@user-misspoken - Umm - artisans are craftspeople who create useful things that everyone needs and uses - artists are people who create art - which enriches one's life, but is not actually necessary to sustain it. Artists were often revered, while artisans were apparently taken for granted. (also, "wealth" does not necessarily equate "high class")
In Roman time there was no distinction between artist and artisan. One slave painted landscapes and portraits, one slave made cups and pots, one slave sculpted, one slave baked bread. Of course also free men were doing these but they were just workers in the eyes of rich people.
Very pleasant narration tone and intonation, more relaxed timing and rhythm. You're improved a lot your style, it's nice to see your continuous improvements. I knew you had a lot of potential years ago keep on getting better.
Again a great presentation. What was a typical day like for a slave. Also what happened to them if they tried to escape and were caught? I suppose details like that are not revealed and maybe will be found in the scrolls of Herculaneum. I saw the like diary entry of a former slave stating how he received part of his owner's house and the owner moved away by what seems years of earthquakes that happened there. I wonder if the volcano presently there will first give years of warning too with earthquakes etc.
The earthquake in 62 was a warning.. But people soon forgot. The city was a busy place with lots of restoration and rebuilding... Little did they know!
The last eruption of the volcano was in 1944 during WW2. There have been 10 other eruptions from 1850 to 1944, with apparently little damage. The big damage to Pompeii in WW2 was from bombing by the Allies, British and Americans. About 150 bombs fell on Pompeii. The Allies were trying to bomb a nearby railroad but many of the bombs missed their target. About 20,000 Italian civilians were killed in the Naples area by Allied bombing during WW2.
Pompeii was certainly a better fate than going into the mines, but still. I remember one of the houses had a slave room, a whole family squeezed in a few windowless square meters and probably required to spend any idle time there. Or the infamous brothel of Pompeii, also staffed by slaves. From today's perspective, it's hard to comprehend that you don't find anyone in antiquity thinking there's something wrong here.
Yes, slavery was an acceptable fact through ancient Rome's history. Some were better than others. As you note- a household slave vs. a slave in the quarries... Romans also offered many a chance to become freed; the freedmen class flourished under the empire.
I wonder the opposite: How did most of us come to think of slavery as something immoral and unjust? The major religions I'm familiar with thought it was OK until it wasn't anymore, but I don't think their doctrines changed because of pressure from within. Was it non-religious philosophers who raised the issue in the advanced societies of the West like, say, Britain and France? And however the idea began, how did it spread, how fast, why? I'm thinking that the brutal U.S. Civil War was fought less than 2 centuries ago because half the country felt that the practice was not only normal but optimal. 😕
@@Cor6196 I think reason was better productivity caused by technology and science. Stone age and bronze age were so brutal human sacrifices were norm. Then iron tools made life easier and human sacrifices were not in fashion. Slavery was abolished when industrial revolution started. Modern medicine, fertilizers, combustion engines, electricity, etc. have made UN declaration of human rights possible.
@@rickrandom6734You and I are mostly right. After I wrote my comment, I checked Wikipedia's article on Abolitionism. It turns out that Abolitionism has a rare, spotty history before the French Revolution, when the new leaders drew on the writings of the French 18th-century philosophers to outlaw slavery in France, but not in the colonies, where it was still a money-making practice. Ditto Britain, which, again, drew on the Enlightenment philosophers, to outlaw slavery in the home countries but not in the colonies. This is at the same time when the Industrial Revolution begins to make slavery more costly than paying factory workers, and as the new economic model spreads, slavery starts to die out. One interesting factoid is that slavery continued in the Arabian Peninsula until the 1960's, when it was finally made illegal, but there are still millions of people held in slave-like conditions there, in Africa, and Southeast Asia, where it's firmly embedded in the culture and/or still makes economic sense.
The level of hygiene or lack thereof was appalling. In the back kitchen of one of the villas they had found a walled off square skip that was used not only as a garbage bin for kitchen scraps, bones, shells and shards of pottery, but regularly the staff of the kitchen used it as a crapper!!! So "combined use" waste receptacle ... And they apparently saw nothing wrong with shitting right where the food is being prepared... A waste was a waste for them! Horrid!
Sheffield had many Romans and Romanized Britons it was a huge farmers hub :) west of Humber hill there used to be one of the first Roman forts with a harbor for the trade ships
It's sad that the exhibit is only temporary through December 2024. I would love to see it in person but can't go in 2024. I think that Pompeii Scavi needs its own major on-site or adjacent archaeological museum to better showcase and conserve artifacts and help visitors better understand ancient Pompeii in a coherent fashion. It’s amazing what has been dug up and how new discoveries can reshape the contemporary understanding of Pompeii, but it can seem so overwhelming.
Some scholars suggest that the great building of Eumachia in the Pompeian Forum was actually a slave market! (at the time of the eruption, this building was under renovation, as was the entire forum)
Wow. That looks so interesting. I think when it comes to covering ancient life the common people are often overlooked. Although this may be true for most of history. So this is a temporary exhibition only for this year?
@@kevin02mulder Sorry, just to clarify, are you talking about Roman norms or Greek norms there or both? Cause I'm specifically interested in the Greek/Hellenistic side of things.
Short tunics were commonly worn by many people, depending on the social context... But as you can see from this context, the merchants are wearing what are identified as longer tunics (and not togas), distinguished from the enslaved people in tunics carrying the crate.
4:53 These group of men in long Toga look so much like ancient Egyptians! Wonder if there was any DNA connection between the Romans and the ancient Egyptians?
Slavery actually deferred the industrial age until a later date.We see this in the deep south in America when the cotton harvester was not mass produced until after WW2.
WOW... Pompeii was preserved for a reason... I believe it was God's will because he wanted us to see comparisons to modern life. Pompeii is a magical place and is also probably cursed
There have not been many exhibits of this nature. It's an opportunity to share more archaeological content from Pompeii -filling in a needed void. We agree with the creation of this exhibit and applaud the efforts of @pompeiisites to bring more attention to these areas typically neglected in scholarship.
Heartbreaking and fascinating at the same time.
It's almost inconcievable that Roman artisans were "lower class." Today, artisanal products often sell at a premium.
Ummm ever heard of starving artest 😅
@user-misspoken - Umm - artisans are craftspeople who create useful things that everyone needs and uses - artists are people who create art - which enriches one's life, but is not actually necessary to sustain it.
Artists were often revered, while artisans were apparently taken for granted.
(also, "wealth" does not necessarily equate "high class")
In Roman time there was no distinction between artist and artisan. One slave painted landscapes and portraits, one slave made cups and pots, one slave sculpted, one slave baked bread. Of course also free men were doing these but they were just workers in the eyes of rich people.
Fascinating stuff. Thank you for showcasing ordinary Romans' and slaves' situation more clearly.
Thanks for continuing to watch and comment!
I stand corrected
You packed a lot of wow into a short video!
Thanks- and the exhibit still has a LOT more content - worth seeing.
Very pleasant narration tone and intonation, more relaxed timing and rhythm. You're improved a lot your style, it's nice to see your continuous improvements. I knew you had a lot of potential years ago keep on getting better.
Thank you very much!
Thanks for the great video
I am always in Rome in October and visit the parts of the city that Darius is telling about. He is a fantastic guide👍👍👍
Couldn't agree more!
Very fascinating! Thanks for sharing 🤗🤗🤗
Hate the word~ Class(es)! Horrible times....each individual should be equal! 🖤🥵
Again a great presentation. What was a typical day like for a slave. Also what happened to them if they tried to escape and were caught? I suppose details like that are not revealed and maybe will be found in the scrolls of Herculaneum. I saw the like diary entry of a former slave stating how he received part of his owner's house and the owner moved away by what seems years of earthquakes that happened there. I wonder if the volcano presently there will first give years of warning too with earthquakes etc.
The exhibit covers a lot more than we shared. Get the catalog or make a visit for more details!
The earthquake in 62 was a warning.. But people soon forgot. The city was a busy place with lots of restoration and rebuilding... Little did they know!
The last eruption of the volcano was in 1944 during WW2. There have been 10 other eruptions from 1850 to 1944, with apparently little damage.
The big damage to Pompeii in WW2 was from bombing by the Allies, British and Americans. About 150 bombs fell on Pompeii. The Allies were trying to bomb a nearby railroad but many of the bombs missed their target.
About 20,000 Italian civilians were killed in the Naples area by Allied bombing during WW2.
Amazing..this is so cool.
Pompeii was certainly a better fate than going into the mines, but still. I remember one of the houses had a slave room, a whole family squeezed in a few windowless square meters and probably required to spend any idle time there. Or the infamous brothel of Pompeii, also staffed by slaves. From today's perspective, it's hard to comprehend that you don't find anyone in antiquity thinking there's something wrong here.
Yes, slavery was an acceptable fact through ancient Rome's history. Some were better than others. As you note- a household slave vs. a slave in the quarries... Romans also offered many a chance to become freed; the freedmen class flourished under the empire.
Freed slaves saw slavery as normal thing in life. They had slaves too if they could afford.
I wonder the opposite: How did most of us come to think of slavery as something immoral and unjust? The major religions I'm familiar with thought it was OK until it wasn't anymore, but I don't think their doctrines changed because of pressure from within. Was it non-religious philosophers who raised the issue in the advanced societies of the West like, say, Britain and France?
And however the idea began, how did it spread, how fast, why?
I'm thinking that the brutal U.S. Civil War was fought less than 2 centuries ago because half the country felt that the practice was not only normal but optimal. 😕
@@Cor6196 I think reason was better productivity caused by technology and science. Stone age and bronze age were so brutal human sacrifices were norm. Then iron tools made life easier and human sacrifices were not in fashion. Slavery was abolished when industrial revolution started. Modern medicine, fertilizers, combustion engines, electricity, etc. have made UN declaration of human rights possible.
@@rickrandom6734You and I are mostly right. After I wrote my comment, I checked Wikipedia's article on Abolitionism. It turns out that Abolitionism has a rare, spotty history before the French Revolution, when the new leaders drew on the writings of the French 18th-century philosophers to outlaw slavery in France, but not in the colonies, where it was still a money-making practice. Ditto Britain, which, again, drew on the Enlightenment philosophers, to outlaw slavery in the home countries but not in the colonies.
This is at the same time when the Industrial Revolution begins to make slavery more costly than paying factory workers, and as the new economic model spreads, slavery starts to die out.
One interesting factoid is that slavery continued in the Arabian Peninsula until the 1960's, when it was finally made illegal, but there are still millions of people held in slave-like conditions there, in Africa, and Southeast Asia, where it's firmly embedded in the culture and/or still makes economic sense.
Kids had a high mortality rate before they got antibiotics. The 18 hundreds a lot of kids died. It's not just from the ancient world.
The level of hygiene or lack thereof was appalling. In the back kitchen of one of the villas they had found a walled off square skip that was used not only as a garbage bin for kitchen scraps, bones, shells and shards of pottery, but regularly the staff of the kitchen used it as a crapper!!! So "combined use" waste receptacle ... And they apparently saw nothing wrong with shitting right where the food is being prepared... A waste was a waste for them! Horrid!
Thank you for this. It looks fascinating! Are there any known graffiti referencing runaway slaves, offering a reward, etc.?
Yes, and more!
What a fantastic museum, thank you for sharing this.
Glad you enjoyed it
i enjoy your videos . im from sheffield in the uk, but ancient rome was beautiful and relaxing . more comforts and better lives for people ❤️🇬🇧
Sheffield had many Romans and Romanized Britons it was a huge farmers hub :) west of Humber hill there used to be one of the first Roman forts with a harbor for the trade ships
It's sad that the exhibit is only temporary through December 2024. I would love to see it in person but can't go in 2024. I think that Pompeii Scavi needs its own major on-site or adjacent archaeological museum to better showcase and conserve artifacts and help visitors better understand ancient Pompeii in a coherent fashion. It’s amazing what has been dug up and how new discoveries can reshape the contemporary understanding of Pompeii, but it can seem so overwhelming.
Excellent preservation. ❤
Absolutely
Looking at this overview of the city of Pompeii, you then realize how large it was.
Absolutely!
Really good. Thanks
Thank you too!
Some scholars suggest that the great building of Eumachia in the Pompeian Forum was actually a slave market! (at the time of the eruption, this building was under renovation, as was the entire forum)
Great.
Wow. That looks so interesting. I think when it comes to covering ancient life the common people are often overlooked. Although this may be true for most of history. So this is a temporary exhibition only for this year?
Yes til the end of December 2024
Interesting!
Glad you think so!
_"...From pliant virgins to learned Greeks... Rufus has slaves... for EVERY budget!"_
I just love Pompeii, if I had enough money I would go every summer
Was slaves wearing shorter tunics a Roman thing or was that also common in Greek and Hellenistic culture?
@@kevin02mulder Sorry, just to clarify, are you talking about Roman norms or Greek norms there or both? Cause I'm specifically interested in the Greek/Hellenistic side of things.
@@kevin02mulder Cool, thank you :)!
Short tunics were commonly worn by many people, depending on the social context... But as you can see from this context, the merchants are wearing what are identified as longer tunics (and not togas), distinguished from the enslaved people in tunics carrying the crate.
@@kevin02mulder😊
4:53 These group of men in long Toga look so much like ancient Egyptians!
Wonder if there was any DNA connection between the Romans and the ancient Egyptians?
If I were the head of RAI, I'd give you a show in prima serata every week.
Grazie! Puoi sempre vedere Under Italy! Su Raiplay!
@@AncientRomeLive woah, I had no idea you had a series on Rai Play. That's great! I'll be watching it over the next days. Grazie mille!
What nationalities were the slaves?
Various- What mattered to the Romans was that they were from outside the empire or not free Roman citizens.
Slavery actually deferred the industrial age until a later date.We see this in the deep south in America when the cotton harvester was not mass produced until after WW2.
Ancient Rome could not run without slaves.
It was a way of life in Roman society. It was the reality of their neighbors as well.
@@kevin02mulder I completely understand that,
Slaves were awarded freedom, and were not badly treated, as seen on documentaries on uk tv..
Please point your camera towards where you are walking and not at your face, nostril shots are not good!!!
Yes!
WOW... Pompeii was preserved for a reason... I believe it was God's will because he wanted us to see comparisons to modern life. Pompeii is a magical place and is also probably cursed
People marginalize themselves, They are not marginalized by others
This whole obsession with slaves and plebs needs to stop.
There have not been many exhibits of this nature. It's an opportunity to share more archaeological content from Pompeii -filling in a needed void. We agree with the creation of this exhibit and applaud the efforts of @pompeiisites to bring more attention to these areas typically neglected in scholarship.
Amazing treasures from the past....and so much of good quality. Blows me away.
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