The Leather Element: Using a Leather Stitch Groover
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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We've had several questions about the leather stitch groover, which is one of Chuck's go-to tools so, in this video, we'll show you some tips and tricks on this handy tool. This tool creates stitch lines as well as decorative cuts and edge lines.
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"..she got a problem with her groover. Let's cut through that!"--> I see what you did there Chuck 🤣👉👉❤ Love your energy and video as always!! Your energy is contagious!! You're a blessing!!!
Always informative and positive. Like a hug from granny.
It is a pleasure to watch a how-to video that is well thought out and organized. No rambling. I'm heading over to Weaver Leather to pick up some tools.
I really appreciate the tip on sharpening!
Thank you! I wondered how to sharpen it!
He said how to sharpen it at 6:12....
Hey chico go fuck yourself
Great video and great information. I'm new to using a stitch groover and was totally confused on how the blade went. Your video was a huge help. Small hole front, big hole back. Perfect. Thank you very much
Due to other drains on my finances at present I'm yet to begin leather-crafting - but I diligently follow the "Leather Element" and am absorbing some knowledge that I can call upon when I can afford to take up this craft. Thanks Chuck - you're an inspiration. :)
Thank you so much for watching, Fil!
This video had some great points! From the use to the sharpening all were right on the mark. All very important tips for the newbie. I wish I would of seen it when I first started out. It would have saved me a lot of time trying figure out what I was doing wrong with this tool. Thank’s Chuck.
i just love Chuck so freakin' much.
So glad I found these videos man is Chuck an awesome teacher.
Hey, Chuck now that video was "really groovy"!
Great. As a beginner this is a really good video.
Thanks Chuck for another sharp video.
ThankYou my friend!!!
This show is the one I needed. Thanks so much
I love your leather videos. I'm new and learning so much! Thank you!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
I was trying to figure out why it stopped working, it was just clogged. Thanks Chuck!
So glad the video was helpful!
My groover has the problem where leather is stuck in it. Been trying to figure out how to get it out and even decided to just order a new one. Thanks for the info on how to fix it. Great videos by the way very informative.
Well said and well presented! I was always a little unsure of when to use this tool. Thanks!
Great tips Thank you for sharing
K
Thanks for the sharpening tip.
Great advice on the 1/8" seam. I'd been doing that, but didn't know why.
Thank you so much.. Learned a lot from this video. You are simply the best !!
You are such a good teacher! Very helpful.
This is a great video. In the same theme I would like to see a similar video on U and V Gougers. How to use them and what they are best used for. Thanks!
Thank you!
That's a great idea for making the border! Thanks for the tip! A better and easier way to sharpen this tool would be to make a grove and rub in your compound then run the tool backwards up the grove, this would accomplish polishing the entire cutting edge all at once and keep the edge geometry.
Thanks for the awesome video Chuck. I need to start using a stitch groove, just had the stitching on one of my knife sheaths catch on something.
Thank you! You present so clearly!
Thank you so much for this and other videos! You have taught me a great many things; and inspired me to create again in a new medium!
Thank you so much, Joe - that means more than you know!
Thank you for your information. I am very new and I learning a lot.🙂🦇
Hey Chuck! Love your videos! I had an idea for a leather element. And it comes from personal experience when I was starting out. I frantically searched for an in depth video about punching nice stitching lines. There are tons that teach you how to mark a line and punch it but I needed one that taught me more about how the distance of your line and the number of tines dont always match up and what to do if that happens. I dont know how many times I would just start punching on one end, first tine last hole, till I got to a corner and there was too much line left to just add one more hole but also not enough to add two. Also navigating stitching lines on square corners was super tricky for me. Still is. Haha. But I just thought you could maybe make a bare bones chiseling video talking about some of the problems someone new to leatherwork can face that seasoned craftsmen like yourself might not even think about anymore. Thank you!
I tried to groove a slightly damp piece of leather the other day.... Never again. Thank you for the great video.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks so much for watching!
Have one but never used it much Chuck, guess I should start using it more :D Thanks for another awesome video Sir :D
Thank you for watching, Chris!
Thanks for all the straight info! I'll purchase my beginner tools from your site..Right on videos,,priceless!
Thanks so much, Richard!
Thanks!
Excellent thanks
Thanks for sharing your expertise. Excellent teaching!
Thank you 👍
I stopped going in 1/8" a while back, I now like 3.175mm as it looks much nicer.
Everything I need to know, appreciate it
Thanks Chuck, any lacing videos planned. Not suited for a reign fare 😉 but interesting. And my wife flipped over that same bag your wife tried to sneak off your bench lol. Expanded video on that would be interesting also. Thanks for all you do.
We do have a few videos where the items are laced together instead of sewn, we'll link them below and you can let us know if that is what you are looking for!
Pillow: ua-cam.com/video/0Ib_shQfOcI/v-deo.html
Bag: ua-cam.com/video/B_8Ls8PwYpk/v-deo.html
Re stropping, makes sense because the cutting edge is facing backwards in the groover, compared to facing forward like in an edge beveler...
Thanks this helped alot. I'm currently working on my first leather project [a belt] o.o so I'm learning as I go. My groover I got.. for sure must have been dull since I had to put alota pressure into it.. xD
That's great to hear - glad the video was helpful and we hope you're enjoying leathercrafting!
Groovy baby, very groovy.
Thank you, Sir.
Thanks for showing me how to use the groover .One thing my groover tool also came with a trimmer 3 edgers different sizes 1 groover and 1scribe how do I use the rest of them..Thanks for your video was ex..Thanks ahead of time for your lesson..Mario
Thanks for the videos.. I am wondering if you can do a video about tool storage and setup? I am struggling with keeping everything nicely organized for easy use. I would love some tips! (Unfortunately, I don't have a permanent space to set it up, so it needs to be mobile enough for those times it needs to be moved out of sight)
Very first time I used a grover it clogged lol. Now there are two different kinds. 1 the cutter is in the center like these. 2nd the cutter is on the arm that's what I have both work good.
Thank you
Thanks for the info it was very helpful.
Groovy video man!
Love your programs, but how about stitching through thick leather such 6-7MM on thick belts and holsters.
Thank you for all your valuable tips. I'm new to leather and I bought the wrong leather. I have thin soft leather. Can you show me what I can make with thin soft leather? Thank you
I also have problems with this tool and I wonder if Cynthia had the same issue which is NOT covered in this video. When I received my groover from Weaver it did not have a cutting head installed. It had a steel blank, and the cutting head was in a bag along with it. That's fine except 1) I didn't understand I had to swap it out and 2) There are no included instructions on the correct orientation to mount the cutter head. So I'm left guessing and figuring this out through trial and error. Really should be some information included or put into a vide!
I've been doing this a while now, but always looking for opinions on this. I've got creasing tools as well and prefer them. Do you have any reason why you would use a groover over a creaser for stitching valleys, or vice versa? I've always found that the creaser tends to work a bit better and is more forgiving, as in once a stitch groover removes material, you can't put it back. I can also add it while the leather is wet from being tooled.
Solid Video. Love your passion for your craft!
How about doing leather gloves with a fur liner
Hi Christopher,
Gloves are tough one and something I haven't done very much of - but we'll write it down and maybe some day we can dive into that one!
Weaver Leathercraft thank you
@@christophermcculley8318 Hi Chris. On Mountain Men, Tom Oar made a set of. beaver fur lined “mittens” (thumb and all four fingers). You might see if you can find that episode as there are some good shots of how he and Nancy did it.
Great info.
If I coils suggest subject for Leather element it would be how to handle thin types of leather. Most of the work i do is done in thin type of leather I find it difficult to bevel it, grooving would be challenging too since leather is quite flexy. Even cutting it might be difficult sometimes
Thank you for your suggestion!
that counter clock motion, is it only at the beginning of the groiving to get you started? or do you have to keep that tension through out? thanks
Do you have any tips on taking the groover around bends or corners please? I never seem to ba able to get these neat
wow this is good tips for leathercraft ^^
Thank you, glad the video was helpful!
Thanks for the tip on sharpening! Do you dampen the leather sometimes before running a groove line, or always dry?
We would recommend dry only, it can gum up a little bit if the leather is wet.
@@WeaverLeatherSupply Thank you!
Awesome!
I was wondering how you grooved in the middle of a piece. Thanks for addressing that. Have to buy one at least.
So glad that helped!
Hello ! Thanks for the vidéo. Did you say "0,8 inch" or "0,18 inch" ? Thanks..
Can you do video on stitching punches.. types, when to use certain types, etc..thanks
I noticed that you pulled the grover towards you. Not pushing it away, which ic the correct method?
How about us cowboys ? would love to see a western holster with lining made !!
Would you ever use a stitch groover to make a line before Machine Sewing a project?
I struggle when using the groover on a radius. Any advise on how to best achieve good results?
Hello Chuck, ty for your always great videos. you say in your video eighteen of an inch. Is this 0.18 inch? I´m working with cm so it must be then 0.45 cm, right? Ty for you answer :-)
Maybe an idea for next videos, write minimalKey facts in you description - for this video per example the used inch numbers and also in cm?
When do you use the groover, on dry leather or damp leather?
Hello, thanks for sharing. Where and how can I find the Jeweler Rouge? Any links? I am writing from Germany.
Спасибо Вам!
Do you groove before or after you dye your leather?
You the best....
Staple from a common stapler will unplug your groover too.
Have you done a project using water buffalo? If so, please let me know. I'm new to the leather world and still learning. I wanted to use it for small credit card wallets. Yes?
Hi Jady!
We've done a few videos with the chrome tanned water buffalo. We'll link them below so you can take a look at them. The videos we've done with the veg tanned water buffalo are some belt videos and the guitar strap video. Let us know if you have any other questions.
Purse: ua-cam.com/play/PLzvwlO3D_z7eZwCDUQHqXCP6SDXjy4SEn.html
Laptop Bag: ua-cam.com/video/tVWO4sCzk7o/v-deo.html
Guitar Strap: ua-cam.com/video/PEOngDgZips/v-deo.html
@@WeaverLeatherSupply Awsome! Thanks so much!!
What did you use to sharpen the blade?
1:41
Wont a creaser achieve the same improvement in terms of looks?
I tend to prefer a proper crease line than a grove that removes material
thanks, for the information, but I still don't know how to set the leather stitch groover, which I purchased from you with no instruction. Thanks
Hi there,
The groover comes with two tips, a flat tip that scribes the leather like a wing divider would and a blade tip that will actually remove a sliver of leather like in the video. You can swap out these tips using the allen wrench that comes with the tool. To adjust the guide arm, twist the knurled part of the tool that sits between the handle and the guide arm. This will loosen the guide arm and allow you to set your width. Once you've set the width, twist the knurled piece to tighten (see 4:24 in the video where Chuck loosens the knurled piece with pliers).
What if any is the difference between using a stitch groove and a crease? Does it change the way the thread is protected?
What type of leather to make saddle bags for a horse
If using a die that comes with stitch hole blades (instead of manually using pricking irons), can a stitch groover be run over those pre-made stitch holes or will that mess up the groover and/or leather?
If your blade is pretty sharp you might be ok but the groover will likely get stuck on each hole so the line could get a little wonky. We would maybe test it on a scrap piece and see how it does.
how do you do a grove around the curved edge and of the strap,, thanks
Do you have to case the leather before you use the groove stitcher? Or would that make a huge mess?
We would recommend the leather be dry when using the groover.
Need a weaver catalog on the tools
Eddie Porter I called last week just on internet . No catalog. Springfield leather and Tandy has one
i love you ty!
Hi Chuck, big fan of all your videos! Quick question - what process do you recommend for adding a stitch line on a leather that is too soft to use a groover on without pushing the leather?
Hi there,
I would recommend a wing divider or if your groover came with a flat marking tip, you can use that as well. Most groovers come with a blade and then they also have a small flat tip that you can use to just mark the leather vs. actually cutting it.
Wing Divider: www.weaverleathersupply.com/catalog/item-detail/65-2327/wing-divider-8/pr_53754
Stitch Groover with flat tip: www.weaverleathersupply.com/catalog/item-detail/8069/stitch-groover/pr_10672
@@WeaverLeatherSupply thanks for the recommendation! Much appreciated.
So what's the difference between the groover and a pair of calipers? Does the groover set the line deeper?
Hi Steve,
Yes, the groover actually removes some of the leather, so, the stitching sinks in a little bit deeper. Both will do the job for marking your stitch line, it's mostly personal preference on which tool you use.
someone gave me a set of tools since I really wanted to get started. My groover tool has the hole (cutter) on the arm, instead of on the center part of the tool. Does that indicate something about the quality of the tool? I have never gotten it to cut a spiral 'chip' the way you do, and I'm not really sure that I could put an edge on it again.
It shouldn't have anything to do with quality - we have seen both types of groovers but you may need to sharpen the blade. We'll link a video here that Chuck shows some ways to buff the blade. ua-cam.com/video/phAeANzrP2w/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared
Thank you! Been having issues figuring this out. Wet or dry leather when doing this?
Hi Justin,
You'll want dry leather for using the stitch groover. Hope that helps!
@@WeaverLeatherSupply I figured so, so I went back and tried it again and I had the blade backwards! Thanks for the response.
How can I add multiple colors to a belt
I can't seem to use the grover
How to do it on softer leather?
Hi there again my favorite youtube video buddy, hey I have a question about a groover I got in a kit, well the groover I have has the metal guide & that has sharp tip on it, but the area where blades should go, mine is totally solid, have you ever seen any like this, if so, what are these actually used for, I mean there's no place to set any blades. I got it from Amazon in a kit named (Electop), thanks.
Hi Melody,
It's just made opposite of the one in the video, so you would use the guide arm to cut your groove and the middle section will be your guide. I've had a few of those throughout the years and it should work just fine.
@@WeaverLeatherSupply Oh thanks for the tip, but I decided to purchase one like you use, i'm sure that i'll like it a lot more, thanks buddy.
Great video. .thank you! What was the name of the solution you used for sharpening ( something.. rouge :D ). Thanks!
Hi there!
It's called jewelers rouge, or honing compound
How can I add more than color to a belt