Technique differences between the Hardanger Fiddle and the violin

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  • Опубліковано 3 гру 2024

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  • @curvingfyre6810
    @curvingfyre6810 2 роки тому +20

    As a traditional fiddler
    That scratching sound (affectionately known as the "crunch") is desirable in certain techniques

  • @cliffsandifer3877
    @cliffsandifer3877 9 місяців тому +3

    damn now i want a hardanger....I am fiddler since before you tube existed, aside from its decor which delightful IF you are a pearlahcolic" ( i just made that up) i like the droning strings. what a voice it has I play dobro because friend dropped his dobro into my lap one day and said "don't think guitar, think banjo"....the rest is eccentricity, i ve never touched a hardanger fiddle,,,,,thank you Rachel, now i want one ( dear St. Nicholas....)

  • @mattlawson714
    @mattlawson714 2 роки тому +25

    I would really like to hear someone use this fiddle to play the Rohan theme from LotR. For many people this is the only time they’ve heard this beautiful instrument and all the covers online are with a violin.

    • @Philstec
      @Philstec Рік тому +1

      Orchestra with someone playing the hardanger fiddle: ua-cam.com/video/NldBUqL1AY0/v-deo.html

    • @toastermon2272
      @toastermon2272 Рік тому +2

      We went to see LoTR with music by an orchestra and most of the Rohan motifs were played by the hardanger fiddle ... I had goosebumps the whole time.

    • @nesvigr
      @nesvigr  10 місяців тому +2

      I'm about to post a video of my version of the Rohan theme! Check it out!

    • @mattlawson714
      @mattlawson714 10 місяців тому

      @@nesvigr Muster the Rohirrim!

  • @21Ruthin
    @21Ruthin 4 роки тому +12

    Thank you, Rachel! So much that is so very useful - in such a short space of time. Wonderful!

  • @tigereyemusic
    @tigereyemusic 2 роки тому +9

    That’s interesting about the bow-hold and looseness of the bow. I was originally taught to play by a Shetland fiddler, and got lessons in classical (and more mainland Scottish fiddle techniques) later on. I spent a lot of time of bowing techniques with each different style/teacher. However, I have always preferred a much looser bow than most other classical violinists and trad Scottish fiddlers I’ve ever come across, and my pinky never touches the bow unless I’m in full classical mode (which I haven’t been for a good few years at this point, since I prefer fiddle and get more opportunities to play it). I somewhat wonder if my default bowing style it’s a holdover Shetland influence from my first teacher, which in turn has fairly strong Scandinavian influence.

    • @nesvigr
      @nesvigr  Рік тому +4

      How interesting! Yeah, it all comes down to personal preference for bow hold and looseness, but that's neat that you have a similar approach that I do!

  • @mariofilippi3539
    @mariofilippi3539 4 роки тому +3

    Rachel, you are such an inspiration. Never heard of this type of fiddle until I saw your videos and love the sound and your playing. Thanks so much.

  • @lisenau2928
    @lisenau2928 Рік тому +1

    I didn't recognize you when we were recently in class together at HFAA. But want to say that this video was especially helpful in orienting me on the hardingfele when I started in January 2022 and didn't even have an instrument yet. Thanks for making it, I think it saved me a lot of grief!
    Lise

    • @nesvigr
      @nesvigr  Рік тому +1

      I'm so glad it was helpful! And that is funny that we were in the same class but didn't realize it! Next time we can properly introduce each other. :)

  • @katherinepoindexter4380
    @katherinepoindexter4380 4 роки тому +17

    I love it..it looks like the boyfriend that my violin would bring home to shock me.

    • @Seastar14TheWitch
      @Seastar14TheWitch 2 роки тому +3

      Your violin brought home a boyfriend? 😄

    • @cliffsandifer3877
      @cliffsandifer3877 7 місяців тому

      My girlfriend brought me over a luggage and a road atlas because of my fiddling habit

  • @billmwooten1003
    @billmwooten1003 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks Rachel. Great teaching approach

  • @DutchViolins
    @DutchViolins Рік тому +2

    Rachel, I only hear you play for a couple of seconds. Demonstrate the differences by playing!

  • @EmelieWaldken
    @EmelieWaldken 4 роки тому +3

    So good video. A friend of mine who also plays the hardingfele explained that specific light bow technique and how it makes the resonance strings ring more... and I was reeeaaaally surprised, as I play nyckelharpa, another resonance strings instrument, and for getting these to sound to their maximum, the technique is... the exact opposite ^^ We "grab" the melody strings quite strongly (but extremely briefly) with each bowing and then immediately release. This starts the resonance from the understrings and then the release is important to not "crush" them again. It's a tricky technique but it really makes the nyckelharpa sound waayyyyy more and better, and with time I've quite adopted/adapted it on fiddle aswell... So yeah, imagine my surprise when I tried playing a hardingfele and it's all about NOT grabbing hard at all, ever ^^

    • @nesvigr
      @nesvigr  4 роки тому

      Hi Emelie! Good to hear from you! Yes, in general, the bow speed is so important, but there are little "nudges" used at the beginning of bow strokes sometimes, just like in baroque playing. Almost like bell tones, if that makes sense. But yes, in general, the hardingfele doesn't need much weight at all!

    • @nickkerns3868
      @nickkerns3868 2 роки тому

      Always beautiful instruments to see, I'd be curious to know the fiddle maker

  • @Ladomyr1
    @Ladomyr1 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @djolley61
    @djolley61 4 роки тому +1

    That's a great sound.

  • @kebman
    @kebman 2 роки тому +1

    Fanitullen is kinda nice with some crunch tho ;)

    • @nesvigr
      @nesvigr  2 роки тому

      Oh totally! These are no hard and fast rules, for sure! In general though, standard violin calls for more grit and bow weight, etc.

  • @ΥπερδιαγαλαξιακόςΑστροπολεμιστ

    Hardanger fiddle is originated in Rohan and classic violin from old India lol

  • @fuzzyhair321
    @fuzzyhair321 Рік тому +1

    when i was a child watching the two towers, i wanted to know the instrument that played the rohan farefare and i wished when i learned the violin was instead learn this instead

    • @nesvigr
      @nesvigr  Рік тому

      You can still learn the hardanger fiddle, especially if you already play the violin!

  • @spockb1186
    @spockb1186 4 роки тому +2

    Wow That Violin looks DAZZLING!

    • @nesvigr
      @nesvigr  4 роки тому

      The Hardanger Fiddle is a beautiful fiddle for sure!

    • @kebman
      @kebman 2 роки тому

      As the name suggests it's a traditional fiddle from Hardanger in Norway. It's considered the national instrument of Norway, since it's used in a lot of Norwegian folk music.

  • @artslife3876
    @artslife3876 Рік тому +1

    How do you spell the name of the lighter bow? I can't seem to find them. Thank you 🙂

    • @nesvigr
      @nesvigr  Рік тому +1

      Hmm, it's just a cheapo baroque bow that I got off of Shar!

    • @artslife3876
      @artslife3876 Рік тому

      @@nesvigr thank you!

  • @shupesmerga4694
    @shupesmerga4694 10 місяців тому +1

    1:24 🤣

  • @varga.vinter
    @varga.vinter 4 роки тому +3

    Do you use a classical bow hold? And could you give any advice on the hold? Is there a traditional way? I'm learning playing violin myself and couldn't find any information about traditional ways of holding the bow. For now I'm holding it in my own way, but after some time it becomes uncomfortable.

    • @nesvigr
      @nesvigr  4 роки тому +1

      Hi Varga, yes, in general I'm using a classical bow hold. I have another UA-cam channel about teaching violin, so you could check out our bow hold video here: ua-cam.com/video/jAh99ic71_g/v-deo.html
      Otherwise, I'm happy to give you a zoom lesson to get you off to a good start! I'm a classical violin teacher, as well as Hardanger Fiddle. Feel free to email me at nesvigr@gmail.com if you are interested. :)

  • @adamcartermi5
    @adamcartermi5 4 роки тому +11

    Can you play some lord of the rings music which featured this instrument, i believe for the scenes involving Rohan. Your subscriber numbers would increase ten fold.

    • @nesvigr
      @nesvigr  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks for the idea! I would have to look into copyright laws...

    • @adamcartermi5
      @adamcartermi5 3 роки тому +1

      @@nesvigr
      I believe if you play with your own instrument it falls under fair use.
      Lots of people play same music with violins, piano, trumpet, you name it.

  • @hast3033
    @hast3033 Рік тому

    Could you play a Bach partita piece on this instrument? I cant find any online :(

    • @nesvigr
      @nesvigr  11 місяців тому

      Check out Lodestar Trio's album called Bach to Folk! Great place to get started!

  • @blocknex
    @blocknex 3 роки тому

    does anybody know if this fiddle has frets or not? she doesn’t address this. I see what may be frets.

    • @nesvigr
      @nesvigr  2 роки тому

      They look like frets, but they are not, actually!

  • @badradish2116
    @badradish2116 Рік тому

    thanks im writing a character who plays a fiddle and i need some info on the differences here X'D

    • @nesvigr
      @nesvigr  Рік тому

      Feel free to email me with any other questions! nesvigr@gmail.com. There are many differences between the Hardanger Fiddle and the violin and also some differences between the violin and fiddle, although it's mostly the style and approach to the music and not the instrument itself. (The Hardanger Fiddle is actually a different instrument than the violin).

  • @ziply123
    @ziply123 3 роки тому

    VERY interesting and useful, but the constant video cutting is (IMO) needlessly distracting and doesn't add to the presentation.

  • @JustFiddler
    @JustFiddler 4 роки тому

    ah i see..... thankyou..... greeting from bali island