldn't be THAT HARD to include the information.
It's simply part of the normal stats.
Especially when PH matters!
Which is definitely in the case of conifers.
I'm betting there are other plant peeps out there that probably have "micro-PH-climates" with their soil too...
(Or whatever that's called in soil!)
Different spots around their yard with different PH numbers.
Maybe they have a good spot where their blueberries grow?
And other spots where the blueberries WON'T grow!
And maybe there is SOME BLUE CONIFER that can handle a slightly higher PH, even if it's still not as high as what I have.
There's got to be SOMEBODY out there who has perfectly NEUTRAL PH soil !
Will the conifers grow there?
Which ones will, and which ones won't?
And then there's all the newbies who have no idea that they should NOT be planting a Colorado Blue Spruce in their 8.5 ph soil, and to add insult to the tree's injury, their water also has a high PH!
Those poor newbies who will get taken in by the beauty of the Blue Spruce, and don't know the garden center is taking them for a ride!!
But nobody's talking about the PH being an important part of a healthy conifer.
The newbies, they don't even know that's a thing!
They go to the garden center and see that beautiful blue spruce, and of coarse, they fall in love with it!
(Because, who doesn't!!)
The garden center shouldn't be selling it, but they do.
And nobody ever tells the poor newbie they're just wasting their time, money, and future heartache on planting this spruce tree in their 8.5 ph soil !
I know it happens bcuz I see them for sale around here, even though they shouldn't be. Or at least they should come with a big red flag & disclaimer!
"GROW AT YOUR OWN RISK!"
pffffthhh! 👅💦 !!
Of coarse,
the store isn't going to do that!
They just want their money.
So yeah, taking for granted that whoever is watching these vids has at least a 6.5 PH is just a bit frustrating for those of us who don't have it.
As well as very frustrating for those who end up finding out the hard way.
I mean, if each and every plant in the 10 plants listed in the video can only grow in a certain soil PH, it's really not that hard to even just add a blanket statement at the beginning of the video.
"All the plants shown today NEED an acidic soil ranging from ** to **
to be healthy shrubs and trees."
Adding that to a video just doesn't seem that hard to me.
It also seems like it should be part of the statistics given, just like the winter hardiness zone.
Oh, and in the case of some conifers,
or is it MOST conifers (?)
a summer hardiness zone
should also be added.
Especially since it's been about 10°-15°f hotter since 2020.
So yes,
I still think including this information
in a plant informational video,
is essential.
And it should not be taken for granted that "people just know".
Because they don't.
All that to say:
There IS more than one point for Jim "mentioning" the PH range for each and every plant in this video.
▪︎ Because that information is part of the basic stats per plant.
▪︎ Because not everyone knows about the importance of soil and water PH with conifers.
▪︎ Because it is now way too easy to buy any conifer online, from an area with different PH than theirs.
▪︎ And most of the time, not even the websites selling them mention the PH needed!
▪︎ Plus - it's only 10 plants!
Sheesh!!
▪︎ And finally, it's just NOT that hard to "mention" it.
@theresaodwyer2026
Well, I do do my own research.
I'm just not sure why soil PH for plants that clearly are specific in their needs are not regarded as pertinent information in a video which is giving all the other stats.
Nor am I sure why that offends YOU.
And while we're on the subject, isn't the comment section the very place for asking questions like that?
Or is your idea that the comments are just for praise to the content creator?
Boring!!!
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I’m in 9b. Are there any blue conifers that I can plant???🌲🩵. I absolutely love the blue and it really brings the garden together.