Mouse Cheese Commodore 64 | Nostalgia Nerd
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2018
- Here we have an box of items, collectively known as "Mouse Cheese". The purpose of this box is to provide mouse capability to the humble C64, and give you a paint program to use it with. The mouse is (of course), the Mouse portion of this package, whilst the paint program is known as Cheese. What a wondrous thing. Oh, also, the mouse can also be used as a Joystick. Because, reasons.
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Whenever a chef is called exellent, a wild Ashens soon appear.
Your rat is freakin' adorable. Also, make sure to put your floppy disk in the Chef Excellence cheese bags after use. Don't want it spoiling!
Stay fresh, cheese disk!
An excellent cheese bag
I miss Chef Excellence
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Its not "nye-on", its "ni-hon", which means Japan.
anglons will never learn apperently
My Mum and Dad bought me the C64c Counesiour Collection for Xmas from Dixons for £299 and with a handful of blank cassettes and friends the in pack games didn't last long, Cluedo and Monopoly were ok though. I knew I'd seen that Mouse and cheese box somewhere in the thumbnail, oh the memories this has brought back, as always thanks NN.
OMG I had one of these. I have not seen one for 30 years. You brought back some happy memories.
(I even wrote my own version of "mac paint" for it .)
Wow I can remember this as a child in the 80's loved how you could create digital drawings. You could also save them with the tape version too.
But mainly used it with Arkanoid having competitions with my dad who could get furthest.
Anyway thanks for showing such a classic piece of equipment. Keep up the good work.
Is it any Gouda? Well done sir. Well done.
Oh wow, I almost forgot about 'Mouse Cheese', at least in the sense I forgot its name. I had one of these with my Commodore C64c around Christmas 1988 or 89, I forget which. But What fond memories I have. Cheese was a pretty good little paint package too. The only game I remember using the Neos mouse for was Operation Wolf, as it was a heck of a lot easier than with the joystick!
"An Excellent Mousecheese"
Oh, I had this! I remember getting it in a car boot sale in the early 90s. The paint program was cool. I remember the C64 version of Operation Wolf had proper support for it too.
Great video. Always love the content here.
Quick note: the nomenclature for the Commodore mouse was never “one three fifty” or “one three five one”. Always “thirteen fifty” or “thirteen fifty one”.
Wow I never thought I would ever see another device with American SNES colors!
"Remove the sponge from the rear cver" at 5:32. Apparently proof reading wasn't a thing in the 80s? 😂
Also, "conent the cheese".
I still remember the day I got mine, my father bought it for me and I remember being in the car looking inside the box on the way home. I'd already gotten a printer before then so it was great to be able to print out pictures instead of text. I'd quite often draw and print out pictures for visitors. Was a damn sight better than a Koala pad anyway.
I like these vintage hardware/software videos a lot.
Brings back happy memories of drawing pictures using Canvas on the Atari ST. We only had the demo version with save disabled so we just videoed our creations.
Nice find! I do have NEOS mouse with Cheese and a slot expander for the MSX system.
hmmm someone stole a rat off octav1us kitten
Do they live in the same town?
@@acertainshape I've got a strong feeling that they are secretly married. Which is fine. The only problem is whether to call Nostalgia Nerd "Nostalgia Kitten" or Octavius Kitten "Octavius Nerd".
To be honest I don't think it's fair to call Octavius a nerd so I'm going with Nostalgia Kitten.
@@IceCreamKimi nurds don't mind being called nurds. Hence the name of this channel..
@@colinjohnston8519 What I was getting at is that when people get married one usually takes the surname of the other. So I was weighing up who should take the other's name. Octavius or Nerd?
So I agree that nerds don't mind being called nerds (mostly). However I'm talking about Octavius. If she is a nerd though then I stand corrected.
@@octaviusking Sigh, what happened to the good old days when the guy got down on one knee, looked you in the eyes and said "I forged your signature on the marriage license. We're married"
I had a 1351 and GEOS; I also used it to play a few "desktop" type games, Origin Software's OGRE in particular. It had drop-down menus, etc., you could context click on units on screen, etc. Very mac-like.
My dad had this. Must've been the late eighties. Loaded it up once, drew some lines, then used the mouse for Arkanoid!
I've got the tape version. It hasn't got the instructions, so it's interesting to find out about the different mode. Very nice to see Arkanoid supports it. I never could figure out the Image System.
So Octavious rats do cameo appearance ;)
Arkanoid... wow, I must have spent hundreds and hundreds of hours playing that. One of my all time favourite 8-bit games from my youth!
Had this via the Connoisseur's Collection and I really thought I was living in the future. While I didn't take to the Cheese application the joystick mode was useful as a stopgap however, when my QuickShot 2's leaf switches broke when playing Warhawk, and it came into its own by the time Operation Wolf came round!
I remember getting a mouse for my 8-bit Sharp computer. Apart from a paint program and Arkanoid, it was also great for Lemmings... and not much else.
Grafik Maus sounds like the name of a German EDM band.
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I got a C64 as my first computer for my 8th birthday, and it came with this. SYS 4096 is forever engraved on my brain.
I had this bundle! Got it as a kid as a reward for getting a wart removed from my thumb. Which meant the mouse hurt for three weeks. Worth it!
Bloody hell, I had this as a kid! I have no idea what happend to it but I'm glad I had the disk version. I dont remember using the mouse on anything else other than Cheese.
I had this! Did a fair bit of drawing with it, and played a lot of Operation Wolf :D
Got this with my C64 and had a lot of fun with it
Looks pretty neat. I've been meaning to find a 1530 so I can try out GEOS with the 64C I recently acquired.
I love the nod to Chef Excellence. LOL
Mouse and cheese. What lovely simple times. Fast forward 20+ years later and what we get? Two girls and one cup.
The styrofoam story was great! My experience was trying to spray paint a large styrofoam airplane.
Memories
Got one of these too, used it to play Operation Wolf more than doodling on Cheese but there you go
"Yea, Michael I'm just gonna get a GINSTER'S from the FRIDGE, put it on the SLATE!"
I loved this thing with GEOS back in the day on my C128
I had Cheese for my C64. Loved it!
Great video as always.
Have you done anything on GEOS at all?
Had exactly that mouse in the day. The softvare was crap but the mouse was wonderful to use in other programs. Such a difference compared to a joystick or keyboard.
I have a bunch of these and find it astounding for a ball mouse...what quality.
I had this on the C64. GEOS too. Such a nerd.
If I remember my Residents lore correctly, the Neos Mouse and Cheese program was used to make the text on their album "Stars and Hank Forever". The main artwork was done on an Amiga, but PourKnow Graffixs did the text on a c64 to make sure it had the blocky pixelated look they wanted.
Pornographics (and all variations on that spelling wise), is the name of the design arm of the Residents output. In case someone was wondering.
A band called TTF (The Time Feequency) did a cover for one of their singles on a amstrad 6128 with a similar bit of software and hardware :) Amstrad Action did a article on it away back in the day....
Had the floppy disk version, used the enhancer 2000 disk drive, not a sex aid, to load it. It was a bit of fun at the time, but Deluxe Paint on the Amiga a few years later, changed my world.
You wouldn't happen to have any more books in the works by any chance? I need more!
Still got my mouse and cheese, I remember doing quite alot of artwork with it. Until I could get a better paper-round and save for a500 with deluxe paint. Cheese was my art program of choice (not that I had any others).
There was someone offering a version of this for the Tatung Einstein. It was the same mouse but with an adapter and software written for the Einstein. I tried to get hold of it in the early 90s through B&H Computers but they couldn't get hold of the mice anymore :(
Thank god the inventor of the mouse didn't call it a "nob".
so many pointless arguments over who called whom a nobhead when you really just said nobpad
How many times have you grabbed your nob
Hey, we have enough of those jokes already because of 'joystick' thanks. ;p
The Norwegian word for mouse is slang for vagina. But we have gotten so used to it so it is almost not funny anymore :(
That would be Douglas Engelbart. Look up ‘mother of all demos’.
11:25 I recall how with some kind of games I did use a joystick, I had no doubt the arrow keys were the way to go in this case, and as a matter of fact, if joystick had been the only option, I might have quit playing that game.
what a "cheesy" video :D
i need more of that rat, please use the boy in more videos.
Ah the 80s where computer mouse packages are bundled with paint-like program.
I remember using this and running it through a VHS and creating animation - the result was terrible because a)pausing and restarting on a VHS left a load of distortion and b)I can't draw for toffee! - still it was fun and kept me quiet for days!
one question though: on the disk it says "SYS 16484" but you run it by "SYS 4096". why?
Love the reference to Stuart
I had this mouse back in the day, i got it for Operation Wolf if i remember correctly :)
Good stuff way ahead of its time
Agreed
Sooooo, who remembers the genuine cheese in Mercenary then? No mouse needed there!
Wow I remember spending ages trying to draw with a joystick on Image System. I could never figure out how to change colour though!
I had this mouse, it works great with Operation Wolf
I spent so much time with Koala Painter and a joystick, drawing was one of the best things to do with a home computer.
The 5:26 mark was An Excellent cameo
I have Arkanoid CIB floppy disk version for my C64 but the boxed Commodore-brand mouse I was sold with it is an Amiga mouse. :(
Still, it supports ubiquitous paddle controllers so all is not lost!
“There are some more things to click here. In any case I hope you have a -great evening- [mouse].”
...in an era when most of us will be using track pads and touch screens.
9:09 Me trying to draw something just by looking at it and thinking "well, it's just copying something, easy task"
The mouse is good enough to go back in time...
GEOS! Oh, those memories...
A neat little video. One more thing: have you tried your NEOS Mouse with GEOS? That could be an interesting topic for another video.
I had that mouse, it came with the GEOS package.
An Excellent Product
The subtitles are great. xD
Those mouses look a lot like the atari ST mouses which use optical sensors, which also seemingly just die like this. Usually a it's capacitor / chip failure which can be fixed easily enough.
An Excellent Product.
Looks super fluid in the paint program, compared to the 1351. Keep mine around pretty much just to play Arkanoid. It's indeed pretty clunky using paint programs or GEOS.
The Neos mouse seems to have more supported games than the 1351 as well.
I want a "pint" command for my computer. so that I can type it in any time I like and get a pint of lager. (kind of like a muffin button...)
This reminds me of the snes mouse
I think it actually sends data in serial form over the direction lines. That's why it interferes with the keyboard. The POT lines (paddles) shouldn't do that.
I found a Japanese version of that mouse for the MSX at a garage sale sometime a few years ago. I live in upstate NY. I have no idea how it got here.
**An excellent ashens reference.**
The MSX version I have has the software on both tape and cartridge, quite handy. Also I can't remember the mouse interfering with anything else.
Is that Violife vegan cheese at the very start of the video? I'm addicted to that, especially the smoked variant!
I looked at the Neos mouse, but went with the CBM 1351 instead. The 1351 works fine with GEOS as well as DESKTOP in the Final Cartridge III.
Worth noting here, since it use special features of the SID chip that isn't of interest for games, it does not work with SwinSID and similar new SID replicas, only a genuine 8580 or a 6582 can be used, probably same with Paddles, but i haven't tested those.
Newer SwinSIDs support mice.
So was the first mouse broken because it was plugged in before loading? And would the second one work with the tape?
The Neos mouse was also compatable with Operation Wolf.
Pint Screen!? Will if you insist, bottoms up!
Your intro was very very funny. But in the interest of transparency you should know I'm 2 shots of rum in to my evening.
I had this. It was single-handedly responsible for making me think a mouse was a pointless pc peripheral until 1999...
Heh, I played that Super Copter game today.
Mouse cheese, or rather mouse trap cheese, is something you can actually buy in Norway
5:17 OMG ASHENS
For the mouse that didn't work, did you try it after the program had loaded per the instructions?
Mr. Jingles! And his theme music.
An excellent cameo.
An *Excellent* Mouse.
I see in the background the very same type of chair upon which i'm sitting at this very moment. It's insanely uncomfortable.
cheese, petrol
Underrated comment.
I never knew the C64 could even support a mouse. fascinating.
I don't think there was that much use for it though, not much software.. was there?
Can't say I ever cared about this mouse, nor do I find the branding anything but silly, but I think the VICE dev-team might actually be interested in this - friend of mine asked me about those neos mice a while ago. So feel free to contact them :)