How It Was Made: THE COMMODORE 64 factory tour

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  • @RetroRecipes
    @RetroRecipes  2 роки тому +259

    Thanks for watching! I'm delighted by the response to this restoration. Don't forget the original can always be seen at ua-cam.com/video/xu8Fi0tC9IA/v-deo.html. I know the machine learning algorithm isn't perfect but it makes things more palatable & either way can bring the C64 to a new audience - which was the goal! For a deeper dive into how I made this video please check out the description. C64 forever! To support more videos like this check out patreon.com/perifractic 🙏

    • @Vinz3ntR
      @Vinz3ntR 2 роки тому +6

      I was wondering why it looked washed out a bit, I rewatched it on my TV and that handles it much better than my PC LCD screen. Still a fantastic video!!

    • @CallousCoder
      @CallousCoder 2 роки тому +5

      You must have had a ice GPU polishing this up. Nice video as usually, Chris!

    • @cultistofgyarloth
      @cultistofgyarloth 2 роки тому +17

      I dearly love your videos but this ML upscaler has smoked some substances for sure.
      In some scenes it looks like an LSD fever dream. Things have double outlines, foreground and background items melt into each other (e.g. around 2:30). And sometimes the scene looks like it has geometry warping like in a PS1 game. Text is especially funny when it looks like sci-fi alien alphabets.
      It would be interesting to see the original. But next time I find some mushrooms I know what to watch :D
      PS: Oh, I see the otherworldly effects are much more noticeable on a big TV. Doesn't look so bad in a small YT window.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  2 роки тому +11

      @@CallousCoder Thanks! Each of the 5 different quality passes took 9 hours to render 😱

    • @sergeleon1163
      @sergeleon1163 2 роки тому +7

      Definitely and improvement over the 'original' footage and dubbed in English it's easier to understand by international viewers than the original German narration.
      I wonder how much time went in this project as it must have been many manhours to completely do this remaster, voice-over and editing.

  • @paulvanderlaak700
    @paulvanderlaak700 2 роки тому +153

    I have worked in a chip factory for 27 years. AND I owned a C64 from 1983 until now. Love that machine. The software and hardware developments are still ongoing. Thanx for this episode.

    • @fitfogey
      @fitfogey 2 роки тому +4

      Same here. Well not working at the chip factory part but still own mine as well. Breadbox beige version. Still love it.

    • @alberto3028
      @alberto3028 2 роки тому +1

      Why are all woman?

    • @maxxdahl6062
      @maxxdahl6062 2 роки тому +2

      @@Rodger_Phillips I got one too but unfortunately it suffered a death from the PSU. Do have a c64 DTV though that I have modded out to be more or less a back-up C64.

    • @TheAnkMan
      @TheAnkMan 2 роки тому +6

      Glad to hear you're keeping up with the Commodore, 'cause the Commodore is keeping up with you.

    • @PhilipKerry
      @PhilipKerry 2 роки тому +5

      @@alberto3028 Women have far greater manual dexterity than men and so much better suited to delicate factory processes .

  • @lawrencetate145
    @lawrencetate145 2 роки тому +52

    The C64 launched my career in software engineering back in 1982. I'm retired now at 60.

    • @chazlabreck
      @chazlabreck 7 місяців тому

      Yeah me too....had a 64 after high school I got used from someone and started to learn programmng . I was a repair tech for lots of things and was interested in computers ...I'm 66 now and still working .

    • @the_eminent_Joshua_E_Hrouda
      @the_eminent_Joshua_E_Hrouda 3 місяці тому

      Why retire ??

    • @ralfbaechle
      @ralfbaechle 3 місяці тому

      I'm younger than you but yes, it's been an important system for me, too.
      As computer technology improved things become buried in layers and layers of abstraction. Which all happened for a reason and enabled the wonder that modern software is - but it also blurred programmers' view at hardware level programming. During my carrier I noticed the kind of people who really understood low-level programming as progressively getting older. Only the comparatively - to the C64 - introduction of inexpensive systems based on ATMEL and similar processors changed that. So yes, the C-64 taught something very useful.

    • @lovemadeinjapan
      @lovemadeinjapan 2 місяці тому

      Then something went wrong. Engineers don't retire at 60. They keep doing side husles deep into their seventies. I think the C64 is to blame.

  • @cutter6900
    @cutter6900 2 роки тому +152

    No matter how many times I see the process of silicon chip manufacturing, I'm still in awe. Very cool to see such an iconic microchip (and the entire C64) being made and a look at MOS Technology. Thanks for all the effort put into this!

  • @vinmakesthings
    @vinmakesthings 2 роки тому +92

    It’s so good of you to restore this fascinating old documentary just as you have lovingly restored so many C64’s. It’s wonderful to learn how our home computer came to be. Great video!

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  2 роки тому +6

      Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️

  • @deangawler9727
    @deangawler9727 2 роки тому +16

    What great memories we all have of the Commodore 64. My Commodore 64 prompted me to build a career in IT which continues to this day. Fantastic video, thank you!

  • @daytona1212
    @daytona1212 2 роки тому +3

    I has so much fun with these commodores Vic20, 64 and Amiga. But I also had the Sinclair ZX81, ZX Spectrum and a ATARI. I still own a Commodore 64.

  • @kadeemccormick329
    @kadeemccormick329 2 роки тому +3

    In the mid 80s, I personally designed an electronics interface and wrote the software in 6502 assembler using the C64 as the hub device to run an automated educational Christian radio station. I did it all by myself in 6 weeks, quite an undertaking as i had only professionally written software in MIDAS, Fortran IV and Basic at the time for gamma ray spectroscopy. But I had just finished a Heathkit course in computer hardware when i was asked to do this. I would hope i still have a copy of the software somewhere. Thanks for restoring the film footage, it took me back to a simpler time. KD

  • @Godsrocker1970
    @Godsrocker1970 2 роки тому +4

    I was in the 9th grade when I first touched a computer, the TRS 80 model III. That was 1984 one year later I was introduced to Matt Kell who had the Commodore 64. My world was instantly transformed. Joining clubs and borrowing floppies to take home and make a copy. Any one remember getting ice in a container and putting it on power supply to help it stay cool so you could get to the next level of Jumpman or Space Taxi or Gateway to Apshai or Zork series or my favorite the Phantasie series. Oh how I miss those days where my only concern was completing a game, not having to get up to go to work, managing a marriage, raising children. A world about only you. I feel blessed that my entire teen years and 2 preteen years were from 1980 - 1989. What a time to be a teen.

  • @gamewizardks
    @gamewizardks 2 роки тому +52

    Man, this took me back, especially the Commodore theme. It's incredible that after 40 years this machine still has a huge fanbase, including myself. Great restoration of the old video!

    • @zybch
      @zybch 2 роки тому

      The theme gave me goosebumps. Even after so long the nostalgia is STRONG.

  • @dj_paultuk7052
    @dj_paultuk7052 2 роки тому +24

    As a 80's child its remarkable that we were able to make computers like this given the general tech that was available at that time. I will never forget that time in the UK and the "Home computer boom". We literally had more home computers than you could count on your fingers. Vic-20, C64, C16, Plus4, Spectrum, Oric-1, BBC Micros, Electrons, Dragon 32's, TRS80's, Texas instruments home computers, and so on. It was a crazy and fun time, something i dont think we will ever see again.

    • @xenorac
      @xenorac 2 роки тому

      Yep, and all those different systems had their own personalities!

    • @carguyuk7525
      @carguyuk7525 2 роки тому

      And computer magazines had something to show and discuss due to the variety. We had the RL 380z and commodore pet at my school, but at home I followed the Zx81 and bbc model b micro route, then had a 386sx16 by elonex. Once the IBM compatible PC arrived it was the death of all non ibm compatible home computers.

    • @joefish6091
      @joefish6091 2 роки тому +1

      @@carguyuk7525 IBM PC was 1981, they were seriously prices fully loaded, price of a house. 10K
      But mid 70s PDP11 mini computers the size of a filing cabinet sat at the side of a desk was 100K

    • @squirlmy
      @squirlmy 2 роки тому +1

      I think also with homebrew games on tape, the UK was a bit more exciting than the US. In the 80s, we waited patiently for cartridges then floppy disks. It never occurred to me I could seriously produce my own game and share it, ever. Or that I could work in the industry without going to Silicon Valley. It make me sad, actually.

    • @vladikuz
      @vladikuz 2 роки тому

      @@joefish6091 В Советском Союзе, с 1985 года производился домашний компьютер ("Электроника БК-0010"), который имел микропроцессор с системой команд, заимствованной у PDP-11 :)

  • @stephenbruce8320
    @stephenbruce8320 2 роки тому +31

    I not only kept up with the Commodore, but these old Commodores also still keep up with me.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 2 роки тому +1

      imagine the commodore 64 running the space shuttle man can you imagine that?

    • @atlantic_love
      @atlantic_love 2 роки тому +1

      When did the band retire?

  • @nowhereman4217
    @nowhereman4217 2 роки тому +40

    When I was 19 I worked at a plant that produced silicone wafers. I was in the growing department. It was the most interesting job I ever had. We’d build the silicon rocks together in a crucible, put it in a furnace and use either boron or arsenic. It would take around 12 hours to grow the ingot. Very cool job

    • @Araye
      @Araye 2 роки тому +4

      silicon*

    • @nowhereman4217
      @nowhereman4217 2 роки тому +1

      @@Araye 😂 yeah I saw that but just didn’t bother correcting it. I’m lazy that way I guess 🤣

    • @Reth_Hard
      @Reth_Hard 2 роки тому +2

      I also worked a lot with silicone, mostly for sealing bathtubs and sinks... :P

    • @zybch
      @zybch 2 роки тому +1

      The phrase 'pulling a silicone ingot' has a whole other connotation...

    • @IrrationalBstrd
      @IrrationalBstrd 2 роки тому

      @@zybch nice.. 🤣👍

  • @markracer3281
    @markracer3281 2 роки тому +5

    At 21:35, brought a wave of nostalgia and a tear drop or two... Thank you, Retro Recipes!!!

  • @thomashenden71
    @thomashenden71 2 роки тому +21

    The making of computer chips were and is still almost science fiction, with the projecting of circuits onto silicone from a photography. It is still impressive that it can practically be done with multiple layers and whatnot. Thanks for showing us this, imagine all the work that went into those computers and all other electronics that we take for granted!

  • @user-yr1uq1qe6y
    @user-yr1uq1qe6y 2 роки тому +20

    This episode has blown me away. It must be a combination of your passion for the subject and that magic Hollywood insider know how on production! And I’m sure hours and hours of hard work and sacrifice. This episode easily belongs right alongside all of the greatest Commodore documentaries of all time.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  2 роки тому +7

      Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️

  • @dgstephens
    @dgstephens 2 роки тому +49

    This is so nostalgically delightful! Oh, how I do wish there were more such "How it was Made" films from this era.

  • @AMindInOverdrive
    @AMindInOverdrive 2 роки тому +11

    This video brings back a lot of memories. Some of my friends had Commodore 64s when I was a kid. When I was about 20 yo I worked in a company called Taconic (in Ireland) which had a small separate factory for making the boards for printed circuits. I don't remember exactly what I was doing (because I was only working there when they needed extra help) - I remember they were a kind or copper color and we used a runny gravy-like liquid for etching them for some reason. We also cut them down to size from large sheets. There were ovens involved too. Anyway. Great video!!
    Edit: I also worked in an IBM chip manufacturing facility near Dublin for a short while. One job was I did was loading trays of tiny chips into a machine that electronically tested each one. Fun fact: They had a hard drive division called Storage Technology Division - my friend worked there and he suggested they change STD to something else (for obvious reasons) LOL - They changed it to something like SDD (Storage Drive Division)

  • @mharding1258
    @mharding1258 Рік тому +5

    I love these old machines. One of my hobbies is to buy broken 80's machines and restore them and so far in my collection I've got a Vic20 (the rarer 'VC20'), and 2 64's. One of them a 'Breadbin' original with a low serial number, and the later C64 model C. I adore these old machines and have a real passion for them. I feel sorry for the kids these days who will never know the joy of learning programming on these machines.

    • @trssho91
      @trssho91 6 місяців тому

      I have always loved the C64c or 128 design style, but never had one. I still have a lot of my original commodore equipment, but they are earlier. I have a bread bin 64 and two Vic 20s, with one of the Vic’s being very early. I also have accessories like two 1541s, tape drives, a 300 baud and 1200 baud modems, a mps printer, and a 1571 drive. The C64 was the heart on my setup, the accessories were all bought to connect to the C64 over the years. I wish I kept things like my commodore 1084 monitor, c16, plus 4, few other items…. But back then they were my daily use computers so the things I still have were the items that were most useful and taken care of ( to the point where I have the original boxes, manuals, etc). I ended up using the 1084 as a TV due to the really good picture quality until it wore out and died, then discarded….who would have thought back then that 30 years later I would miss it, lol. Today my son is learning about retro tech and really loves it, I built an emulator for him using an dell board with a amiga 2000 case that had a board beyond repair, he loves his ‘commodore’. It runs Linux and VICE so he can select C64, VIC20, C128, etc .. but he loves it’s in a commodore beige case and wired it up so the LEDs, power switch, etc all work as intended. :)

  • @geraldpatterson3903
    @geraldpatterson3903 2 роки тому +24

    Wow...as someone in logistics his whole life...seeing such extensive quality control makes me in awe of not having such standards today

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 2 роки тому +2

      The standards at a company like Intel must be even higher today. The latest processors have transistors with features 1/100 of the size of those MOS were making.

  • @raymitchell9736
    @raymitchell9736 2 роки тому +3

    This has to be the most significant video on this channel... You hit this out of the park for many reasons: 1. Historically recovering the building of the C64... WOW 😍, 2. How chips are manufactured, tested, etc. (more on that later), 3. PCB Assembly and test, 4. product assembly and tested.
    I know a lot of people who watch this channel have always grown up with a computer in the house, they never knew the days before. And a lot of what goes on inside the boxes are like magic, they have no clue what goes on behind the scenes to make it possible.
    I worked in the mid to late 90's at Hewlett Packard's (then became Agilent in 2000) Semiconductor Test Division in Santa Clara, CA... We built machines that big names semiconductor manufacturers like Intel, AMD, Fujitsu, etc. purchased to put in their cleanroom FABs to test their FLASH memory devices at wafer sort... in other words, while the FLASH chips were still a wafer, before they were cut into chips. Our machine interfaced with the prober and when the wafer was Z'ed up and the needle probes touched down, a signal was sent to our equipment to perform the test... The customers that used our equipment wrote their own proprietary scripts and patterns to run for their design (that's part of the secret sauce) , and there's a lot of magic that happens at test, including a tricky way they could "repair" the die if it didn't pass using redundant circuitry inside the chip, but in the end result is either PASS or FAIL. The ink dot in the center of the die indicated BAD or FAIL. Our testers had multiple test sites so we could test more dies at the same time to minimize the number of touchdowns needed, as they were limited and are slightly destructive to the bonding pads... I could write even more about this, but that's the big picture.
    In the video it was depicting a single die being tested, since I saw the ink dot, I knew that this wafer was bad and it was being run through the tester again for demo purposes... clearly that was not in a cleanroom, in production the whole thing is done in the cleanroom, the wafer would be loaded into the prober and the table is Z'ed up to allow the probes to contact... the table also is able to translate X and Y very precisely... I mean every little detail is so impressive! I digressed... Back to the wafer, it would test multiple dies at a time, at some point we were able to test up to 16 at a time, in parallel, we had interfaces with 100's of channels and each channel had the ability to set a voltage, read a voltage, characterize current, connect to a pattern generator... it was insane how much our tester could do in parallel. At the time I worked there we were part of the Semicon and they collaborated on a video called Silicon Run I ua-cam.com/video/kCLmR_TQcY8/v-deo.html and Silicon Run II... and there are other videos that explain the semiconductor chip manufacturing process... They still command high $$ for an old video, but something that the public is unaware of and sadly I think should be taught in school, I mean, Why not?!?
    So I hope you get a lot of positive feedback for the video with a lot of people saying they had no clue how this modern miracle of electronics is made possible... more people with respect and humility to know that we indeed stand on the shoulders of Giants! Kind regards!

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️

  •  2 роки тому +2

    Great episode!! I bought my first C64 in August of 1983. I was headed to the CCM (Center for Contemporary Music) at Mills College in Oakland, CA. This little PC changed my life! I was here for graduate school studying electronic music. I wrote and performed a lot of pieces using the C64's 3 voice synth chip with BASIC and assembly language routines creating loops to look up the variables for pitch and the poke and peek commands. I collaborated with a friend and we clock synched 2 C64s so we'd have 6 voices. I loved the fact you could use a tv for a monitor. Over time I purchased a monitor, 2 disk drives, and added a printer. Later, it was a wonderful game machine for my kids. It was an amazing computer and I still have a lot of fond memories.

  • @Nabraska49
    @Nabraska49 2 роки тому +4

    I still can’t get my head around the brilliance of the engineering and inventiveness also the manufacturing and tooling.. there must have been a massive amount of brilliantly talented people behind all of this spanning over many decades all adding their bit to make this possible..

  • @steveschein2619
    @steveschein2619 2 роки тому +1

    Mr. and Mrs. Fractic and all of the little Fractics.
    WOW!
    If I could express the countless different waves of nostalgia this video engenders. I was introduced to the world of vacuum tubes at the age of 5 in 1969 with Heathkit then moved on to my C64 in '82 -- then Amiga .... well you get the idea. The next phase was my college days at the University of Florida running the clean rooms for the EE dept. building chips while I was going to school. Just about everything in this documentary, from the PDP's and tape drives, to the ion implanters brings back memories.
    Please keep up the great work and have a wonderful year.

  • @VitorMartinsAugusto
    @VitorMartinsAugusto 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you for renewing this amazing documentary.
    It amazes me that the chip making is so much more complex than what I imagined - and I thought I knew "How it is made"!
    What is even more mind-blowing is that this is the process used 40 years ago! I cannot grasp how much complexity increased in manufacturing modern CPU's like the Intel Core i9 in regards to a fairly simple MOS 6510.
    This only shows how technology is in fact a global venture in science and engineering. To make a chip you need to understand chemistry, electronics, optics, management, engineering, metrology, etc.
    This video is an excellent example on how a "simple" product like the C64 requires so much global resources and input from so many fields of science.
    And, finally, this video shows that there are single individuals that are visionaires: they really push mankind and Jack Tramiel was indeed such a person. My greatest respect to him.

  • @stephanknull3579
    @stephanknull3579 2 роки тому +10

    This one was really entertaining. Great job to dig this out. Back in 1984 one of those bread bins was my christmas gift and changed my life forever.

    • @deadohiosky1701
      @deadohiosky1701 Рік тому

      Same. It was a year of suffering until my parents could afford a 1541 lol.

  • @The8BitGuy
    @The8BitGuy 2 роки тому +217

    Great work! I'm amazed you were able to find that much raw footage. It's unfortunate it couldn't be higher quality, thuogh.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  2 роки тому +20

      Thanks! I hope some day better quality will show up in somebody’s attic…

    • @cristianstoica4544
      @cristianstoica4544 2 роки тому +8

      @@RetroRecipes Thanks for video. It's what I've would have been absorbed into for hours when I was a child. I still do. Talking about the enhancement process, when I saw the wall clock at around 10:30 I could put words onto what the code does. It's 'open loop - non-directed - non-contextual'. It's obvious that the AI doesn't know what it's looking at.
      For example there was an earlier shot of a zoom of a board - The next after next generation of AI could probably deduce it's looking at the same picture and use the larger one as a reference to take details from.
      The enhancing of the MOS logo was to me a clearly directed one - there may have been more. Thanks again

    • @dieSpinnt
      @dieSpinnt 2 роки тому +1

      Your comment, Adrian, is releasing and at the same time disturbing.
      Perifractic has done his best thing, his journalistic deeds (a kiss for Puppyfractic though **the th german pronounced, sorry**)
      In no ones attic will be a "RED Digital Cinema | 8K & 5K Professional Cameras" (sorry commercial) from 1984 and back lying around. Doc Brown (Back to the Future) wasn't there;) And they couldn't (backward annotated) pay a storage card ... you cannot pay it today (even!):P
      Thank you for the "Kleinod", Retro Recipes Family. And ask yourself: What would've Jack Tramiel made with such video quality, back then? ;) :PPPP

    • @cottage_pie
      @cottage_pie 2 роки тому +5

      Its really good quality. Its from 1979 what do you expect? Jeez. Can never impress a nerd 🤓

    • @pixelcrunch300
      @pixelcrunch300 2 роки тому +2

      Maybe if we used AI upscaling, it could look maybe a bit better?

  • @misterevil906
    @misterevil906 2 роки тому +1

    The best machine i ever had. My first machine in age of 8. The best time i ever had. I wish to go back to the 80's, but today there are so much options to enjoy the great old times again and again. ;)

  • @fitfogey
    @fitfogey 2 роки тому +13

    Still have mine. That thing has taken a beating. From lugging it to computer group meetups in the mid 80s to multiple moves all around the country. Still works great!

    • @AlanCanon2222
      @AlanCanon2222 2 роки тому +1

      You don't even have to make sure you keep oil in it! Hope your 64 keeps buzzing along at a blistering 1 MHz for the next couple of centuries.

    • @Pau_Pau9
      @Pau_Pau9 2 роки тому +2

      I have bought and collected 5 units over the years from Ebay and craigslist.
      Plan to setup my commodore station very soon!

    • @AlanCanon2222
      @AlanCanon2222 2 роки тому +2

      @@Pau_Pau9 5 Commodore 64s == 40 bit computing!

  • @echohunter4199
    @echohunter4199 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing how far we’ve come since the 80’s. I remember using a C64 in high school, kids today can’t imagine using a cassette tape as a hard drive, lol. It took FOREVER to download files from that thing, lol. Thank you for taking time to make this video.

  • @tenhendee5479
    @tenhendee5479 2 роки тому +2

    And everywhere the older ladies working with pacience, experience and highest precision needed in this type of high tech procedures. Yess they made the moonlanding possible too. Respect.

  • @FlyboyHelosim
    @FlyboyHelosim 2 роки тому +8

    The C64 was before my time but this is a truly humbling insight into microchip production and the reminder that we have nature to thank for even the most advanced technology of yesterday, today, and tomorrow.

  • @BanCorporateOwnedHouses
    @BanCorporateOwnedHouses 2 роки тому +14

    Dude, this was SO cool, and took me back to the days of watching Discovery and History Channel when they actually bothered to show real educational content.
    If you can keep putting out a segment like this even monthly, I think you would have a winning formula.
    I am into computers, but had no idea how a mico chip was manufactured or designed. I just saw the chip as some magical component, but this unravels the magic into very easy to understand process.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  2 роки тому +1

      Sadly there just isn’t much footage like this. Let me know if you find any!

  • @mwales2112
    @mwales2112 2 роки тому +1

    I still have my C64, 1541 II disk drive and 1802 monitor that I purchased while stationed in Germany in the late 80's and still works great... Nice video...

  • @michaelcarey
    @michaelcarey 2 роки тому +8

    It's amazing to think how far the semiconductor has come from it's beginnings in the late 1940s. The jump from 1947 with a single transistor to 1982 microchips was incredible... the jump from 1982 to 2022 is mind boggling.

  • @christianmoller6141
    @christianmoller6141 2 роки тому +32

    Awesome video Chris!! This is the kind of stuff I’d like to see more of on your channel!! Great work!

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  2 роки тому +7

      If you know of similar source footage for other machines I’d love to do more! 👍🕹️

  • @pullingweeds
    @pullingweeds 2 роки тому +4

    Very well done. And as a Canadian I appreciate the love for one of our shows.
    It is kind of crazy that for such a geographically large country our population is smaller than that of California.

    • @saganandroid4175
      @saganandroid4175 2 роки тому

      I was s confused as to what CTV has to do with this

  • @Thiesi
    @Thiesi 2 роки тому +5

    9:39 - This looks like a city, like a little model of a city!

  • @00Skyfox
    @00Skyfox 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you so much, Chris. This video has totally made my day! I was 6 when the Commodore 64 made its world debut. As I sit here there's a C64 just to my left, recently repaired, and another sitting to my right, which was taking the other's place while it was feeling under the weather. And a 1541 sitting in a laundry basket, because I haven't put it away yet.

  • @nathancantwell602
    @nathancantwell602 2 роки тому +3

    Back then, I was in the Amstrad CPC464 camp. But I regularly defected to C64 when visiting my cousins. I now own a handful of C64s...and to look at them now, knowing the amazing journeys that each has taken over the decades to end up with me now...if only they could talk. To see how their origins began, is fantastic.

  • @MikeWood
    @MikeWood 2 роки тому +4

    Nice shout out to How It's Made at the beginning. :) I like the brief glimpse of the Pet towards the end. It was the first computer I used in school. Writing simple programs on a tape cassette. This was a top notch documentary. I could see it going in a computer museum display on the Commodore 64. :)

  • @harag9
    @harag9 2 роки тому +1

    Many thanks for all the work in restoring the old video. I still remember when I got my C=64 back in 82 when I was 12, I wish I still had it :(

  • @Dkentflyer
    @Dkentflyer 2 роки тому +5

    I had an Atari 800XL when Jack left Commodore for Atari, the guy was a visionary. "power without the price" was one of his slogans. I wasn't an owner of a C64 until some 37 years after the model was released and I really enjoyed this behind the scenes look at how they were made. Great video!

  • @TheOneTrueSpLiT
    @TheOneTrueSpLiT 2 роки тому +1

    After my fifth or sixth(!!!) ZX Spectrum died I was invited to collect a brand new ZX Spectrum+ from Sinclair Research HQ in Cambridge, I can recall how excited I was in believing that was where they were manufactured so hopefully my dad and I would get a tour and possibly meet the great Sir Cliver. Now imagine how disappointed I was when we got there and neither one were there!

  • @fixedbit
    @fixedbit 2 роки тому +4

    I genuinely love how you have taken the spirit of one of my favorite programs and turned it into a "was" made! The narration and restoration are above what I usually expect to find on UA-cam, BUT exactly what I expect from an episode on RR. Keep up the amazing work and thank you for using your gentle voice to guide us back through a time portal into the creation of a triumph in computing history!

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  2 роки тому +2

      Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️

    • @fixedbit
      @fixedbit 2 роки тому +1

      @@RetroRecipes Any time! I don’t post much on comments but your videos are kind of like If Joe Pera was a genius. Let’s see who gets that one 😄!

  • @MIZKhalid
    @MIZKhalid 2 роки тому +1

    Wow! Very emotional for me; especially the last 2 minutes. I started with the Vic20 and PET in 1985. And in 1986 My parents got me my C64. I am so blessed! I still have the C64 but it's not functional anymore. And I also had the 1541 floppy drive and an LX80 printer.
    It is so sad that the new generation of students have so much more resources but learn almost nothing!
    Thanks for putting this video together.

  • @universal5
    @universal5 2 роки тому +3

    There's no greater nostalgia from a movie or video than when watching one about the Commodore 64.

  • @AnalogX64
    @AnalogX64 2 роки тому +20

    I bet there are footage like this one, hidden in someone's attic, yet to be discovered. Great episode and a wondaful job with the narration.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  2 роки тому +6

      Thank you! I find videos like this can actually bring other things like it out of the woodwork. I can't wait to see what's in some attics!

  • @Medolino2009
    @Medolino2009 2 роки тому +6

    it actually amazes me how technology was advanced in that periode of time. Thank you for great video.

  • @steveolsen2164
    @steveolsen2164 2 роки тому +1

    I started out with a 64 and went to a 128 when they first came out. Still have it in a box in the garage along with 2-5.25 drives and the CRT monitor. All still working!

  • @aresaurelian
    @aresaurelian 2 роки тому +3

    Ah, what a lovely brilliant memory. It was a real treat to see the C64 take form. Thank you.

  • @andymoss
    @andymoss 2 роки тому +1

    Fantastic film! I had a VIC-20, C64, and an Amiga 500 Plus. Great memories.

  • @MyChannel-vm6dw
    @MyChannel-vm6dw 2 роки тому +25

    Holy crap without a doubt one of your best videos ever. Please do more of these history series. Well done!

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  2 роки тому +7

      Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️

  • @takearushfan
    @takearushfan Рік тому +1

    Man, I was born in '82 and my dad bought a C-64 when it was new. I can't tell you how many remarkably fond memories are associated with it. It will always have a place in my heart. I still sometimes play Impossible Mission on an emulator.

  • @mcd3379
    @mcd3379 2 роки тому +19

    Great video as always Perifractic. Interestingly, according to Brian Bagnall's excellent book "Commodore a company on the Edge", much of the original 6502 design was done by hand, not by CAD! I wonder what the workers on the production line back in 1982 would think if they knew the computers they were building were still being used 40 years later?

    • @vectorjoe
      @vectorjoe 2 роки тому +5

      Well some of them might still be alive, because some of them seemed in their 20ties. I guess they would maybe still live in or near braunschweig, so maybe one could put a message in a local newspaper to contact them for an interview.

    • @rubenproost2552
      @rubenproost2552 2 роки тому

      Yeah, I remember an image of people laying out rhe traces with kapton tape on a big table.

  • @amcnaughton100
    @amcnaughton100 Рік тому +1

    The memory's, thanks for bringing me back to my childhood. I think i remember my amazement when I received the terminator 2 game which was on a cartridge and it loaded straight away. My mind was blown after years of tapes.

  • @lmb4453
    @lmb4453 2 роки тому +6

    Truly impressive work! The extra work put into remastering the footage was definitely worth it.

    • @TUUK2006
      @TUUK2006 2 роки тому +1

      "Work"? They ran it through Topaz and had no idea what they were doing, hence the footage looking like crap.

  • @moseshorowitz4345
    @moseshorowitz4345 2 роки тому +1

    I am sitting down this week to cobble together a breadbin 64 out of parts, and this appears. Excellent timing!

  • @redlinechaser7942
    @redlinechaser7942 2 роки тому +6

    Amazing work! I am super happy having access to watch this multiple times! Long live the Commodore 64!

  • @mojamb0
    @mojamb0 2 роки тому +1

    Got one as a kid sometime around 1984 I think. I also had the Indus GT floppy drive to go along with it. Good times typing in programs from Compute's Gazette magazine. I still have them!

  • @kneel1
    @kneel1 2 роки тому +3

    In the mid-to-late90s I worked here!! in the clean rooms at the facility you showed in the beginning ("MOS" in Norristown PA) just a couple years after Commodore sold it - After Commodore, when i was there it was used by Motorola to manufacture silicone wafers for chips that went inside of those ID cards we all scanned to get into doors at our jobs in the 90s and early 00s (the white, thicker ones, if you saw one you'd recognize it. These days they are in every/any ID card but back then was a specific tech that Motorola had the patents for). Also Commodore stored solvents improperly and it became a US Superfund site to cleanup chemicals left behind that leaked from tanks underground

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  2 роки тому +1

      Amazing! I didn’t think I’d hear from workers there. The original video seemed a little confused as it referred to the big building with MOS logo on it (now QVC) as Norristown. But that wasn’t Norristown but Westchester down the road, is that right?

    • @kneel1
      @kneel1 2 роки тому +1

      @@RetroRecipes Oh I worked at the one in Audubon PA when it was called GMT technologies probably 1994-1995 which spawned from Commodore Semiconductor Group, MOS's successor. West Chester was the HQ (now QVC) but Audubon is where they manufactured

  • @KonstantinosNC
    @KonstantinosNC 2 роки тому

    This is my second computer I used at age 13, my first was the VIC 20, I will never forget the Commodore 64, this computer is the reason I am in IT field today, I still have prints of basic and machine code assembly language I programed, amazing computer, truly the best.

  • @andydurbin8309
    @andydurbin8309 2 роки тому +6

    This is such a great Documentary 😃
    A great smorgasbord of tech History and production. I really loved it. I knew some about the manufacturer of CPUs but I hadn't seen how a commodore 64 was built and tested.
    Thank you for sharing this with me, Perifractic.

  • @kaidzaack2520
    @kaidzaack2520 2 роки тому +1

    Great! I got my first 64 in 1984 - I was around 12yrs. then. My „Monitor“ was an old B/W TV and for games a „Datasette“, a tape recorder. Here in Germany we called it „Brotkasten“ (Bread box) because of its shape. Good Vid! 👍

  • @AntonioBonifacio
    @AntonioBonifacio 2 роки тому +15

    I think that the ML tech is just "not there yet" for this kind of restorations... But the overall documentary is ❤‍🔥

    • @IgnacioCarreraAR
      @IgnacioCarreraAR 2 роки тому +1

      definitely a step back

    • @squirlmy
      @squirlmy 2 роки тому +1

      the documentary is heartburn? lol I like the idea of a "watchable version", translated into English; it's so much better than the original. Quote: "I plan future versions as the tech improves". I think Retro Recipes is already quite aware of the problems.

  • @MaskHysteria
    @MaskHysteria 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks to those wonderful ladies for assembling my Commodore 64 so well it lasted over a decade and enabled me to build the foundation for a thirty-year IT career.

  • @christopherjackson2157
    @christopherjackson2157 2 роки тому +4

    I've read about how these chips were made but never actually seen footage of all the steps. Thanks!

  • @RadfahrerProductions
    @RadfahrerProductions 2 роки тому +1

    Hello Recipients. Very, very nice picture. Yes i outpacked out mine in the first half of the 1980s as i was a young teenager. Programmed it in Basic and Assembler. Tuned it with a parallel floppy booster. Sold it finally for a custom steering wheel for my first car. After that one followed a C500 Amiga. I still kept this one in the cellar. Addon memory board but unbroken guarantee seal. An Amiga 1200 completed the trio and as an successor never came is buyed a windows personal computer, heavy hearted. Good old times. Many of the persons in this film are already very old or died in between for shure. Greetings from Germany.

  • @jameslangridge5878
    @jameslangridge5878 2 роки тому +3

    Fascinating video Peri, you forget these days just how much work went into designing and building these machines.

  • @garyandrewranford
    @garyandrewranford 2 роки тому +2

    An amazing video and very well narrated... I was there in 1982 or 83, when I bought my C64. I think I paid about £300 back then, a lot of money for me and the various income sources I had as a teenager 😊

  • @Colin_Ames
    @Colin_Ames 2 роки тому +5

    What an excellent video. Thanks for putting in the huge amount of effort to bring this to us.

  • @bondgabebond4907
    @bondgabebond4907 2 роки тому +1

    That was a great time I enjoyed. There, on the shelves, were Atari's and Commodores and racks of software. Apples were for those with money. But the thrill of owing a computer was beyond anything we could imagine. And things got better when the internet started up and we could communicate anywhere in the world.
    Great show on how a chip is made. I wish there were more detailed videos as the process is incredible.

  • @0xTJ
    @0xTJ 2 роки тому +3

    I always loved How It's Made, so I'm very happy for it to come up here.

  • @johneygd
    @johneygd 2 роки тому +2

    Trough i still don’t have a C64 but i am tempted to wanna get one,and looking at those workers from the past, i really should respect and thank them because they were responsible for producing the 6502 chip,wich were also put inside the nes, wich i do own,BUT if i ever will own a C64 ,i should be double thankful and respect them,as those workers (including man and womans) did put their heart and soul into it to make sure those chips will last more then 40 years.

  • @BlueJayBonsai
    @BlueJayBonsai 2 роки тому +3

    As a Canadian who grew up by the CTV studios, I approve this video. 👍🇨🇦

  • @incogneato6725
    @incogneato6725 2 роки тому +1

    My first year in high school our math class spent one week in the school's computer lab using PET 2001 computers. I begged my parents to get me a VIC-20 for Christmas and they did. By the summer I had written a Wizard of Wor clone in BASIC that used up every bit of memory (mainly due to spaghetti code programming, but it worked). I wanted an upgrade, and my dad saw the value and future of this and went all in on C64 with monitor, printer and disk drive. I know this may sound like hyperbole, but it changed my life to find something I was really good at, and believe it or not it even helped me make a good impression on my future wife. I loved the feeling of living on the edge of the future you read about in science fiction too.

  • @matchboxcustomsandrestos
    @matchboxcustomsandrestos 2 роки тому +5

    Great job Chris! Another piece of Commodore history saved.

  • @TexRider
    @TexRider 2 роки тому +1

    very interesting. I live in north bay Ontario Canada and remember when NORAD changed the computers in the underground complex. they took it out in dump trucks and had to add heating equipment after the old tube computers were removed and replaced with new smaller ones

  • @JayBlackthorne
    @JayBlackthorne 2 роки тому +3

    As a longtime, hardcore C64 fan, that was fun to see. Thanks for this!

  • @bishopofrustyiron3101
    @bishopofrustyiron3101 2 роки тому +1

    Wow what a trip back in time, thank you for this! So nostalgic, I need to get out my AC/DC T-shirt and headband just to make the day complete! ty!

  • @emdotrod
    @emdotrod 2 роки тому +11

    Never really experienced the C64 era since I was born way after it was released. But I do love computer history and this is a great watch with great narration!

  • @petercrowl9467
    @petercrowl9467 2 роки тому +1

    Bought a 64 in 1982. 64..Gorilla Banana Amber Monitor and later a 1541 disk drive. Because of that my wife and I found our way to Computer Shows. This was in the San Jose area of California. Bought bulk diskettes. Found the source and began selling bulk diskettes. Ran that business with 4 or 5 employees using the 64 right up until about 1985 when we switched to PC's. The 64 is an amazing and very capable machine.

  • @vbachris
    @vbachris 2 роки тому +4

    one of my biggest takeaways from your awesome video is the strenuous automated testing that was built into the process.

  • @jazeenharal6013
    @jazeenharal6013 2 роки тому

    Things have only gotten 1,000x more complicated, tiny and precise. Truly, it's amazing. When you walk around with a modern smartphone, or use a modern computing device, it's practically miraculous.

  • @benjaminsmith3151
    @benjaminsmith3151 2 роки тому +5

    I grew up near Cray Research, and it always amused me that these electronic monsters were built by sweet old ladies.

    • @AlanCanon2222
      @AlanCanon2222 2 роки тому

      Sweet old ladies (and young ones, too) did a bang up job of advancing the computing art during the 20th century, all over the place. Not every hero wears a cape. In 20th century computer science (and before, and beyond), a massive number of them wore skirts.

  • @miroslavzima8856
    @miroslavzima8856 2 роки тому +2

    I´m glad I didn´t see this documentary before, now I could enjoy it even more! Amazing voiceover as always and in this case, maybe more than over, style of the music for your channel is SO MUCH SPOT ON!
    Brilliant review!

  • @thedad7313
    @thedad7313 2 роки тому +4

    Watching all the care, love and time they put into assemble, might explain why the one I had for Christmas was broke. It would either display a lovely picture and no sound, or have lovely sound but no picture. Devastated I was.

    • @SpeccyMan
      @SpeccyMan 2 роки тому

      No, it wasn't broke. It was BROKEN! Do try to use the English language correctly.

    • @thedad7313
      @thedad7313 2 роки тому

      @@SpeccyMan I stand corrected. Please forgive my grammatical faux pas.

  • @mzzzzz2179
    @mzzzzz2179 2 роки тому +1

    Wow, the chip making part was amazing! Back in 70s/80s, computers weren't around for that long, yet these engineers had advanced so fast into making silicon based chips at microscopic levels.

  • @rudodejong
    @rudodejong 2 роки тому +4

    9:39 You did a Björk! 😆

  • @SeanGarratt
    @SeanGarratt 2 роки тому

    Amazing machine back in 82. I got a C64 and the cassette tape drive and later the 1542 floppy read/write unit. I played games on it and actually eventually got a 6502 assembler for it but never made anything other than some routines callable from basic to do some high speed graphics - never completed a game. Eventually i sold it to a friend so i could get a 8086 8mhz DOS PC clone and VGA monitor. Wish I had kept it now. When i saw that blue box at the end i literally can remember unpacking it for the first time, the new electronics smell etc.

  • @thomaseller3866
    @thomaseller3866 2 роки тому +5

    Thank you for this beautifully made and informative video. It's also a great tribute for the Commodore founder Jack Tramiel, who after the 2nd WW lived in my hometown in germany for around 2 years, before he went to the U.S.
    It also makes me think, after reading his biography, why he opened the Commodore factory in Braunschweig, which is next to the place where he and his father were treated so badly in a Nazi labor camp.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  2 роки тому +1

      That’s a very interesting thought. And you’re welcome. Thanks 🙏

    • @mjp29
      @mjp29 2 роки тому +1

      Jack Tramiel was responsible for making computers affordable - for those of us that couldn't afford an Apple ][ !!!

  • @MartinFarrell1972
    @MartinFarrell1972 2 роки тому +1

    Nearly missed this video. I didn't realise until I saw Retro Recipes under the title. Great mini documentary about the C64

  • @Matty112uk
    @Matty112uk 2 роки тому +4

    Impressive work on the video upscale. I remember getting my C64 from under the Christmas tree, magical times!

  • @markbench8721
    @markbench8721 2 роки тому +1

    Worked at Ablex many times manufacturing the C64 cassettes.

  • @KeithApp
    @KeithApp 2 роки тому +3

    Lionel Richie was a Commodore.

  • @gazac48
    @gazac48 Рік тому +1

    I worked for Commodore Australia in the 80's, it was a grest job, getting paid to play with Computers, I got to see all Commodore computers come out, the biggest time was when saw he Amiga 1000 for the first time, I worked my way up to Amiga user groups support , I was also the president of the Australian Amiga User Association, I had to keep quite about new Amigas, I got to take home many Amigas, It was hard having a Amiga 3000 under a tea towel when a mate came over. great times

    • @jonfreeman9682
      @jonfreeman9682 Рік тому +1

      You have lived thru a legendary period in computing history experiencing it first hand. I've owned the Vic 20 and 64 and an Amiga. Truly legendary computers.

    • @aliceinvideo1and
      @aliceinvideo1and Рік тому

      So cool!

  • @acel2413
    @acel2413 2 роки тому +3

    not me downloading this because of the historical footage.

  • @rifftipton7709
    @rifftipton7709 2 роки тому +1

    Loved my Commodore 64 and Amigas. This was fascinating to watch.

  • @NoshAbroad
    @NoshAbroad 2 роки тому +4

    1:38 Really Perifractic? 🤣 Or maybe Lady Fractic is to blame? I have a keen eye, as I also think like a 13 year old. I didn't have a lot of exposure to the C64 but I still find videos such as this "how it's made" style documentary fascinating. I'm just not sure how I feel about the ML upscaling. One part I found fascinating was around the 7:10 mark and the ML seemed determined to turn some random buttons into a sequence of letters.

  • @Sb129
    @Sb129 2 роки тому +1

    Truly incredible how advanced they were for their time and the fact that people still needed to do some of the work manually.