I guess should just accept there being an issue then? Of course it’s on Ford. They’ve been really good to date and closer to finding out what’s going on. Will provide an update in my next vid.
(Have the bi turbo) Have had the gearbox valve body replaced, the tail shaft and now the high end turbo is making grinding noise… apparently that’s “within spec”… lost all trust with ford with their “engineers”
I had a very similar experience with the V6 Everest just recently. Got up the Yeargerup dune entrance in 4L but as I hit the top it went limp and threw the same error your shows on the dash. It happened again on Callcup Hill, again in 4L. It goes up in 4H without any issue, but 4L is my go-to when I think I'll get bogged so it's a bit concerning. Anyway the errors that my obd scanner can see is P061B-61, P061B-62 and P061B-64 all described as 'Torque Calculation - Performance Problem'. I'm yet to take mine back to Ford for further investigation.
This is great info thanks mate! I’ve had a few other people reach out since seeing my video. Another person last night provided me with the same code so I think we’re onto something. I’ll provide this information to Ford and hopefully can get a resolution. I can’t assume Ford were aware of the issue before I first communicated my issue so the more of us that flag it with them the better.
I understand the 4L 4H thing, but what mode have you selected... Wet, mud, sand, stones or low... I think that's where the issue lies in sand mode, I think it's not a problem, but try setting it to "BAJA" mode. So everything is POWERFULL!
The new Rangers here in South Africa do the same thing in soft sand when you slightly bogged. A well known 4x4 presenter guy this side says he has had the same issue across a number of models including the Raptor. 4H and 4L. He says it’s the gearbox. When that happens the revs are limited to 1600RPM and the gearbox can get power / drive onto the wheels. Been a while since he reported it to Ford but they have not had any answers yet.
That’s really interesting! As a bit of an update on mine - since I had the front radar sensor changed over, I’m yet to have any issues. I explained this a little more in this vid ua-cam.com/video/Z_SziNuA8h0/v-deo.htmlsi=G7fnApEzyAKbUBep
awesome vid Mark, sorry to hear your problem with the Ford, the problem in most cases is fuel filter , lack of fuel to the fuel pump which can throw a code , but you can clear these codes and replace the filter and all is good, you have a EDS that will show the code that is the problem , Ford found no problems , i'm sure they will get it sorted
Thanks mate. Yeah lack of code is an issue.. I’ve heard from a number of owners after my video who have had the same thing happen so I can also provide this context to Ford. I’m sure it’s something minor, but none the less annoying
Sounds like a similar issue I had on Moreton island, towing a camper trailer in soft sand. Car seemed to be Revving like it had power but wasn’t coming through transmission well that’s what it seemed like. Another time I was towing my mates broken down 4wd out of the bush. Got a code on my Obd scanner P061B(61) torque calculation performance problem. Was able to clear and keep going but not great. Both times were in 4L with traction control properly off and trans temps were warm but not in the orange.. haven’t asked ford about it but keen to hear your results
This is why the coil cabs will forever hold a place for me, comfort, power and reliability. Hate the new cars beeping at me for trying to down shift at Revs they don’t like, not having a seatbelt on when i start it or things like limp mode. Can’t beat mechanical. Even 79 series get limp mode codes for random reasons which also seams to happen when in soft sand when you need it most.. what is your coolant temp normally I note you said it was at 99, that should be safe still given a pressurised system however I wonder if it was climbing rapidly and the engine senses a risk and cuts fuel delivery?
Yeah for sure. The beeps can be annoying. I have my ritual everytime I start the car turning things off ha! Coolant is usually well under 100 - this was a particularly warm day and soft sand. These cars will definitely go into protection mode if they detect things getting too hot. At times I wish I had something oldschool, but on the flipslide this is so nice to drive as a daily and tows like a dream. Always pros and cons hey.
I had similar experience with an Everest, turned out to be dirt/dust in a electrical connector at the front of the vehicle. Maybe you've got beach sand in a connection somewhere
I can tell you from personal experience that FORD can see all incidents that can cause limp mode and when the incident occurred, even hidden ones that can come on for a short period before no further indication to the user even if you don't use the Sync App. As soon as you get within cell coverage all warnings and messages displayed on dash will be uploaded. If you have turned off the vehicle location and data connection this will be stored for a period but note some messages may only hold for 150 restarts of the engine. I own a FORD Ranger Raptor 2020.75 and had a minor issue with hard transmission shifting that had a message then disappeared on a return trip from Melbourne, I went in to FORD at Toowoomba and they were able to see all messages that had been synced to their system and all messages sent through to the Synch app. They had more information than was sent to the app, they also could see how many restarts it would take before the message would be deleted. Issue has since been corrected, no further issues.
I believe that the issue stand in high temp in your transfer case. As they don't have a gauge but they do have a sensor most likely the transfer case temp would have been very high driving in 4L. I have had no issue with mine but I have used 4L only once usually I drive in 4A or 4H in sand mode with rear diff locked... See if you can measure transfer case temp if is doing it again just out of curiosity and let us know or try and use sand mode.. If you don't have it your ford dealer should be able to activate it or simply use 4H and rear diff lock and it set by Ford in sand mode
4L should be fine for the short use I had it in. The Manual states it can be used for deep sand - which was the conditions I was in. I’ve been ok in 4H to date. A fault code has been found by Ford on looking into it deeper - I’ll cover off in my next vid.
Concerning about the car dying mate! Keep us updated for the outcome! Took the family out to Milligans Island camping node last weekend after seeing your video. Top spot 👌 unfortunately while I was circling natures window with my drone it dropped out and disappeared 😢 turned a good 4 day trip into a sad one 😂
Oh no on the drone!! That turned into an expensive trip for you 😔 Yeah will keep everyone updated on the Ranger. It’s driving perfect day-to-day but annoying I haven’t got to the bottom of what’s going in in 4L yet
Yeah the older rigs certainly appear more bush proof, but these Rangers are lovely to drive and capable. I’m sure it’s something minor and will share updates when I know more
Hello, Greetings from Spain, I have been waiting for my Raptor for 3 months now, I hope it arrives soon. There is no doubt that it is a piece of 4x4 with everything it comes standard. My humble opinion, even without having the car yet, I think it is not a problem, maybe when driving on sand you have not set the driving mode correctly and the ranger may think that it is slipping and pressing the brakes, like the traction control, it is not If you tried putting low mode, they say that "almost everything" is disconnected. I still remember my first time just leaving the dealership with my Mitsubishi DiD Montero without having any idea about driving a 4x4 20 years ago, I went to the beach and tried to go but the car stayed, I stepped harder and braked harder, I went to It lasted closer to the water and when I turned to go back there it stayed....The traction control towards theirs, I said last chance, 4x4 low gear...plim disconnected and when I stepped on it I left there as if it were in a tank of chains...with a smile from side to side. Later, with many more inventions, I always thought that the Mitsubishi was a true tank that went for everything, they even put a lock on it. I think the new ranger is a great car "the M1 Abrams"
Hi! Thanks for your feedback but I can guarantee this is car and not driver error. All assists were off to prevent traction control and ESC. Ford are investigating it.
I drive a 1990 HZJ75 no electronics and no comfort but so easy to diagnose. It’s either fuel or air, low battery not a problem if your parked facing downhill 😂
My guess that is that some how sand is getting sucked in to something and it’s getting stuck when you take off the power and then put power back on and car sensors are trying to protect itself by going into limp mode. Kind of like when outboard motor sucks a bit of sand if you keep the power on it should pass through the motor but as soon take off the power it will stick and the outboard will start to overheat or go into limp mode when you want to go faster. With out outboard it’s happened to me without any codes.
My air filter element was clear of sand and have secondary filter on the snorkel too. Others experiencing this have messaged me off the back of this video and they have had a error code which relates to 'Torque Calculation Performance Problem'. I’ll be passing this onto Ford and we what they say.
Mate , it's a "Ford Thing" 🤣🤣🤣Mine went into limp mode at wooramel station, same deal , tyres down, alarm on dash, low range and I got bogged at the time 🙃🙃🙃 Restarted the car after digging out ( and turning traction control off, always forget to do that ) out of limp mode so I recon your on the money with lower pressures ( alarm ) and low range driving. The car probably thought there was an issue, they are too smart these days. I also had a limp mode experience towing the caravan way out in the wheatbelt and had water in my fuel, limp mode, then it shut the car down, A 2 hour tow truck ride to Geraldton, mechanic clears about 20 codes, changed fuel filter, then we were good to go. Again had the car not gone into limp mode and shutting down I may have been looking at a new engine. I also felt that the car wasn't reliable to take us to the places we go, but now , touch wood 😁😁😁I know it will get us home. I now have a scan tool just incase I have to phone a friend 😁😁😁and as back up Full RAC cover 👍👍👍 Cheers Andy 🍺🍺🍺
Thanks Andy! I’m glad you were able to sort it out. Did you flag this with Ford? If you managed to note down any of the codes, it would be great to know what these were as I can pass this information onto Ford. I have no codes so a little like a needle in a haystack. Feel free to message any further info direct via Facebook messenger or Instagram. Thanks mate
Gday . My wildtrac dose the same when the tyres are let down for beach driving. I reset them for the lower pressure but some days it keeps doing it . I just turn the motor off and it resets straight away 😁 Still a pain
Thanks mate. Usually the tyre pressures reader resets after pumping the tyres up and driving at normal speed for a bit. On this day it didn’t - but has been fine since towing home from that trip
The computer has a max an min tyre pressure. If you go above Max or below Min it will throw a code and go into limp mode. {FORscan} will let you change those parameters. I just run "off-road wheels" with no pressure sensors at all.
G’day Paul. Really depends on the sand/terrain. 14PSI is generally good on the Mickey Thompson’s as they don’t bag out as much as 2 ply AT tyres. They are 3 ply tyre so quite thick. I’ve had them as low as 10PSI before. For firmer rocky tracks around 24PSI, and have had them at 18PSI for some slippery trails. Short answer is test what works best on your tyres.
In sand you should be in low range with the rear locker, locked. This shuts off the nannies and will run locked up to 60 mph. Also try double tapping the traction control button in Sport Mode.
Certainly for deep sand yes which was how I’ve used it and the direction Ford state in the manual. Interestingly, ‘sand mode’ which is a feature on the Sport, Wildtrak and Platinum models activates 4H. I don’t understand why they don’t provide all the drive modes to XLT owners given it’s all the same running gear.
Cool video man! I don't have a ford but all new cars are susceptible to this random tech shit which sucks. W.A looks great, would love to get over there someday.
Spot on mate. Yeah so much tech going on in these new cars. Hopefully can get to the bottom of it as overall it’s a great car. Yeah we’re very lucky over here in WA 😃
It doesn’t make any difference what make you buy.... this sort of new technology is still in the teething stage... i work in the mining industry and Toyota's go crazy when they drive in muddy conditions and the dash lights up like a Christmas tree with faults....my next gen Raptor hasnt missed a beat... been from Kalgoorlie to Queensland and back towing a camper trailer... thrashed it on Frazer island and still perfect.
Mate I had exactly the ame issue at Ledge Point of all places. Maybe it doesn't like that area? :D I also thought it could be due to tyre pressure, which makes no sense as we should be letting them down for sand. On the way back out, the thing drove like it should and I was happy as a first time owner. I was a bit underwhelmed on the way there, now knowing I was in limp mode.
Haha Yeah maybe it doesn’t like the beaches up there. Suggest just keep an eye on it. Will be doing more testing of mine with new front radar on on upcoming trips (replaced under warranty)
@@Perth4WDandCamping Awesome I'll try and keep an eye on your stuff as I didn't get notified of your reply. Did they say the radar could've affected this?
well done on getting it well documented I've seen guys on FB mentioning the same issue and ford saying they can replicate it, what mode did you have it in? sand mode? did you try it with the higher tyre pressures or different modes etc.
Thanks mate. Was just normal drive mode with traction and ESC off and 14PSI. There’s no sand mode in the XLT (which in itself I don’t understand as it’s running the same equipment as the Sport and Wildtrak). Seems to be driving fine in 4H
You can activate sand and sport modes with forscan, i activated sport mode on my wildtrak, its pretty simple to do, I'm in jindalee if you need help with it
Thanks mate. Appreciate the offer. Realise it can be added - unfortunately it’s not a permanent fix tho and gets wiped when Ford do software updates at services. I guess if people have the patience they can just keep adding it back, but I really think Ford should have offered these drive modes across the whole v6 range - especially when the software is the same across the models.
Probably too early to get to concerned… doesn’t matter what car you buy these days they have some sort of electrical gremlin pop up… just gotta find it… could be inside the big thing on the front grill… called the Ford badge 😂😂.. ( just joking, we just took delivery of our Everest platinum)
Haha all good mate. I left myself right open making this vid 🤣 I’m sure there has to be a solution - just gotta work out what it is… Otherwise they are cracking cars.
Sometimes just luck of the draw? I have Toyota mates that have had some issues - no brand is immune.. I think with these Rangers tho, there’s so much new tech that you only need a sensor to fail etc and cause issues. When everything is working as it should it’s the best 4WD I’ve ever driven - but I need that confidence to use it in 4L. Hope can get the bottom of it 🤞
You have ut detailed i would not let it rest with Ford until it is sorted. If that means taking someone from Ford HQ to the beach to try out so be it. Pity you couldn't reset it out of limp mode wuth a code reader? If you cant trust maybe flip it for a new Hybrid Hilux
Yeah I really needed it to drop a code. The fact it hasn’t is concerning in itself. If it happens again I’ll have a look on the Scanguage to see if any codes dropped immediately and take a photo. But if doesn’t register anything it’s a bit like a needle in a haystack. Invested a lot of cash into the rig so hoping can get it sorted. Will keep everyone posted
Thanks. Yeah this seems to be the common feedback and a restart makes the error go away. Now just need to work out what’s triggering it in the first place
It seems to be a low range issue. I always use High Range when in hard or soft sand. Low range is too restrictive when momentum is required. Only use Low range in mountain goat country.
Literally turned the car off and gave it a good 15min before restarting. All the errors on the dash went and I was able to continue driving as normal 🤷♂️ Still not sure what caused it to start with but trying to get to the bottom of it with Ford.
Haha maybe mate 😂 The PS never let me down. Little beast! Yeah that’s the worry isn’t it - you can’t exactly sit there for 15min and wait for it to reset if you’re in a tricky spot, or the tides coming in etc. Hoping I can get to the bottom of it soon 🤞
Not good mark that’s why I’m not keen on technology in new cars .i have a 98 prado yes I’m limited to weight I can tow but not a lot of technology to go wrong hope all works out mate for you
Thanks mate. I knew there was a risk going to a new generation of 4WD that’s a big leap from the models before that there’s a risk of a few early gremlins. I do however need a fully functioning 4L and hopefully can get to the bottom of it because for everything else, it’s such an awesome car and tows like a dream. Will keep everyone posted.
Soft hot sand like thar you air down to .08 bar. I never buy a vehicle untill 3 years after launch, there is always some glitches and that includes toyota. Toyota owners just keep it to themselves or make an excuse why it went wrong.
Yep tyre pressure is really important. And with you 100% on owners of other brands. Plenty who aren’t tea spent when things go wrong. No brand is immune from issues
mate of mine works at a ford dealership only going by what he told me. Another mate of mine nearly cooked his box at wilbinga, guess its luck of the draw they all have there faults.
@slots412 thanks. Yeah just find it interesting as Ford have been running the 10R80 in the US since 2017 so it’s had plenty of runtime so surprised there would be any sort of issue. Yeah that’s it all cars can have issues - no make or model is immune.
Seen many happy owners of the new Ranger so wouldn’t stress mate. Any new model is bound to be a few that have issues. Saying that, I want to get to the bottom of it as need a fully functioning 4L and the confidence I can use it if needed. I’ll keep everyone posted
Unfortunately it’s a ford v6, the same engine that powered a bunch of land rovers and was known for its unreliability. I would not buy a ford as ford, in terms of sales only sells one car.. the ranger and its wagon version Everest, if something disrupts ranger sales ford will do a Holden and disappear. On a practical note everyone who is exploring in any kind of semi remote or brace area should invest in a good quality OBd reader that can read current faults, reset codes, log data, it’s very common for the faults to only be held in current or active memory, you could log a heap of temperate, oil pressures, sensor outputs, transmission states, boost levels, requested torque , inlet air temp and work out what’s going on pretty quickly, it’s as an essential tool as a socket or screwdriver
Too soon to determine what is the cause - engine, transmission, a sensor.. Could be anything. Overall it’s been a very reliable motor for me. Just need to get this 4L issue resolved. I carry a ScanGauge 2. If it does it again will certainly not assume it’s logged a code and see if I can take a photo of the code whilst the car is running. There is also the chance however, that the issue I’m having is not dropping a code at all. Will keep everyone posted.
There’s certainly a bit going on with these new cars. Whilst I’ve had some early glitches I must say overall the tech works well. I’m sure they’ll get better too with ongoing software updates
Don’t mind a mitsi - my previous Pajero Sport was very reliable rig. That’s said, neither a PS or Pajero comes close to the towing performance of the V6 Ranger which is really important to us
They’ve made plenty of great cars. You have to remember the Ranger/Everest/Amarok platform is huge step forward for the category and as a result is the no.1 selling car in Aus. Based on the info I’ve received from this video it certainly doesn’t appear to be a common issue, but now have enough info to give a more detailed update to Ford. Irrespective of how prevalent an issue is, it’s still far from ideal and hopefully can get to the bottom of it soon.
This is Comedy Gold, "I'll take it back to Ford and get it sorted" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I guess should just accept there being an issue then? Of course it’s on Ford. They’ve been really good to date and closer to finding out what’s going on. Will provide an update in my next vid.
(Have the bi turbo) Have had the gearbox valve body replaced, the tail shaft and now the high end turbo is making grinding noise… apparently that’s “within spec”… lost all trust with ford with their “engineers”
@reubentascon939 mate that sucks. If there’s issues keep on it. Hopefully that’s the end of an unlucky run for you
I had a very similar experience with the V6 Everest just recently. Got up the Yeargerup dune entrance in 4L but as I hit the top it went limp and threw the same error your shows on the dash. It happened again on Callcup Hill, again in 4L. It goes up in 4H without any issue, but 4L is my go-to when I think I'll get bogged so it's a bit concerning.
Anyway the errors that my obd scanner can see is P061B-61, P061B-62 and P061B-64 all described as 'Torque Calculation - Performance Problem'.
I'm yet to take mine back to Ford for further investigation.
This is great info thanks mate! I’ve had a few other people reach out since seeing my video. Another person last night provided me with the same code so I think we’re onto something.
I’ll provide this information to Ford and hopefully can get a resolution.
I can’t assume Ford were aware of the issue before I first communicated my issue so the more of us that flag it with them the better.
I understand the 4L 4H thing, but what mode have you selected... Wet, mud, sand, stones or low... I think that's where the issue lies in sand mode, I think it's not a problem, but try setting it to "BAJA" mode. So everything is POWERFULL!
XLT doesn’t get those drive modes so it’s just normal ☹️
The new Rangers here in South Africa do the same thing in soft sand when you slightly bogged.
A well known 4x4 presenter guy this side says he has had the same issue across a number of models including the Raptor. 4H and 4L.
He says it’s the gearbox. When that happens the revs are limited to 1600RPM and the gearbox can get power / drive onto the wheels.
Been a while since he reported it to Ford but they have not had any answers yet.
That’s really interesting! As a bit of an update on mine - since I had the front radar sensor changed over, I’m yet to have any issues. I explained this a little more in this vid ua-cam.com/video/Z_SziNuA8h0/v-deo.htmlsi=G7fnApEzyAKbUBep
awesome vid Mark, sorry to hear your problem with the Ford, the problem in most cases is fuel filter , lack of fuel to the fuel pump which can throw a code , but you can clear these codes and replace the filter and all is good, you have a EDS that will show the code that is the problem , Ford found no problems , i'm sure they will get it sorted
Thanks mate. Yeah lack of code is an issue.. I’ve heard from a number of owners after my video who have had the same thing happen so I can also provide this context to Ford. I’m sure it’s something minor, but none the less annoying
Sounds like a similar issue I had on Moreton island, towing a camper trailer in soft sand. Car seemed to be Revving like it had power but wasn’t coming through transmission well that’s what it seemed like.
Another time I was towing my mates broken down 4wd out of the bush. Got a code on my Obd scanner P061B(61) torque calculation performance problem. Was able to clear and keep going but not great.
Both times were in 4L with traction control properly off and trans temps were warm but not in the orange.. haven’t asked ford about it but keen to hear your results
Thanks! This is helpful and you’re the first person that’s recalled this issue that’s being able to supply a code. Much appreciated !
you should report it, the more people that report it the more ford will look into fixing it
This is why the coil cabs will forever hold a place for me, comfort, power and reliability. Hate the new cars beeping at me for trying to down shift at Revs they don’t like, not having a seatbelt on when i start it or things like limp mode. Can’t beat mechanical. Even 79 series get limp mode codes for random reasons which also seams to happen when in soft sand when you need it most.. what is your coolant temp normally I note you said it was at 99, that should be safe still given a pressurised system however I wonder if it was climbing rapidly and the engine senses a risk and cuts fuel delivery?
Yeah for sure. The beeps can be annoying. I have my ritual everytime I start the car turning things off ha!
Coolant is usually well under 100 - this was a particularly warm day and soft sand. These cars will definitely go into protection mode if they detect things getting too hot.
At times I wish I had something oldschool, but on the flipslide this is so nice to drive as a daily and tows like a dream. Always pros and cons hey.
I had similar experience with an Everest, turned out to be dirt/dust in a electrical connector at the front of the vehicle. Maybe you've got beach sand in a connection somewhere
Ford have been digging further and found a fault code, which could be connected. I’ll give an update next week in a vid 👍
I can tell you from personal experience that FORD can see all incidents that can cause limp mode and when the incident occurred, even hidden ones that can come on for a short period before no further indication to the user even if you don't use the Sync App. As soon as you get within cell coverage all warnings and messages displayed on dash will be uploaded. If you have turned off the vehicle location and data connection this will be stored for a period but note some messages may only hold for 150 restarts of the engine.
I own a FORD Ranger Raptor 2020.75 and had a minor issue with hard transmission shifting that had a message then disappeared on a return trip from Melbourne, I went in to FORD at Toowoomba and they were able to see all messages that had been synced to their system and all messages sent through to the Synch app. They had more information than was sent to the app, they also could see how many restarts it would take before the message would be deleted. Issue has since been corrected, no further issues.
They had the car a whole day and assured me there were no codes 🤷♂️ Hopefully like your issue, mine can be resolved
I believe that the issue stand in high temp in your transfer case. As they don't have a gauge but they do have a sensor most likely the transfer case temp would have been very high driving in 4L. I have had no issue with mine but I have used 4L only once usually I drive in 4A or 4H in sand mode with rear diff locked... See if you can measure transfer case temp if is doing it again just out of curiosity and let us know or try and use sand mode.. If you don't have it your ford dealer should be able to activate it or simply use 4H and rear diff lock and it set by Ford in sand mode
4L should be fine for the short use I had it in. The Manual states it can be used for deep sand - which was the conditions I was in. I’ve been ok in 4H to date. A fault code has been found by Ford on looking into it deeper - I’ll cover off in my next vid.
Your fans are hillarious while passing over the dune🎉🎉🎉🎉
Haha we had a mini cheer squad 😂
Concerning about the car dying mate! Keep us updated for the outcome!
Took the family out to Milligans Island camping node last weekend after seeing your video. Top spot 👌 unfortunately while I was circling natures window with my drone it dropped out and disappeared 😢 turned a good 4 day trip into a sad one 😂
Oh no on the drone!! That turned into an expensive trip for you 😔
Yeah will keep everyone updated on the Ranger. It’s driving perfect day-to-day but annoying I haven’t got to the bottom of what’s going in in 4L yet
About to get my ranger sport from Wangara. Worrying video. I’ll be rewatching your ppf and intercooler vids the night it arrives
Yes a tad worrying but determined to get to the bottom of it and hopefully it’s something minor. Congrats on the car - enjoy it 😄
I agree
Keep us posted mate just waiting on a 2024.5 wildtrak
Will do!
same mate. I get mine next month. Def interested in finding out what's going on.
Will keep everyone posted. Doesn’t appear to be a common issue which is good news. Going back to Ford for more tests so should have an update soon.
Makes me want to go back to my HJ61 Landcruiser! Hasn't happened to me yet but keen to hear how you fix this!
Yeah the older rigs certainly appear more bush proof, but these Rangers are lovely to drive and capable. I’m sure it’s something minor and will share updates when I know more
Hello, Greetings from Spain, I have been waiting for my Raptor for 3 months now, I hope it arrives soon. There is no doubt that it is a piece of 4x4 with everything it comes standard. My humble opinion, even without having the car yet, I think it is not a problem, maybe when driving on sand you have not set the driving mode correctly and the ranger may think that it is slipping and pressing the brakes, like the traction control, it is not If you tried putting low mode, they say that "almost everything" is disconnected. I still remember my first time just leaving the dealership with my Mitsubishi DiD Montero without having any idea about driving a 4x4 20 years ago, I went to the beach and tried to go but the car stayed, I stepped harder and braked harder, I went to It lasted closer to the water and when I turned to go back there it stayed....The traction control towards theirs, I said last chance, 4x4 low gear...plim disconnected and when I stepped on it I left there as if it were in a tank of chains...with a smile from side to side. Later, with many more inventions, I always thought that the Mitsubishi was a true tank that went for everything, they even put a lock on it. I think the new ranger is a great car "the M1 Abrams"
Hi! Thanks for your feedback but I can guarantee this is car and not driver error. All assists were off to prevent traction control and ESC. Ford are investigating it.
I drive a 1990 HZJ75 no electronics and no comfort but so easy to diagnose. It’s either fuel or air, low battery not a problem if your parked facing downhill 😂
Yeah the older rigs have a lot less that can go wrong that’s for sure. Certainly makes them more bush proof.
My guess that is that some how sand is getting sucked in to something and it’s getting stuck when you take off the power and then put power back on and car sensors are trying to protect itself by going into limp mode.
Kind of like when outboard motor sucks a bit of sand if you keep the power on it should pass through the motor but as soon take off the power it will stick and the outboard will start to overheat or go into limp mode when you want to go faster. With out outboard it’s happened to me without any codes.
My air filter element was clear of sand and have secondary filter on the snorkel too. Others experiencing this have messaged me off the back of this video and they have had a error code which relates to 'Torque Calculation Performance Problem'. I’ll be passing this onto Ford and we what they say.
Hahahaha wow. Interesting diagnosis!
@@josephdignam123 others not had any codes like me. Let’s see
Sorry, my first comment was in response to the one about “sand getting in somewhere”
Mate , it's a "Ford Thing" 🤣🤣🤣Mine went into limp mode at wooramel station, same deal , tyres down, alarm on dash, low range and I got bogged at the time 🙃🙃🙃
Restarted the car after digging out ( and turning traction control off, always forget to do that ) out of limp mode so I recon your on the money with lower pressures ( alarm ) and low range driving. The car probably thought there was an issue, they are too smart these days.
I also had a limp mode experience towing the caravan way out in the wheatbelt and had water in my fuel, limp mode, then it shut the car down, A 2 hour tow truck ride to Geraldton, mechanic clears about 20 codes, changed fuel filter, then we were good to go. Again had the car not gone into limp mode and shutting down I may have been looking at a new engine.
I also felt that the car wasn't reliable to take us to the places we go, but now , touch wood 😁😁😁I know it will get us home. I now have a scan tool just incase I have to phone a friend 😁😁😁and as back up Full RAC cover 👍👍👍
Cheers Andy 🍺🍺🍺
Thanks Andy! I’m glad you were able to sort it out. Did you flag this with Ford? If you managed to note down any of the codes, it would be great to know what these were as I can pass this information onto Ford. I have no codes so a little like a needle in a haystack. Feel free to message any further info direct via Facebook messenger or Instagram. Thanks mate
Gday . My wildtrac dose the same when the tyres are let down for beach driving. I reset them for the lower pressure but some days it keeps doing it . I just turn the motor off and it resets straight away 😁
Still a pain
Thanks mate. Usually the tyre pressures reader resets after pumping the tyres up and driving at normal speed for a bit. On this day it didn’t - but has been fine since towing home from that trip
The computer has a max an min tyre pressure. If you go above Max or below Min it will throw a code and go into limp mode. {FORscan} will let you change those parameters. I just run "off-road wheels" with no pressure sensors at all.
Thanks. I’ll pass this comment onto Ford, however I have run my tyres at pressures lower than this trip many times before and not gone into limp mode.
@@Perth4WDandCampingwhat Tyre pressure do you run on the soft sand .
I get mine in a few months ,and loving your family adventures.
G’day Paul. Really depends on the sand/terrain. 14PSI is generally good on the Mickey Thompson’s as they don’t bag out as much as 2 ply AT tyres. They are 3 ply tyre so quite thick. I’ve had them as low as 10PSI before. For firmer rocky tracks around 24PSI, and have had them at 18PSI for some slippery trails. Short answer is test what works best on your tyres.
In sand you should be in low range with the rear locker, locked. This shuts off the nannies and will run locked up to 60 mph. Also try double tapping the traction control button in Sport Mode.
Certainly for deep sand yes which was how I’ve used it and the direction Ford state in the manual. Interestingly, ‘sand mode’ which is a feature on the Sport, Wildtrak and Platinum models activates 4H. I don’t understand why they don’t provide all the drive modes to XLT owners given it’s all the same running gear.
Cool video man! I don't have a ford but all new cars are susceptible to this random tech shit which sucks.
W.A looks great, would love to get over there someday.
Spot on mate. Yeah so much tech going on in these new cars. Hopefully can get to the bottom of it as overall it’s a great car. Yeah we’re very lucky over here in WA 😃
It doesn’t make any difference what make you buy.... this sort of new technology is still in the teething stage... i work in the mining industry and Toyota's go crazy when they drive in muddy conditions and the dash lights up like a Christmas tree with faults....my next gen Raptor hasnt missed a beat... been from Kalgoorlie to Queensland and back towing a camper trailer... thrashed it on Frazer island and still perfect.
100% mate. Can happen to any make/model. Still annoying, but hopefully can get to the bottom of it 🤞
Mate I had exactly the ame issue at Ledge Point of all places. Maybe it doesn't like that area? :D I also thought it could be due to tyre pressure, which makes no sense as we should be letting them down for sand. On the way back out, the thing drove like it should and I was happy as a first time owner. I was a bit underwhelmed on the way there, now knowing I was in limp mode.
Haha Yeah maybe it doesn’t like the beaches up there. Suggest just keep an eye on it. Will be doing more testing of mine with new front radar on on upcoming trips (replaced under warranty)
@@Perth4WDandCamping Awesome I'll try and keep an eye on your stuff as I didn't get notified of your reply. Did they say the radar could've affected this?
@danvirgo1162 yes correct mate. Also you’re not subscribed already, by doing so you should get notified when each video goes live ☺️
It's the new ford amarock
Yep that it. Amarok sharing the same platform as the V6 Ranger, albeit with some cosmetic changes
well done on getting it well documented I've seen guys on FB mentioning the same issue and ford saying they can replicate it, what mode did you have it in? sand mode?
did you try it with the higher tyre pressures or different modes etc.
Thanks mate. Was just normal drive mode with traction and ESC off and 14PSI. There’s no sand mode in the XLT (which in itself I don’t understand as it’s running the same equipment as the Sport and Wildtrak). Seems to be driving fine in 4H
You can activate sand and sport modes with forscan, i activated sport mode on my wildtrak, its pretty simple to do, I'm in jindalee if you need help with it
Thanks mate. Appreciate the offer. Realise it can be added - unfortunately it’s not a permanent fix tho and gets wiped when Ford do software updates at services. I guess if people have the patience they can just keep adding it back, but I really think Ford should have offered these drive modes across the whole v6 range - especially when the software is the same across the models.
Anything to do with ABS? Ive seen videos where people leave it on the car hates it on soft sand
I did the long hold on the traction control button so everything was disabled
May be I dont know better, but I drive in manual mode when in soft sand. The ford seem to do better that way in my experience.
Could be mate but saying that the 10 speed box should be able to work it out..
Probably too early to get to concerned… doesn’t matter what car you buy these days they have some sort of electrical gremlin pop up… just gotta find it… could be inside the big thing on the front grill… called the Ford badge 😂😂.. ( just joking, we just took delivery of our Everest platinum)
Haha all good mate. I left myself right open making this vid 🤣 I’m sure there has to be a solution - just gotta work out what it is… Otherwise they are cracking cars.
I’m onto my fifth new Hilux never had a single issue… I also go beach driving and fishing most weekends. Toyota FTW ❤
Sometimes just luck of the draw? I have Toyota mates that have had some issues - no brand is immune.. I think with these Rangers tho, there’s so much new tech that you only need a sensor to fail etc and cause issues. When everything is working as it should it’s the best 4WD I’ve ever driven - but I need that confidence to use it in 4L. Hope can get the bottom of it 🤞
You have ut detailed i would not let it rest with Ford until it is sorted. If that means taking someone from Ford HQ to the beach to try out so be it. Pity you couldn't reset it out of limp mode wuth a code reader?
If you cant trust maybe flip it for a new Hybrid Hilux
Yeah I really needed it to drop a code. The fact it hasn’t is concerning in itself. If it happens again I’ll have a look on the Scanguage to see if any codes dropped immediately and take a photo. But if doesn’t register anything it’s a bit like a needle in a haystack. Invested a lot of cash into the rig so hoping can get it sorted. Will keep everyone posted
it happened to me once, I turned off the car and started after couple of minutes and everything was okai in my Ranger Raptor
Thanks. Yeah this seems to be the common feedback and a restart makes the error go away. Now just need to work out what’s triggering it in the first place
It seems to be a low range issue. I always use High Range when in hard or soft sand. Low range is too restrictive when momentum is required. Only use Low range in mountain goat country.
Manual states to use 4L in deep sand, but yes seems only related to that mode. I’ll be providing an update on the issue tomorrow
How did you fix it mate . You said you restarted your car . What do you mean by that
Literally turned the car off and gave it a good 15min before restarting. All the errors on the dash went and I was able to continue driving as normal 🤷♂️
Still not sure what caused it to start with but trying to get to the bottom of it with Ford.
See you back in a Pajero Sport shortly? Just kidding, but that is very worrying, especially if you were in a precarious position.
Haha maybe mate 😂 The PS never let me down. Little beast!
Yeah that’s the worry isn’t it - you can’t exactly sit there for 15min and wait for it to reset if you’re in a tricky spot, or the tides coming in etc. Hoping I can get to the bottom of it soon 🤞
Ford build tough😂
Not good mark that’s why I’m not keen on technology in new cars .i have a 98 prado yes I’m limited to weight I can tow but not a lot of technology to go wrong hope all works out mate for you
Thanks mate. I knew there was a risk going to a new generation of 4WD that’s a big leap from the models before that there’s a risk of a few early gremlins. I do however need a fully functioning 4L and hopefully can get to the bottom of it because for everything else, it’s such an awesome car and tows like a dream. Will keep everyone posted.
If no codes are coming up it’s probably a software issue perhaps? 🤞
Still being looked into but looks like has a faulty distance sensor. I’ll cover this off in an update when I know more and part replaced.
Is you fordpass activated, you can see the error codes if there are any.
Yes it is. Nothing noted 🤷♂️
Soft hot sand like thar you air down to .08 bar. I never buy a vehicle untill 3 years after launch, there is always some glitches and that includes toyota. Toyota owners just keep it to themselves or make an excuse why it went wrong.
Yep tyre pressure is really important. And with you 100% on owners of other brands. Plenty who aren’t tea spent when things go wrong. No brand is immune from issues
Jammer maar jou laaste opmerking is bollie. Toyota sedert 1982 en nog nooit nodig gehad om verskonings uit te dink nie.
Transmission in the new rangers are having major problems have heard ford might me doing a major recall.
Interesting. I’m active on most of the Ranger groups and haven’t heard of common issues with transmissions. Do you mind elaborating further?
mate of mine works at a ford dealership only going by what he told me. Another
mate of mine nearly cooked his box at wilbinga, guess its luck of the draw they all have there faults.
@slots412 thanks. Yeah just find it interesting as Ford have been running the 10R80 in the US since 2017 so it’s had plenty of runtime so surprised there would be any sort of issue.
Yeah that’s it all cars can have issues - no make or model is immune.
Ya wouldn't believe it a discount code again! I brought a mozfog and it's shit! Have videos of mozzie flying around it getting high and loving life!
Ah think you’ve commented on the wrong vid… 🤭
😂😂😂
@@mozzieridd3074 haha
@@Perth4WDandCamping just dropped cash in a v6 wildtrak so keen to see what happened to yours too
Seen many happy owners of the new Ranger so wouldn’t stress mate. Any new model is bound to be a few that have issues. Saying that, I want to get to the bottom of it as need a fully functioning 4L and the confidence I can use it if needed. I’ll keep everyone posted
Unfortunately it’s a ford v6, the same engine that powered a bunch of land rovers and was known for its unreliability. I would not buy a ford as ford, in terms of sales only sells one car.. the ranger and its wagon version Everest, if something disrupts ranger sales ford will do a Holden and disappear. On a practical note everyone who is exploring in any kind of semi remote or brace area should invest in a good quality OBd reader that can read current faults, reset codes, log data, it’s very common for the faults to only be held in current or active memory, you could log a heap of temperate, oil pressures, sensor outputs, transmission states, boost levels, requested torque , inlet air temp and work out what’s going on pretty quickly, it’s as an essential tool as a socket or screwdriver
Too soon to determine what is the cause - engine, transmission, a sensor.. Could be anything. Overall it’s been a very reliable motor for me. Just need to get this 4L issue resolved.
I carry a ScanGauge 2. If it does it again will certainly not assume it’s logged a code and see if I can take a photo of the code whilst the car is running. There is also the chance however, that the issue I’m having is not dropping a code at all.
Will keep everyone posted.
to much electronics
There’s certainly a bit going on with these new cars. Whilst I’ve had some early glitches I must say overall the tech works well. I’m sure they’ll get better too with ongoing software updates
Never buy a Ford
Buy a gen 4 pajero. Problem solved.
Don’t mind a mitsi - my previous Pajero Sport was very reliable rig. That’s said, neither a PS or Pajero comes close to the towing performance of the V6 Ranger which is really important to us
its a ford cant expect much ....
I just expect it to work as promised. Lot of money for these cars. Hopefully can get to the bottom of it soon 🤞
ford have never made a good car and now they have stuffed the amarok
They’ve made plenty of great cars. You have to remember the Ranger/Everest/Amarok platform is huge step forward for the category and as a result is the no.1 selling car in Aus.
Based on the info I’ve received from this video it certainly doesn’t appear to be a common issue, but now have enough info to give a more detailed update to Ford. Irrespective of how prevalent an issue is, it’s still far from ideal and hopefully can get to the bottom of it soon.