I do think Drake has a better singing voice, though. Which is what allows him to make decent r&b music. When it comes to rap, I don't think it's close at all. Kendrick is far above. This battle showed just how unique Kendrick truly is. Each of the songs that he released from the writing, production, and performance were all different.
The thing is Drake can't act high and mighty about the PDf file thing because HE BROUGHT IT UP FIRST. People forget that Drake says in Taylor made freestyle that Kendrick should talk about him liking young girls. He tried to do the 8 mile and it didn't work.
Drake was also the first to make accusations without providing proof, regarding Kenny beating his wife. Lamar warned him "this is a friendly fade, you should keep it that way" before calling him a PDF.
It’s like this fool Prophesied his own demise by talking about that in “Taylor Made” This Weirdo brings up Millie Bobbi Brown in the Song with Yachty and then again On The Heart Part 6
Idk...only reason I feel zero sympathy for Drake is Kendrick practically begged bro for two songs keep it above belt...then Drake went on to; A) say his son isn't his B) say his fiancee is a DV victim by Kendrick C) make fun of and demean said "DV victim" by calling her a "bitch" and telling her "shake her ass" Idk bruh...to most people there's no coming back from that lol. It's gloves off now. The bridge isn't just burned, it's been nuked atp
Drake fans are just bitter because they expected their guy to do what Kendrick did. They're also mad this song will never go away because it's so generally applicable.
The idea that people would stop listening to Drake if he were labeled as a “pdf” is ironic. R. Kelly had a tape with a 16-year-old, yet he was celebrated for years, making hits like ignition remix,Same Girl with Usher, Trapped in the Closet, and the Make It Rain remix. It wasn’t until recently that his legacy crumbled. Meanwhile, Drake has been seen kissing a 17-year-old on stage and texting a 13-year-old about boys. In a rap battle, being called a “pdf” is justified . The “Certified Lover Boy” flip to “Certified Pdf” was a clever and sharp play on his album title.
It’s not a blatant lie as much as it’s an exaggeration!! Drake does weird stuff and Dot bent it to the extreme. The reason that it sticks is because it’s plausible based on actions but also not likely!!
The fact that we're still discussing it, every content creator, sports analysts, cats, dogs, babies, frogs... it's the song of the year. People don't have to like it, but many, MANY stranger things have happened. Those still trippin, need to get in the booth or take a long nap while we continue dining on the beef... P.s., Kendrick is indeed the king of quotables
Drake called Kendrick a wife beater. Did anyone call for his receipts? In no Vaseline ice cube insinuated that Eazy was literally getting bent over. It’s battle rap. Period.
I Believe he’s a PDF File, as a community we always give these these artists and actor a pass until they get caught. “The Writing is on the wall “ look at R.Kelly and Diddy. There’s a community of people in the Bible that are FAN. “Beat your a$$ and Hide the Bible if GOD watching”
Drake 23 years being weird with a 17 year old on stage. 17 is either a junior or senior in high school. Guy on the right must not see how people can tie that to Drake being a PDF
@@kerringtoncreation There was a comedian saying this was going to happen 7 years ago. He said Drake liked young girls. A female comedian said Drake was on that Epstein time. This is nothing new, but it took Kendrick to keep saying it during a time millions were listening to get people’s attention. Here we are people still questioning it. The list of people still saying they believe R Kelly. Some people taking up for Diddy. What is wrong with our society? Children are not safe. I also believe Drake has an 11 year old. He was likely having s@x with every female willing and likely unprotected. It was at the beginning of his career. I think Kendrick wouldn’t completely expose her because of the nut jobs on the internet and she’s a kid. Probably got more kids than her that he doesn’t claim. Men do it everyday.
So you give Jay the benefit of the doubt because you think HE believed what he said, but call Kendrick a liar when he's addressing an issue that has been existing for years, one that the media and general public alike have discussed and criticized at length... Just because you refuse to believe or even consider that Drake might be such a person. I am pretty sure there is a reason many people, some who don't even care about hiphop, sided with Kendrick from the start: Whether it's his lyrics, his lifestyle, his entourage or the varying testimonies we get from artists who collaborated or interacted with him, everything points out to him being a twisted individual.
➡Drake fans please continue to keep this topic alive. 🥰It’s been 7mos. With the Super Bowl, Grammys, Kendricks collab w/South Park upcoming & the anniversaries of Like That & NLU following, the L will live on another yr. And KL called Baka PDF, not Drake. But hit dogs will holler The lip tooter and what he thought was a preemptive strike brought up allegations about minors in Taylor Made. Oops. And he was warned.
Anyone has every right to believe that song is overrated. They are entitled to their opinion. Their opinion though does not alter the reality of that song’s existence and how much of a behemoth it has become. I hope he wins at LEAST 1 grammy for NLU AND I pray he performs the song during the halftime show. If he does perform NLU during the SB, I believe he should not perform the song for a good while.
What needs to be talked about is the ending I think maybe besides Step in the name of love we haven’t even had a dance directional crowd participation track in so long Kendrick took the song back to the essence of hip hop when the MC controlled the crowd
@@tourecultureso WHY do you so called “hip hop media heads” pretend like it’s a one sided thing? You all continuously scream “Kendrick lied” but somehow never feel the need to mention Drake’s? Nor the way he disrespected Kendrick’s fiance FIRST and his child then his fiance again before Kendrick even went there with him AFTER warning Drake TWICE? This is why so called hip hop media keeps losing credibility and respect! Tell the whole truth or leave it alone, this constant coddling of Drake is ridiculous. PLUS the stories about Drake’s creepy behavior with underage girls have been around for years and documented, so did Kendrick really lie? He also isn’t the first one to say this, talk to Joe Budden and even Drake himself who introduced it in this particular battle.
@@toureculture yet you chose NOT to hold him accountable in any way, but kept going on and on about how Kendrick lied and how damaging his lies were…why is that pray tell? I am waiting for one of you to even mention that Drake called Kendrick a domestic abuser, spoke on his toddler son’s paternity, insulted his fiance is by calling her amoral since he claimed she slept with her bodyguard and had a child with his best friend from childhood. But somehow those disgusting lies get skipped over and boo hoo Kendrick called poor Drakey wakey a pdf file, and that is a lie according to you and all the other hip hop talking heads who have shown their ability to spin a narrative during and post this beef. Let’s ignore Drake’s sus ways with MANY teenage girls e.g. Hailey Bieber, Kylie Jenner, Millie Bobbie Brown, the girl on the stage, the parties with teenagers at his house, Jorja… I could go on! But Drake is a victim…I can’t!!
King Green’s perspective makes sense to me - dot is using hyperbole. I don’t know what Drake is up to but I am looking at him differently since. They not like us!
You’re being way too charitable to drake and I’m trying to understand why. Drake himself was literally the first one to bring it up in the AI song because he knew that’s the word around. There are so many weird cases that it’s not that much of leap for Kendrick to say that. There are like 3 girls that’s he knew when they were 16, Justin biebers girl that Bella Harris I think her name is and another I can’t think of off the top of my head, then dated them as soon as they turned 18. I think the visceral reaction we have is because when someone says PDF file, you think of little kids which I don’t think anyone thinks drake is into, but it puts him into a weird spot because what is he going to do argue semantics lmao there’s no more sure fire way for people to be positive you’re one
Toure needs to ask Drake for HIS receipts on Kendrick’s son’s paternity since he claims his son is actually Dave Free’s. While he is at it, he should also ask for the evidence that Whitney had an affair with her bodyguard and Kendrick beating her up. Let’s keep it cute across the board or not at all. I actually used to REALLY respect Toure but this was sad to watch. The other guy was at least fair and balanced, Toure had his freshly laundered OVO cape on! No! And then they wonder why people no longer respect or see any credibility in so called “hip hop media”. In what world is being labeled a wife bearer and your toddler son’s paternity questioned or your wife being disrespected by saying she has so little morals she slept with your best friend and her bodyguard then passed a son that wasn’t yours onto you? But this creep with questionable behavior with minor girls has been treated so badly not egregious AF? I can’t!!
There's video proof out there of Drake. Which is why the allegations seem plausible. Stop acting like you haven't seen any of them. Nor are you speaking about Drake's DMV claim towards Kendrick...Stop it!😢
isnt literally every song's success based on the circumstances around it. i mean if the drake stimulus package is real then all other songs are popular cause of all the elements that contributed to their existence. so in closing i would ask if its about Drake why dont we have a drake song in the beef that does the numbers and has the popularity since clearly people think NOT LIKE US is only good cause of drake
It's important to recognize that music artists like Kendrick Lamar engage with a variety of collaborators for reasons beyond personal opinions or judgments. Working with Kodak Black, Dre or Future doesn't necessarily equate to endorsing their actions or beliefs. It could be a strategic decision based on artistic vision, industry connections, or even social commentary. It's crucial to separate an artist's musical collaborations from their personal values or public statements, as these are complex individuals who navigate a multitude of relationships and projects. Kendrick Lamar's choice to work with the aforementioned should not be automatically deemed hypocritical without deeper understanding and context.
@@rahbeeuh come on now he let dre to open not like us in the pop out, and this song could apply on dre.. if he just keep it music maybe I'll understand you
Kendrick can do any and everything Drake can do, but Drake can’t do any and everything Kendrick can do. Period.
I do think Drake has a better singing voice, though. Which is what allows him to make decent r&b music. When it comes to rap, I don't think it's close at all. Kendrick is far above. This battle showed just how unique Kendrick truly is. Each of the songs that he released from the writing, production, and performance were all different.
@@killaab9he is not R & B he had no soul. Let pop have him
I'm a Kendra fan but that's definitely 100% what you said
I'm a Kendra fan but that's definitely 100% what you said
Kendrick created an extraordinary moment that week from the time euphoria dropped .
The thing is Drake can't act high and mighty about the PDf file thing because HE BROUGHT IT UP FIRST. People forget that Drake says in Taylor made freestyle that Kendrick should talk about him liking young girls. He tried to do the 8 mile and it didn't work.
Drake was also the first to make accusations without providing proof, regarding Kenny beating his wife. Lamar warned him "this is a friendly fade, you should keep it that way" before calling him a PDF.
Bingo on both points!!! How these people mad and Drake himself brought the young girls stuff first! Make it make sense!!!
It’s like this fool Prophesied his own demise by talking about that in “Taylor Made” This Weirdo brings up Millie Bobbi Brown in the Song with Yachty and then again On The Heart Part 6
Idk...only reason I feel zero sympathy for Drake is Kendrick practically begged bro for two songs keep it above belt...then Drake went on to;
A) say his son isn't his
B) say his fiancee is a DV victim by Kendrick
C) make fun of and demean said "DV victim" by calling her a "bitch" and telling her "shake her ass"
Idk bruh...to most people there's no coming back from that lol. It's gloves off now. The bridge isn't just burned, it's been nuked atp
Drake fans are just bitter because they expected their guy to do what Kendrick did. They're also mad this song will never go away because it's so generally applicable.
The idea that people would stop listening to Drake if he were labeled as a “pdf” is ironic. R. Kelly had a tape with a 16-year-old, yet he was celebrated for years, making hits like ignition remix,Same Girl with Usher, Trapped in the Closet, and the Make It Rain remix. It wasn’t until recently that his legacy crumbled. Meanwhile, Drake has been seen kissing a 17-year-old on stage and texting a 13-year-old about boys. In a rap battle, being called a “pdf” is justified . The “Certified Lover Boy” flip to “Certified Pdf” was a clever and sharp play on his album title.
It’s not a blatant lie as much as it’s an exaggeration!! Drake does weird stuff and Dot bent it to the extreme. The reason that it sticks is because it’s plausible based on actions but also not likely!!
The fact that we're still discussing it, every content creator, sports analysts, cats, dogs, babies, frogs... it's the song of the year. People don't have to like it, but many, MANY stranger things have happened. Those still trippin, need to get in the booth or take a long nap while we continue dining on the beef... P.s., Kendrick is indeed the king of quotables
Drake called Kendrick a wife beater. Did anyone call for his receipts? In no Vaseline ice cube insinuated that Eazy was literally getting bent over. It’s battle rap. Period.
I Believe he’s a PDF File, as a community we always give these these artists and actor a pass until they get caught. “The Writing is on the wall “ look at R.Kelly and Diddy. There’s a community of people in the Bible that are FAN. “Beat your a$$ and Hide the Bible if GOD watching”
💯💯💯💯
Drake fans making it worse for Drake. Low key if they would stop talking about it the effects would diminish.
Drake 23 years being weird with a 17 year old on stage. 17 is either a junior or senior in high school. Guy on the right must not see how people can tie that to Drake being a PDF
@@kerringtoncreation There was a comedian saying this was going to happen 7 years ago. He said Drake liked young girls. A female comedian said Drake was on that Epstein time. This is nothing new, but it took Kendrick to keep saying it during a time millions were listening to get people’s attention. Here we are people still questioning it. The list of people still saying they believe R Kelly. Some people taking up for Diddy. What is wrong with our society? Children are not safe.
I also believe Drake has an 11 year old. He was likely having s@x with every female willing and likely unprotected. It was at the beginning of his career. I think Kendrick wouldn’t completely expose her because of the nut jobs on the internet and she’s a kid. Probably got more kids than her that he doesn’t claim. Men do it everyday.
Uh. I think Drake is a pdf file. Certified.
Drake fans act like him they need to grow up
Drake and Drake fans… CRY HARDER 😂🎉🎉
So you give Jay the benefit of the doubt because you think HE believed what he said, but call Kendrick a liar when he's addressing an issue that has been existing for years, one that the media and general public alike have discussed and criticized at length... Just because you refuse to believe or even consider that Drake might be such a person. I am pretty sure there is a reason many people, some who don't even care about hiphop, sided with Kendrick from the start: Whether it's his lyrics, his lifestyle, his entourage or the varying testimonies we get from artists who collaborated or interacted with him, everything points out to him being a twisted individual.
Do you really think Drake is a pdf? I don't think most people really think he is.
➡Drake fans please continue to keep this topic alive. 🥰It’s been 7mos. With the Super Bowl, Grammys, Kendricks collab w/South Park upcoming & the anniversaries of Like That & NLU following, the L will live on another yr. And KL called Baka PDF, not Drake. But hit dogs will holler The lip tooter and what he thought was a preemptive strike brought up allegations about minors in Taylor Made. Oops. And he was warned.
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Exactly about the Baka comment. That is what I keep thinking. He was specific in the line.
You made a mistake by assuming that Drake fans "think".
Anyone has every right to believe that song is overrated. They are entitled to their opinion. Their opinion though does not alter the reality of that song’s existence and how much of a behemoth it has become. I hope he wins at LEAST 1 grammy for NLU AND I pray he performs the song during the halftime show. If he does perform NLU during the SB, I believe he should not perform the song for a good while.
What needs to be talked about is the ending I think maybe besides Step in the name of love we haven’t even had a dance directional crowd participation track in so long Kendrick took the song back to the essence of hip hop when the MC controlled the crowd
Harping on the NLU “lies”.. What about all the family matters lies?
For sure Drake lied throughout the battle.
@@tourecultureso WHY do you so called “hip hop media heads” pretend like it’s a one sided thing? You all continuously scream “Kendrick lied” but somehow never feel the need to mention Drake’s? Nor the way he disrespected Kendrick’s fiance FIRST and his child then his fiance again before Kendrick even went there with him AFTER warning Drake TWICE? This is why so called hip hop media keeps losing credibility and respect! Tell the whole truth or leave it alone, this constant coddling of Drake is ridiculous. PLUS the stories about Drake’s creepy behavior with underage girls have been around for years and documented, so did Kendrick really lie? He also isn’t the first one to say this, talk to Joe Budden and even Drake himself who introduced it in this particular battle.
@@toureculture yet you chose NOT to hold him accountable in any way, but kept going on and on about how Kendrick lied and how damaging his lies were…why is that pray tell? I am waiting for one of you to even mention that Drake called Kendrick a domestic abuser, spoke on his toddler son’s paternity, insulted his fiance is by calling her amoral since he claimed she slept with her bodyguard and had a child with his best friend from childhood. But somehow those disgusting lies get skipped over and boo hoo Kendrick called poor Drakey wakey a pdf file, and that is a lie according to you and all the other hip hop talking heads who have shown their ability to spin a narrative during and post this beef. Let’s ignore Drake’s sus ways with MANY teenage girls e.g. Hailey Bieber, Kylie Jenner, Millie Bobbie Brown, the girl on the stage, the parties with teenagers at his house, Jorja… I could go on! But Drake is a victim…I can’t!!
King Green’s perspective makes sense to me - dot is using hyperbole. I don’t know what Drake is up to but I am looking at him differently since. They not like us!
Kendrick Lamar is the goat 🐐🐐🐐. Kendrick Lamar won. Drake lost. Ee love California.
You’re being way too charitable to drake and I’m trying to understand why. Drake himself was literally the first one to bring it up in the AI song because he knew that’s the word around. There are so many weird cases that it’s not that much of leap for Kendrick to say that.
There are like 3 girls that’s he knew when they were 16, Justin biebers girl that Bella Harris I think her name is and another I can’t think of off the top of my head, then dated them as soon as they turned 18.
I think the visceral reaction we have is because when someone says PDF file, you think of little kids which I don’t think anyone thinks drake is into, but it puts him into a weird spot because what is he going to do argue semantics lmao there’s no more sure fire way for people to be positive you’re one
Mona Lisa. How he portrays those characters is incredible!
Drake watching this video like 🥺
Toure needs to ask Drake for HIS receipts on Kendrick’s son’s paternity since he claims his son is actually Dave Free’s. While he is at it, he should also ask for the evidence that Whitney had an affair with her bodyguard and Kendrick beating her up. Let’s keep it cute across the board or not at all. I actually used to REALLY respect Toure but this was sad to watch. The other guy was at least fair and balanced, Toure had his freshly laundered OVO cape on! No! And then they wonder why people no longer respect or see any credibility in so called “hip hop media”. In what world is being labeled a wife bearer and your toddler son’s paternity questioned or your wife being disrespected by saying she has so little morals she slept with your best friend and her bodyguard then passed a son that wasn’t yours onto you? But this creep with questionable behavior with minor girls has been treated so badly not egregious AF? I can’t!!
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Yes... so overrated that they're still crying about it... right.
There's video proof out there of Drake. Which is why the allegations seem plausible. Stop acting like you haven't seen any of them. Nor are you speaking about Drake's DMV claim towards Kendrick...Stop it!😢
26:19 and the fact that drake was talking about it in tupac voice 😭 it's hilarious to me like why you bring that up?
Jay Z lost worst then 51 to 49 percent Toure, Google is your friend
isnt literally every song's success based on the circumstances around it. i mean if the drake stimulus package is real then all other songs are popular cause of all the elements that contributed to their existence. so in closing i would ask if its about Drake why dont we have a drake song in the beef that does the numbers and has the popularity since clearly people think NOT LIKE US is only good cause of drake
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When it's have the name in it you can't separate from the battle 😂
The one thing I see off from Kendrick that he take the high morality angle
When he affiliated with Dre, kodak and future like that confusing 😅
It's important to recognize that music artists like Kendrick Lamar engage with a variety of collaborators for reasons beyond personal opinions or judgments. Working with Kodak Black, Dre or Future doesn't necessarily equate to endorsing their actions or beliefs. It could be a strategic decision based on artistic vision, industry connections, or even social commentary. It's crucial to separate an artist's musical collaborations from their personal values or public statements, as these are complex individuals who navigate a multitude of relationships and projects. Kendrick Lamar's choice to work with the aforementioned should not be automatically deemed hypocritical without deeper understanding and context.
@@rahbeeuh come on now he let dre to open not like us in the pop out, and this song could apply on dre.. if he just keep it music maybe I'll understand you
19:25 and now after the beef Kendrick have this kind of fans 🥲